Title: DeProgram Show with Ted Ra
Show: DeProgram Show with Ted Rall and Jamarl Thomas
Date: 2025-08-15
URL: https://youtu.be/YiPnxJE7vtk
Duration: 72:00

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[00:00] It's time for deprogram. It's Friday, August 15, 2025. I'm political cartoonist Ted R. CIA whistleblower John Kuryaku is over there on the other side of the screen. And yeah, in response to the question, will I always be introducing John that way? Uh yes, until he tells me to stop. So, uh thanks everyone for joining us. Uh we are here. We ha we will officially be here Monday through Friday every week night five or week afternoon I don't know what you

[00:30] would call it 5:00 PM Eastern time uh starting Monday. So thanks everyone for liking following uh supporting the show in every way possible. You guys have been awesome. Uh we're we're here on Rumble as well as uh on X Live and we're also on YouTube. We're going to be on Pickaxe soon. Um so that'll be cool. That's a new uh cool place to uh to go check out as well. Um just a reminder, if you're not already doing so, please consider supporting us by going over to

[01:00] Rumble uh and watching us there just because financially u it's been a bit of a strain for the better part of a year ever since uh Biden's sanctions closed down our last job and uh we're pretty broke and we make a lot more money if you watch the same exact show with the same exact experience over on Rumble. Um, I'm monitoring the Rumble FE feed today. Producer Robbie's out. So, any deficiencies in answering the Rumble questions are totally my fault. I take full responsibility. John's here in New

[01:31] York. Um, and John, tell us what you're up to before. >> I am here at the Hackers on Planet Earth or Hackers of Planet Earth um conference. It's at St. John's University today, tomorrow, and Sunday in Queens. And I have to tell you, I'm impressed with the size and scope of this thing. This first hackers conference I've ever been to. They have three different venues going on constantly. And I mean from from 10:00 a.m. to 1000 p.m. Um, and some of these

[02:05] some of these rooms hold, you know, 500 600 people. So, there is a lot going on. I'm going to speak actually, you know what? I didn't know what I was going to speak on until about two hours ago and I read it in the program. It says uh my >> my speech is called >> talk about winging it. >> I know, right? Both sides of the wire surveillance, whistleblowing, and building a cyber peace movement. And uh

[02:35] yeah, that's what they're calling it. And on the uh on the other the other thing, too. Uh, what I'm going to talk about a lot though is um the Vault 7 revelations and how the CIA and NSA and DARPA and the FBI and whoever else wants to, ATF, DEA uh can spy on Americans in ways that we can't even fathom and then what we can do to combat that. So, I'm here with um a company called Ivy Cyber and Oh, that's funny. Stevie got an ad about

[03:08] bras in the middle of me talking on Rumble. You know what? Listen, lunch today. >> And neither of us has boobs. >> No. And we don't have moves. Thank god. Lunch today was two bags of Cheetos in the speakers lounge. So, >> if that ad makes us $5, I'm happy to use it for a McDonald's fillet of fish sandwich. >> You're probably being The Cheetos sound like the meals that are being served to the Russian journalists who are attending uh the Anchorage Summit. Uh they're being put off, but I mean apparently in very kind of squalid

[03:38] conditions. Not >> Trump changed that. >> Oh, did he? Apparently the Russians made such a st What Ted's talking about is all the American um um members of the media got, you know, rooms at the Hilton and uh all the Russians got CS in the uh Alaska Airlines hanger. And so >> that's wrong >> with little with sheets. >> It looks like a early COVID ward in

[04:09] there. That's exactly That's exactly what it looks like. And so they raised a stink. Thank you, Marble. Thank you. They raised a stink saying that this was a a an affront against them because they're Russians. That it was done on purpose. Trump found out about it as soon as he landed and ordered that they be put in I don't know some fivestar hotel someplace. I >> does Anchorage have a fivestar hotel? I don't even know. >> I'm only aware of the Hilton. I've been to Anchorage once and that's not a fivear days. It's not five stars. No, >> no.

[04:39] >> Although nothing wrong with staying at a Hilton at all. I've stayed in many and I hope to stay in many in the future. Although they got they're getting rid of room service, which I think is foul. Uh Marble 455, thank you so much for the 10 bucks regarding spying. Is the FSB spying in Alaska now, John? >> Uh yeah, in fact, just by sheer coincidence, that one time that I went to uh to Alaska, I was there with Gary Johnson when he was running for president in 2016. Um, I was able to watch from the balcony of my room at the Hilton,

[05:11] um, American fighter jets, I believe they were F-18s, escorting a Russian spy plane away from from the city that had that had flown too close. >> Yeah, agree with Jace. Anchorage is surprisingly lovely. It really is. And there's enough to do there for several days. It I thought it was fun. And I had a good time. And I went when the weather was terrible, >> late October. But I'll tell you, everywhere you turn your head, all you

[05:42] see is dozens and dozens of bald eagles. They're everywhere. >> Oh, that's cool. >> Everywhere you turn your head, it's just bald eagles. >> When I lived in the Hamptons, there were a lot of of bald eagles. >> That's cool. We have a lot of them in in the DC area now. >> Um Yeah. >> Being harassed by crows. >> When you and I were kids, they were all dead because of DDT, right? Their eggs had all fallen apart. So, thank God that's a something the EPA did. Uh, bald eagles would be probably extinct now if >> All right, let's get into it. Lots of questions in the feed, but we should

[06:13] just go right into the obviously into the big news of the day, which is Trump and Putin are meeting even as we speak right now in Alaska uh in Anchorage and uh everyone's all eyes are there. There was the handshake immediately uh between the two men. It's destined to be an iconic photo already. John, right before I went on the air, you you got you heard something. >> Yeah. So, I'm on this um I'm on this

[06:43] this list serve that used to be of RT employees and so they're constantly constantly exchanging information. And a couple of them are there in Alaska with um with Putin. And uh what they're saying is that coming out of meeting Sergey Lavrov, the Russian foreign minister said that at least some sanctions will be lifted at the end of the meetings. Not all sanctions. He didn't say which ones. He said some sanctions will be

[07:14] lifted. And in the meantime, Trump said he believes that there will be a ceasefire by the end of the meetings. >> And the end of the meeting is it's just a one-day meeting, right? >> This is it. It's one day. >> Do you think everything's already been negotiated in advance and they're basically there to dot the eyes and cross the tees? >> I do. I do. And the reason I say yes is because this was supposed to be a Putin Trump summit. Uh Putin announced I don't know 12 hours ago that he was coming not

[07:45] just with Lavrov but with a a contingency of their most important diplomats and at the last second uh Witoff and Rubio joined Trump on Air Force One and Hegth flew up separately. >> So all of a sudden this became a very big deal. >> Yeah. Rubio was a sort of a lastminute addition, right? >> Yes. Um and so I mean my impression was I mean look obviously we can only read tea leaves but that's what that's what we're paid very poorly to do here. Um I

[08:18] the idea is you know I mean it looks like initially the details didn't really basically first there was the decision to make to have the summit details had not been worked out and basically the feeling was these two guys are just going to get together in a room feel that it take each other's temperature and maybe there's they're going to get together a second time but between that decision and today obviously there's been furious communications between Washington and Moscow and now uh you know so things are accelerating.

