Title: Iran, Israel & Epstein Are All Connected
Show: Michael Franzese
Date: 2026-03-24
URL: https://youtu.be/sWucl8ZRiK8
Duration: 76:00

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[00:00] How is that even possible? The guy was a seventh grade substitute math teacher with no college degree and he's managing the Rothschild family's billions. It doesn't make any sense. By not releasing the documents that gives rise to conspiracies, it eats away at, you know, trust in your administration and it leads people to think that, you know what, they may have something on him. Maybe that's why he won't release the documents. Bobby Jr. and his mom pull

[00:30] into the driveway. He gets out of the car. He's walking past his dad and he's looking at his dad and he hears his dad say to Mone, "Tell me your people didn't do this." And Mccon says, "I don't know who did it." I think that Trump really believed that as soon as we started hitting the Iranians and we killed not just Ayatami, but virtually the entire defense leadership, he really believed the country would just collapse like a house of cards. And it didn't. So, we may have bitten off more than we could chew here.

[01:03] >> Hey everyone, welcome to another sitdown with Michael Francis. Hope everybody is doing well. All is very good, very blessed on this end, my friends. As always, I give all the praise, honor, glory, and thanksgiving to our God for that because he deserves it. Okay, I have an explosive guest today. You might have heard him before, but I talked to him, I think, in a different way than many other people have. Explosive. It might be the most interesting conversation I've ever had and I think I said that once before, but this is explosive. You got to listen in. Before

[01:33] I get into it, I want to thank all of you that have been subscribing in the past couple of videos. We got a couple of thousand new subscribers. Why? Because I asked a favor of all of you. Uh my birthday's coming up May 27th and my team has challenged me to get to 2 million subs. We're getting close. very good possibility we can hit it by May, but all of you have to uh contribute. If you like the content, if you don't like me, don't don't worry about it, you know. But if you do, please subscribe. It would be a favor to me. A birthday

[02:04] present, I should say, for my birthday on May 27th. I'm going to be 75 years old, 3/4 of a century. Where did the time go, people? I got to tell you this. There was a time I didn't think I'd make it till 75, but not there yet, but I'm getting close. So, we'll see. But if you can do me that favor, please. Birthday present. Just subscribe. And hey, thank all of you who have done so already. And thank you for being loyal followers because without you, I don't have a platform. Bottom line, that's it. John Kiraku,

[02:34] this is my guest today. ExCIA agent, got himself in some trouble. He was a whistleblower many, many years ago while he was with the agency. He blew the whistle on a terrorist that might have had something to do al-Qaeda something to do with the um bombing of the World Trade Center way back when. Very, very possible. We don't know that for a fact, but very possible. But he blew the whistle on some agents that were waterboarding this guy cuz that's an outlawed practice. You're not allowed to do it. He ends up getting indicted and

[03:06] he got some federal time. He went to prison over it. The funny thing is or the ironic thing is the guys that actually did the water boarding, nothing happened to them. So anyway, he's got a lot of experience, but I'm telling you, the information that he's providing is explosive on Israel. I'll tell you how explosive it is. Many of you know my position there. He's got me thinking about Israel. I have to say that Epstein, what he's going to tell you about Epstein, and it makes sense. It all fits in. It makes sense. the war in

[03:37] Iran and Israel's involvement. Does Israel really have something over the United States and Trump? He's going to talk about it. You decide. Getting me to think. The Kennedy assassination. I found out something today I didn't know. Do I believe the mob was involved? Absolutely. Does he break that theory at all? Absolutely not. Not a theory. It's a fact. No question about it. But he gave me even more evidence to prove that it's so in my mind. Without a doubt. Did Epstein commit? Hell no. Told you that. Hell no. And he's going to talk about

[04:08] that, too. We We talked about a lot of different things, but all of them fit and make sense. How Israel is in the center of a lot of this stuff. I I tell you what, he's got me thinking. And people, I want to tell you something. I don't mind admitting I'm wrong. If I take a certain position, and there's evidence to show that, hey, this position, you better rethink. I'll rethink it. I have no problem telling you. None whatsoever. You know, I'm not invincible. I'm not, you know, beyond making a mistake or whatever, you know, based upon information I know. And if something new comes in and I believe it

[04:39] to be credible enough to at least give it some thought, I'm going to say it. And I'm telling you, I'm rethinking something about Israel with respect to Epstein and with respect to the war in Iran and maybe a few other things. Even the Kennedy assassination, he said some things that you're not going to believe. So, let's explore it. Listen, I have a lot of Israeli friends, but the truth is the truth. They have nothing to do with whatever's going on there with Israel. That's for sure. But he said some things John did that really made sense. This

[05:09] guy, this is an explosive interview. And you know what? He's credible. I I can feel it. I can sense it. He's credible. So, let's uh without any further delay, my very very special guest, John Kiryaku. And I hope I'm saying that name right. I believe I am. John, welcome. Mike, I have to say I have been a fan of yours for so long. I think you do such great and important work and that this is a real like personal treat for me. Thank you so much for the invitation.

[05:39] >> Well, I really I really appreciate that. I didn't know that you knew me at all, but uh I appreciate that very much. Thank you. >> In fact, you and I were on a panel together on uh Pierce Morgan. >> Yeah. >> Oh, that's right. Gosh, Ron, I forgot about that. That's right. Alan Alan Dersowitz and Scott Horton went to the mat and you and I just kind of sat there like this and just let them kill each other. >> Right. That's right. Yeah. We we were the uh we were the calm ones on that. Yes. >> We were the voices of reason. >> Well, it's great to have you. I I've

[06:11] been looking forward to this also, John. >> Thank you so much. That that means a lot to me. >> Yeah. But I want to I want to jump right into this and they'll be editing this right away because this >> everybody's mind. Was Jeffrey Epstein a spy in your opinion or experience I should say? >> I I believe pretty firmly that Jeffrey Epstein was a spy but not in the traditional sense of of a James Bond kind of spy. Um I think that he was what

[06:41] we call an access agent most likely for Mossad but but it's deeper than that and I'll explain that in a second. An access agent is well to explain an access agent let's say that you are a foreign intelligence service and you want information from some of the most powerful some of the most important people on earth. You're not going to recruit Bill Clinton or Bill Gates or Prince Andrew or or the British ambassador of the United States. Those people are not recruitable and they

[07:13] don't need money. So money is not going to motivate them. So you hire instead somebody who has access to those people. Somebody who can whine them and dine them, make them comfortable, have them drop their guard, they speak a little bit out of school, and then you can report that back to your handlers. That's valuable information. When I was in training, when I was in CIA training, one of my instructors said something that has stuck with me for all these years. He said that the best recruitment he ever made over a 30-year career was a

[07:46] copy machine repair man. And we all laughed. >> And he said, "Hear me out. We all wish that we could go overseas and recruit the prime minister. None of us are going to recruit the prime minister. But you recruit a copy machine repair man knowing that the prime minister's copy machine is going to go down eventually or it's going to need to be serviced or cleaned. And so when that happens, he goes into the prime minister's office.

