Title: EXCLUSIVE! MUST SEE LIVE INTERVIEW WITH LEGENDARY CIA WH
Show: Will Turbitt
Date: 2022-04-09
URL: https://youtu.be/CwegyuWY758
Duration: 1:35:00

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[00:05] what is going on folks will turbine here fake mic new mic real news last joint i smashed it way too hard and just you know what all my mics have in common let me stop mrs jay's in the house oh boy

[00:35] short bus beep beep is in the house guys i need you if you're joining me right now to share this video i will be joined momentarily by award-winning author journalist and whistleblower the man that inspired edward snowden john kiriakou we got freedom for all in the house trevor thank you very much for your comments al carol what up guys i need you really to share

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[01:37] much appreciated uh yeah and i will say live and direct on the air please share this and find auditing america like share and subscribe auditing america live and direct on the air fake mic real news thank you trevor that's what we want to do here is so if you're just joining john kiriakou.com is website we'll put it up on screen and some other links it's it's over here in the description as long as well as my cash app uh dollar sign fake mic real

[02:07] news on cash app i'm on twitter fake micro news i'm on instagram fake mike real news the flagship fakemikerealnews.com new updates on the way oh yeah cali life in the house don't have to ask cali likes to share shea welcome to the stream andrew good to see you as always please please please please please please share this video it's going to be a big one that's what she said it's going to be awesome and i have some it uh questions as i always do here for

[02:39] for john but i also would like you guys to start concocting some of your own questions too um so i've got a bunch of questions here john will be joining us momentarily we put up this website on the screen and where you guys two been in from right now who do we got here who's here where are you from what's your screen name mean uh and yes please please please we only have 18 watching now uh let's please get those numbers up

[03:10] i want as many eyeballs on this if you have your own youtube channel share with the community tab share it on facebook thank you cali life very much appreciated let's get as many people as i said joel welcome mina soda you're from minnesota all right so we have two people on the show we have one john kiriakou who was presented the 2016 sam adams award for integrity and then you got me all right ohio's in the house

[03:42] canada shout outs to blackface trudeau racist trudeau is that that that but damn face the weird face he makes yeah so i told john 4 30 gave him the link he should be here i've already talked to him behind the scenes boston medal in the house welcome to the stream guys i really need you to share this one this is going to be a big boy live and direct on the ears in the house and we're going to have john kiriakou

[04:12] popping in any moment to rock with us so get your questions ready uh eric thank you i i thought she was in new york eric oh yeah not even just the way treated truckers gypsy auditor where you been where you been boy good time long time how you been what's new gypsy auditor oh mateo we always bring that heat today today today we got bigger heat than usual this is why i'm begging you guys to share the video because

[04:43] not to brag but i get some good damn interviews i'll get some great freaking interviews i've got legendary interviews oh good question joe you know i don't know i mean there could be an emp at any moment from the sun itself or there could be an emp attack we have not hardened that grid so royce joe cool what up joe cool man yeah he'll join us soon we've had him many times on this channel we've went

[05:14] and met with him in dc a couple times last video we did from in his house um was epic oh you know world economic forum i'm glad you said that thank you trevor great uh actually i'm glad you brought that up i'm going to talk about that too he's also an expert on pakistan uh he's an expert on the middle east he's an expert on pretty much intelligence ethics transparency

[05:44] all this stuff good good point about to bring up the wef there so yeah i wanna today we're gonna talk about uh let's talk about assange we're gonna talk about what's going on ukraine you know i think he will get his way if we don't non-violently stand against him uh for sure we're going to talk about the new supreme court justice too thanks frank rice

[06:21] and we're going to be talking about like what where he what he wants to talk about but also where he sees this world that we're in are we getting better are we getting worse um yeah the laptop issues too you know that's a good that's good this is why i'm opening up for you guys right because there's so much out there and i just can't keep it all on my uh in my head a laptop there's so many laptops out there right there's uh quite a few laptops out there

[06:52] i'd like to get the truth on one of them you know joe you're asking questions and they're really good questions i'm not qualified to answer those save those for uh for john when he joins us in a moment or two because i'm i'm not qualified to answer those you know i'll be honest with you guys i've been someone that's been awake to what's what's going on for quite a long time and during the bush and obama years i could probably give you a much better sense of where

[07:22] things were going where they were headed and a better sense of like discernment about you know what was really what's really going on what's really happening right and i feel like over the last few years uh i don't know and that supreme court justice i don't know if anybody knows this oh and i have some questions while john's joining about to join us i did you guys did leave some comments yesterday and i want to address some of those comment comments because uh there's some

[07:52] uh great great stuff joe i know i didn't wake you up so how'd you come to my information but if i did i mean that's awesome i i mean now that that's gonna make my whole birthday right there but um so let's let's go to some of these comments i would love to i mean that's honestly the sexiest thing anybody well joe i mean if that's the truth man i mean that's exactly why i do this and that's awesome that so now your job is to inform other people that's just our job right um

[08:24] yep we're getting some uh some comments this one uh from kristen saying rest in peace to jordan maxwell uh climate coin digital currencies i'm gonna skip that one for now because that's a big talk um shout out to johnny truth butch brady asks what happened to egg salad island uh good question i'm still there

[08:56] apparently it was rated but the new york city the new york city uh apartment you know there's videos from that and there's pictures and we didn't receive much here if anything from that and i'm not exactly sure what's going on with that property if his brother owns it or not does west palm beach mansion was raised to the ground but most people forget about another

[09:28] property that he had and that was in new mexico he had a ranch in new mexico humongous ranch and he and there he was talking about doing like like seeing the world with his his sperm and doing all types of weird uh eugenics so uh and then joe thank you uh you also asked about you also asked about what happened in boston i actually had court

[10:00] for that yesterday morning um and we do have our guests he's on the phone so we're going to bring him there bring him on along in just a moment here so uh yes that is that is the process i'm still working towards that same thing with what happened in providence same thing about when i got locked in the vault there too so uh yeah i appreciate you checking up on that but cody english welcome mike gemacher welcome ah the smoking auditor huh i thought i

[10:30] held that claim and apparently another channel was doing uh doing some feedback on what we got going on here too we're live give you a heads up okay we're live so i won't swear no you you can i like i swear great well it's interesting john

[11:00] and i'll just say this and i want to let you start off talking about what you want to talk about because i always come prepared with tons of questions and i would also if you have time like to open it up to uh some of the viewers watching right now yeah yeah be glad to do that thank you and if you guys are just joining right now please share this video uh john's website john kiriakou.com is in the links here please go over there open that up in another tab support john uh purchase his his books and if you don't have the money to do that that's fine but at least share his website share

[11:31] this video and and let people know what's going on but yeah it's interesting john because it's weird right because i've i've interviewed you i've been i've had the honor to interview you a number of times and again thank you for making time i mean you're you're somebody's historic international renown and yet you've made time for me and i really appreciate that very pleased to do it will well and and so it's like weird because with this this new we'll get into this a little deeper we can start with this too

[12:02] but we are living in this weird world of having all this free information and then yet censorship coexisting simultaneously and we've done a number of interviews together and yep they were usually fine the last one i uploaded it got taken down and and they never really tell us why they'll say it violated community guidelines and quite frankly you didn't say anything crazy i didn't say anything i've been toning it down a lot and then i pop on

