Title: Kiriakou Takes Ana & Cenk Behind the Curtain
Show: The Young Turks
Date: 2026-07-10
URL: https://youtu.be/OCtooapE9Ho
Duration: 155:00

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[04:00] >> [music] [music] >> Welcome to the Young Turks. Janker Anakasparing with you guys. Hell of a show for you guys tonight. uh really interesting developments that you uh might not have heard in the Graham

[04:31] Platner story and the Mitch McConnell story. Is he even alive? I mean, what an amazing uh circumstance that we find ourselves in where uh we can't trust anyone in government or anyone in media. And we have to wonder whether prominent senators are even alive. Okay. [laughter] And speaking of people who are alive or or not, uh unfortunately we do have tragic news in that the war has restarted. We're going to get to that in a second. But also on tonight's show, John Keryaku, former CIA officer, will join us. That should be a very

[05:02] interesting interview. He apparently thinks that I [snorts] hate him. Um, as far as I know, that's not true. So, buckle up. Fascinating uh interview today. How you feeling, Casper? >> I'm feeling okay. I'm feeling okay. It's my LA I have a little bit of senioritis, meaning it's my last day before I go away for a week. So, let's get the show on the road. >> Let's do it. You crazy. All right, let's go to the first story. So, what you're watching here is uh footage of US strikes uh on Iran that

[05:33] were carried out on July 8th. Uh by the time we're going live now, uh the US has struck Iran 170 times in the last uh two days. So, the war is definitively back on. Uh and Iran is also striking us in Jordan and uh many other countries where we have bases and uh of course uh the Israelis are thrilled about what's happening. More war. They're psyched that obviously it's a disaster for us Iran and the rest

[06:04] of the world. Anna has more facts. >> I sure do. And in fact, Israel isn't satisfied with simply going to war with Iran and having multiple theaters of war in the Middle East. Uh they're of course still talking about the likelihood of going to war against Turkey, but let's focus on Iran for the purposes of this discussion because there was some confusion today following strikes that were seen in Chabahar uh in southern Iran. And at

[06:35] first the thinking was, well, the United States has reignited this war, so those are US strikes. But it turns out that the United States came out and said, actually, no, those were not our strikes. Then Israeli media uh confirmed that these bombings were carried out by Kuwait and Bahrain, meaning that some of our uh Gulf allies have decided to retaliate against Iran, even though Iran has been striking US military bases inside these countries. There were also some strikes in Abbas, which is um the

[07:05] capital of Iran's oil producing province. And so the strikes that have been carried out by the United States this time around appear to be a little more strategic than the seemingly indiscriminate bombing the US was engaged in at the very beginning of this war. As for Israel, uh Drop Site News is reporting that Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said the war with Iran is quote not over. While Defense Minister Israel Katz said Israel is prepared to strike Iran again with even greater force if it deems it necessary.

[07:37] Kat said the Israeli military is prepared to resume fighting to regain air superiority and strike Iran again, including a third time if necessary, adding the campaign is not over. Now, uh, it's unclear if or more importantly when Iran will retaliate against Israel because Israel is the whole reason why this war started in the first place. But so far, it doesn't appear that uh Iran has taken any hits at at Israel. Now, US Central Command said late night on

[08:09] Wednesday that uh on Wednesday, they had struck about 90 military targets to further degrade Iran's ability to attack commercial shipping in the street of Hormuse. In fact, if you see the locations of the various US strikes, it's very clear that these strikes are intended to, you know, weaken Iran's capability in attacking commercial vessels. Iran's health ministry said at least 14 people were killed and almost 80 people were injured uh over the first two days of the US strikes. So, I'm sure

[08:39] that death toll is probably going to uh increase in the coming days. Now, Iran said that it did hit back with uh missile and drone strikes targeting US military bases in Kuwait, Bahrain, and Qatar. Iran says that the US targeted railway bridges um on the route to the holy city of Mashad where of course the late supreme leader was due to be buried buried and he did you know they did continue on after a short delay uh with

[09:09] the ceremonies. Uh but Iran's foreign ministry said that the attacks while Kam's 6-day funeral procession was underway signified Washington's inability to comprehend the depth of Iranians patriotism and loyalty to the revolution's ideals. And and I should just say I mean if anything what we have accomplished through this war jank is really getting the Iranians to rally around the flag because if you look at the footage of the various events having