[08:17] Security is there to make sure, you know, he doesn't steal documents or whatever. He's not interested in that. What he does is as he's cleaning and servicing the copy machine, he's installing a little device that we created so that every time somebody makes a copy on that machine, it transmits a copy to Langley. That's an access agent. You haven't recruited the prime minister, but you did the next best thing because everything that the prime minister is seeing, you are now seeing. I believe that Mossad recruited

[08:50] Jeffrey Epstein as an access agent either to collect information from these very very important people or to plant the Mossad's point of view on XYZ issue in the in the minds of these very important people. Now, in this latest trunch of the Epstein documents, among among horrors, we also learned that he repeatedly reached out to the CIA and the FBI, asking volunteering

[09:22] to help them and to do work for them. He did the same with the British MI5 and MI6. And he repeatedly attempted to engage with what was then the KGB, now the SVR, to get a one-on-one meeting with Vladimir Putin. The Russians actually offered him a meeting with Putin and two national security aids and he turned it down. He said he needed for it to be one-on-one with Putin and the Russians weren't biting. So I think that this was all about the Mossad and then I

[09:53] think that he thought maybe he could freelance a little bit and just see what else he could come up with. >> All right, my friends, let me tell you something and I mean this. You know how wine is made? The grapes get crushed. It sits in the dark. It goes through pressure. Most things don't survive. And then it becomes something beautiful. That's my story. That's this wine. If you're going through something right now, trust the process and try the wine. frine.com. Wow, John, that that is so interesting. But, you know, it brings up some other

[10:24] questions. You know, do you think this happened in the very beginning? Because a lot of people, myself included, like where did this guy come from? all of a sudden it seemed out of nowhere he meets up with you know Les Wexner and he gives him the keys to the kingdom for some reason. >> Um do you think it started like before that or once he started to show that he had money and he had some relationships? Is that when maybe they started to recruit him or use him?

[10:55] >> I I think it may have been before and and I'll tell you why now. And I'll preface this by saying that Les Wexner adamantly denies this, but I think they may have been lovers. Jeffrey Epstein was was a junior high school substitute math teacher with no college degree. I would love to own the widest townhouse in Manhattan. I would love to own my own

[11:28] island in the Caribbean and my own fleet of private jets, but I'm a normal person. Normal people don't just fall into something like that. We know that that the origin of his wealth, I won't say the basis, but the origin of his wealth was with or from Les Wexner. Less Wexner being of course the wealthiest man in the state of Ohio. And >> Les Wexner latched on to Jeffrey

[11:58] Epstein, adopted so to speak, Jeffrey Epstein without any logical reason for doing so. There had to be 500,000 people in the United States that would have been better qualified to manage this billionaire's money. Why Jeffrey Epstein? So, I think that I think that the Israelis directed him to target Les Wexner. That's what got

[12:29] him started. Wexner testified a couple of weeks ago that he was the one that had um spoken to the Rothschilds and the Rothschilds said, "Oh, you should talk to our friend Jeffrey Epstein. He manages our money." How is that even possible? The guy was a seventh grade substitute math teacher with no college degree and he's managing the Rothschild family's billions. It doesn't make any sense. So, I think that this was one of

[12:59] those very long-term operations. You know, it's easy to fall into into sort of a rut where we compare we as as CIA officers compare our operations with the operations of other intelligence services. We have a very limited timeline in our operations. You don't get promoted if you don't make a recruitment. And if you don't make a recruitment in 6 months or 12 months, you move on and you move on to the next

[13:30] guy or the next issue or whatever, the Israelis, the Russians, the Cubans, they have a much longer term view where they'll pluck somebody out of obscurity like Jeffrey Epstein, and they'll manage him for 20 years, 30 years, no matter how long it takes, they know that in the end, he's going to be able to report to them. >> Wow. You know that you you brought up something interesting. I only learned about this recently. What do you think the connection between the Roth trials

[14:01] because that's like stunning and Epstein. How did that even come about? It is completely unexplained in these documents. So you know this these 3 million documents, Mike, this was like a tease for the American public. And there are still between 2.7 million and 3 million more pages that haven't been released and according to Pam Bondi now won't be released. But we we're we're teased with this

[14:32] information about the Rothschilds to the point where Congress subpoenas Les Wexner and he just teases more. In fact, you may have seen the clip from his testimony on YouTube where a congressman asks him a question and he gives what appears to be an honest answer and on a hot mic his lawyer leans in and he says, "I will kill you if next time you don't answer the question yes or no."

[15:02] >> So, they don't want us to know the details of the of the origins of these relationships. There's something there that is embarrassing, that is humiliating, that is possibly dangerous, that they just don't want us to know about. For example, they talk about beef jerky in something like 1,500 different emails. Jeffrey is having the guy over to make the big jerk, the beef jerky. The guy's coming over to teach us how to make beef jerky. We're going to make the beef jerky.

[15:33] We're going to freeze the beef jerky. I love beef jerky. They talk about beef jerky nine ways from Sunday, but you know what they never talk about? They never talk about eating beef jerky. And so >> what are they actually talking about? Is it children? Is it people? >> We don't know. There are more questions now after the release of these three million pages than we had before we knew anything at all.

[16:05] It's it's John. It's it's unbelievable. It really is. I mean, the the extent of this operation that this guy had over, I guess, a 20-year period or something that the people that he was in contact with, you know. So, I mean, look, I I think everybody believes and knows if we had to bet our life on it, there was a huge cover up here. And I think I I don't know if you Yeah. If you're aware that Marjorie Taylor Green, she talked about on a YouTube uh deal

[16:38] that she had a conversation with Trump. >> Yes. >> And Trump actually told her, she said, you know, why are you so mad at me for wanting these documents released unredacted? You're not in them >> to any any problem with you, you know. And he said, yeah, but many of my friends are. >> Yeah. >> I mean, that was his response. A and I think that I think that she was so courageous in her willingness to stand up, but it was too much even for her and they they forced her all the way out of

[17:09] Washington. You know, when when you've got members of of both political parties, very high ranking members of both political parties, presidents of both political parties that are at least implicated in accusations Then you have to ask, you know, what what would we expect them to do other than to try to cover up? I'll tell you one thing that that bothers me very much about these these documents in the latest trunch.