[08:48] Obviously, there's tremendous desire on the part of these two men to normalize relations. At least that seem I mean, they say Ukraine's the main point. I kind of think it's not. I think normalization is the main point. >> I agree with you, Ted. I I think at least in the mind of Donald Trump, he sees Ukraine as a minor irritant here. >> That there is a bigger picture, at least as far as the United States is concerned, and he wants there to be movement. Alba is pointing out that um that CIA director Ratcliffe uh is also

[09:20] there. That would make sense in in this contemporary setting because just the last two CIA directors have been engaged in foreign policy. So that's an important point. >> Marble says if they make a deal, they get to eat at Lober. That's a reference to uh the Dayton Peace Accord that we talked about uh you know that resolved the uh the the Kosovo the conflict. But that >> Ted, did you happen to see >> it's closed is gone. >> Oh, I didn't know that. Yeah.

[09:52] >> Did you see the New York Post report that Hillary Clinton said she would nominate Trump for the Nobel Peace Prize if there's a ceasefire? >> Yeah, but there was a big caveat, right? She she says as long as Ukraine doesn't have to give up any territory. >> Oh, okay. Well, then >> that's um let's just say the ranks for the the odds of that are about the odds of her becoming president. >> Yeah. >> Um so yes, so look, so okay, so uh there's uh Stevie 3011 says, I don't believe there will be a lasting ceasefire. A lot of people feel that

[10:23] way. >> I think I have to agree. >> So this is about normalization first and foremost. >> And uh so then there's the question of what does happen? I mean, you know, obviously we we want this war in Ukraine to come to an end. Um, as soon as possible, what happens there? I mean, does, you know, is there's just are the French and the Brits and the Germans just going to throw too many wrenches into the works on behalf of Zilinsky to to stop that from happening? >> Maybe. Um, I I would have to think that

[10:56] there's got to be something big in this for Zilinsky. If he's going to be expected to to give up territory in perpetuity, he's going to have to get something really great in return. Now, Putin made that that kind of random comment last week that um that all he wanted was the territory. He didn't say anything about Ukrainian NATO membership. So maybe maybe the conversation is about NATO membership. >> Uh Lulu is asking, "Is it impossible to

[11:29] lift sanctions?" Because I don't think so. Um the sanctions weren't imposed by Congress, were they? >> No. No. They were imposed by the Treasury Department, >> right? So that's just an executive order. >> Yeah. >> That's a phone call. >> That's it. >> Make them go away. It could literally blink of an eye like >> Yeah. Just tw and bewitched. Just uh just wiggle your nose a little bit and they're gone. Yeah, agreed. >> Um, so well, this is just a theoretical question obviously, but MW Knox says, "Do you do you think Putin would give up

[11:59] what he's taken in exchange for the US leaving NATO?" Maybe, >> you know, and you have to think about how many times, three different times the Russians asked to join NATO in the 1990s. >> Yeah. >> Three times. And three times we said we didn't think that was a very good idea. And you know, in retrospect, >> but it's not an anti-Russian club. It's just a club where all the weapons point at Russia, right? And Russia's not invited to join. Exactly. But it's not an anti-Russian club. >> And Marble's got a good question here,

[12:29] Ted. What what agency facilitates such a conference? Normally an embassy. Without a doubt. And and let me tell you, there is so much work involved with a presidential visit. They don't care who you are or how important you are or think you are in an in an embassy. You drop everything you're doing and you work on the presidential visit. >> Something has been done at a military base, right? So, this is like exactly like Dayton, which was at Wright Patterson Air Force Base. >> That's right. All DoD and And they're

[13:00] not really used to putting on big events like this. The saving graces that >> But they can provide security. >> Yes, >> that's the main point here, right? >> Um John, I have a I have a question for you. It just occurred to me. So technically speaking, uh Putin is subject to an an ICJ warrant the second that he steps off that plane in Anchorage. Uh the United States is supposed to arrest him and uh and turn him over. >> Not necessarily because we are not signitories to the ICJ.

[13:30] >> But we're sort of if it was someone else, we probably would, right? >> Snatch him. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. Without a doubt. So, how you know, do we have to send a letter to the ICJ or do we just sort of go la, we can't hear you? >> Oh, you know what? Maybe we misread Tom's uh question. Um, it it's the uh the Ukrainian aid programs, those are congressionally mandated. Yes. >> Oh, okay. >> So, that would that would take congressional action. And again, Congress is not in session. So,

[14:00] >> but for but for sanctions against Russia, that's >> that's Treasury Department. Yeah. Um and I guess you know well the sanctions that closed like Sputnik and RT that's was that Treasury also? >> Yes. >> Okay. >> Yeah it sure was. It was I I can tell you with more specificity too. It was all about the banks. So when Treasury first announced sanctions um they were very very poorly written full of loopholes. And so what RT did to

[14:32] pay us was instead of transferring money from a Russian bank directly into our checking accounts, they opened a bank account in Istanbul and they transferred the money to this Turkish bank and then the Turkish bank gave us our paychecks. And that lasted from the invasion, which was what, February of 22, >> to October of 24. and then they tightened them up and we all lost our jobs. >> Uh, by the way, over on Rumble, uh, the

[15:04] we want to thank the Grace Meister is now a monthly supporter. We really, really appreciate you. Thank you so much for for doing that. Uh, question over from the Rumble feed. Um, I'm putting it up there from him or her. Uh, I know John keeps up with multiple Boomer news sources. I guess we know this person's age. Do you keep up with more modern news outlets like Breaking Points with Crystal Ball and Sager and Jet? >> I do. I do. I like Crystal Ball. Um I like the work that she was doing over at

[15:35] the Hill, too. And uh and they forced her out over there, but I think she's she's quite good. >> Yeah, I do. >> And she and she has a very lucky name. Um >> she has the perfect media name. >> Yeah. No, it's true. I mean, I would love to talk to her parents like, "Hey, good thinking there." You know, the uh uh you know, it's like I have several friends who I've met over the years. Their last name is Smith and their and their their shitty parents, their rotten parents named them John. You know, I mean, if you name Smith kid named I went to school with a kid

[16:06] named Pete Moss. The poor kid. >> I went to school with a girl named Kathy Gro and her this was during the 70s. She had one of those monogram sweaters that said KGB. You've you've heard the old story about the the Spinster sisters in Texas. U their last name was Hog. H O G G and their parents named them Ima and Ura. >> Were they Were they fud? >> No, they were apparently nice, you know, ladies, but they were saddled with

[16:38] these. >> Thank you, Sodom. 2324 for your very generous donation. uh asking both of us, should Iran receive a standing ovation at the general assembly for their political leadership during the bombing campaign and what do you think is their next move? You know, that's a great question. Um, a lot of people, a lot of leaders around the world are very concerned that there will be yet another um another Israeli attack on

[17:10] on uh Iran before the end of the month. >> Yeah. And uh I think that Benjamin Netanyahu is afraid of being lost in the in the shuffle. He wants all eyes to be on him and is willing to actually kill people. Uh thank you. ICC, not ICJ, is actually willing to kill people to remain in the in the global focus. So

[17:40] I'm I'm actually uh Jen I I actually worry about that. >> Michael Michael's asking world speaking tour happening New Zealand, Canada. >> Well to quote um my uh to quote the the attorney of someone with whom I used to be very close. I am a latigious prick. And so and they said that actually in court. So, I sold out nine consecutive