[09:39] to do with Kam's uh funeral you'll notice that there are now tens of millions of people out on the streets. [snorts] Now, additionally, a railway bridge in the town of Akala in the northeastern Golastthan province was hit with cruise missiles, and that's according to Iran's revolutionary guards who said there were no casualties. The line plays an important role in transit and trade with uh central Asia and is part of an international corridor that links Iran, Turkmanistan, and

[10:10] Kazakhstan. So again kind of providing more reinforcement to the notion that the US is striking you know economic infrastructure and it does look like these strikes are more strategic. A tanbased businessman in fact told the Financial Times the following that the rail line had been used um while uh the US was engaging in blockades of Iranian ports. He said when the blockade was on people would use it yet it has very limited capacity. Each train uh from

[10:41] China uh Shien in China would only carry about 3,800 tons. But attacks were also reported on electricity infrastructure in Chabahar and uh Canar in southeast Iran causing three electricity transmission lines to go out of service and cutting off power to parts of the region. Now, um, if anyone is hoping that maybe things will kind of calm down a little bit and Trump will encourage, you know, peace negotiators to get back to negotiating, uh, Ben Shapiro is

[11:14] making clear that he is vehemently against it and in fact he thinks it makes us look weak if we are pursuing diplomatic means to end this war. He has a different idea in mind. Let's let's take a listen. >> So, what exactly could be done? Well, first, we could force open the straight. I know. We haven't even tried it. We didn't try it. We could do it. We could. If you think that the US military does not have contingency plans for opening the Straight of Hormuz along with our allies, you're out of your mind. We do. We just decided we didn't want to cuz we we got chicken with Saudi. And we were

[11:46] told by our magical negotiators that a deal was was in the offing, which was a lie. It wasn't true. And we could open the straight. We could destroy Kar Island, which is their oil export facility. We could destroy the South Ps gas field. We could basically put their economy on unsupportable legs. We could put the regime into its death rows. Those are all things that we could do. Or we could just walk away and let our allies do any or all of those things. We could do any of those things. But here's the thing we should not do. Demonstrate weakness by going back to

[12:16] the table and pretending once again that they are reasonable, rational people. In order to take control of the straight of Hormuse, we would need to dedicate I mean the troop commitment for that type of operation because it's not just about snatching control, it's about maintaining control and we do not have the troops necessary to make that happen. Additionally, uh Tom Nichols over at the Atlantic of all places, which shocked me, uh has the complete

[12:46] opposite take from Ben Shapiro. In fact, he writes uh that the president is still considering two terrible ideas. First, he has returned to talking about seizing Carg Island, an operation that would require a considerable commitment of ground forces and inevitably lead to US casualties. Second, he has again raised the possibility of striking Iran's infrastructure, including bridges and desalination plants. Such installations, he writes, if they are significantly

[13:17] contributing to Iran's military effort, might be considered legitimate targets. Trump, however, seems to have in mind emiserating the civilian population as a means of driving the regime to the table, which would be a serious violation of the laws of war. But the one thing I disagree with Nicholls on in this analysis, Jenk, is I don't think the US was ever serious about a peace deal. I think it was all lies. I think JD Vance, the vice president, was being honest when he said, you know, theou was

[13:48] really about getting the oil flowing again and basically preparing for more kinetic warfare against Iran. That's exactly what happened. That was the plan from the very beginning. There was never any real good faith effort at peace here. >> Yeah. So, uh, first let's start with Israel first and Ben Shapiro. Um, so of course, what does he want? more war. Uh, and who does he want it from? Us. So, I I don't know if these uh people are still even bothering to pretend to be

[14:20] Americans or care about American interests. So, that whole segment of course was you have to do what Israel wants and Israel always wants more war. But of course, we are the victims and we are doing self-defense. What does Iran have to do with self-defense? Nothing. It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. The Israelis have ordered war and we have more war. And every time in the media they will tell you, "Oh, it's just a coincidence. Just a total and utter coincidence that we do exactly what Israel wants nearly 100% of the