[12:34] a peacock streaming service and you're talking about gillane maxwell on netflix so the stuff that we've covered here for a long time it gets deleted on my channel but somehow you're you're still out there and asking same thing with uh with joseph scott morgan america's number one death investigator he can be on cnn and fox and stuff like that but they it's it's so it's weird how this happened so and that's why i want to stress the importance of of these conversations that we have uh too because you know it's yes mr j

[13:06] share share share uh but it's just interesting how how some of this works the first channel was taken down because i don't know why right uh they didn't have nuts they didn't exactly tell me why so we've been we've been using code words and and doing certain things to try to uh to try to stay afloat because honestly it's you have to self-center yourself in a certain way because otherwise you're not gonna you're gonna you're gonna reach certain people but if you have any comments and then you know what's on what's on your mind john because we we haven't connected in a while um and what's important what's

[13:38] been going on with you wow well thanks first uh for giving me the the opportunity um to start this off to tell you the truth uh censorship is at the very front of my mind and for kind of a selfish reason uh as as you know when i got out of uh of prison after you know spending 23 months there for blowing the whistle on the cia's torture program uh nobody was beating a path to my door to offer me work and uh

[14:09] i got an offer from sputnik news the the russian uh radio news network and they offered me my own show i turned it down about seven months later they called me back and said we'd really like to offer you this show and uh and i said well listen you know if i'm gonna work for you guys i need the freedom to be able to talk about literally anything i want to talk about i want to be able to criticize anybody i want to criticize including vladimir putin

[14:40] without missing a beat the general manager says done i said yeah you willing to put that in writing and he said absolutely i said all right if you put that in my contract i'll take the uh i'll take the job and they put it in my contract and so i've been at sputnik now it's gonna be five years in august um it's the best health insurance i've ever had in my life which i'll i'll let

[15:11] you you know analyze that even the cia way better than what i had at the cia it's crazy i don't pay for anything uh but i i am allowed not allowed it's i i do criticize anybody anything i want to today i started off my show by saying that we really needed to discuss what the media is reporting today about what appears to be a major war crime committed by the russian military

[15:42] against a civilian train they killed five dozen people they they wounded hundreds and i would say the same thing if the u.s air force had bombed this train you know i would say the same thing if the u.s army had crossed an international border to seize uh territory so i mean they've been so good to me now with that aside the justice department the treasury

[16:12] department the fbi have been on sputnik nrt russia today the television or our sister network like white on rice and the idea was to shut us down now they were successful in shutting down rt not just here in the united states but in every country of the european union for whatever reason probably because nobody listens to us for the most part uh

[16:43] we have survived so we're on terrestrial radio on am and fm here in washington and on a little teeny tiny station in kansas city and that's it we've been thrown off of youtube spreaker spotify itunes iheartradio tune in everybody's threw us off so we went from between 35 and 38 000 listeners a day to about 250. oh my god

[17:14] yeah and that's and anybody for all any reason can see why that would be problematic because then some bad dictator and you name the continent they do something bad then all this information is gone and then the only people have left and again i'm no fan of of putin either he's my opinion he hates free speech he's a war criminal and a tyrant uh and i would consider him a dictator myself especially i would consider him a dictator uh but then it's also problematic when you

[17:46] only have the western media who have covered up for jeffrey egg salad uh lied about weapons of mass destruction they're they're commenting on a pandemic when they're getting their money from big pharma and then they're commenting on geopolitics when they're getting their money from the military industrial complex exactly and so and this is the really weird thing about this you know i was watching the brand new uh jimmy savile documentary on netflix too oh right and you know it's it's

[18:16] interesting because and i watched you on the lane maxwell one i've watched i've watched bare minimum 30 000 documentaries in my day that's what i do i watch documentaries i watch the history channel on double speed i watch every history i watch all the underground stuff too you know what i'm saying audiobooks usually it's it's tough to get to a new book nowadays and what you've seen happen i i can't tell you how many people that i know that have been taken off of social media and then you've got the

[18:46] different social medias kind of springing up but none of them really take off but one of the things that they said was with this jimmy savile cases you know jimmy savile had some at least some of the police in his pocket so investigations were turned down that way he was on the media so investigations were turned down that way how it really started coming out was the internet because there were no gatekeepers these gatekeepers coming out and

[19:17] they're they're really there youtube is nothing like it used to be oh no and neither is twitter neither is facebook where do you go for free speech i i'll tell you there's a new there's a new platform it's just getting started they actually just kicked off yesterday called pan quake tell people about that because i i was i was taking a look into that and i think it's pretty interesting pan quake is absolutely fascinating it's it bills itself as a as a competitor of twitter but the code is totally open anybody can see it

[19:48] it is hosted in iceland uh and if if the environment is your thing it's it's not just hosted in iceland but they use only geothermal energy to power the servers which is awesome and um and uh it's it's owned by you know the the people who built it uh there is no advertising utterly totally completely free speech

[20:18] they don't take one single cent from corporations the military-industrial uh people the the government uh think tanks nothing zero nothing so i um i signed up the other day a couple of days ago for the beta i like it a lot i'm getting a lot out of it they're adding people every day blockchain-based technology too yes it's blockchain-based technology that's the most important uh

[20:49] aspect too is because with some of these non-blockchain things they can just shut your servers off you know if they don't like you and that's and they can still do that but being on the blockchain makes it a lot more helpful for for the users as well too and it's it's called pan quake p-a-n-q-u-a-k-e dot com i'm gonna put it in the chat here and you know and having said that you know what do you think at least for the future of this fight for freedom of speech too and then you guys everyone

[21:21] here knows uh i'm not left i'm not right but it's it's almost like trump and i know because i deal with people from the left and the right all day every day as we all do there's a lot of leftists that will say free speech well you're a nazi you're literally a nazi if you're fighting for these people i get that all the time yeah and it's so ridiculous too because that's you couldn't be anything further from a nazi and last i checked nobody here or in the chat uh has said let alone said anything anti-semitic uh or you know

[21:53] massacred six million jews which is which is really upsetting but so we have we have the gatekeepers and now like freedom of speech is almost like you're racist where is this battle going i mean how successful do you think some of these other platforms trump himself and i also think he's a tyrant uh a war criminal too i mean where do you see this fight for for free speech going because especially in i forget who said it but they said uh the first casualty of of a war is the truth and now we're

[22:24] going into a war error so you know where do you see free speech in the next few years no i don't think that that we know yet uh when when we were banned by all these different platforms pretty much every platform we were forced to go to rumble well when rumble first started what six eight months ago ten months ago whatever it was i i i laughed because i thought oh it's going to be another one of these fascist you know places window chamber yeah trump echo chamber where you can go and spew your

[22:56] hatred and and that's not it at all they're the only place where we can go and talk about our issues and not be censored so i think we've gotten ourselves to this to this weird place where we're reliant on people like steve bannon and donald trump to ensure our freedom of speech as crazy as that sounds yeah and yeah i'm just going to say this because there's there's still people up there showing up

[23:26] in dealey plaza waiting for jfk to go back but i love that i mean anybody that doesn't know i've picked apart everything that trump has has done um but also steve bannon people don't realize that not only was he friends with epstein after he got caught doing what he was doing but he also accorded some reports ran propaganda for him as late and was meeting with this guy as late as 2019 and these are the people that they they're running the truth that's the alternative because the mate don't get me wrong i'm no fan of the mainstream as