[18:11] >> I can imagine who that was. >> I sold out nine consecutive events in Northern Ireland, Ireland, Scotland, and Northern England. And um and then like magic overnight with 57,000 clicks on the buy tickets now button, I sold seven tickets. Seven tickets. And so to make a long story short, we were able to learn that Meta's algorithm just

[18:44] no longer likes John Kuryaku. And so they screwed me. So I hired an so of an attorney who right now represents not just the governor and the attorney general of Texas, but 20 of the P. Diddy accusers. He took it on what's the what's the word? Contingency. >> Contingency. Thank you. He took it on contingency because he believes that I got screwed and that we've got a uh >> it's gonna be hard to prove. You know, they don't like to reveal their

[19:15] algorithms. I mean, and they're probably going to say it's just all politics, which is why like when Ted Ra posts a a barn burner of a political cartoon, it gets one like on Facebook. And you know, when Ted Ra posts his cat, you know, he gets thousand. >> Yeah. Yeah. So, I mean, granted, my cat is cuter than my cartoons, but still, >> I filed a I filed a lawsuit against Meta in the Northern District of Texas, and I was very, very lucky to find an investor

[19:45] who is putting up his own money out of his own pocket to get this speaking tour back on track. We're going to restart it in January in Seattle, Portland, San Francisco, Las Vegas, and Salt Lake City. And so we will get to Australia and New Zealand. I promise you it's gonna happen. >> That's that's very very cool. Oh, this one's over from uh Rumble again. >> I look forward to that. >> Okay. >> All right. So about we have a lot to talk about besides this. Is there

[20:17] anything? Do we want to leave this and uh move on? I mean I have high hopes. I mean >> I have high >> I'm a perennial optimist. >> I'm and I'm always overly optimistic and I get slapped down. Oh, and Nick, unfortunately, I'm still banned from Canada as a dangerous national security criminal, so I apologize, but I'm not coming to Canada. >> That's That sucks. >> Um Um >> But yeah, I'm I'm I'm hopeful, but I don't want to get my hopes up too

[20:49] high. >> We'll see. >> All right, let's let's move on to something a little more grim than that. Uh Ice is running wild. Um the uh Monrovia California city manager says there was an ice raid at Home Depot. Where else? Uh a guy ran away. He was chased by ICE agents. Uh he was running across the 210 freeway. Got hit by a car and killed on site. DHS said that they didn't chase him. I know who I believe. >> Um and then there's a new Louisiana

[21:21] lawsuit. You might remember this case um where uh JLV versus Akuna where ICE illegally deported two mothers and their four children who were all US citizens uh illegally including a 5-year-old kid uh with stage 4 kidney cancer to Honduras in April without any due process, no medical care whatsoever. I the moms wanted the kids to stay in the US, but they threatened to take the kids

[21:51] away under threat of foster care. So, um now there's a lawsuit. This we're just collecting these stories right and left now. >> Oh, yeah. Yeah. There there was a kid in uh in Northern California yesterday who was walking his dog. He's just walking down the street with his dog on a leash. Oh, right. and a bunch of uh of INS thugs jump out of a >> He's a 17-year-old kid. >> Yeah. And they they snatched him and no now nobody knows where he is. >> And apparently here in New York City,

[22:22] ICE snatched a seven-year-old out of elementary school. >> Uh yesterday, it's the first known case of a child being plucked out of a New York City public school. >> Oh my god. >> Probably not the last. There are schools now, I saw in Chicago uh yesterday or the day before, schools that are um creating safe areas inside the school where um they're hidden and they're locked and if there's an immigration raid on the school, kids can uh can get

[22:53] to these safe areas and try to sit it out. >> That's I mean, okay, so if you get to the safe area and ICE decides to come to the safe area, is someone going to shoot ICE? Nobody's got the balls to shoot ice. >> No. But we now have our we have our first Well, we now have I guess this is at least two victims, right, who've been killed. There was the guy who at the plant in Arkansas, I think it was, who fell off a fence or fell off a building while trying to escape from ICE. >> Yeah. >> So, um yeah, it's a lopsided death count so far. It's kind of like the uh you

[23:24] know those old charts of the Israel Palestine conflict. Now, you don't even need to have those charts because it's just it's just granted. Um, okay. So, Star Lion saying, "Hollywood's remaking The Running Man. One of my favorite stories." And I really didn't like the execution of the movie at all. >> But the book, The book was brilliant. >> The book, The book is great. It's Stephen King writing as Richard Bachmann. Um, yeah, it just dawned on me how this immigration policy is so similar, >> but not fictional. Yeah, it is. And, uh,

[23:55] yeah. Yeah, it is. Um, it's it's just horrible. So yeah, ISIS is dressing up in construction outfits now. I mean, I mean, they're worse than the Gestapo. At least the Gestapo, you know, they didn't they they didn't disguise themselves. They they were exposed, you know, to the resistance. We knew who they were. Their faces were exposed. They didn't indulge in sleazy tactics like jumping out of a a van, you know, uh, you know, renting a rider truck or a Penske truck or

[24:26] whatever and jumping out of the back at Home Depot. Of course, obviously you should stay away from Home Depot if you're undocumented. Hell, if you're Latino, you should stay away from Home Depot. >> Seriously. >> And and I'll tell you what, I have gone to Home Depot to hire workers at least a half a dozen times. >> And many of them have business cards. Oh, sure. You know, oh, they they've they've set up little LLC's. >> Well, these are hardworking people, right? That's my beef here, right? Like

[24:56] I have no problem at all. Take the gangbangers, take the criminals, take the felons, you know, hell, it saves us, it saves us the money to jail them. Take them away. Send them back to their home country. You guys be you. But like, these are, you know, we were told we were getting rid rid of the worst of the worst. These are not them. These are people. These are law-abiding, hardworking people. I know people will say, "Okay, they're not law-abiding because they entered the country illegally." Actually, a lot of them entered the country legally. They followed all of the rules. They did what

[25:26] they were told and then basically the rules refugee status the rules like basically pulled out from under their feet. >> Hey, real quickly I want to say in response to um to Star Lion, uh tour is also probably unsafe because um they say the US government runs 51% of exit nodes. I'm I'm trying very hard this weekend to learn a lot of these terms and I'm listening very closely and I think what you're saying >> sounds like Bit Torrent, right? I mean, >> yeah.

[25:57] >> What you're saying here, Star Lion, is absolutely true that um it's all about the exit nodes and the government does run a majority of the exit nodes and a lot of >> that's like a it's a call back to like how the NSA started domestic stop spying. It was at the nodes at companies like AT&T. Right. >> That's exactly right. It's it's something that I mean there are a lot of people here who you would expect to see it at an event like this like with really long beards and really long hair and really

[26:28] big bellies because they're just on their computers 20 hours a day and >> and they're all geniuses. And this has been probably the the most driven topic so far today since 10 o'clock this morning. >> Uh yeah. Well, that's I mean it's it's not surprising because of this, you know, especially because of there's so much overt fear of the government. I mean, there's one thing about Trump that I really like. I like a bunch of things

[26:59] about him actually, like the fact that he's talking to the Russians. Um but uh you know one of the things I really like is you know he makes you scared of the government and we should be scared of the government. One of the things I don't like about the back to brunch Democrats is that when Biden or let's say Kamla had won you know everyone would have been like oh everything's fine and everything was decidedly unfine. >> Yeah you can say that again. >> So saying thank again another incredibly generous donation. Um hey we're in New York for the weekend. I mean I'm in New

[27:29] York all the time. Uh here's my contribution for the congestion tax and all the other taxes and tolls. Uh yeah, thank you. Uh the congestion tax is lower on the weekend actually. >> Um >> Oh, good. >> But that's appreciated. Um John, I assume you took the train. Yeah, >> I took the train and u to try to save money. I'm staying with a friend, but he didn't tell me until I was on the train that he's in New Jersey. >> Oh, oops. >> Yeah. And I'm in >> not so maybe not the best friend.