[14:50] time." Oh, hey, look, it's 98%. We sold some planes to Turkey that they didn't want. Oh, see that? You have 2% freedom left. Congratulations Americans. [snorts] Uh, but of course, no one else points out that Ben Shapiro, Mark Levin, Laura Loomer never argue for American interests. They always pretend that American interests are identical to Israel's interests. Very coincidentally, no two allies have identical interests. And Israel and America have nothing uh that is similar here. We don't like Hamas and Hezbollah. I I hate to break it to American media who think Hamas and

[15:21] Hezbollah are the biggest problems America faces. They're not anywhere near us. And outside of Israel, they're not even our enemies. They have no reason to be our enemies other than no, you must all do everything ISRAEL COMMANDS YOU TO DO. ATTACK your neighbors. Attack their enemies. No. No. Israel's not Uncle Sam. And they God damn it, man. So anyway, so now we're [snorts] back into this disastrous war. Of course, the question that Ann asked is the one that everybody's asking, which is, is this,

[15:51] you know, uh, back to war permanently or is this another one of these flare ups? And then we go back to pretending there's a ceasefire, more flare-ups, and it goes on and on and on and and to what end, right? [snorts] So, if we want to deal with the Iranians, we already have the outline for a deal. Just do the damn deal. Do the damn deal. Right? But no, no, no, no. Must must obey. Must kneel to a foreign government. So, uh, in this case, there's two different issues. One is the Omani route, and that's the route

[16:21] that some of the ships were taking that Iran has not authorized. So, Iran hits them on the Omani route. I I don't know if they should have hit them or not hit them, that's not my business. Okay? And so, if you want to be pissed about that and say that's a violation of the ceasefire, fine. At the same time, uh, we we have been violating the ceasefire non-stop because part of theou is that Israel must withdraw from Lebanon. And Israel has already said, "We're never going to do that. We're going to steal southern Lebanon for greater Israel." Right? So, and if you think I'm

[16:52] exaggerating, no. Israel cats many other uh ministers in their cabinet and in Netanyahu said they are not withdrawing. They're not going to withdraw during the so-called ceasefire. They're not going to withdraw afterwards. And very very very likely based on their statements, they are never going to withdraw because this is all about land expansion for an obviously fascist empire in the middle of the Middle East with weapons of mass destruction that is a huge danger to the world. But this time we're on the fascist side. And it breaks my heart as an American. We should not be on the

[17:23] side of darkness and the ones that are invading and attacking all of their neighbors and taking their land. So, but we have to do all their dirty work for them because everybody in Washington says if you don't serve Israel, you're an anti-semite and you should your life should be destroyed and pulverized. So, now uh we've got more people involved in this war. You know, they hit the northern railways. So, there's a couple possibilities as to why it hit the northern railways. One is the economic reasons. The other is well, the funeral procession was going to go in that area

[17:54] and a lot of the other countries in the Gulf are Sunni and Iran is Shiite. So maybe they want to send a message, oh yeah, we don't respect your grand Ayatollah. That's the head of the Shiite uh sect of of Islam. Shiites and Sunnis have been fighting for literally over a thousand years. So uh so that could have something to do with it. Uh but overall uh we're right back in the soup, right back in the mess. 170 bombs is an bombing runs is an enormous amount. That is not a slight tweak. And so is this

[18:25] just about the Omani route? And hey, we get a little bit back and forth and then cool down for a minute. I mean, I hope so, but it doesn't look like it because this is not like the other bombings during the ceasefires. The other bombings would be two, three, four bombs, send a message both Iran and the US. Iran did the same thing here. Try to send a message, two, three bombs in the Omani route uh on ships. And America said no, 170, right? Let alone uh the Kuwait, Bahrain, and whoever else bombed northern Iran. So right now it looks

[18:57] like full-scale war. Uh you know Trump is of course a maniac. So he says two different things at all times. He said the ceasefire is over and and you know we're back to war. And then today he said oh the Iranians called and they're begging uh to go back to a ceasefire of that's a total lie. It's corroborated by zero people. Total imagination fantasy of a borderline lunatic that's our president. So, is are is the ceasefire over or are we about to go back in the

[19:27] ceasefire? Well, Trump tells you both things. That's obviously impossible. And again, he's a raving madman. So, we have a raving mad man who listens to a fascist government and none of these people care 1% about American interests. So, likely you'll all be forced back into the war and all the terrible consequences that flow from that. And then later, they'll pretend that it had nothing to do with Israel and oh golly gee, you know, it's just a coincidence. that we follow their orders every single goddamn time. >> Okay, so a little bit of um background

[19:58] info that I think is really relevant to kind of figure out what's going on right now. Uh the war is on and anyone who's trying to downplay it by calling it a military operation or pretending like we still have a ceasefire is delusional. Like I'm I'm I think that we have degraded like people's minds in this country have been degraded because we've redefined what it means to be in war. What we're experiencing right now is a war. Okay. Iran did not violate anyou.