[23:57] we've just pointed out now that the the other side is is just super weird yeah and you know i wanted to talk to you too because you were in in the lane maxwell documentary is that something that they approached you because you know that's not exactly the type of thing that you're i mean you have talked about this type of stuff but that's not something that you're completely like that's not your forte no it's not my forte they they called me this producer called me and said hi i'm a producer with nbc and we're doing this

[24:28] uh this documentary for this new network it's going to be called peacock it's going to stream in june and i said okay thinking they want to talk about torture they want to talk about guantanamo all the usual stuff and um and she said no we we want you to talk about gallane maxwell and i said gallane maxwell i said what do i know about galaine maxwell i i mean i i literally know nothing about colleen maxwell other than what i've read in the media right and she said well that might be

[25:00] true but you're extensively published on the issue of pedophilia and i said ah that i am almost by accident it's funny because i'm just i'm like and you know jesse ventura says you're a very sweet guy and he's in the huh and you know from from every interaction i've had with you and just the humbleness of you allowing yourself to be on my show you seem like a really nice guy

[25:31] with pedophilia and torture yeah it's kind of a weird juxtaposition what is that like it's yeah it's it's weird um you know well honestly i have to embrace it right look this is the life i've been given and so i i'm gonna embrace it and i i like to think that i can help people out there that i can help you know do the right thing and stand up for the the underprivileged and those who can't protect themselves and freedom of speech

[26:03] and you know whatever i can do to make the world a better place i i'm 57 years old i'm almost 58 and i've already accepted the fact that i'm not going to make any money so if i'm not going to make any money i should at least try to do the right thing in life so that's what i'm doing you know the the thing is you get to you get to be my age and you know late middle age i guess i could call myself and i've got five kids and i i want my kids to be proud of me so this is that span of years where i'm gonna try to lay out my legacy and you know

[26:35] hope for the best well good and i ap and that's what everybody should do too you know i mean we we work these jobs and a lot of these jobs could give a damn uh if we're there or not there tomorrow and it's it's the things that you do outside of your work that truly in my opinion define who you are um but staying on this topic too you got this uh the lane situation which which you were featured in the peacock documentary uh you know epstein then you have john luke burnell who also in my opinion didn't kill himself in prison

[27:06] and then you got the the jimmy savile uh documentary too which i think kind of was uh i think a lot of them are like white washes or even limited hangouts or not they're not going to go into the to the depths or depravity of all this stuff but do you think that these are because one of the things that you find whether it's in epstein or gillane or john luke burnell or savville or nexium or the john of god cultures you see this overlap with politicians on

[27:37] the left and the right and celebrities and stuff like that is this something that is unique to people of power is this an intelligence operation are they it's not unique to people of power uh it it's to me it's a mental illness that afflicts people of all socioeconomic strata uh you know i never i never encountered a pedophile in my life until the day i went to prison

[28:08] and um one of the things that i i realized was that these that these people live among us and most of the time we don't have any idea that they're living among us uh they are utterly unrepentant they can't be cured there's no cure for a for a pedophile um 100 of them were molested as children

[28:41] which was fascinating to me yeah uh but you know i had a couple of experiences with them when i was in prison that just had me shaking my head before before i went to prison i was an adjunct professor at a university in virginia and i was still in touch with all my former colleagues there and one of them was the dean of the uh of the medical school and she happened to be a psychiatrist so i wrote her a letter and i said listen i need some advice i'm i'm encountering all these people in here

[29:12] who are imprisoned for uh child sex crimes and i don't know how to deal with them but one of the things that i'm realizing is that they don't think they did anything at all wrong and they're just completely unrepentant and she said oh yeah and she said there is no cure for pedophilia you know they'll put them in therapy they'll they'll do talk therapy they put them on antidepressants but there's no cure

[29:42] and she said one thing to be aware of is they love to talk about their crimes which i also realized early on they love to talk about their crimes because they get sexual gratification from reliving what they did well i worked when i was in prison i worked in the chapel i ran the chapel library and only the chapel and the library are the only two safe spaces for pedophiles in prison if if pedophiles go out to the

[30:14] prison yard they're going to get a beating uh they're not allowed to remain in their cells because the other guys in the cells will give them a beating they're not allowed to watch tv in the day room because they'll get a beating so the only places where they're safe are the chapel and the library well we had a uh a rule in the chapel that you don't talk about your case the chapel is a place of prayer and reflection and quiet and study

[30:44] keep your mouth shut so what do you think all the pedophiles do they're all talking about their cases and finally there was this one who he was six foot seven great big former firefighter we used to call him chomo the giant with lord chomo being jail slang for child molester and i went out there and i said hey stop talking about your case and he gets angry and he looks at me

[31:14] like this like indignantly and he says jesus loved the little children and i said to the chaplain i said chaplin this guy's got to go you got to do something otherwise somebody's going to heat up some olive oil in the microwave and put it on his head right which actually happened while i was there so um they threw him out told him not to come back uh on on my very first day in prison uh i was assigned to wipe down some tables so i'm wiping down the table this

[31:47] other guy's wiping down a table and he said to me are you new here and i said yeah it's my first day and he said how long you in for i said uh 30 months feels like 30 years how about you and he said uh oh i'm here for 27 years i said 27 years do you mind if i ask you what you did and he said yeah i got i got caught looking at crime scene photos i said what's that supposed to mean

[32:18] and he said well having sex with children is a crime i got caught looking at the photos and i looked at the guy like what are you nuts and then he says what really did me in was that subfolder i said all right i'll bite what was in the subfolder and he says really excited he gets excited he goes well i like to masturbate when i look at pictures of dead children and i have a friend who works at the morgue and i said stop oh my god i said don't ever

[32:48] speak to me again do you understand and he goes really and i said don't ever [ __ ] speak to me again and that was the last word i exchanged with the guy but our prisons are full of people like this will they're full and the problem is because there's no treatment that they do their time and they go straight back out and guess what they end up doing there was a guy worked as a janitor in the chapel his name was cook he was kind of your typical old man pervert right so he was in his

[33:20] early 60s i guess maybe 65 years old he had done five years for child molestation crossing a state line to molest a child he did his five years he got out he did it again they gave him 10 years and then i met him right at the very end of his 10 years when we were both working at the chapel and he was released again six months later i'm getting ready to leave and here i see cook in the hall

[33:53] he's walking toward me i said cook what are you doing here and he goes he's from the mountains of north carolina he goes well i got me a problem i said you [ __ ] did it again didn't you he goes well you know i just like him young i said yeah but cook your problem is young means like seven i said how much time did you get this time he goes well they had done give me 30 this time

[34:24] like well good luck and i said cook listen no offense but society is better off with you in here for the rest of your life yeah you know and i'm i kind of i i i honestly think any extended prison term let alone uh solitary confinement is cruel and unusual yeah honestly even with long long prison terms for the bushes or the clintons i don't i i don't know what should happen to certain people sure

[34:54] but yeah that people like that definitely shouldn't be allowed to be around the general population in any way and now the thing that i wanted to ask you here is so it is surprising how many of these people then that's something i found out on my journey too how how prevalent it is uh i i've many times on this channel and others i'll just i'll go on grindr and then within within minutes i have people all over wanting to meet me up sending me the most disgusting things and i say hey i'm

[35:25] a 13 year old boy right that's what it says lately on my on my profile is this something that is obviously it's it's going on in in the general population as well but is it something when it comes to you know epstein was an fbi informant which i think probably was hard at least at least yeah so that's that's what i'm getting at here is it is it this blackmail operation to to have these people's