[28:00] >> Oh my god. >> You could have stayed here at Chateau Rale in Manhattan. Next time. >> Next time. >> It's comfortable. It's airond conditioned. >> There's no catches. It's it's on the transit system. >> Um well, since you're since you we're talking about unorthodox um uh living arrangements, I think we should switch over to America's favorite dog killing secretary of cabinet secretary, Christine. >> I did. I was shocked when you sent me this. I was shocked. >> Really? >> Yeah. Listen, Bowling Air Force Base is

[28:32] in what Donald Trump would call a [ __ ] hole area. >> Thank you, Marble. Um, yeah, it's it's bad. It's really bad. It's it's deep in in southeast Washington. It's along the the uh PTOAC River, but on the, you know, the obviously the DC side of the PTOAC River, there's literally nothing anywhere around it. Uh, and it's far from the Department of Homeland Security.

[29:03] So, >> well, so they claim that basically the Daily News kind of uh sort of sort of doxed her and showed photos of her uh living in in at her of her house in Navyyard District. Um and so anyway, because they were concerned that she might be attacked, uh they moved her over to Quarters One right at JB uh Anacostia. Um so, and she's >> gross over there. >> That's that's the Coast Guard's place. So, you were shocked by how gross it was and that she's living there, not by the

[29:35] fact that she's living for free, which is expect Oh, yeah. I would expect a grift from her. Absolutely. >> Yeah. Yeah. Without a doubt. >> So, uh, and you know, when she was apparently when she was governor of South Dakota, she also kind of was accused of grifting $68,000 on upgrading the mansion. I can't imagine the South Dakota governor's mansion. The one in Little Rock, Arkansas, is basically like just a crappy house and $150,000 on

[30:05] campaign travel. Although, you know, it's penny antie really. But >> yeah, >> but whatever. >> Yeah, that's right. >> But she's kind of penny antie. >> Oh, I like this. Uh Alba, I totally agree. Um has as as someone who was married to someone with borderline personality disorder, I I I agree with you. Uh yeah, I think Christy Gnome has it. >> Yeah, I have to agree. Anybody that can shoot an an innocent happy little puppy in the head, >> right? Because it was troublesome. Yeah. >> Like that's your job. Train it.

[30:36] >> Yeah. Yeah. Hard to train. >> So So I mean it What do we have here? The results of uh Oh, yeah. Well, we should talk about Gaza. We weren't going to, but we should. >> May May I interrupt for one second? I I spoke to Miko Pellet about this yesterday. I asked him the same question and um and he said that the Russians have made a strategic policy decision to just not get involved with Gaza. And

[31:06] it's because since the Soviet Union fell apart, almost 2 million Russian and Ukrainian Jews have immigrated to Israel. And it's just such a can of worms that the Russians aren't interested in getting into the middle of it. >> H >> Yeah. And I said, "Well, how does this impact Iran? >> It's too many moving parts." >> Yeah. >> The Russians have a lot to talk to Trump about without thinking about that. >> Oh my gosh. Yes.

[31:37] >> I mean, I would I would be the first to say you guys shouldn't be talking about this. >> I would agree. I agree. I mean, expect anything from the Russians. And somebody even before we started the show, Ted, somebody asked, I'll go back early on um asked about >> uh a story that I that I talked about where the the Saudis had offered to pay for a port, an airport, an electrical grid, water dalination plants. When was that? That was in 1991, the summer of 1991. And the Israelis said absolutely

[32:10] not. >> Well, they didn't. Yeah. They don't >> 36 years later >> they don't want that at all. >> Uh that's a good question. Uh the answer is probably no. Is there a Apac in other words riac in Russia? No, there isn't. Although Russia def definitely had cordial relations with Israel decades. Yes. >> Which is surprising when you think about the fact that so many uh Israelis are former uh Soviet citizens who fled the former Soviet Union. That's right. Um,

[32:42] >> in fact, there are neighborhoods in in both Tel Aviv and Jerusalem where you only hear Russian spoken. The signs are in Russian. The the political ads are in Russian. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. It's it's heavily Russian. >> Yeah. Yeah. For sure. So, >> and Marcel's got a question here. This is that's the the $64,000 question. What cards would Russia even have for Gaza negotiations? None that I can think of. >> No. >> Not anymore. >> No. Not at all. Um well, you know, we probably should talk a little bit about

[33:13] uh Israel. There's um this new plan that uh the E1 settlement plan, for people who don't know what that is, uh e the West Bank is divided into districts that have these acronyms uh like E1 and so on. And so this one district called E1, this right-wing uh dude, uh God, uh Smootrich, um he introduced a a settlement plan to introduce more settlements uh into uh for 3,400 new housing units in a town

[33:45] called Maala Adum. Um both the UN and the UK say these settlements are illegal. Well, they're all illegal. Um but he's he's brazenly saying that this is about destroying any possible two-state solution by splitting up the West Bank once and for all. The US uh so the UN uh has issued its latest statement. They say it's a war crime if it goes forward. Um that's couldn't be clearer. The US however is sort of saying well we're okay with it as long

[34:16] as it's not destabilizing. But of course, it's as destabilizing as destabilizing knows how to be. >> Yeah. Yeah. I have to agree. I have to agree. Um I think it it it would be greatly destabilizing. You know, I wanted to say something too about um Well, Les is mentioning it here and um somebody mentioned it a moment ago. Oh, MW Knox. Yes, thank you. uh about Tucker

[34:48] Carlson's interview with this Greek Orthodox nun in the West Bank. Have you followed this at all, Ted? >> No. >> I wish I could think like Tucker Carlson thinks I would make so much more money. >> Um Tucker, >> course he also inherited all his money. >> Yeah. Yeah. He inherited the Swanson frozen foods >> billions. >> Yeah. >> Um so Tucker interviewed this Greek Orthodox nun in who's lived in the West Bank. uh for the last 29 years. Her name is

[35:18] Mother Agapia Stephanopoulos >> and she >> no relationship to George. >> No, it's a very common name. It it just means the the daughter of Steven from the Pelpeneisian Peninsula. >> Okay. >> That's what means from the Pelines. >> Oh, cool. >> And Houdini is right. They people are viciously attacking this poor nun led by Ted Cruz who is quickly becoming one of the most anti-Christian elected officials in America.