[17:40] I have a very particular interest in John Brennan. John and I kn have known each other for 30 36 years. John Brennan, it was always my belief, was a murderous sociopath. And what we saw in these latest documents was the Obama White House general counsel, Katherine Remler, who just last week was asked to resign as the general counsel for Goldman Sachs. Kathern Remler

[18:13] sending an email to Jeffrey Epstein saying, "John Brennan gave me the CIA's highest honor today." Pretty neat, huh? Well, I was at the CIA for 15 years. I know what honor she got. That honor was reserved for CIA officers who were killed in the line of duty. So, what in the world could Katherine Remler have possibly done to warrant the CIA's highest honor? An honor that is that is reserved for the organization's

[18:43] greatest heroes. And then she tried repeatedly to get Jeffrey Epstein and John Brennan together for breakfast or for lunch. We don't know if she was ever successful cuz Brennan's not talking. And if there was a response, it wasn't released in this latest trunch. But like I said, there there were so many other lines of investigation that were revealed to us that I'm not sure we could ever get through it. And everybody's implicated.

[19:16] >> Was she even an uh a CIA operative in any way or >> she was a lawyer? >> Remler. >> Nope. She was a lawyer who went directly into government justice department. Worked her way up in the Justice Department and then Obama brought her over to the White House as uh as White House counsel. She didn't have any experience in intelligence at all. But I have a theory. I follow these issues very very closely and and forgive me if I'm a little overly passionate about it. But

[19:48] in 2009, I was the chief investigator on the Senate Foreign Relations Committee and a journalist from uh the New Yorker magazine called me and said that she had information that John Brennan, who at the time was the deputy national security adviser for counterterrorism, was hosting meetings at the White House every Tuesday morning at 7:00 called the Tuesday morning kill list meetings. I said, "What are you talking about?"

[20:19] So, she came to my office, closed the door, we had this off thereord conversation. It's on the record now because she published it. But she said that every Tuesday morning at 7:00 a.m., John Brennan chaired a meeting made up of attorneys from the Justice Department, the CIA, and the White House, as well as representatives from the CIA's um uh special activities division, and they would come up with a list of people to

[20:50] kill that week. They would agree on the list. >> Wow. Brennan would sign it on behalf of the president and then the teams would fan out around the world, kill everybody that was on the list and then meet again the next Tuesday morning for that week's list of people to kill. And I think that she was probably responsible for White House approval for all those assassinations.

[21:22] Now, you can't go to the Washington Post if you're John Brennan and say, "Hey, shout out to Katherine Remler. She helps me kill so many people. I just want to say what a great patriot she is." You can't do that. So, you give her an award that nobody is supposed to know about. It's a classified award. And then she blew the classification by immediately emailing Jeffrey Epstein and saying, "John Brennan just gave me the the top award that the CIA has. It's sick." Wow.

[21:53] >> You know, John, I'm glad you just uh verified something for me. I always looked at John Brennan as one of the most arrogant guys. I just didn't like anything about him and everything that I've seen with him. I I likened him. He was a worse version in my opinion of Jay Ed Garoover. And I said, "This guy must have a lot of dirt on a lot of people." >> Yes, sir. >> Yeah. I I really believe that. But man, to hear something like that, an actual kill list. >> Oh yeah. An actual kill list. And in the

[22:25] beginning, Brennan denied denied denied that any such thing existed. And then when the magazine found enough people and it was like a half a dozen people sitting, you know, current CIA people saying, "Of course we have a kill list. What do you think we do all day long?" they were able to run with the with the story and publish it. >> Crazy. >> It's just unbelievable.

[22:55] >> So, John, there is, you know, when I look back at that statement that Trump said, many of my friends are involved. There is some I mean the president has a lot of power but there has to be people in this world that in some way control him or keep him you know quiet to a certain extent and maybe not only true of him but others and what I want to ask you is there's this flood of information out not information of opinions out

[23:26] there that it's really Israel that has so much control over the United States over our presidents and everything else. Now, you know, they're all talking that this is Israel's war with Iran. It's not ours. What What could you say about that, John? >> Well, I could forgive me for smiling. I could say a couple of things. In all the years that I was at the CIA, literally every single time that an Israeli prime minister would come to Washington, and usually they come once or twice a year, sometimes more. In the

[23:58] last year, Benjamin Netanyahu has come seven times. Literally, every single time they would come, no matter who the prime minister was, no matter who the American president was, they would ask us to bomb Iran. Every single time, and I mean going back to the 80s, and every single president would say, "I'm not going to do that. It's going to be the start of World War II. I'm not going to do it." In fact, George HW Bush, the father, actually revoked

[24:30] uh loan guarantees for Israeli housing construction because the Israelis would not stop with these constant requests to bomb Iran. We always sort of hoped that the Iranians would turn around, they would agree to talks, maybe we would go through the Omanis, maybe we'd go through the Algerians, and then everybody could live happily ever after. That never happened. But there was this constant drum beat of pressure from the Israelis that we've got to bomb Iran. You got to bomb Iran. Well,

[25:04] we didn't bomb Iran until Donald Trump. And I have friends at the White House. I have friends in the administration and they all tell me the same thing. They say that Trump agreed to bomb Iran because Benjamin Netanyahu threatened him and told him, "If you don't bomb Iran, we're going to use nuclear weapons against Iran." Now, of course, the Israelis have never admitted that they have a nuclear program. But analysts

[25:36] believe that they have between 80 and 200 nuclear warheads. The Israelis are not signitories to the uh nuclear non-prololiferation treaty. Interestingly enough, the Iranians are. I can also tell you that the deal that we had with the Iranians that was called the JCPOA and the deal that the United Nations had with the Iranians were identical to the deal that the International Atomic Energy Agency had negotiated with Saddam Hussein's Iraq

[26:08] for for observation of Iraq's uh weapons programs. lead seals on every door, cameras pointing, you know, 360° spot inspections with no uh with no warning, no coordination. The Iranians had agreed to all of that. In addition to that, in addition to the Iranians agreeing, the CIA wrote two national intelligence estimates. This is the highest level analysis that's produced

[26:41] by the entire American intelligence community. two of them over the last 10 years saying that the Iranians do not have a nuclear program. It was always a joke at the CIA, Mike, when Netanyahu would come to Washington. He would always be invited to address Congress, which is unusual, but every time he comes, he's invited to address Congress, and he would always say that the Iranians are six months away from a nuclear weapon. Well, you've been saying that since 1986.

