Title: Podcast UFO Live Shows
Show: Podcast UFO Live Shows
Date: 2025-09-12
URL: https://youtu.be/eBMOS09-qx4
Duration: 12:00

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[00:00] So, we pulled off to the side of the road and we got out of the car and we're standing there and we're watching this thing just hover >> and it's not making any sound at all. Nothing. It's just completely silent. >> A guy pulls up behind us, gets out of the car, and he says, "What the heck is that?" >> And my dad said, "I don't know." And then it went like that at at this fantastic speed. Like it went directly

[00:30] away from us, but at a at a speed that was like incalculable. And we just stood there looking up into the, you know, night sky thinking, is it going to come back? Is it, you know, some kind of experimental jet? I mean, I I had never in my life seen anything like it, and neither had he. So, we get back in the car. We start driving again, and we're silent. >> Yeah. >> And then I said to I said to him, "So,

[01:02] should we call somebody? Should we like call the cops or something?" And he said, "And tell them what? We saw a flying saucer and it flew away." He said, "They're going to think we're nuts." >> Yeah. So, we didn't tell anybody until the next day. We went home after the end of the shift and we told my mom. She said, "Oh, come on." And my dad said, "I'm telling you, we saw a UFO." >> And I've been thinking I was I was 17 years old and I'm 60 now

[01:33] >> and I still think about it all the time. >> Yeah. You know, so some it affects everyone differently. You know, I've talked to people that say, "Oh, yeah, that happened." And you know, no crazy sighting too and like oh yeah that happened at you know what's for dinner >> but other people >> they shrug their shoulders like I don't I don't know what it is. >> Yeah. And that's why I'm here and I I have to tell you you know I had my sighting in California and it was something that baffled me. If I had a camera I might have not thought to take

[02:05] a picture. And I was in a hot tub and the thing that the and there was no bubbles and there was no sound. And that's what freaked me out the most. This thing was actually moving at a steady pace and there was absolutely no sound and I just couldn't understand why there was no sound. Now I have to and I called the cops and I got ridiculed, you know. >> See? Exactly. Exactly. You know, Jimmy Carter when he was governor of Georgia, he saw one and he called the cops and he

[02:36] filed a report saying that it hovered in the air. It was buzzing and they ridiculed him and then they released the report during the 1976 presidential campaign just as a way to mock him and make him sound like he was crazy. >> Yeah. Well, I think they may have explained what that is. There was some type of failed launch or something, but it's possible. It's possible. And I I don't but I think even the grandson agreed to it, you I mean, there was something I watched, but still there's

[03:08] so many more examples of people that have seen these things. And the ridicule factor is a lot less today than it was. I'm sure you're aware of when the uh Pentagon, you know, uh then 2000 2017 when the article came out in the New York Times um with the videos and all that that kind of changed the ridicule factor. Yes. Way down. A lot of people were convinced on the one hand or silenced on the other. >> You know, before we started the show

[03:39] too, you and I were talking about something something else. Um, when I was a kid, I had a lot of family here in the Washington area. And so when I was a kid, we used to come down to Washington for summer vacations and stay with our relatives. Well, my dad's cousin, who was my godfather, owned a a very prominent uh steakhouse in Oldtown Alexandria, Virginia, >> and he would get, you know, senators and congressmen and bankers and politicians

[04:10] uh you know, from the city. And it was it was sort of a crossroads for movers and shakers in Washington. and his son who worked there as as a manager of the restaurant had a friend who was there one day when when I was there and he happened to be an F-14 pilot. So, I'm thinking this is 19 say 77 or 78 and um and he told us this

[04:41] story. He just volunteered this story that he was based at Langley Air Force Base um in Norfick, Virginia. >> Mh. >> And he said all of the pilots had seen these phenomena, whatever they were. In fact, he had seen one. He followed it for a while and it went down into the water, it stayed down there for a while and then it came back up. And he said he was so rattled that when he landed and reported it to

[05:13] his superiors and some of the other pilots, the other pilots have said, "Oh, I've seen that. I've seen where they go down into the water and come back up." and he said he filed his his flight report and nobody ever bothered to, you know, ask him follow-up questions to question, you know, was that really what you saw or could it have been something else? They just accepted it like, "Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Everybody sees those." They go down to the water, they come up and I remember he said that it was almost like the thing was drinking. It

[05:46] went down into the water on purpose and stayed down there and then came back up. Did you describe a shape of any kind? Do you remember? >> He said that that was a a cylinder like a Yeah, like a like a cigar is what he said. >> There's a lot of people describing cigar- shaped, you know, UFOs and you know, I mean, but that's the first one I've heard of a cigar shape in the water, but um you know, in and out of the water, USO, UFO, USO, whatever you want to call that one, but uh

