Title: Podcast UFO Live Shows
Show: Podcast UFO Live Shows
Date: 2026-02-27
URL: https://youtu.be/Dg-Jg2wGFnY
Duration: 10:00

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[00:00] Well, David Gres also spoke to the congressional uh committees. Is that what you're talking about? >> Yes. >> That that is another way to protect yourself. >> Yes. Is you you reach out to the people who were supposed to have oversight authority over this kind of thing. So, if you're not getting any satisfaction or you can't, you know, get people to take you seriously, reach out to the House and Senate uh armed services committees. They'll take you seriously. I think he went through all the steps, the proper steps, but

[00:31] >> Yes, he did. He He went to the inspector general. He went to the general counsel and nobody would listen to him. >> I see. Wow. Yeah. Um, so here's say another question here for you from Tony. In light of what you went through, would you recommend a career in the CIA? >> As crazy as it might sound, I would have to say yes. >> Wow. >> And I'll tell you why. I loved every minute that I was in the

[01:01] CIA. I went to 72 countries. I met with kings and presidents and prime ministers. I did the coolest stuff you could imagine that I have to keep secret until I, you know, am laid in my grave. And one of the things that an old-timer told me that is apppropo of this question is once you get to around the 10-year mark in your career, you're

[01:32] going to realize that you've been promoted into a position of authority, and for a lot of people, their their careers really take off at year 10. There are a lot of things that I don't like about the CIA. are a lot of things I want to see changed. But really, look, I'm a realist. The only way you can change them is from inside. >> And so, keep your moral scruples about you. You know, know right from wrong in your gut when you go in because they're not going to teach you right from wrong.

[02:03] You have to know it yourself >> and have a great career. >> Wow. Wow. That's really something. So I remember I believe that you you watched what you thought was a war crime and you >> Yeah. >> Right away crime. >> Yeah. >> In more ways more ways than the water boarding. And you know how the water boarding, you know, basically works is we're all afraid of drowning. You know, I mean, that's really what it boils down to. >> And in the case of Abu Zuba, they actually did drown him

[02:33] >> and his heart stopped and they had to revive him just so that he could be tortured more. >> Yeah. God, >> it's sick. >> And of course, you know, when torture is not really that good at people will say anything to stop it basically. >> I mean, how effective is torture really? I mean, have they done how >> it's not and that's been that has been conclusively proven by both the American Psychological Association and the American Psychiatric Association. It just simply doesn't work.

[03:06] >> Now, you just mentioned his name. That was someone you knew very well, right? >> The one they revived. How do you say his name again? >> Abu Zabeda. >> Yeah. >> I captured Abu Zabeda. >> And I've gone on record for the last 10 years saying that Abu Zubeda should be released from Guantanamo immediately and allowed to uh to resettle in a third country. We have never charged him with

[03:37] a crime. And in fact, the information that uh that we used to uh to kidnap him and torture him was faulty. He was not the number three in al-Qaeda. In fact, he had never even joined al-Qaeda. So what we thought, you know, was conclusive evidence of his guilt of terrorism was just a lie. >> Just like someone being falsely charged

[04:08] with murder, basically. >> Exactly. >> Wow. That's amazing. >> Yeah. Just like murder. And you know, since 1976, when the death penalty was reinstated by the Supreme Court, more than 200 people who had been on death row have been released because DNA evidence has conclusively proven them to be innocent. >> 200 people >> were scheduled to be executed that were completely innocent. >> It's not acceptable. >> Yeah. Yeah. There's no way to I mean

[04:40] someday we may have that ability to really really know the truth when someone is telling it. I don't even know if that would affect our rights or whatever, but I don't even know you know if that could even work eventually. But uh I want to thank you so much. It's been a real pleasure. Can you please talk a little bit about the YouTube channel you have? >> Oh yeah. Thank you. Uh well I do a couple of different things. I've got um I've got a podcast uh that's on YouTube called Deep Focus with John Kuryaku. I try to interview uh as many relevant

[05:10] news makers as I can and um and I've got a show called CIA Declassified that runs on an online platform called Unified Television. UFYD Unified Television. And what we do is we look at historic events like the overthrow of the Iranian government in 1953, the overthrow of the Chilean government in 73, MK Ultra, UFOs. Um, and we try to use

[05:43] declassified CIA documents to shed light on these on these issues. >> Wow. >> Yeah, it's a fun show. We're we're in season two already and again it's it's called CIA Declassified and it's at Unified Television UN I FYD. >> Wow. Great. Well, I I just have to mention this the release the recent re-release of and I don't think it's that many more documents of the JFK, >> right? >> Uh I just wondered what you thought of

[06:14] that. I know they were unredacted and I know some social security numbers showed up from some living >> and they identified some CIA sources. There were two blockbuster um uh memos that were released in that trunch and there are still several thousand pages that that are due to be released. But the two big things were um uh James Angleton, the deputy director of the CIA for counter intelligence, ordered the CIA in 1963

[06:47] to recruit Lee Harvey Oswald as a source. People have long believed that that was the case. The CIA always denied it. And now we've learned that they've been lying for 62 years. So, this is like it seems like that's a bombshell. >> That is a bombshell. >> There's another bombshell. Uh there was a an army intelligence officer named Underh Hill um who had highlevel CIA friends. These friends, he alleged that

[07:19] these friends told him that they had been responsible for killing Kennedy. In a panic, he got in the car and drove to his mother's house in New Jersey and told her. She later said that he was very upset when he told her he drove back to Washington and then was found dead in his apartment of a gunshot wound. They said they ruled it a suicide, but the gunshot wound was to the back of his head. >> Typically doesn't happen. Uh let's see.

[07:51] >> Oh, >> sorry. Go right ahead. >> Well, there's a question for you, but uh >> yeah, thank you for that. That's that I I'm starting this hundred uh hundred city year-long round the world speaking tour. I've already done speeches in Belfast, Dublin, and Manchester. I'm going back to Scotland and Northern England in a couple of weeks. Um but we're going to be here in the United States and in Canada and then we go to Australia and New Zealand, then

[08:22] continental Europe, the Persian Gulf, and East Asia. You can find information at tigerslanestudio.com. >> John, I'm going to ask you if you would take the time to email me all these links so I can put them in the show notes for everybody to see. >> I sure will. >> And again, for everyone that's uh watching right now, this YouTube um at the very end you'll see the video pop up and that will be the interview that you and I did back in 2007. >> Oh, terrific.

[08:53] >> Yeah. Well, it's been a real pleasure, John, as always. It's always uh great to talk to you and I again I I think you're a hero for doing what you did. I think um it needed to be done and you know because who knows where how carried away that could have gotten. >> Yeah, thank you. >> And uh sorry you had to suffer for it, but uh I'm glad you're doing well now. >> Thanks so much. It's good to see you again. It's been a long time. All right. So, everyone, next week I'm going to be

[09:23] in I will be uh in California leaving tomorrow and going to be at the conference and also our show on next Tuesday is with Professor Ted Peters and he is a professor who speaks on the UFO topic and summer courses at Berkeley. So, thanks everyone and remember to keep your eyes to the sky. Heat. [Music]

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