Title: If Gina Haspel Is Confirmed at CIA, the U.S. Would Be Giving
Show: Democracy Now!
Date: 2018-05-11
URL: https://youtu.be/MeMlE3ppJrs
Duration: 2.8:00

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[00:00] the issue of Jena Haspel to be head of the CIA you have written a number of books and specifically your book time and the shadows is about torture your thought yes it on what she has done you specifically look at black sites I I do specifically look at black sites I and that is incredibly harrowing what is very devastating about what this what her nomination has done is is to essentially rubber stamp the the use of

[00:31] completely and utterly brutal and harrowing modalities of torture on people whether or not they're guilty there's never a sort of a legal process that will allow us to adjudicate whether these people are in any way culpable of anything and in fact loads of innocent people have been subjected to these black sites now what is ironic of course is that Gina has balls confirmation hearing what's happening on exactly the same day that the British government was apologizing was issuing an official apology to abdel hakim bell hodge and

[01:02] his wife apartment wood char and my boots char had been four months pregnant sorry she'd been several months pregnant but for four months she had been held in thailand presumably under the reign of gina hospital while she ran the thai black sites there now what her confirmation should it proceed is going to signal is that all of those countries in the world that acted as black sites a number of those countries that are members of NATO and eastern their Eastern European states members of NATO

[01:33] but which are also members of the you had the wrist slapped by the Ewing among them most specifically Poland and Romania but those that are not part of the EU and were engaged in these kinds of and and they allowed their territories to be used as black sites Thailand foremost among them but there were others as well as those countries that acted as countries of extraordinary rendition for example Jordan Morocco Egypt and in fact Syria even all of

[02:03] these countries are essentially going to see this as a carte blanche for conducting torture not that they ever really needed it but essentially I mean one of the things that one hears all the time in the Middle East is well if the US is doing it why does anybody care about why Cece would do it and so I think that in some ways it would be an utter travesty although completely unsurprising if Jeana Hospital has chosen to head the CIA now luckily Lee we want to thank you for being with us professor it's so as University of London author a number of books including time in the shadows confinement and counterinsurgencies we

[02:36] ask you to stay with us