[20:29] Okay. They just they didn't theou makes clear that they will maintain control of the straight of formoose. Uh the United States was trying to do some tricky pizzazziki nonsense of having ships transit through uh the straight on the Omani side in order to basically ensure that Iran cannot establish uh the approved routes uh for these ships to travel through. And look, here's the thing. Trump wants the war to end, but

[20:59] he doesn't want to accept the fact that the United States lost. This was a dumb war, which is why every previous administration that was being pressured by Netanyahu to enter this war refused to do so. Every other administration was intelligent enough, and we don't have a lot of intelligent administrations in this country. Let's just keep it 100. But they were smart enough to know if we attack Iran, this is a country that has a far more superior military capability than Iraq did. the land mass is larger,

[21:30] the terrain is more challenging, and they're going to shut down the straight of Hormuz. We're not going to do it. But Trump was stupid enough to do it now. Why? Well, because he has morons in his ear who play him like a fiddle. And so, Alex Ward uh over on X reported the following. Israel shared new intelligence with the US that it said indicated a fresh Iranian plan to kill President Trump. people familiar with the matter said Iran for years has vowed openly to retaliate against Trump for

[22:00] the assassination of Kasumsulammani. So basically you have the Israelis in Trump's ear and Netanyahu has done this before. You know he did a press tour where he purported that the Iranians have a an active plot to assassinate Trump. Well, he was just in Trump's ear again. And this is what happens with Trump. He makes decisions on the fly. He's unhinged and now we find ourselves in another war or the war reigniting and the global economy is going to

[22:31] crash. Jenk, like that's the big issue here. Okay. The Iranians, they win simply by surviving and time is on their side. Everyone knows that the longer this war goes on, the longer the straight of Hormuse is closed, the the worse it's going to be for the global economy. >> Yeah. And again, you don't just snap your fingers and it happens. Let's say the war ends today. It's still going to take months for things to normalize in the straight, which is why it was so incredibly

[23:02] important to end the war immediately. But no, we're back on. And so Israel, you're right, ecstatic. They've been wanting this. Uh but the global community is going to be furious with Israel because everyone knows that this war began thanks to Israel. And uh what what's Israel going to do? Oh, you guys are just a bunch of Jew haters. It's not that we've like destroyed the world with our blood lust and absolute, you know, desire for endless conflict. >> Yeah. So, look, uh I'm done trying to

[23:33] prevent it. Uh I tried my hardest. We all tried our hardest. uh and before the first war, before the second war, before the reigniting the third uh you know portion of the war. Uh but Israel totally controls Washington. Uh so there's nothing we could do, guys. It doesn't matter if even if you all voted against incumbents tomorrow, there's not enough primaries left. They'd beat Thomas Massie. So that means that the Republicans 100% serve Israel. the

[24:03] Democrats are now panicking a little bit because they're beginning to lose their elections uh for serving Israel. Uh but it's too late. Uh you know, whatever the consequences are going to be, they're going it's going to happen. And uh you know, so just we're occupied and that's why we're being forced into this war. And they could cry about it all day long. I don't care about them at all. Everybody in Washington is a bunch of liars uh that constantly try to manipulate you into believing that we're not occupied by Israel when it's the most obvious fact in the world. And and

[24:35] what are the consequences that's going to happen to Anna's point is that yeah, our media can keep trying to brainwash people like a bunch of obvious like propagandists, but our cable news doesn't go to the rest of the world and the rest of the world can see things super clearly. Yeah, there's tons of Israeli propaganda in some of the European countries and Western countries as well. Uh but it's not as thick as it is here and in the rest of the world, it barely exists. So no, everybody knows this war is 100% for

[25:06] Israel. The only people that don't uh believe that are people who are brainwashed by our Israeli media in this country pretending to be American media. So um so they're all going to be furious at Israel because the economy is going to suffer terribly through this war. And so let's see where the consequences wind up. And I hate it. I don't want it. I don't want there to be any consequences. I don't want there to be any war. But it's baked in now. It's it's over. And so, um, and should you be mad at the people who brought you this war?