[27:13] and they're still six months away from a nuclear weapon. Well, they're not. They never were. And and not only did the CIA assess that they were not, but the late Ayatollah Ali Kamayi, who was killed a week or two ago, issued a fatwa saying that it was it was a sin to build a nuclear weapon and that to build a nuclear weapon would be punishable by death. But we just took Netanyahu at his at his

[27:44] word. >> Well, in July when we did bomb Iran at Netanyahu's request, you'll recall that the president said that the Iranian nuclear program had been obliterated. His word, it had been obliterated. It no longer exists. And then from July until now, oh my god, they're six months away from a nuclear weapon and we have to go in now and wage full-scale war. I was in the Gulf a week ago and I was in the

[28:16] Gulf three weeks before that in Kuwait, Abu Dhabi, Dubai, and Doha. And I've I've spent a good bit of my adult life in the Persian Gulf uh serving in the in the CIA. I love it there. And I have wonderful close abiding relations with all of the the various royal families there and everywhere. >> I got to just stop you for one minute, John. One second. We were probably in Dubai at the same time because I was

[28:46] there just a few weeks ago. >> I was there for two weeks and I met with one of the the shakes and uh I got a lot of friends in there also. So yeah, we got out and then all heck broke loose as they say. But uh a few days, just a few days later, >> but I I think you're going to agree with me. They were all worried. >> They were all worried because when George W. Bush wanted to make war against Iraq. American diplomats went out all over the world to make the case. The president

[29:16] crisscrossed the country to win over the American people. And this time, nothing. Nobody went out to the Gulf to say, "Listen, we've got a serious problem about the Iranians. we're going to just finish them off for once and for all. Nobody ever had that conversation. And so they're asking me like I'm an insider, which I'm not. What do you think he's going to do? I I I told I told a senior royal in the United Arab Emirates um I said I've been watching this for a long time and it's my

[29:46] experience that the United States would not send two aircraft carrier strike forces, two aircraft carrier battle groups with 12 associated ships each unless they meant to do serious damage. I said I think I think we're going to attack them. >> Yeah. >> Well, John, let me ask you this now. jumping back and forth and I didn't want to get off the Epstein matter because there's more. But now I have to ask this question. So Netanyahu comes now, tells

[30:18] Trump, "We're going to use nuclear weapons, connect Epstein to Msad. Is it possible too that they have more information and maybe Trump does have a problem with Epstein or there is things that he's trying to cover up there and so maybe there is a connection there?" There's there certainly could be. See see this Mike? This this is exactly what's wrong with a lack of transparency. >> All right, my friends. Listen up. I've got some important news. I would say you

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[32:21] experience with every one of you. Right? If if you're if you're truly transparent, just release the documents. Just put it all out there. Let the cards fall where they may. By not releasing the documents, that gives rise to conspiracies. Now, the conspiracies may be true. Just because they're conspiracies doesn't mean they're not true. But it it dogs you. It eats away at, you know, trust in your administration and it leads people to

[32:54] think that, you know what, they may have something on him. Maybe that's why he won't release the documents. And and I'll add one thing. The vote on Capitol Hill to release the documents in the House of Representatives was 419 to1. In the Senate, it was 99 to nothing and then the president signed it. Okay? So, it is law. You can't just decide, well, I don't like that law, so I'm not doing that. That's contempt of Congress,

[33:25] which can be a felony, and the attorney general is in contempt of Congress. When she went on national television and said, "All right, I'm not releasing any more documents. That's it. No more." You can't do that. You can't say that. But the calculation is this. The calculation is she knows she can't do that, but she's going to make the other side sue her. And then it's going to go to the federal district court and they'll lose. And then it'll go to the circuit court of appeals and they'll lose. And then it'll go to the to the Supreme Court and

[33:57] they may lose, but by then they're all out of office because it took five years to get there. >> Yeah. >> And I think that's what they're counting on. So even though that it's a law to release them, it's still up to the Department of Justice to see what's redacted and what's not redacted, right? >> Yeah. And that's another important point. So on the CIA side, we we had to redact documents all the time because you've got a mandatory declassification law after 30 years and you also have the

[34:28] Freedom of Information Act. So all of us all of us at any given time would be going through documents and saying, "Okay, I'm going to black out this." And then you write in the margin 4 HUM or HUM4-82 or HUM1-93 or whatever which means sources and methods, liaison relationships, whatever. So I can't if you file a Freedom of Information Act request about something, I'm going to have to respond to it, but I can't say, "Well, we got

[34:59] this information from the Canadian Intelligence Service." That's classified, so I have to black that out. Well, they're just blacking out like random, you know. Okay, I understand you want to black out the names of the victims. God bless. That that's that's an important good thing to do, >> but you can't black out the names of the perpetrators, >> right? These are the people that are being invested for having committed crimes. >> And if you're going to black out the email addresses, I understand that it's

[35:30] a privacy issue, >> but you don't also black out the name of the person either sending or receiving the emails. It's like they they stood on the street corner and and yelled out to a bunch of teenagers, "Hey, you guys want a job for a couple of days? Come on in here, grab a Sharpie, and we want you to black stuff out." because these people at the Justice Department didn't know what in the world they were doing. >> Gosh. >> Yeah. I have to ask you, you just said something. I want to make sure I got it right. That there is a after 30 years

[36:00] it's mandatory that uh classified documents are released. >> Okay. The question >> and that's a law that like virtually nobody knows. >> I was going to say what about the Kennedy assassination? We still have all those classified documents. >> Exactly. >> And so by law, they should be unclassified. >> In fact, >> John, I have a theory. I I have a theory I want to share with you on that. >> My entire life, my entire adult life,

[36:31] from 1963 when the assassination happened until the time I left my former life, I was told there's no question about it that we mob was involved in that assassination through Jack Ruby. that I don't know what government agency came to us, but I heard this consistently from the right people, including my dad. I don't know what government agency came to us, but Jack Ruby was 100% associated with our with us, 100%. And that's documented. From what I understand, the commission came

[37:02] back and said he had no affiliation, which was an out and out lie. It was just totally a lie. He was associated with New Orleans, you know, with Chicago and even in Dallas. That's how he got a straight. It was 100%. And and yet they're saying it never happened. So I believed I always said that one of the reasons might be more reasons that they don't want to release these classified documents because the government doesn't ever want to say that a sitting president was able to be assassinated by people with the mob. And that's been my position knowing what I

[37:34] know. What What do you have to say? I know we're jumping around, but this is so interesting. I have to tell you >> I have a couple of things to to say about this. Um, when I got out of prison, I struck up a friendship with Oliver Stone. >> He bought the uh he bought the rights to my >> he bought the rights to one chapter of my first book and we we sold a show idea together to the History Channel that they never made. >> But we became friendly and remained friendly.