[35:56] proclivities you know kind of and we got you got the evidence there so you can do something is it is it like hey here's a here's a girl you you're at a party with the senators and you know there's drugs and hey here's this girl you think she's 18 but she's really she's 16 and then and then they whittle you away um or is it something that's more like hey we're the elite we can we can do what we want to do i mean we have so much of it yeah do like the pentagon was it 5200 uh pieces of cp you see it over and

[36:28] over and over again here it is specifically with the the epstein gillane the the jimmy savile the upper echelon is that something that you're doing as a form of control with the elite it's it's certainly it's certainly possible uh everything you said just now is 100 plausible 100 with with epstein it was i think more complicated than that because

[36:59] to me that whole case was a classic intelligence operation a foreign intelligence agency yeah any intelligence agency wants to uh recruit people who are going to work their way to the top of a government right well here in the united states a foreign government's not going to recruit a president right but you can recruit somebody close to a president and jeffrey epstein was close to a whole

[37:29] bunch of presidents so and not just presidents but but princes and titans of industry and banking and commerce and and you know [Music] some of the most important and some of the wealthiest people in the world well if you want to collect insider information man that's that's the way to do it now on top of that he had a problem a problem that is illegal in the united states and just about every other country on the face of the earth and so

[38:01] the fbi let's say perhaps the mossad and who who knows you know what other organizations can take advantage of that by hanging the prospect of blackmail over the top of his head so yeah i i think that it was for for him it was this perfect storm where he had information that the fbi would have wanted he had information that the israelis would have wanted and he had weaknesses that they knew they could exploit

[38:33] and so i mean my just general theory is just because you know i want to talk about a little bit of true crime later with you too because i i find out you might be a little bit interested in that uh which is cool because over the last couple years i've been more interested in that when i found out some some interesting things uh totally lost my train of thought where i was saying right there but on the same topic with uh with greece this is like a side thing right i've been hearing that certain people have went to greece because it's not a crime over there or

[39:03] or in greece it is okay yeah in greece it is in fact uh they did a sting operation in the northern city of thessaloniki a couple of months ago and they got 27 people about half of them were were foreign nationals okay and so i guess well the last thing on this little topic here we can slide something else is we've had uh we got anthony weiner's laptop we got the hard drives from um a pizza shop in dc which i know for a fact were reported

[39:35] to members of uh of dc uh mpd and we have the emails and the recorded phone conversations uh a few of them quite a few of them um and then the next day or the next week edgar madison who else goes in there and shoots this one thing and then you also have hunter biden's laptop what's going on with these laptops do you think hunter i mean anthony weiner we can already pretty much forget about that one uh what as far as hunter biden's laptop i

[40:05] mean i saw one of the videos that was purported to be from that laptop just because i wanted to see from my own eyes if some of the things they were claiming were true now of course i understand that you can do anything uh with the magic of hollywood and visual effects deep deep fakes and all that yeah and so i look like i mean he admitted to smoking parmesan cheese we know that you know but there were some other even less savory things going on there um what

[40:37] what do you think is going on with the laptop also ashley biden's diary that's a pretty intriguing thing to me too and it's weird because it's now the doj under a bomb i mean uh pardon me biden or still obama according to obama the other day [Music] do you see this having any gravity taking off at all and i mean did you see any of the stuff reported in the laptop in the diary because there's some very disturbing allegations if

[41:09] these are in fact valid pieces of of evidence um i didn't see anything related to child sex abuse i i will say that you know psychologists need to look at this biden family because hunter is hunter's got serious problems you know we've all seen the pictures of him passed out with a crack pipe hanging out of his mouth the new york post had a picture yesterday it was it was him taking a

[41:40] selfie to show his ass for some reason i have no idea why he would take a picture like that and then and then this diary this this diary was apparently from the year that that biden's daughter was recovering from her own heroin addiction you know this is a guy who ran for president three times was in the senate for for five terms was vice president for eight years my god man take care of your children what's wrong with you what kind of family was that that everybody's a

[42:12] heroin addict and can you imagine if this was trump or obama and i don't like either of them or either bush or any any other president before yeah cleared how he's getting this tax crucified yes he's getting a pass and another thing too and this bothers me very much when the um the laptop was first uh made public right and the new york post wrote that now in infamous story saying that there's this laptop it belonged to hunter hunter biden it was

[42:43] taken for repair because it was fake news and they completely censored it exactly but even worse than that not only did twitter and facebook take it down saying that it was fake news but 51 retired executive level cia officers wrote a an open letter that was published in the washington post in the new york times saying that this was a classic kgb intelligence operation that the laptop never belonged to hunter

[43:13] biden that the russians planted it they planted all this information on it and because they have combined they have 2 000 years of of experience working against the russians blah blah blah they were wrong every last one of them all 51 of them were wrong this was hunter biden's laptop it was hunter biden's responsibility it was hunter biden confessing to all the crazy crap that he had done and they probably were able to retrieve documents

[43:46] proving at the very least that he never registered as a foreign agent for the ukrainians and the chinese and at the most that he evaded uh federal income taxes so you know we can't believe anything that the mainstream media tells us we just can't they're not reliable actually gaining traction and if so why i mean it seems like it's i mean even cnn's like well actually the laptop is real so that tells me that it actually might be getting subtraction well you know what on saturday there was a um there was a conference in chicago

[44:18] about uh fake news and it was all these big important people brian stelter from from cnn and and what's his face that ran the uh obama campaign uh axelrod david axelrod and this woman from the atlantic monthly and one of the students at the at the conference uh got up and and asked about the laptop story like why did you guys not publish anything about the laptop and interestingly the the response was

[44:49] not because we thought it was fake we didn't think it was important enough to publish that was the response so so the the son of the president who already has these these ties to ukraine and china which is jeopardizing the security of our entire nation smoking crack on video yeah how that would be a problem of compromising the the jeopardy of ours right let alone the some of the images and video that i saw uh

[45:21] which were pretty pretty gross to say the least and and it's now these people john and and you've you've met with a lot more higher up and important people than i have in in in the media or and or in politics how many of these people are willful actors and how many of these people are are like is brought bro because to me to say that it's not important that

[45:53] that's just a lie are you are these people justifying it to themselves after the fact yeah okay yeah a lot of them are justified a lot of them you know i found this to be true all over washington for the most part these people when they're confronted by problems like this they just hope that it goes away they hope that it blows over you know washington has this 24-hour news cycle if they just ignore it it'll go away but you know will they teach you in in business school that hope is not a strategy

[46:24] if something is true if it's real you know it's true you have to deal with it you can't just cross your fingers and hope that it goes away because it doesn't it ends up just getting worse and worse and worse and and now you've got joe biden last weekend saying i don't think uh hunter committed any crimes well guess what you [ __ ] the president united states is not allowed to comment on an ongoing case so you just buy us the case now how are we supposed to conclude

[46:56] that somebody who six months from now might you know be a juror in this case thinks oh well you know what six months ago the president said there was probably nothing to this and i like him so i'm gonna have to vote not guilty you can't say stuff like that just i mean he admitted that he smoked crack how many countless uh people that are predominantly minority and the lowest of the socioeconomic wrong right now for an uh uh victimless crime are in