[25:37] Obviously. And then they say, I've now started seeing on social media, Jenk, you can't say that the war's consequences should be laid at the feet of the people who started the war. So, they know terrible consequences are coming and they don't want it blamed on the people who started, who started it. American politicians who are disgustingly corrupt and are traitors to this country. disgustingly corrupt American media who's always, "Oh, we'll learn our lessons from Iraq. Oh, yeah, but not fake weapon of mass destruction." Right. Back to fake

[26:08] weapons of mass destruction. Uh serving Israel, not having learned. There's no lessons to learn. They're corrupt. They work for a different country. It's so obvious if you're not hypnotized and brainwashed by American I'm/Israeli uh media. And so, uh yeah. and of course Israel. It is definitely definitely their fault. And when the economy goes south and when we have more Americans returning in coffins, yes, you should definitely be furious at the Israeli

[26:40] government. They are not our allies. I believe they are our enemies that have decided that they are going to take every dollar and every part of our military and and they don't care about our interests at all. But that's why I'm more angry at American politicians and media because they're supposed to look out for their own country. Yeah, they're a fascist warongering country that is totally out of control and an obvious pariah state who have brutalized in a disgustingly fascist way the

[27:12] Palestinians for the last 58 years as every liar in American/Israel media here in America has told you that the Palestinians are the terrorists. No, the Israelis are the terrorists that are terrorizing the entire planet. And they brought you this war and when this war goes disastrously, yes, YOU SHOULD BE FURIOUS at Israel. Oh, and then they'll say, "Oh, just because we murdered all these people and started terrible wars that destroyed your life, how dare you CRITICIZE US."

[31:57] >> Edit. >> Okay, this is the moment. Take a look. >> Hassan Piker's mother mother's maiden name is Weaguer. And I wondered if he was related to Chen Weaguer. Michael Gardner's telling us that he's Chen Wager's nephew. It's funny. Chank Wager has never really been a friend of mine either. The second thing I ever did that got wide press coverage after blowing the whistle. Um it was my it was my open letter to uh to my supporters from prison. That became my first letter from Lorettto. That's when Jake Tapper came

[32:27] to uh to the prison to interview me. Uh the the the response was universally positive and interested except for Chank Wiger. Chen Wiguer just for 30 minutes just ripped me. >> And I never understood that because back then, you know, I I probably agreed on 95% of the issues with Chen Weaguer. Like, why is he attacking me like this? But it's just his >> I I've never been able to draw a bead on

[32:58] on Chen Weaguer. I mean, I wanted to I I kind of felt like I should have been friends with him. He's one of those guys. It's like an unrequited romance where you're sort of like you reach out, you're like, "We should be buds. We agree about a lot of stuff and then you know they never call, they never write. >> Well, it could be required now. So, John, what in the world [laughter] was that? >> I don't know. >> No, it was a mistaken identity thing because I became obsessed with figuring out what it was and I went through our archives and no such thing exists. So,

[33:29] it must have been a mistaken identity and maybe there is a a chank weaguer out there somewhere who did attack you. >> Yeah. [laughter] I I I want to apologize for that because I think I must have been temporarily insane or something. That had to be that's what I'm going with. >> Yeah. Yeah. No, no, don't sweat it. It mistaken identity. No big deal. Okay, let's get to serious stuff. So, look, John, the main thing that I've been wanting to ask you for a long time is, do we even have a CIA? Um, so what I mean by that is the CIA uh seems to let

[34:01] Israel run wild inside this country. And so espionage to no end stole our nuclear secrets, our uranium, our nuclear triggers, all of our top secrets. And yet we're like, "Oh, they're our best allies." And we let them run. And and in fact, one more, you know, Epstein was part of uh Iran Contra. And so it's not like the CIA is not aware of what's happening here. And so does it exist or is it just simply the MSAD? You know, it's it's changed a lot over