[38:04] >> And he put me on the spot one day. I was in his office and he said to me, "You're not one of those you're not one of those guys that doesn't believe that the CIA killed Kennedy, are you?" And I said, "You know, I think there were probably elements of the CIA that were involved in killing Kennedy, but in terms of being a CIA operation to kill Kennedy, no, I've never believed that." He said, "You're so full of shit." And I said, "No, no. I I genuinely I don't I don't believe that the CIA killed Kennedy."

[38:37] And he said, "Who do you think killed Kennedy?" I said, "It was probably um George Ganes who was kind of a rogue CIA officer stationed in Miami. He was very close to the Cubans." And I think that we probably should take a closer look at him. But I said at the same time, I don't think we've really gotten to the bottom of of where the mob was on all this. And I said, you know, we we hear these stories about Carlos Marcelo. We we hear stories about Santo Trafocante

[39:07] and the things that they said and the immediate aftermath, like we finally got him, you know, and and then the ties between Chicago and Jack Ruby. >> I said, I just don't think that's ever been fully investigated. He was he he got genuinely angry with me that I didn't just agree with him. Yes, the CIA killed Kennedy. Well, I later struck up a a friendly acquaintance, not we're not friends friends, but a friendly acquaintship with Bobby Kennedy Jr. and he and I started talking about

[39:39] this one time and he said he said something that I I told him in response. I said, "This is historical. You should write this down because I think the American people need to hear your recollections." He said on the day that his uncle was killed, November 22nd, 1963, his mom picked him up at school early, it was like 2:30, it was minutes after after the assassination. And they drove back to their home in Mlan, Virginia. It was called Hickory Hill. It was a glorious, you know, 40

[40:09] acre spread with a mansion on the top of the hill. And when they pulled into the driveway, his dad was standing there talking to John McCone. John McCone was the director of the CIA. The Kennedys and the MCONE were very very close. They were they were both devoutly Catholic. And then six months earlier, Mrs. McCon died of breast cancer. And the Kennedys were genuinely worried that John McCoen might

[40:41] do something to harm himself. And so they had him over to dinner seven nights a week just to keep an eye on him. And then after dinner, he and Bobby Kennedy senior would go swimming together. So Bobby Jr. and his mom pull into the driveway. He gets out of the car. He's walking past his dad and he's looking at his dad and he hears his dad say to Mone, "Tell me your people didn't do this." And McCone says,"I don't know who did it." >> He didn't say, "Wow,

[41:12] >> of course my people didn't do it." Why would you even ask such a thing like that? He said, "I don't know who did it." So he said, he always believed it was the CIA. I always believed it was elements of the CIA. But this is I'm coming up to my most important point. So I have a friend who is close to the president and I said to him at the time that the documents were released what about a year ago I said thank God that the

[41:45] president finally released the remaining documents and he said no he didn't. I said yeah he did he was compelled by law. Congress passed a law twice demanding compelling the president to release all documents related to the Kennedy assassination. He said, "There are 10,000 documents that are never going to be released." And I said, "Why?" And he said, "Because every single one of them points directly at Israel." And I said, "Oh man, that's that's not one that I was thinking of."

[42:18] He says that the Israelis were so angry that A John Kennedy wouldn't give them nuclear technology, but more importantly B he was actively trying to disrupt the Israelis from acquiring nuclear technology and they decided they had to take him out. >> Crazy, isn't it? >> This this is this is fascinating, John. Why is it that Israel seems to have this

[42:48] much say over the American government? I mean, I I don't get it. I mean, >> yeah, I I don't either. >> I mean, they're a small little country. >> Yeah. >> I know they're our only Well, not maybe not only, but they're are major ally in the in the Middle East, but why do they have this kind of power and control? Is it I don't know. I I I don't get it. The Israelis genuinely believe that they are alone in the world. They know that we're close, but they're

[43:21] afraid that we might not be so close tomorrow. And so, they genuinely believe that it is them against the world. And if they are not among the strongest powers in the world, they're going to end up floating in the Mediterranean. And so they made a strategic decision in the middle 1950s that they were going to have as much of an impact in American elections as they possibly could. Apac,

[43:53] the American Israel Public Affairs Committee was created in the 1950s as a domestic lobbying organization supporting Israeli uh foreign policy goals. Every country has lobbyists in in Washington. There's nothing unusual about that. What's unusual about it though? Well, there are several things. Number one, APEC is the only one of these organizations that does not have to register as a foreign agent. Why? I don't know why. They're clearly working on behalf of Israel, but they

[44:23] pretend that they're not, and so they don't have to register as foreign agents. More importantly, they really started focusing on fundraising for American elections in the late 1960s. And then they were successful in getting President Nixon in 1969 to guarantee Israeli national security. We had never said that before. Beginning with Harry Truman. You know, Harry Truman said that his role in the

[44:54] creation of the state of Israel made him quote a damn fool. That he was a damn fool for creating that country. and he said it was the biggest regret of his presidency because it spun out of control almost immediately. So they they created Apac in the 50s. They convince Nixon to to guarantee their national security in 69 and then they start going from, you know, being able to raise a couple of million bucks, 5 million, 10

[45:26] million to raising hundreds and hundreds of millions of dollars that would allow them to to be competitive in literally every political race in America. And I'll tell you a funny thing, Mike. I shouldn't smile because it's actually not funny. So, a buddy of mine is a uh he's one of these like civic leaders in Texas. And so, he's friendly with a state senator in Austin. And the state senator called him, this is about a month ago, and

[45:57] said, "Hey, listen. I'm going to propose a resolution to make a day named after you, like the the the Bill Smith Day." And he said, "They do about 140 of these a year. whoever's, you know, you're the head of the Social Security Commission or whatever, they're going to make a Mike Franzy's day and and you get a big certificate with the gold seal and the governor signs it and everything. He said it's all proforma. Couple of weeks later, he calls back and he says, "Hey, listen. That uh that Bill Smith day,

[46:29] that's not going to happen." And my buddy said, "Why?" He said, "Apac killed it." And I said, "Apac in the state legislature in Texas." It turns out that they have lobbyists in all 50 state legislatores. It's not just the House and the Senate here in Washington. He told me they're even involved in local races, not just the New York mayoral race. They're involved in races for mayor all over the country and for city council all over the

[47:00] country because they want to make the United States a 100% pro-Zionist country and uh and they're succeeding. Well, John, I got to ask you this and uh it may seem that we're bouncing around, but the Israeli connection makes it very interesting. Charlie Kirk. >> Charlie Kirk. everybody. Well, there's a lot of people out there that believe that Israel was behind his assassination.