[35:49] >> Bizarre >> because he's shilling for the Zionists. That's what this is all about. So, um, so she gave this interview and it was about what it's like to be a Christian and a Palestinian in the West Bank and what the Israeli government does. Yesterday, yesterday, the Israeli government seized all real estate holdings of the Orthodox Patriarchet of Jerusalem. Now, mind you,

[36:20] the Orthodox Patriarchet of Jerusalem was created in the year 465. >> Doesn't I mean, didn't they own almost basically a quarter of Jerusalem? >> Yes. >> Wow. >> And they said, "Oh, well, they haven't paid their taxes, so we're seizing everything that you've held since the year 465." >> I mean, it's kind of like it would be an act of war if it there was someone who who would fight it, you know? Is she George Stephanopoulos's sister?

[36:50] Is that what you said? Um, you know what? I'll look I honestly George Stephanopoulos's father baptized me when I was six weeks old. Um, he was our parish priest. >> I went to college with George. >> George has always been kind of an [ __ ] to me. >> He was an [ __ ] in college, too. >> Wow. Um, okay, I stand corrected. That's his sister. Um, I didn't know he had a sister, to tell you the truth. Anyway, she goes into detail in this in this thing

[37:21] um about what it's like to live as a Palestinian Christian. And you know what it's like? It's the same as living as a Palestinian Muslim because the Israelis don't give two shits if you're a Christian. >> I have seen the checkpoints um in in old in the old city. It's amazing. I mean, actually, you know, I got to tell you, the way that the Israelis treat people, >> the what's really surprising is how little violence and how little resistance there is on the part of their

[37:51] victims. Really truly, most people put up with a lot more than you would think they would. >> I'm I'm answering uh Lulu here. She says they it it's because evangelicals don't believe Orthodoxy is Christian. And I'm I'm writing I always get a kick out of that because we don't believe evangelical Christians. >> Well, I mean I mean the the Orthodox the Orthodox is the Orthodox dudes were there first, right? I mean it's like

[38:21] well the evangelicals don't believe that Catholics are Christian. Correct. >> It's kind of like well but Catholics are OG. >> Yeah. The Catholics and the Orthodox >> and the Coptics >> were and the cops. Yes. We're the originals. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. It's it's very very strange. Everyone's always like, "My thing's real. Your thing's fake." Um so all right so this this settlement plan I mean you know obviously the the settlements are just never going to stop I I think but in a way yeah so the West Bank has become because of I mean

[38:52] obviously the West Bank is the sideshow in the Middle East conflict. It ought not to be um the sellers are running wild. They're they're burning. They're they're killing and uh and and maming and raping and burning and torching Palestinians and their settlements and I mean in their not their settlements, their towns um and their ancestral homes and destroying their crops. Um and it would be front and center if not for the bloodshed in Gaza is so much more severe. The Israeli settlers are just

[39:22] taking advantage of the fact that all eyes are on Gaza. >> Yeah. You know, I read something too uh just the other day. Uh you know, remember you and I were um you and I were talking about um um Oh, dog gone it. No, I I'll come back to it now. I have a mental blank. I I'll think of it. >> Okay. So, this is interesting. We'll have to look into this. I'll ask producer Robbie about this uh when he gets back. So, the ads on Rumble don't buffer the live content and resume

[39:54] later, but essentially skip over it. After all, both YouTube and Rumble are still in sync. Well, a couple seconds apart. That's weird. >> That is weird. >> All right. Well, we'll look into that. Um, but thanks for, you know, these are growing pains on this show. Uh, we'll figure it out. Um, >> yeah. >> All right. Talking about Sideshow Bob. >> I call I called him Sideshow Bob this morning in a conversation I was having. >> Well, it's so it's so easy. He's uh he's back and dissing Joe Reagan. All right. Well, you know, there's that. Um yeah,

[40:27] this is kind of true. All eyes are on Russia, so Gaza is in trouble until it's over. And Gaza is in trouble anyway. Um I still think this is going to play out in the end. You know, someone asked when will it end? I mean, obviously, nobody knows, but my guess is it's going to be an East Teeour situation. Uh the Palestinians will get their freedom, >> but there will be half of them will be left. >> Yeah, >> that's that's what will happen. I I agree with you. >> Um I mean that's the optimistic >> view as as sick as it is to say that.

[40:57] >> Yes, indeed. >> John, let me ask skip to something fun before we go to something serious. >> Uh in front of the your old your old job there in Langley, there is a statue um that's been up there for I guess 35 years or so. It's called the crypto. >> I was there at the unveiling. >> Oh, really? >> In 1990. So uh so Jim Sandborn is the sculptor uh and basically there's four panels on it as I understand it and they are all code and people have figured out

[41:29] the have they have decrypted the first three but the fourth one's never been solved. It's like one of those classic uh math problem uh you know math problems. And um so finally Jim Sandborn was tired of being asked over and over and over about it and he's like okay I'm going to auction off not the statue. I thought when I first read this that the sculpture itself was going to be auctioned but it's going to stay put. But he's expecting between three and $500,000 at auction for the solution to

[42:00] the K4 panel. >> Um did you ever try to to to work on it? I would look at that dogone thing every single day for almost 15 years. So, it's it's shaped in an S like sitting on its side and all through it. It's there are letters punched in the entire thing and the letters the word cryptos uh repeats itself like a hundred times. Kryptos, cryptos, kryptos. It's everywhere and then there are other letters interspersed in between the words

[42:30] cryptos and then that's it. So there's some message embedded in there. And when I was there in the 90s, um there was an attempt to to load the information into a Cray computer and have the computer crack the code and it just couldn't crack the code. >> Wow. >> How's that even possible? So for a while for for a long while uh you know these codereakers from NSA and CIA have have worked to try to

[43:02] decipher what it says and the the artist has never revealed what the message is. >> I mean you know the NSA right their headquarters in Fort me is known as the puzzle palace. Isn't code really I always assumed coding was more their perview. >> It's all it's all their thing. Yeah. It's >> like if CIA So CIA had a problem, they could contact their their colleagues over at NSA and say, "Hey, can you look at this?" And Yeah. >> Yeah. Um it is their thing, but the CIA

[43:32] the CIA cracked uh the N the OSS cracked the Nazi codes along with the the British uh MI6, >> like the Enigma machine and all that. >> Yeah, the Enigma machine. >> That's a cool machine. They've got one on display in the in the CIA museum on the first floor. Um, but you're right, deciphering code is really 99% NSA's Bailey Wick. >> So, what's the So, what was the You were there for the unveiling. I mean, what was how did they explain like why, you

[44:03] know, the the the artistic reason that they put that statue there? Just because it would be fun. >> Yeah, they had just built the new headquarters building a year and a half earlier. um old headquarters wasn't big enough and so they more than doubled the size of CIA headquarters and uh you know they planted some shrubs and they were looking for public art. They thought it would be kind of you know tongue and cheek and so uh and so they they did it. >> Uh that's pretty I I agree with this.

[44:33] This is my kind of thing. What if it was all a prank, right? >> And that's why the computer couldn't break it. But I I guess for three to $500,000, we're gonna find out. Unless it's uh you know like that like that uh who's the like that Banksy thing that self-destructed at auction. >> Loved it. >> Fantastic. >> Brilliant. Uh and uh Starline points out correctly that Vault 7 revealed that the the CIA in many of these areas is going it alone. Listen, when you've got a

[45:06] budget that is literally unlimited and you are unaccountable to anybody visav what you spend the money on sure why not duplicate what everybody else is doing you expand how many how many intelligence agencies are there 14 or 16? >> Uh no it's uh 18 now. >> Okay. >> Yeah. And there's all these agencies that like most Americans never ever hear about like right like the MAPS agency and all these DIA nobody ever talks about.