[06:18] fascinating. May I ask you a question? >> Yeah. >> I don't know if you happened to see uh on Netflix, it was like Unsolved Mysteries or It was one of these one of these shows that Netflix just posted in the last year and there was a very detailed episode about these sightings over Lake Michigan. >> Um >> Yes. Yes. >> What do you make of that? because almost all of the witnesses were employees of the National Weather Service and not

[06:48] only did they see them in the sky, but they followed them on the radar >> and those went down into the water. What do you make of that? >> I think there's really something to that and that that the main person on that in that uh episode was on my show and uh like a year before he told me that he was uh they had already filmed that episode for Netflix. But I but uh anyway there's he has a a total science mind

[07:18] and was absolutely baffled by what he was seeing there. So yeah, there was really something to that and the same thing, you know, Lake Michigan, another big body of water. >> And interestingly, they said that where the lake had frozen, they avoided that part. >> They went over the the water that hadn't frozen and then down into the water. >> Yeah. Yeah, which is interesting too. >> That is a great a great that that night was a great great event that you really don't hear a lot about. Matter of fact,

[07:49] I until you just brought it up, I basically haven't thought about that one for for quite a while. >> I was fascinated because it it lasted for hours >> and it wasn't just, you know, one guy who may have been too tired while he was, you know, on the job in the middle of the night. It was like a dozen different people and they all watched it unfold on the radar as well. >> Right. Right. Yeah, that's a that's a real good one. I I have reached out to and I can't think of his name right off the bat. I've reached out to him again after that aired. I'd like to talk to

[08:22] him again about that. You know what? He I think he received a lot of flack for that. I do believe he did. >> In fact, he quit his job. >> Yeah, that's right. Yeah. Which is really sad. You know, there's a lot of these uh situations you hear about things like that. There was a situation called JAL. I can't think of the name. It was a Japanese airline cargo uh back um I'm going to get the whole thing. I haven't looked into that for quite a while, but basically the pilot kept seeing this large thing the size of like

[08:54] a a battleship up in the sky like the shape of a walnut. It was following them and it was on radar and they saw it on ground radar. He ended up getting a desk job after that, you know, but eventually enough people, you know, pulled for him and got him back to flying again. But, you know, you can't it's it's hard when you report these things with someone like him. >> It is. It's hard when you report them. >> Yeah. Yeah. Um, you know, we there's so many things I'd like to talk to you about, but uh, also I do want to just

[09:25] touch on the whistleblowing part that you did uh, at some point here in the conversation. Again, that the the full interview that we did about that is going to be linked at the very end of the show and down I can put it also in the show notes as well. But, um, I want to talk a little bit about drones because that's that's kind of still such a mystery. I mean, I'm I'm still kind of baffled by it and I'm I don't really know what I think about the explanations I keep hearing out there and wondered what you thought about that.

[09:58] You know, at first I I was well, at first I just assumed it was a defense department exercise of some sort. And I have a friend who happens to be a New Jersey state trooper. He said that they were working under the impression that there was a DOE or DoD cargo that went missing, that perhaps it was nuclear, perhaps it was maybe a weapon of some sort or a missile and the

[10:30] convoy, you know, lost the the 18-wheeler. I don't know. He said that's what he thought it was. That's what he had been told it was. But then there was a there was a piece a segment on 60 Minutes just a couple of weeks ago or a week ago maybe where they interviewed uh these uh the the current and the former commanding generals from uh oh it was I think it was Langley

[11:02] actually >> Langley Air Force. >> Right. Yes. And they said that, you know, people think we can just shoot these things down, but they're so small that you can't use a a fighter jet to shoot something that is so small and is guided by hand. So their their conclusions were that they were um hostile uh likely Chinese. Mhm.

[11:34] >> U there happened to be a Chinese ship off the coast of of New Jersey at least for a little while while these things were flying around and he said we we have to come up with a better system to protect ourselves. We can protect ourselves against incoming ICBMs for example. >> Yeah. >> But we can't protect ourselves against drones. >> Right. And but the the thing of it is is that it's worldwide too. That's another real puzzle. >> Yeah.

[12:04] >> You know, and these things are happening like every year around the same time. It was happening as well over the last several years. There was an event in Colorado a few years ago that was baffling to everyone out there. I don't know if you heard about that, >> but um but then there's these really largeiz drones and they're going for >> Yeah. >> You know, uh for extended amounts of time, you know, so it's it's just >> Yeah. It's still