[47:29] jail right now exactly crack that's a crime exactly while the cia brought in the crack cocaine yes 1980s for that very reason so it's just absolutely hypocritical and absurd and that's one of the things that i've noticed starting to occur in since the age of trump and biden uh and the the events of the pandemic and you know all the stuff that's been going on is literally on both sides of the aisle i mean i could sit here for four days and give uh examples but

[47:59] the the left will believe something and then they'll be exposed for their ironic hypocrisy and then the right thing too one thing will be right and we believe this and the next day they'll believe the completely opposite thing so there's this mass uh this mass psychological warfare but it's weird because it's like things are changing so so quickly i mean is it something like i forget the the psychological term i think i forget who used it uh whether it was stalin or or

[48:30] go or goggles but to just overload people with information so that we don't know what's going on we can't make we can't make our mind up up with this because to me during at least the bush and obama era there was like you could see where stuff was going whether you liked it or not and now it's like you don't things can change on women you're listening things that just don't make any sense whatsoever do you think there's a reason behind that um and then also following up on that how much is uh

[49:00] from your experience the cia involved in helping make culture a part of the media like how much oh yeah let me let me answer that question first uh the answer is very much the cia is very involved even though the cia is not supposed to have anything whatsoever to do with domestic politics domestic issues they're not allowed to legally operate uh in the united states they they do anyway you know there's a

[49:32] there's a a branch inside the cia's office of public affairs whose job it is solely to liaise with hollywood studios so that every time a tv series is made a documentary is made a movie is made the message is pro cia that's why we end up with you know argo winning best actor and nominated for best picture we end up with zero dark 30 which is the worst offender in my view perpetuating this

[50:04] lie that torture led to the location of osama bin laden right so this is this is what they do you never see you never see anything coming out of hollywood where the cia is the bad guy except for something like kill the messenger for example which talked about gary webb and how the cia was was smuggling cocaine into the united states i'm proud to say i was the script consultant on that movie um but otherwise they just perpetuate this this lie and it just goes for years and

[50:35] years and takes on a life of its own the fbi has been doing that since the 1940s right time was even into the 1970s the early 70s where you couldn't even make a show or a movie about the fbi without j edgar hoover saying that it was okay and so that's why literally everything that came out of hollywood relative to the fbi was positive everything well the cia does the same thing now you know they they invite catherine

[51:07] bigelow and mark bowle the the director producer and the writer of zero dark 30 to come to the cia to get a series of classified briefings which is a violation of the espionage act over a classified mock-up of the bin laden compound and then after they get their classified briefings they provide gifts watches tickets to the premier airline tickets to the analysts that gave them the classified briefings again

[51:37] a violation of the espionage act and then they were invited to a speech by the director in the cia auditorium in which he accidentally revealed the true name of the navy seal that killed osama bin laden and then everybody's like ah you know what that was just an accident he didn't have any criminal intent so nobody's going to get charged with anything well that's [ __ ] either you've violated the espionage act

[52:10] or you haven't and they did and they got away with it of course and that's you know it's another huge uh glaring win for censorship when in order to to make a piece of of art you have to be approved by the cia and the fbi and you know we were just talking about ukraine and china and the president's son and some possible uh compromise there uh what's going on with with russia and

[52:42] ukraine honestly the way the news has been the last 20 so years i figured hey something's coming up in ukraine all right israel palestine uh and then the first day everyone's like it's world war three and then like something might happen we might we might fire a couple rockets in syria but by the next day or that everything stopped but this is this is continuing on what's going on here and how long do you see it continuing for yeah this is bad you know mark milly the chairman of the joint chiefs of staff

[53:14] said on tuesday that he could see this going for ten years um one of my colleagues at sputnik garland nixon said he thinks it will be wrapped up in a couple of weeks um you know i i could see this dragging on for a year or two years uh only because only because the russians know exactly what they want they want luhansk and donetsk and crimea uh the ukrainians are unwilling to just concede

[53:46] it they want the russians out of their country and the russians should get the hell out of of ukraine but i think in the end whether it's fair or not and we can have that separate conversation i think that the russians are going to end up with with donetsk and luhansk and crimea there'll be independent republics under russian jurisdiction or whatever i think that it'll eventually be acceptable to the ukrainians so long as they continue to have access to the sea

[54:18] at odessa the problem is that so many civilians are getting killed already and the one thing that the that the ukrainians have going for them is uh the fact that they're they're willing to fight to the death for their for their country now the problem with ukrainians is these acts these accusations of of nazi involvement in the in the ukrainian government are legitimate there are nazis you know there was a big kerfuffle yesterday

[54:49] where uh president zielenski addressed the greek parliament by video and then a member of the azov battalion addressed the greek parliament afterwards and almost all the parliament got up and walked out you know i said on my own show today what what many people don't know is that greece on a per capita basis lost more people to the nazis in the second world war than any other country in the world

[55:21] and nazism and the effects of nazism are still raw in greece we all every one of us had family members killed by the nazis my dad's favorite cousin he just died a couple of weeks ago um was was pulling water out of his own well on our ancestral island and then this nazi soldier said what are you doing he said i'm drawing water from the well the guy said that's a german well and shot him in the stomach and he until the day died he had a scar

[55:51] from the bullet hole in the stomach so you know we all suffered under the under the nazis in greece they wiped out the greek jewish community just wiped it out um and then you have a nazi addressing the greek parliament to say help us fight the russians you know it's like what are they thinking they're not thinking so that i think is going to start weighing on on western governments we're you know we're giving them javelins and we're giving them stingers and we're

[56:23] going to give them these old abrams tanks and and we're giving them you know maybe giving them planes and all different kinds of stuff but people are going to get tired of of being credibly accused of supplying weapons and material to nazis my own personal opinion is whether they like it or not they're going to have to sit across the table from one another and come up with something whether it means you know giving up land or never joining nato or whatever they're going to have to figure

[56:53] something out because this thing can't go much longer yeah i think you know i'm no expert at anything but i think obviously the longer the longer it goes on the the more likely it will be that other people get involved uh because once you know you've seen in a lot of other wars once you know american passengers and lusitania or whatever it is if they could take one thing and it'd just be outrage and any any country could end up

[57:26] uh jumping in there which is which is kind of scary so yeah i'm hoping that this wraps up quite i'm pretty surprised that it's that it's gone on this long me too actually uh but now keeping uh with international affairs you're definitely i'm not an expert on nothing but you're definitely an expert among other things on pakistan um and we've seen the prime minister i believe he dissolved parliament there the other day yeah he did you tried what's going on in pakistan that would

[57:58] be dope the the pakistani supreme court today ruled that his dissolution of parliament was illegal and so they reversed the decision so the recall vote will be held probably tomorrow and he's going to be thrown out of office you know it's it's kind of funny to me uh will this whole situation in pakistan because here you've got this prime minister imran khan who was a a major hero in pakistan

[58:29] arguably the greatest cricket player in the world ever right he's the babe ruth of of cricket and he was married to jemima goldsmith a minor member of the british royal family she converted to islam for him he had two beautiful sons um he's rich he used his own money to build children's hospitals in pakistan i mean people would like practically get on their knees to to you know prostrate themselves in in front of him

[59:01] and then he got himself elected prime minister and he realized that the country is corrupt the country is broken you have the united states that treats you like you're the greatest friend in the world when they need you and they treat you like [ __ ] when they don't need you then you've got really your best friend the chinese they decide ah maybe they don't want to spend as much money in pakistan as they used to they're going to spend their money in in africa with belton road then you've got the indians