[45:40] >> Well, those poor guys. Yeah. You don't you don't want to join the DIA. >> Really? What's wrong with the DIA? >> That's where that's where that's where people went when they couldn't make it into CIA or NSA. I mean, literally all they do at DIA is they have these big maps and they just they just move little models of soldiers from one area to the other. It's called the Order of Battle Briefing, which are they're mindnumbingly boring, and that's all those guys do.

[46:11] >> Okay, I got a couple of John questions here. Is the octopus thing real or just a conspiracy? >> I watched it and it's No, it's >> it's [ __ ] >> Yeah. >> Uh, okay. And then my uh oh this is I know the answer to this one without asking. Did you travel first class since they have an unlimited budget? >> Business class 72 countries. >> Yes. The the deal is that you can travel business class if you report to the office within 24 hours of arrival. >> Okay. I mean I would think that first

[46:41] class might attract the wrong kind of attention too. Business makes sense. It's right in between. >> I I've said this many times. This is a cover problem because CIA people are the only government employees on diplomatic passports traveling business class. All the other people with diplomatic passports are in cattle class in the back. >> So you can immediately spot >> the CIA people. >> That's awesome. >> Bad cover. Very bad.

[47:12] >> There's some Central Asian stories. Uh you know you and are you and I are old stomping grounds. uh un unbeknownst to each other, we were there at the same time. I love this story about Bitcoin mining. So, it turns out that uh you know, Central Asia has always struck me as a place where, you know, you can pull some [ __ ] because nobody's paying attention and like and there's kind of almost no government really. I mean, there's a government, but you know, they're not really paying that much attention to you or to their citizens. Anyway, turns out that there's illegal I

[47:44] didn't even know you could do this. There's illegal Bitcoin mining in Central Asia. And basically what that means is the whole theory of Bitcoin which I think is [ __ ] up beyond belief is that you know you can mine more bit m uh you can you can mine it and create it yourself with your own computers working at all the time and basically the limit the in so the intrinsic limitation is the amount of power that it uses. So therefore you have to make it use a lot of power. So literally it's kind of like a big [ __ ] you to the environment and um

[48:17] like inherently right no matter even if you think Bitcoin is a great idea I'm not even going to get into whether I believe in it or not that's you know subjective and what I think about that doesn't matter but the environmental thing is ridiculous but anyway in Tajikhstan um people uh the lo local the local uh rogues um stole three and a half million dollars from sto in stolen electricity in the first quarter of this year alone. Tajjikstan is a you know well it is a

[48:47] less poor than it used to be but still the poorest country in the former Soviet Union. Um so that's a lot of that's a lot. Um they've charged 100 there's 190 cases involving almost 4,000 people that the Tajik authorities have caught doing this. Um meanwhile, the Kazaks found a 16.5 million dollar scheme involving 50 megawws. Um you linked to uh Russian and Chinese miners exploiting weak oversight. Um so basically, you know, you look at the location, right?

[49:18] Tajikistan borders China, Kazakhstan also borders China and uh also Russia. Um, and so, you know, you can sort of see like this is kind of like Silk Road smuggling like the old days, but it's Bitcoin. >> I was um also surprised to see this. It seems to me like it would be hard to steal electricity and kind of dangerous. >> Yeah, for sure. Especially at that level. I mean, you know, things can explode. Um, you know, I mean, I think

[49:50] it's like when you see the homeless guy opening up the bottom of the lamp post with a screwdriver and like and trying to run a radio or charge their phone off of it. >> Exactly. >> It's one of the reasons that in New York they they introduced these like phone chargers like kiosks on the street for homeless people so that they wouldn't do that. Oh, when I was living in New York in 2002, um, a whole bunch of dogs were getting electrocuted because they were peeing on lampost and the lamposts weren't properly grounded and they were killing the dogs. >> That makes China laugh. That is funny

[50:21] though. >> Uh, but can you imagine doing this? Like, you know, this is like the way poor people in Nigeria uh smash holes into the oil pipelines and try to steal oil and then sell it on the black market. and um every couple of years they explode and kill hundreds and hundreds of people, wipe out entire villages. It seems like it would be the same thing. When I was in Hong Kong last year to go to a Bitcoin conference, total complete waste of time. Um one of the present not presenters, one

[50:53] of the the big um kiosks was sponsored by the government of uh Bolivia, right? So, there are 200 little startups that nobody's ever heard of and then this giant tent sponsored by the government of Bolivia because they wanted everybody to know what cheap electricity they have. They have solar, they have wind, they have hydro power. Come and mine your Bitcoin in Bolivia. And people were

[51:24] like mobbed into this place like, "Oh, what a great idea." It just seems all kind of nuts to me. >> Yeah, I think it's I think it is completely insane. What What Why did the world need new more money >> or new money or I know it's kind of not money but it kind of is money. >> I agree. Uh that yeah, Bitcoin with Tom. Bitcoin is not a currency. It's a speculation. >> We're being asked what are our favorite stons? In other words, uh Turkmanistan, Usbekistan, Kyrgystan, Kazakhstan,

[51:54] Tajikistan. Um, I like them all to be honest, but I really do. Um, I would say Usuzbekistan's the most got the most to do, but >> and maybe the best food. >> That might be true. And it has the best cities and it has a real it has real cities, including one with a met with a metro, Tash Kent. But I have to admit, I'm really really partial to uh Kyrgystan. Um, the people the people are great. um they're you know they're they

[52:25] they are whenever there's a border dispute in the Central Asian Republic Kirgeis negotiators are brought in to settle things because they're widely accepted as being like wise you know like basically there's all these theories >> about the you know like basically the central Asians all have different reputations right like the Tajiks are reputed to be kind but kind of dim um the uh Turkmen are kind of thought of as being kind of dumb Uh the Lisbeks are aggressive like almost like Americans

[52:56] like basically you know a little bit invadey and hostile and bullying. Uh the Kazaks are are kind of like stick up the ass like sticklers for the rules. >> Yeah. >> Um I remember they they would when you had to declare every penny that you entered Kazakhstan, they would make you count everything out, every bit of currency. If you were off by a penny, they'd take it all. If you weren't off at all, you could have a million dollars. They'd let you keep it. But you had to be exactly right. And so I mean it's but uh you know I mean I do I I

[53:26] like the Kiergeis. I mean Turk Menistan is cool and weird. I mean it's got the best bazaar I've ever been to in my life. >> Really? >> Tolkucha outside of Ashkabbat. Yeah. I mean best place to buy carpets in the world without a doubt. And and antiques and all sorts of other good stuff. Old Soviet crap. It's great. >> Oh you you and I should have a conversation later offline about that. Okay, let's do that. >> Yeah. >> Okay. Um, >> I have to say I have not been to as many as you have, but I'm really really

[53:57] partial to Pakistan. >> Oh, yeah. >> I really am, man. The history and the food and the landscape. >> I like the north. >> Especially in the north. >> Yeah. where you drive down the road, you see, you know, cows and horses and and, you know, whatever, but then you see wild boores running down the side of the mountain and then there are there's a tree full of monkeys >> and they're like mean hostile monkeys that >> and the water buffaloos look out >> water buffaloos. It's crazy