[47:30] What do you have to say about that? I mean, I was I always said no, but I'm learning something here right now. I mean, you know, I I always said no, too, but but you know, there are so many people out there, Mike, who I respect, people far more important than than I could ever be, who say, "Wait a minute. Wait a minute. There's enough there that we should at least investigate it. We should at least look at it. I don't think that it was, you know, the Egyptian Air Force like

[48:01] Candace Owen says that the Egyptian Air Force killed him. But uh but you know, Charlie was Charlie was kind of cutting an independent path and there are a lot of there are a lot of interests out there that don't want people to take independent paths. And so at the very least, I think we owe it well certainly to Charlie's family and more broadly to the American people to investigate this thing.

[48:33] Well, there again, if if if there is an Israeli connection to Trump like that, um, you know, he would be the one that would kill any kind of an investigation that would point in any way towards Israel. It would seem. I think that was, you know, something we can consider. >> Man, this is such a a a deeply woven web >> of information. I I want to go back to uh to Epstein for a moment. >> I have always maintained that I spent

[49:03] seven months in MDC. Out of my 29 months in solitary, seven months was in MDC. I find it very, very tough to believe that he could have committed suicide based upon my experience there. Add to that what I've read and I think that's I think it's been verified that it took the FBI who are right across the street from MDC 7 hours before they came over to investigate the fact that their main inmate in that jail was committed suicide. >> Yeah. >> And I've maintained this. There's no way

[49:34] he could have committed suicide. So my theory behind it was that he probably said to whoever, "Hey, I got dirt on every one of you. you get me out of this like you got me out of this earlier or some heads are going to fly. I'm going to reveal everything. And at that point, they took him out and now it makes even more sense because of what you said with this kill list. >> Yeah. >> They just took him out. Um >> Absolutely. >> What do we need this for? >> Absolutely plausible. Yeah. >> You know, I

[50:04] >> I wasn't at MDC. I was at FCI Lorettto in Pennsylvania. But if my experience was >> was indicative of the the broader um Bureau of Prisons, and I think you'll agree with me, number one, the guards are morons. They're lazy. They're in the guard booth either sound asleep or on the phone with their girlfriends or looking at porn on the computer. They're supposed to walk around whatever it is every 15 minutes,

[50:34] every eight minutes when there's somebody on suicide watch. I never saw those guys. They walk into the booth for their eight hour shift and they walk out eight hours later for the very first time. Number two, the cameras never work. Now, they may have counted on the cameras never working. So, that may have been part of the plan. I was I was a janitor in the chapel, Mike, and every time there was a religious service being planned, I had to go in there and shoe

[51:06] all the guys who were having sex out of the chapel. >> So why were there guys having sex in the chapel? Because the cameras didn't work. The cameras never worked. Now, with that said, this is MDC. It's not some low security, you know, rural prison in Pennsylvania. These are these are very tough people, very bad people in many cases. And, you know, I I guess I wanted to believe that he had committed

[51:36] suicide, but then when Dr. Boden, you know, Dr. Bodton, the famous famous uh >> forensic uh Yeah. >> when he said, >> he's one guy I I I really trust him, John. you know, I've watched him and and you know, going way way back and I trust his, >> you know, his analysis or his investigation on this. >> And when he said that this was not a suicide, then I thought, okay, well, I'm with Dr. Boden. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. It's not only that, John, if

[52:07] Epstein had all of this information, and he obviously did, why would he want to commit suicide? I mean, his brother said it didn't make sense. >> It doesn't make sense. It doesn't make sense, you know, and let me tell you an associated story. Um, I was in a low security prison and as you know, almost all the pedophiles in the in the federal prison system are in low security prisons. Maximums and mediums are too dangerous for them. Minimums, they'll just run away and go molest

[52:37] another child. So, they're all in the lows. Right. >> There was a there was a very prominent Philadelphia attorney, Harvard Law School, uh, mergers and acquisitions uh, lead attorney at some big mucky muck firm in Moscow, American firm in Moscow, but he was a pedophile. And so he molested this little boy 12 from when he was 12 to when he was 15. And he got caught. And when he came back to the United

[53:10] States, he got wind that he was being investigated. Well, not even that he got wind. The kid filed a civil suit against him. And so what did he do? He ran away to Israel. Why Israel? Because Israel doesn't extradite Jews. They don't care what you did. You can be a mass murderer, a serial killer. You can be a pedophile. You can be the most notorious pedophile in the world. They're not extraditing you because they don't extradite Jews. So this guy ran to

[53:44] Israel. Well, he was a great lover of the ballet and the boy that he was molesting was this ballet prodigy in Moscow. So what Interpol did, it was brilliant. They took out ads in Israeli newspapers saying that there was going to be this one time only uh ballet featuring the greatest child ballerinas uh coming from Russia and it was for one night only in Cyprus. Well, Cypress is a

[54:15] hop, skip, and a jump from Israel. You get there in 40 minutes. >> And sure enough, >> sure enough, he got on a plane. He flew to Cypress to see this non-existent ballet and they grabbed him in Cyprus and extradited him to the United States and he got 20 years. So with that said, if I were Jeffrey Epstein and I own my own, you know, jets, multiple jets, I've got billions

[54:48] of dollars hidden all around the world. Why in the world would I not flee to Israel? The only thing that I can think of >> Yeah. Why? Why would he stay? The only thing I can think of is that he believed he was safe. He believed he was safe. And I think it's because of what you just said that he had so much dirt on so many important people that they wouldn't dare come after him. And then they did.