[59:32] cozying up to both the united states and to to russia so you've got your greatest enemy on the one side you've got another enemy on the other side you've got the taliban to worry about blowing up stuff in your in your country so what should you do oh you should blame the united states for all your problems and pakistanis are like look you know we don't like the united states either but the united states didn't make our country the [ __ ] that it is and so he's going to lose this race

[1:00:05] which is really funny to me because he's been you know as good a prime minister as you're going to get in in pakistan he's not corrupt because he doesn't need the money he's the richest guy in the country so uh any and he made it you know from sports so i i i think that i'm i'm gonna say something controversial it's something that i believe and i apologize in advance if this is offensive to people but islam holds that country back

[1:00:37] in 1964 pakistan and south korea had the same gdp the same right you've got in pakistan a country where there are textile manufacturers everywhere you look everywhere you look they produce so much of the of the world's clothing at a fraction of what it would cost us to produce it but um

[1:01:09] and i witnessed this myself you got to pray five times a day so you have to shut down production five times a day and then they're like every other day is a holy day you can't work on the holy days and then it gets so hot you really can't work in the middle of the day so everybody goes home to sleep and then the next thing you know nothing's getting done nobody's doing anything in the meantime the south koreans now are making cars and they're making planes and they're making cell phones and they're making tvs and they're making all of our kitchen appliances and and they're one

[1:01:41] of the wealthiest first world countries in the in the on the planet well the the pakistanis have never advanced not from the early 60s they're still angry about the partition of 1940 whenever it was eight they're still mad at the indians the money that they could have spent on infrastructure and on education they spent instead on nuclear weapons programs it's it's just a mess it's a mess and it doesn't matter who the prime

[1:02:11] minister is whether it's imran khan or somebody else you know corrupt or not corrupt the country is a basket case and it's not going to change yeah and i think that is one of the important parts of of what we have here in the united states obviously we're not living up to it whatsoever and obviously uh even that you know i think is is a little outdated itself but it's very important to keep the the distinction between the state and

[1:02:42] the religion you saw how that you know played out in with the vatican the church of england and in in in islam it's you know it's it's really unfortunate that they have that because it takes control of the whole country and you end up with the situation and that's a good contrast there with korea and you know if you could talk about this uh briefly too you brought up the belton road a lot of people uh you know we brought it up on this channel but there's not a lot of people talking about this i think this

[1:03:13] is important i think it's gonna to completely restructure the entire the entire the globe and i agree talk about belton road a little bit i think it's important for people to hear about belton road i think is is the most brilliant idea that the chinese have ever had you know one thing about the chinese you don't have to like the chinese communist party but one thing that they've really gotten right over the years is non-intervention number one

[1:03:47] i mean you can count on on three fingers really the the interventions that the chinese have engaged in over the years tibet um the north koreans invited them in uh to start at the start of the korean war and they had a brief border skirmish with the vietnamese in 1979 and that's it so here we are with our with our military budget that's more than the the next eight largest countries in the world combined

[1:04:17] and the chinese with their robust economy have decided to spend their money on infrastructure so they'll buy things like they bought the three largest ports in greece just as one example they bought the port of perez the port of iraq leon crete and the port of thessaloniki now owned by the chinese government uh i i was in um i was in africa a couple of years ago i went to djibouti ethiopia and somalia and

[1:04:48] i mean you know how poor these countries are it's like so incredible they're so incredibly poor people people can't eat but their roads are better than ours are because the chinese built them and gave them to them as gifts i've been to yemen five times yemen is one of the worst places on earth but they've got roads better than ours because the chinese built those go anywhere else in africa the chinese have built sewer systems water treatment systems

[1:05:19] they've built hospitals uh i mean it's it's incredible and you know the the good will that comes along with something like that i mean if a country came in and said look we're gonna build you an interstate highway system no strings attached and then they actually do it that's pretty incredible pretty incredible the chinese have gotten it right yeah and it's always better to work with people to trade with people than to i mean a lot of these times we're not even

[1:05:50] talking and you bring up yemen and it's where here in the us our tax dollars are a big reason why yemen uh is pretty that's right it's pretty shitty right now too that's right um let's talk a little bit about uh what's going on with julian assange yeah what's up yeah because you know yeah poor julian yeah geez man like i mean when i think about when i think about assange and some of these people man it just it hurts my heart to me think about this

[1:06:22] what what's going on with assange on the 20th what's today today is the eighth so week from wednesday um the court of westminster is going to decide whether or not to advance julian's extradition order to the home secretary they will do that there's no question about it so the home secretary pretty patal uh has already said if she receives an order to extradite julian that she will

[1:06:53] sign that order now there there is one other court that julian could go to it's the european court of human rights the european court of human rights has set three precedents where they refused to extradite british prisoners to the united states because of the way the u.s uses solitary confinement as a punishment but there is no law that says that the british have to have to put a stay on the extradition

[1:07:24] while julian's case is being heard so my guess is on the 20th pretty patel is going to order that julian be extradited and then in the days following he will be extradited to the united states and then what do you see happening from there well then he's gonna go on trial in the notorious eastern district of virginia right here in alexandria virginia um and this is where it gets bad you know this is this is uncharted territory

[1:07:57] uh we've never prosecuted a journalist or even if you don't agree that he's a journalist you certainly would have to agree that he's a publisher we've never put a publisher on trial for espionage for for practicing journalism and so you know let me draw let me draw a parallel will with my own case when i was being tried in the eastern district district of virginia

[1:08:27] um my best friend's wife her uncle was o.j simpson's jury consultant okay my best friend's wife her uncle o.j simpson's jury consultant and he didn't just work with o.j simpson he worked with george zimmerman and william kennedy smith and a lot of high profile prisoners or accused and so we got him a security clearance so he could go through the uh discovery

[1:08:58] that we had 15 000 pages of classified documents and at the end of of of this he um he met with all my other attorneys i had 11 attorneys if you can imagine we had this big meeting in the law firm in the conference room and he said if we were in any other district in america i would say let's go for it we're going to win this thing but the eastern district of virginia he said your jury is going to be made up

[1:09:29] of people who work for or who have relatives who work for the cia the fbi the pentagon the department of homeland security and intelligence community contractors you don't have a chance he said take the deal and so i ended up taking the deal well that's the whole reason why they charge julian in the eastern district of virginia julian's never been to the eastern district of virginia he's never been to the united states

[1:10:00] so why try him here because the eastern district is where he's the most likely to be convicted and the most likely to receive the maximum possible sentence i'll remind you he faces 145 years in prison and so um yeah this has the potential to be very very bad yeah and it goes along with the theme of them censoring free speech if they can get on tv again which i think would be pretty unpopular but you know i've seen

[1:10:32] them do crazier things they get them on tv well guilty uh you know and then and every the media is like yeah he was he's a war criminal and he you know he he put our our boys in in harm's way and he did all this if that's really going to set a danger it's already what's already happened already has es establishing a dangerous precedent to people that want to just you know give information in the time 145 years um

[1:11:02] that's still long that's still a lot longer than the uh twice three times convicted uh chomo that was going back to prison who actually did anything and there's to my knowledge that's right there is no evidence that said that assange put any or the leaks that he gave put anybody in harm any negative effects on any u.s military operations whatsoever that's exactly right and so it's a really sad thing no matter what you make of