[54:29] >> crazy. >> I mean, yeah, the the the myth of Shangla, right, is based in uh in Pakistani Kashmir. And then going over to the um to the uh the Afghan border up north at Pashaw for example ever pass. Oh my god. I've never seen anything like it. >> I got Yeah, I got to do that. Uh it was amazing. There's a there's a train, you know. There's >> I want to do the train. >> A steam a steam engine train. >> Yes. And the kyber rifles ride on top like in the old days like you know and

[54:59] and the thing is apparently full of dinged with bullet holes because they get ambushed all the time. you know, the Kyber Pass is not worried about worried about getting sick when I was up there. >> Well, that's a good concern >> that and I was really worried about it. So, I found a uh what's the British uh it's like the British version of Subway sandwiches. >> Oh, Wimpies. >> Wimpies. Wimpies. Thank you. So, I went into Wimpies and they had um baloney

[55:31] and I said, "Uh, yeah, give me a bologoney and cheese on white bread." And he's like, "Okay, do you want tomato?" "Nope." >> Gross. >> Lettuce? No. Mayo? No. None of that stuff >> just to throw it at a customs and border for >> Yeah. And and I would just go back to the wimpies every day that I was in Pashawer. You were just trying. >> I was the only one who didn't get sick in the end because you ate that. >> We went to the British uh the officers club one night for for beers and everybody got sick there.

[56:01] >> Oh, no. It's I mean I I have lost so much weight. Like I'm a little chubby right now. I could really stand a trip to Central Asia. The diarrhea diet plan will will definitely take care of it. >> I had an oldtime tell me when I first arrived. I said, "You know, I'm a little bit worried about getting sick." He goes, "Oh, you're going to get sick." Oh, yeah. He said, "Listen, if you just accept the fact that you're going to get sick, you're probably going to [ __ ] yourself at some point, but just don't tear yourself up about it. Then you're

[56:32] going to be okay." >> Yeah. It's just going to happen. Hydrate. >> Yeah. Hydrate. I never shot myself, but I was sick for at least 50% of the time that I was stationed in Pakistan. Low-grade fever, cramps. Yeah. No, I mean the cramps uh the first time I went to Central Asia, I mean it was just it's like a knives turning in your in your stomach over and over and over. >> Yep. And then you get the chills in the middle of the night and oh my god it's just terrible. >> Every time you go it's less it's less bad.

[57:02] >> Mhm. >> Although I've gotten giardia a few times out there. >> Oh my god. I I was hospitalized in Cairo with giardia once. Like for death to liberate me from this thing. >> And what's really rough is it's in your system for for the rest of your life. And whenever your immune system is weak, it can come back any time, even when you're eating rice. So, >> yes. Hey, and and uh What Nonsense is reminding us very appropriately that we um we need to remind people to please, please like and uh subscribe, please. It

[57:32] helps. >> Like, follow and share the show. Please, please, please. I'll put it up again. >> Share, subscribe, follow, all that stuff. >> All right. I felt so welcomed in Pakistan. I'll tell you what, I'll tell you two little things. When I got home, um, I remember my wife, well, she wasn't my wife then, and she was my girlfriend, but she woke me up in the middle of the night. She said, "You're talking in your sleep." And to tell you the truth, that's that's a thing at the agency that if you're

[58:03] talking in your sleep and you realize it or someone tells you, you have to report yourself to security, right? because you may be talking about classified programs. So I said I said, "Oh my god, was I speaking gibberish or did you understand what I what I said?" And you said or she said you said you were in Lahore and you were going out to buy spices. >> That was one thing. >> There goes your clearance suit. And he says, >> "Oh my god." >> Uh any qu any issues with the mosquitoes

[58:35] in Pakistan? >> Oh yes yes yes. They gave us um chloroquinine before we left um for to fight malaria. I was like one of the only people that didn't come back with malaria and that's another thing that keeps coming back years after you get it. >> But um chlorinine gives you such vicious ferocious nightmares >> that after three or four

[59:05] >> Yeah. I three or four nights I was like I I' I'd rather just risk the malaria. And so what I did is I kept for for the whole, you know, eight months that I was there, I kept the ceiling fan on full blast just to keep the mosquitoes off of me. >> So it was awful. >> Yeah, mosquitoes are a problem everywhere in the developing world. Uh no question about it. Um Central Asia is not so bad. I mean Pakistan, South Asia, not Central Asia. >> South Asia. Yeah. Um but uh yeah, no I

[59:36] mean it definitely uh you know I I got to say I had really mixed reviews for Pakistan. I had some of my best and some of my worst experiences there. I mean you know driving down the the street in a jeep and having little kids throw rocks at us because you know we're obviously Americans and you know I think it's the most anti-American >> country I've ever been to. Worse than Afghanistan. I'm gonna say um yeah, that's probably true. Yemen's pretty bad. >> Oh yeah, I found Yeah. Yeah,

[1:00:08] >> I saw that in Yemen, but I didn't >> Yeah. >> experience. I wasn't >> Pakistan and Yemen probably the two most anti-American um >> never understood what the why the Pakistanis got a raise after 911 at all. Um while we're talking about Central Asia though, um also uh this just slipped through the news, right? So I didn't know that any country had uh recognized the Taliban government that took over in the fall of 2021 but they did. Uh Russia has now u given formal

[1:00:41] diplomatic relationships to Taliban. I mean that's a huge thing not just because Russia is a massive country but also considering the history right of the of the of the Russian war the Soviet war in in Russia where they got their asses kicked and handed to them. um you know so the fact of them doing that is amazing and then speaking of central Asia Kazakhstan has recognized a talib as charge of affairs and Tajjikhstan which is a neighbor I had a fun conversation with the minister of foreign affairs in Duchon Bay in

[1:01:11] Tajjikstan and we're talking about Afghanistan and I said oh what do you think and he said oh you mean our rowdy neighbor to the south [Music] and it's like that's fair you know this was in >> this was in 2001 when he told me that it's like very rowdy. It's kind of like these people keep you up all night long. Um it's like yeah I mean you gota I mean those it's got to be tough for the to be like Tajjikstan is really like sort of

[1:01:42] they have a lot of people all around them who kind of like are a pain in the ass, right? >> It's a rough neighborhood. That's >> it is a rough neighborhood. Um yeah, but the Tajik they their their only natural resource was really rocks and ice until recently and then they they found oil um you know about 10 years ago through deep super deep drilling. They there's a new technique where they can go up a mile and a half down and get the oil and the Tajik are like hey we have oil too. It's a game

[1:02:13] changer. >> Wow. >> So >> which I mean and that's a country also god that civil war right. I mean the signs of it are everywhere. You still see the tanks all over the place. But like in the 90s, nobody gave any shits about Tajjikstan while they were slaughtering each other. I mean it was brutal there. And uh and basically they all sides just I I always say this is like the peace. This is like what peace looks like. All sides were armed by u they were all proxies, right? Like there was a a Taliban proxy, a US proxy, a