[55:19] It's it's the only thing that makes sense, you know, really. >> But there again, you know, was Israel if he was with MSAD, Israel was collecting all of this information and they would have information from the indication that people that were involved in this horrible Epstein thing. They must have dirt on so many people in the world of of stature, of meaning, of wealth. >> Imagine. Imagine. >> Yeah, it has to be

[55:51] >> like my guess is we can't even we can't even imagine what they were able to collect through him. It has to be just staggering. I mean, already in the UK, look what's happening. Uh, Prince Andrew is no longer a prince. And not only is he no longer a prince, he he's been stripped of his royal residence, essentially just thrown out into the street and arrested last week and he's going to be prosecuted because he allegedly gave Jeffrey Epstein classified defense

[56:23] ministry documents. Why in blazes would Jeffrey Epstein want classified UK defense ministry documents unless he's spying for a foreign power? uh pet Peter Mandlesson. >> Absolutely. >> The the former uh British ambassador to the United States and former minister and member of the House of Lords and senior member of the Labor Party. He kept saying, "I didn't even know the guy. I met him one time. I didn't I didn't have his number. I had never been

[56:53] to the island." And then in the latest trunch of documents, there are pictures of him in his underwear with a 16-year-old girl with a the picture's taken from a hidden camera. So now they've arrested him. Why would they charge him with for providing Jeffrey Epstein with classified trade negotiation documents, British positions on trade negotiations? What's Jeffrey Epstein going to do with that? He doesn't care about trade negotiations. It was for a foreign power.

[57:27] >> Exactly. Exactly. Because And he had to have a lot of dirt in order to get that that documentation. It's unbelievable. >> Unbelievable what this guy was able to do. It's just >> So I So you would you would tend to believe then that it was uh it was murder and not suicide. >> Yeah. I've It took me a little while around to it. >> Yeah. Yeah. I've come around to to murder. Yes. Yeah. I don't believe that it's a body

[57:59] double and he escaped and all this stuff. I spoke to his brother a couple of weeks ago and his brother said, "No." He said, "I identified the body. I accompanied the body to the crematorium. I cremated him." So, I I believe Jeffrey Epstein's dead, but I've I've finally come around to the to the murder issue. Unbelievable. All right, let let let's jump back to uh to Iran. So if if in fact Trump acted because of pressure from

[58:30] Netanyahu, who by the way, I have a friend of mine, very dear friend of mine, he's an Israeli, 35 years. He hates Netanyahu. Hates him with a passion. And he's Israeli. >> Most Israelis do. >> And you know, he's >> Huh. >> Most Israelis do hate him. He he's in Bulgaria now, my friend. He wants to come here. And I said, "Why do you hate this guy so much?" He's I'm going to tell you when I see I don't want to talk about it on the phone. Israelis are very, you know, they're very definite in things, but uh he hates him. Hates him

[59:02] with a passion. It's unbelievable. But I I don't know why, so I can't comment on that. But going back to the war, if in fact that happened, my what I'm saying right now, if Trump doesn't finish the job, and I mean really finish the job, his presidency is done. I mean, he's he's finished. >> I agree. >> He has no choice. Now, I think if Netanyahu did back him into this corner and he did act, he's going to finish it. And I don't think I don't think Israel would let them get off the hook at this point. They're going to they're going to

[59:33] finish the job if they can. >> Do do you think this you think it was just you know he had to put it out there Putin that he said he's supporting Iran all the way and he's condemning uh what happened you know here the war. >> You think it's just he has to say that it's bluster. Do you think they would ever get involved? I I don't the the Russians have been very >> The Russians have been very uh clear to not say that Iran falls under the

[1:00:04] Russian defense umbrella. They sell Iran guidance systems, radars, surfaceto-air missiles. They sell them all that stuff, but they've never said that they would protect Iran in the event of hostilities. And you know, with Trump, I I think again, I think that Trump really believed that as soon as we started hitting the Iranians and we killed not just Ayat Kamayi, but virtually the entire uh

[1:00:35] defense leadership, he really believed the country would just collapse like a house of cards. And it didn't. And the thing, look at it this way, too. We have to win to win. We have to replace that government with a pro-american, pro- West, maybe even pro-Israel government. The Iranians just have to survive. Just survival is a win for them. So, we may have bitten off more than we could chew here.

[1:01:08] >> Well, I hope he didn't underestimate them to that point. I I I I think, you know, as a novice in this, >> I'm thinking that right now he he's going to kill everybody if he can. He he wants to kill the new guy, the son that they just installed. >> And he's hopeful >> that the Kurds and and the people will start to rise up that he'll weaken, >> you know, the present administration enough so that when they do revolt, they can win. >> Yes. >> I mean, I think that's the card he's playing. >> I think that's exactly right.

[1:01:39] >> Does it sound right? Yeah, I think that's exactly what this is. And you know, we're we're in now to the point where we're we're in deeply enough that we we can't get out. This is uh this is it. We we've got to either see it through or walk away. And we can't walk away because we'll lose face. And we'll lose face especially with our neighbor our our friends, I should say, not our neighbors, with our friends in the Persian Gulf. You know, we started this.

[1:02:10] We're going to have to finish it because they're taking missiles. They have people being killed. So, we we've got to make this right. Well, John, let me let me ask you this. I think everybody all the foreign nations and all our allies believe that Iran is the major sponsor of terrorism throughout the world. They all know that. They all know that the regime was murdering their own people for 47 years. >> Yeah. Why don't they all just get together and say, "Let's just let's just

[1:02:40] eliminate this threat, period. So, we'll all contribute. NATO, whatever it is, we'll all get and we'll get the job done. We'll help the United States and finish it." >> Yeah. >> It seems like they're coming around a little bit at a time. But why why did they not all just get together and say, "Let's finish it." >> I think for a couple of reasons. Number one, war is incredibly expensive. We are spending $2 billion a day bombing the Iranians. It's crazy expensive. Number two, and this is especially true among

[1:03:12] our NATO allies, they don't have the stomach for casualties that we have. They just don't want to have to deal with it. And number three, and this is true of the the Germans, the Spanish, the Portuguese, the Italians, um it's a violation of international law to attack Iran. There was no clear and present danger. There was no imminent threat. There was no nuclear program. And there even if they had a nuclear program, there was no delivery system.