[1:11:32] julian assange for at least this he shouldn't have he shouldn't be held captive and i think it's very important for people to stand with with people like john because john's fight is not over people like assange people that have have done this because like snowden because you know they're they're literally risking their lives yeah i mean john was doing that before in the cia uh he's already risked his life but that is taking it a step further now risking

[1:12:02] his life yet again to do this and it's really important for the people because you know most of us were busy we have our family our lives our jobs and you know not everybody can go out and protest all the time i get that or do whatever you have to do be involved you can't be a congress 24 7. but when do people do put their neck out on the line uh it's important to support these people and i got a couple more questions if you still got some time and um if you guys in the chat want to start putting your questions i'll start typing them down for john but sure let's take a

[1:12:33] quick uh break here and let people know how they can find your books and put your website up on screen here yeah i've got uh i've got three new books coming out uh on may 25th the cia insider's guide to surveillance and surveillance detection the cia insider's guide to lying and lie detection and the cia insider's guide to disappearing and living off the grid um that's all may 25th i've got some this desk kills fascism prince i think i

[1:13:04] have nine or ten left uh there's a whole story behind it you can see on the website website is john kiriakou.com i'm also on facebook and on twitter and uh and now on pan quake and yeah so just go to johnkeryaku.com it's on screen right now i'm going to put the link in the chat it's also in the description box there you can find his twitter you can find how to get his book you can find uh his link on facebook i'm most excited for the for the lie detection book i'm

[1:13:34] i'm actually been fascinated lately about uh human behavior um and and how in in different tells and just all i've been looking into rhetoric too and the good and bad of human behavior it's fascinating looking at the evolution of it so i'm gonna i really want to uh to do a show with you when that book comes out and kind of get into it i'm gonna i'm gonna get that one that the day comes out guys john kerrygaster.com it's on screen it's on screen here it's in

[1:14:05] the description please check it out um and support and support real people that are doing uh real things for our freedom we talk about freedom all the time um and here's somebody doing something so guys please share john kerryaku.com get it out to everybody find john his links to twitter and facebook over there get that out let's talk a little bit too about uh some true crime stuff right because i honestly was somebody that's like you know i i gotta

[1:14:36] learn everything that i can to to learn as many possible facts and things to tell other people to wake him up so we can change the world and i was like that's your crime who cares about true crime people die every day that's too much extra knowledge for me and then i came across this book called program to kill and basically the the the book goes over some of the famous serial killers john wayne gacy son of sam and and the people running these rings and

[1:15:07] somebody will die in the 70s uh you know what i'm saying and then that's the decade of the serial killer yeah exactly so you hear you know all about this stuff and it was interesting to me because one of the things that the book pointed out is one of the things you'll see with these serial killers is you'll see police involved you'll see high-ranking people that may have judges that may have dropped the ball they could have uh caught this guy earlier then they talk about the the way the reason they call it program to kill is

[1:15:38] they say there's a lot of ties to uh the military and some people um in intelligence and then there's though when they talk about these rings they'll talk about other people that were involved and then there was also this element of of the occult as well and that was fascinating to me because i'm just fascinated in general about things that you don't hear about so once i heard about like oh there might be something to more to some of this stuff than just oh yeah there's one guy and he killed a bunch of people no no you absolutely have to read

[1:16:11] a book called mary's mosaic i mean if if there was ever a book written for your interest it's mary's mosaic a friend of mine wrote it uh he's a psychologist uh i won't spoil it check it out you're gonna flip out when you read it and you're gonna hate the cia more than you do now okay because he used primary source documents to reach his conclusions it's just astounding you know i i had an

[1:16:42] idea um uh i had an idea to write a book on serial killers because like you i'm fascinated by cereal john you should and here's the reason why is because unfortunately in the world we live in nobody wants to read a book about uh i mean some people do but like that's something that's going to transcend everything right because people could care less that you're a award-winning uh cia whistleblower author and

[1:17:13] journalist and you changed the entire course of american history and then you inspired other people who also changed the entire course thank you but if you write about serial killers yeah that's what you're interested in what as soon as netflix comes out with a new serial killer thing like all the girls wanna to have sex with ted bundy so you gotta yeah you should be crazy it's crazy i'm dead serious you you should do that because i think that will be very successful especially coming from from

[1:17:44] you i i would love to read that book well i i had this idea i figured you know i've got the credentials i'm i'm an experienced interviewer i guess some would say interrogator and um uh so i i decided to write some letters to some well-known serial killers i wrote to um uh i wrote to david berkowitz son of sir god okay okay i wrote to gary leon ridgeway the green

[1:18:16] river killer he killed 49 prostitutes in eastern washington state i wrote to the btk killer bind torture kill i wrote to the co-ed killer um and i wrote to who am i forgetting oh uh from the from the manson family what's his name um charles no no no uh his number two his name will come to me anyway i started getting responses

[1:18:48] so my first one was from oh tech tex watson from the manson family so my first response was from tex watson and i was like oh my god i got a response from you to interrupt you and this has been by far the best interview ever we've ever done and this is amazing stuff um but what do you just like what's the what are you writing to these people in the first place what are you saying well i'm saying look i'm a serious author my first book made number five on the new york times bestsellers list my second book one of one one of the country's

[1:19:18] four biggest literary awards i've written now eight books and i want to write a book about your experiences i've got some very specific questions you know stuff like that just introducing myself is there anything you need can i get you a magazine subscription something like that so tex watson writes back immediately and he asks me to help spread the word of jesus

[1:19:49] right he found jesus and can i please uh just go on facebook and say how tex watson found jesus and and he is in jesus's warm embrace and blah blah blah blah blah well page after page about jesus i was like dang it well that was a bust i didn't see that post i would have i mean i would you don't have to co-sign you could have just said hey yeah i mean that's a difficult position to put yourself in you're trying to look for a

[1:20:20] party i wouldn't want it i hate this guy but i did i ignored it so uh then a couple of weeks later i get a i get a letter from son of sam and i'm like oh my god i said david berkowitz wrote me a letter so i opened it up and it was like thank you so much for writing i was so happy to receive your letter i want you to know that i have found my lord and savior jesus christ and this letter was all [ __ ] right you could tell he was

[1:20:51] just going through the motions so the whole thing is jesus jesus jesus jesus and then months pass and i don't hear from anybody else and then last week i get a a really fat envelope from gary leon ridgeway now he was one of the two that i really wanted to hear from i wanted to hear from him and from btk and um so i was excited because the envelope was so thick i open it up

[1:21:23] and it's all these pamphlets about jesus and he asks me if i will go door-to-door in my neighborhood handing out these pamphlets and say gary leon ridgeway the the green river killer has found jesus and he wants you to find jesus too so i'm like this book's not good do you think these guys really have found jesus no no it's all fake it's all fake why do that though and why not what's

[1:21:54] the psychological aspect there why not just improve because then they're gonna get people like i'll tell you the questions that i wanted to ask like btk for example i wanted to ask how he could turn it on and turn it off like he did because he went a stretch of like 14 years without killing anybody but then he was so perverse he was so broken in his psyche that he murdered a six-year-old girl and

[1:22:24] then masturbated on her dead body like how can you not control yourself you cannot control your rage and you do something like that and then you go 14 years without killing anybody you get married you raise a family you get elected president of your church council and then you start killing again like i wanted to know what was going through his mind the um the the co-ed killer he killed six six women after killing his grandparents and his mother his mother