[1:02:45] Chinese proxy. everybody, all the foreign powers lost interest, stopped funding. They they exhausted themselves, and at a certain point, they signed a power sharing a agreement, and they were just like, "Yeah, we're just going to like have to live with each other and just rebuild." They never had a revolution or anything. They never overthrew President Rakmon. Uh but uh you know, they they've they've gotten it together. They've they've turned it around. I mean, it's a cool place to see. >> I'd love to see it. I'd love to. And I'd

[1:03:15] love to go to Mongolia. >> Oh, that's that's my next plan. I want to go I want to go horse trekking in Mongolia. >> Yeah. >> You know, there's I got an invitation. >> And there's also that Jewish uh autonomous oblast in southeastern Russia. Yes. By the Kazak Mongolian border. >> I'm dying to go see that. >> I um I got a call from Afia Sadiki's attorney day before yesterday. Afia Sadiki is a Harvard educated Harvard medical school educated physician who um

[1:03:48] self-radicalized uh joined al-Qaeda and um fired at several uh FBI agents while she was uh being interrogated. Um she she's been sentenced to like life without parole, whatever. Uh and she's been in prison since 200 seven or eight. >> And um and uh word has just gotten out that

[1:04:18] when she was arrested along with her three children, the CIA took the children and um and just placed them with strangers. Well, the two oldest children made their way back to Afia Sadiki's sister, who's also a Harvard Medical School trained urologist. Uh, and these children are US citizens, by the way. The youngest was 6 months old. Nobody ever figured out where she was sent. Now, here it is 20 years later.

[1:04:50] >> Wow. >> 18 years later, nobody knows where this child is. So, he's suing the CIA on her behalf. and he asked me if I would go to Afghanistan with him to give a deposition to some United Nations group that I don't I don't understand the whole thing. I said, you know, I'm I'm very uncomfortable going to Afghanistan because of what I used to do, but um but I I would con I would consider it,

[1:05:22] >> you know. I mean, my my take on that would be it would work if you visited an Afghan consulate first. Um, you know, if you can find one, maybe the one in Moscow >> and just sort of explain the situation to them and just sort of say like, well, you know, >> I mean, >> Afghans are very reasonable people, but things have to be explained and and you know, as you know, a safe conduct piece of paper will get you out of every problem. >> Got that right. So, >> hey, have we ever considered going to

[1:05:53] North Africa? I love North Africa. I've been many times. It's >> I've only been to Morocco. I want to do more. >> Um, Morocco, Tunisia, Algeria, and I've been four or five times to Egypt. Really great. >> Yeah, North Africa. I'm I'm dying to, especially because I speak French, you know. So, Algeria and Tunisia, it' be super interesting for me. But, I mean, it's it's North Africa. I'm pissed honestly at Hillary Clinton because I I had already studied up about Libya and

[1:06:25] the and the Lonely Planet guide. I was dying to go to Apparently it had like one of the best bizaars in in the world also. And you know they [ __ ] Hillary Clinton and and Barack Obama broke that country. >> They did. They broke it. And it's more than what a decade and a half ago and it still is is a complete and total disaster. >> Yeah. Because of those two [ __ ] >> Mhm. Well, okay, one last official topic and whatever questions. Uh, so the um

[1:06:59] Democrats, this won't take long. Uh, Democrats in is uh they are they are introducing resolutions to end Trump's uh federalization of the DC police. Uh they're going after the state of emergency that he declared and uh calling out the National Guard. They there's also some lawsuits that argue that he's violating Trump that is the 1973 Home Rule Act which restores uh just like it would sounds uh you know local rule to DC. Um so Jamie Rascin and

[1:07:31] Chris Vonaland are doing this. Um obviously the Republicans are in charge of Congress so I'm going to assume no nothing at all. Right. I mean nothing's going to happen here. Uh, no. Nothing's going to happen. And just as we predicted, just as we predicted, the federal law enforcement figures that the that the White House sent in have done nothing but write seat belt tickets, brake light tickets, and

[1:08:02] cleaned out the uh homeless encampments. This has nothing to do with fighting crime. Nothing. >> So, where do the homeless go? And and why are they doing that? Is that's like a way to sort of get contact and collect information from DC people? Like, you know, when you write a ticket to someone, you get their driver's license information, you get their data, you have their body camera. >> Oh, no. I think they just want to be dicks to tell you the truth. Uh but in terms of the of clearing out the homeless encampments, they're just there's a there's a law in DC that

[1:08:34] you're supposed to give the homeless 14 days notice that you're going to push them out unless the encampment is along a highway and then they get 24 hours. And so the White House is giving them 24 hours no matter where they are. And they're just pushing them deeper into the woods in Rock Creek Park. This is just so tourists won't be able to see homeless people. That's what it's all about. >> Ridiculous. >> Terrible. >> So, um, you know, the thing is that as

[1:09:06] my friend Scott Stantis likes to say, uh, Trump has the, uh, has the has has the attention span of a deranged flea. So, probably he's going to like forget all about this in no time. But, it is terrifying just how everyone puts up with it. And really, you have to. I mean, armed men pull you over and you know, you you're not wearing your seatelt. Well, you know, I mean, what can you do? >> Yeah. Whatever you do, don't throw a sandwich at the guy. >> Yeah. >> 10 years in prison.

[1:09:36] >> Certainly not. Um, you know, I mean Yeah. I mean, obviously those charges are going to be dropped, right? They'll be dropped. Oh, yeah. >> That's what always happens. >> Always. You know, it's like when when in New York they go after the mob, right? They they arrest 20 guys. They make him do the perp walk. They say they're going to charge him with RICO predicates. They're all going to get 50 to life. And then six months later, very quietly, they all take a guilty plea to a gambling charge and get six months. >> Always. And the protesters, same thing,

[1:10:08] right? They cattle them. They treat them like [ __ ] And then it's like, you know, oh, you you know, like the rowdy, the ones at Columbia University and during the RNC in 2004 and all that. >> It's always like that. Um, let's see. 31 Arab countries. Well, I don't know what this means. Tariq will have to tell us. 31 countries issue a joint statement about greater Israel. All right. Well, I don't know what that >> probably probably warning us, which Americans need to be warned. >> Yeah. This is >> Yeah. Well, yeah. Yeah. I mean, the

[1:10:40] Israelis have I mean, one of the ways I can really tell that the Israelis are up against the ropes and their husband this week is called In Defense of October 7th. And I've heard almost nothing from these [ __ ] So, you can only imagine, I mean, I'm not saying they were right to kill civilians and stuff like that, but basically, you have to read the column. But that title, right, it's kind of clickbaity, right? And you know, it's like I got a few people who are like, "Well, that's a

[1:11:11] provocative column." I mean, can you imagine writing something that that a year ago? I mean, you know, you'd be lucky to have your head still attached. >> You got that right. >> Yeah. So, anyway, uh >> a busy week and uh yeah, you and I are going to hang tomorrow. So, we should go and you should get prepared for your speech because obviously now that you know what you're going to talk about, it's good. You can you can get ready. Uh John, always a pleasure. Everyone, thank

[1:11:42] you so much for joining us here. Uh it's been a busy week. We will be back Monday 5:00 Eastern time here with DP program with uh me, Ted R, and John Kiryaku. And uh we will you can find us online. Uh in the meantime, you can always uh write to both John and I through our respective websites. Just Google them and it'll it'll come right up. Um please like, follow, and share the show. And uh see y'all later. >> Five days next week. >> Five days.