[1:03:44] So because there was no threat, it's a violation of international law to launch an attack. Now, we don't we're not signitories to the ICC. We don't care if, you know, Donald Trump gets charged with crimes against humanity. We don't care. and the Israelis care even less, but the Europeans care very much and they just don't want to be part of a major crime like that. >> Do you think uh Saudi Arabia because Iran is just sending missiles

[1:04:14] everywhere, do you think at some point they're going to get involved offensively rather than just defensively? >> It's possible, but there are almost no Saudis in the Saudi military. Uh Saudis are too rich. They're too fat and happy. They're They just don't have any Saudi nationals in the Saudi military. They're all Pakistanis. So, there are so many people in Pakistan, so many poor people that they just hire Pakistanis to be members of the Saudi military. Um, they could do

[1:04:44] that. They could send they could send Pakistanis over, but uh I think they would just rather wait this out. maybe absorb a couple of missiles if they have to, especially in the eastern province where the oil fields are, and then just move on from there. >> Wow. >> Yeah. >> I want I want to jump back because I know I'm going back to Epstein, but I have to tell you this. Bill Clinton, you know, I'll give you a personal thing. One night, this is years ago, this was

[1:05:15] after his presidency. I was listening to him on a late night talk show. And John, I was amazed at how brilliant this guy really is. I mean, he had such command over every issue. >> Yes. >> And the way he I always liked Bill. There's something about Bill Clinton you just got to like. He He's likable. I can't I can't explain it. >> But I think he and Hillary made fools out of the GOP in their deposition. He he just he just handled them. >> Yeah. I one of the things with the GOP,

[1:05:47] you know, they have so much bluster about them and they talk and they don't do anything. >> They don't do anything. >> That's exactly right. >> Nothing. >> I just made a fool out of him. >> I think that that they they played the Republicans in these uh these testimonies. And then Lauren Boowbert, like how stupid could a person be? >> After being told twice no photography, she takes a picture of Hillary testifying and puts it on

[1:06:18] Instagram. Like she just can't be a serious person. Mike, please please dumb. >> It was so dumb. Please forgive me, but I've got to jump onto a business call. Um, and I I apologize deeply. No, John, this this was great and I hope one day we get the opportunity to do it again. >> I would love it. I have so much respect at your service. I mean it. >> Thank you. I'm at your service. >> Well, we will we will definitely do it. >> I look forward to that very much.

[1:06:49] >> You got it, my friend. Thanks. >> So great to see you. >> Thanks a lot, my friends. I don't know about you, but I'm blown away by this. I mean, he's given me food for thought about Israel because he's tying this all together, even with a little bit with Charlie Kerr. Not to the degree that people are spreading stuff out there, but Israel does seem to be involved in a lot of stuff. It's making me rethink some things based upon what he said. And this is a person with knowledge and understanding. Was with the CIA for a long time. I'm going to tell you

[1:07:20] something. I'm going to be disappointed in some people here if this does fit in the way it seems to be fitting in and making sense. I'm not ready to throw the gavl down and say that's it. I still want to continue to learn because let me tell you something people. I don't point fingers at people unless I know something for sure. It's why I've been reluctant to call people unless I know for sure and have the evidence because that's disgusting and I don't want to label anybody with that unless I have evidence. That's just me.

[1:07:50] A lot of people throw things around. They don't like people. They say I don't do that. And I'd said this and I admitted it here if you heard the interview. I thought Clinton took the GOP to school in the Epstein investigation. He took him to school. Clinton is brilliant. No question about it. And you know what? There's something about the guy that's very likable. All you MAGA people or all all the people that are on the Republican side are going to get mad at me for that. I'm not I'm not saying that what he I'm not saying anything about some of the things that he was involved in. I'm just

[1:08:21] telling you he's a brilliant guy. There's no question about it. Bill Clinton is smart. And even Hillary, she held herself very well in that. And and some of the things that she was asked, I didn't agree with. I didn't approve of it in my mind. What do you got to go that low for really? I don't think they treated her fairly. That's my opinion. And you know that I'm a conservative in many ways, in many of my views. But I tell it like it is, people. That's what you're going to get from me. I tell it like it is. And if I'm wrong and I find out I'm wrong, I'm going to admit it

[1:08:52] later on. That's the bottom line. So anyway, unbelievable what he had to say. What he had to say about I didn't realize this. It's a law that after 30 years you must release classified documents and it's been 62 years and they haven't released the Kennedy documents. I told you why. Because there's a lot more to it and it'll show the mob's involvement because the Warrant Commission lied about Jack Ruby's involvement with the mob. Absolutely lied. So much here. This government covers up

[1:09:22] so much, not only the current government, but our government, period. That's why I wrote the book, Mafia Democracy, because I've seen it and I've known it and I've experienced it. We're never going to get the truth, no matter what. No matter who's in office, no ma We're never going to get the truth about things that are really important. Not Epstein, not this war in Iran. We're never going to get the truth. Kennedy, none of that. Face the facts. Don't blame any particular guy. Yeah, they're

[1:09:54] all in the same boat when it comes to that. All right? That's just the system. It's the way it is. Is it right? No. Am I covering for anybody? No. Am I making excuses? No. I'm telling you, that's just the way it is. So, take it. But John, thank you so much for for uh sitting down with me. I mean, this this was great and explosive and you got me thinking to a point where I'm going to really study this and do some more research. I'd love to have him back on. There's so many other things I want to talk to him about and we will have him

[1:10:25] back on. My friends, how do I leave you same way? Never going to change. Be safe. Please, we got these terrorist cells in this country now. Who knows when we're going to have another, you know, incident. I hope never. But come on, be careful when you're out in public. Just be careful, people. Please be safe. be healthy. I don't have to go into that. You know what the deal is on that. And yes, God bless each and every one of you, your family, your friends, your neighborhood, your communities, and more than ever, God bless America, that we come out of this thing, all of these

[1:10:56] different issues, especially this war in Iran. Let's hope that we come out of this thing the right way for everybody involved, not so much the the uh the bad Iranian administration, but the Iranian people. Okay? And people, let me just put this out there right now for all you ridiculous, stupid comments. You know, I don't want to see any Palestinian you, you know, uh, people being killed. I don't want to see kids, women, children. I don't care who they are, what they are, where they are. I don't want to see

[1:11:26] it. So, when I say I care about the Iranian people, don't right away bring about the Palestinian people. Of course, I don't like that. And I've said it. We don't want to see any innocent people murdered. So, stop with the stupid comments. You're talking about Iranians, but you haven't said anything about, you know, the uh the killings in Palestine. Yes, I have. I don't want to see any innocent people die anywhere. Period. End of story. So, let's pray. Let's pray to God that he he gets some kind of, you know, peace in this world. Never going

[1:11:59] to happen. But maybe to a degree where at least people are surviving in the places where they're being, you know, murdered and just not treated fairly. Even Christians being martyed in in places all over the world. And you know, there are there are a lot of Christians in Iran. A lot of them. They're undercover because they get killed for it. The same way gays get killed for it. The same way women get and murdered. All right. All you people that are wanting this administration in there, same way. So, let's just pray that God shines a

[1:12:29] light on all of us. See you next time, my friends. Stay tuned.