[1:22:57] had abused him and raped him he murdered his mother he cut off her head and then he had sex with her head and i wanted to ask him dude what was going through your mind you know what he does now in prison found jesus no he works for audible and he reads books on tape smart yeah creepy creepy like you're enjoying a good book late at night and this guy like boned his mom

[1:23:27] that's pretty pretty bizarre and you know that's a great question i mean obviously that would be one of my questions too you know what was going through your head but also like because from what i've learned about serial killers is they they usually can't resist that urge and they might take breaks but it yes but it won't be for 14 years no exactly exactly that's what i was so interested in it's a compulsion they can't stop themselves the first kill is the hardest one but once you cross that line it's

[1:23:59] like you can't stop yourself all right john i got to tell you something john have you heard of the long island serial killer so there was a netflix documentary is there okay i'm going to watch that so uh that's something that i kind of got into one of my friends and i'm going to put i'm going to shout out his channel real quick and i can't give too much away because he's he's editing all this stuff up but my boy cpr audits go check out cpr audit cpr artists and he's got a brand new true crime channel called

[1:24:29] murder man studios murder man studios murder man studios i'll put it in the chat uh and you know he's kind of really gotten me along with the book program to kill into this true crime stuff and he says you know and if anybody doesn't know long story short long island serial killer they've they found 17 bodies that they necessarily can't attribute to the long island killer but 17 bodies have been found on long island beach area um since at least 1996 there have been trouble with the case regarding uh

[1:25:00] police either incompetency or covering up the chief of states over there his car was broken into by a homeless dude they found sex toys and a snuff tape he went to jail over that so we've had a lot of problems so we we went out there last week myself auditing america and cpr audits and we were poking around cpr artists was poking around and i'm just gonna say guys i'm not gonna give you too many many details because he's literally

[1:25:31] editing this up right now cpr artists murder man studios found a bone there uh and then we called the lawyer the famous lawyer representing uh the victims in this case he showed up within an hour then we had the police commissioner there with two forensics teams um and you know we we ruled out a few things we talked to some people and they took the bone so if we're going to go back next week or the week after or even maybe in

[1:26:01] a couple days to go check out that's not even the original spot that he wanted to look into so that's some interesting stuff guys so stay tuned to cpr audits and murder man studios for more uh about that and i'd love to pick your head about a few other things but guys um because john's already been with us for like an hour and 10 hours 15 now um if you want to put your questions in the chat i'll ask him one or two more questions while you guys put that up there um let's see all right one person wanted me to ask

[1:26:32] you are you a free mason john uh no okay i'm not even sure how you become a freemason to be one you have to ask one you have to see the sign the science b1 you have to ask one i see no yep and uh another question was about the world economic forum what's your what you just didn't really have a particular question they just asked the world economic forum i i have a bias against uh organizations like that i have a bias against things like the world economic forum the

[1:27:03] shangri-la forum uh the the bilderberg organization you know any any time that that the the rich and famous and powerful get together behind closed doors and and seek to solve the world's problems in secret i think that's a bad thing yeah i would definitely agree with that and you know it's of the world economic forum that you know putin was one of their rising stars okay a question about uh kind of on the same thing klaus schwab what's your take on on that dude

[1:27:37] i really don't know anything about him other than what i've that i've read in the uh in the press and i see another uh from luigi garcia 64 should the cia be shut down yes it should there's no reason to have a seat it's great okay cool you could see the comments i didn't know yeah yep um yeah there's no reason to have a cia and and there's so much redundancy in government too you know the pentagon has something called defense human services that recruits uh spies like the cia does uh nsa does all of the electronic

[1:28:08] eavesdropping uh you've got the state department's bureau of intelligence and research that that does uh written analysis there's no reason to have cia people running running around the world shooting people and overthrowing governments and and violating international law and human rights it's uh it's not necessary to have it uh this is another question i got before the show do you believe we're going through a period of government cleansing kind of just also

[1:28:39] with maybe the cia laptop to get the bad guys out or is this just a a phenomenon that some people are seeing on reddit um and then if whistleblowers can just be silenced deleted from social media are you optimistic or pessimistic about the future and where we're headed uh that that's a good question too i i'm i'm pessimistic um you know i i actually i fee i fear for our uh free speech rights in this country i

[1:29:10] really do i fear it and anytime you have a a big company a big social media company like facebook or twitter telling us that they know better what's good for us than we do and that they know they're the arbiters of what is is true and what is untrue what's real and what is fake it's it's a very uh dangerous situation so i i'm i'm pessimistic right now all right we're gonna john's time is very important so i've got a few more

[1:29:40] here if you guys want to put some final quick ones in the chat we can get to it and we're going to let john go and enjoy himself because he does so much um someone's saying why is nobody been prosecuted in regards to epstein ah you know i really believe that that the fix is in that that the people that epstein either would have implicated or that epstein's computer and papers have implicated are so important that uh

[1:30:12] they're too big to to prosecute okay so i've got two more here there's a few more but uh let's see one wants me to ask about food shortages and the other one about uh the possibility of an emp attack because if you can have an emp i guess anytime from the sun uh so what do you think with and i guess i can also tie the food shortages into just general overall economics with the dollar and stuff if you can sure about that and uh

[1:30:42] and an emp food and energy really because ukraine produces something like 10 percent of the world's wheat i think it's 10 12 something like that and to to have that just cut off overnight is going to have a serious impact in the middle east um in eastern europe and it's gonna have to be made up uh somewhere don't forget that we pay our farmers to not produce um so as not to to flood the market and drive down prices well you can't just

[1:31:12] turn that on and off you know flipping a switch and so i think we are going to go through a period of food shortages i think it's going to exacerbate inflation especially food inflation and they're going to be people going hungry especially in the in the middle east lebanon yemen jordan you know places like that and then look at look at afghanistan before before we went into afghanistan well into the 1980s afghanistan was a net food exporter if you can imagine

[1:31:44] they exported rice and wheat to pakistan and now they they use every inch of arable land to to grow heroin poppy the reason why we encourage that which we do is because even though afghanistan produces 93 percent of the world's heroin all that heroin goes to iran and russia and we want them to be addicted to heroin so they could be growing onions and pomegranates and tomatoes and

[1:32:14] wheat and all different kinds of things we don't want them to we want them to stick with with heroin poppy um what was the other the emp and someone's asking about the department of uh of education that keeps spamming that in there um sorry that'll i promise be the last one so if you talk about emp the department of education i have my own thoughts on that but we'll save that well i i really do i really don't know to tell you the honest to god's truth i could give you an ill-informed answer but i i really don't

[1:32:44] know it's not an issue that i've followed department of education yeah that's not really uh and next time when you're with the questions guys be very specific in your questions too or unless you just want to have certain comments the department of education created in 1980 not one academic metric has increased since then whenever you have something that's centralized it's a bad thing if you have different states doing their own programs let's say virginia has a good program or new hampshire then other states can adopt that and uh free market is always the best answer in the emp attack um you know it's

[1:33:16] interesting for me because i'm not a i'm not a statist but i i do think it would be a good idea to harden the electrical grid uh to protect the emp attack because agreed so if anything was to happen not even from a terrorist just from the sun then because of the sun exactly the course of of progress for decades if not hundreds of years um so guys thank you very much for the questions up on screen i have john kiriakou.com and i also have it in the