[34:33] the years in that when I first joined the CIA, we did not like the Israelis at all. They were spying on us. They made it clear. They openly spied on us. They would bring us gifts that had listening devices embedded in them to the point where they were not allowed in the building. we had to rent space to do our liaison meetings with them because they just simply were not permitted to come into the headquarters building. Well,

[35:05] that that was what 35 years ago. And now all of a sudden they're being like embedded with the CIA that there's a provision in the National Defense Authorization Act for 2027 that colllocates them with the the Pentagon and then allows even closer like five eyes style liaison with um with the CIA. And then at the same time, just two weeks ago, NBC News reported that the director of DIA, the Defense

[35:36] Intelligence Agency, had to send out an all hands email saying that the Israelis are being unusually aggressive right now in trying to recruit assets inside DIA, that all DIA employees need to be extra careful. So, what are we doing here? either either the Israelis are ranked as critical threat for counter intelligence, which is what they were when I was there, along with the Russians, the Chinese, the Cubans, and

[36:07] the North Koreans, or were joined at the hip. But it can't be both. >> So, here's my follow-up question for for you on everything that you just said. What changed? Is it blackmail? like how did our government and and not just the CIA, how did our government go from understanding the risks of being associated with the Israelis, understanding that they spy on us, understanding that while we may say that they're our allies, in reality they act like they're our adversaries. So,

[36:40] >> what changed? >> Do they have dirt on powerful people in our government? Or I mean, I'm asking you to speculate or maybe you know something we don't know. >> Yeah. No, they they probably do, but I think it's I think it's broader and more nefarious than that in that this is really a political change. You know, the the last any Arab leader will tell you and and many have told me or I've been in the room when they've told the American ambassador, the last American president to give the Arabs a fair shake was George HW Bush. The last one. They

[37:12] loved George HW Bush. They loved Kennedy and they loved Eisenhower. and everybody else has been a Zionist in terms of policy. Well, we've had a string of Zionist [clears throat] presidents and they just keep the the Israelis keep chipping away little by little by little, not just in the White House, but on Capitol Hill through Apac and they've gotten us to the point where if you disagree not just with Israeli policy, if you disagree with Benjamin Netanyahu as a person, you are labeled

[37:44] as anti-Semitic. of course took them decades to get to that point, but they did it. >> Yeah. So, John, more follow-ups here. So, first of all, on your point about disagreeing with Netanyahu, uh, only a third of Jewish Americans agree with Netanyahu. Twothirds are against them. So, apparently twothirds of Jews in America are anti-Semitic by this ludicrous definition. Ludicrous. And it's obvious. >> Can I add something to that? >> Yeah. because of the party system in uh in Israel, Benjamin Netanyahu has never won more than 27% of the vote in Israel.

[38:17] So, are we supposed to assume then that 73% of Israelis are anti-Semitic? >> Yeah, >> it's outrageous. >> Uh yes, and I could list other uh historic leaders that did not win a majority, but one around that number and then went on to do great damage. Uh so, okay. Now, our press uh I believe is mainly is Israeli propaganda. Why do I say that? Cuz they keep telling us that things are normal. So, I just want to do a quick checklist with you to see if these things are normal. So, >> they keep saying, "Oh, your our allies

[38:48] doing espionage to the point where they are stealing our the most sensitive technology and intelligence and using it to build weapons of mass destruction and doing it over and over and over again is perfectly normal. Is that really normal?" No, of course not. And if it was any other country in the world, we would be on the brink of war with them right now. >> I mean, forget allies, we'd be on the brink of war with them. Okay. So then number two, they say, "Oh, to merge our militaries, as you were talking about section 219 and the technology and so

[39:20] that they could take one now soon to be $1.5 trillion of money we're spending on defense, and they get the entire benefit of that for free." They say that's all perfectly normal. We constantly are merging our militaries with allies. Is that normal? >> We're merging our militaries with the closest allies that we have in the world. Very specifically the British, the Canadians, the Australians, and the New Zealanders. You know, we've got good relations with the rest of the the

[39:51] members of NATO, as one example. Israel is not in NATO. We have close relations with most European Union countries. Israel is not a member of the European Union. And then just a couple of weeks ago, the Israeli Defense Minister said publicly in a in an interview that Israel's next war would be against Turkey. Well, guess what? Turkeykey's a member of NATO. And if there were to be hostilities between Israel and Turkey, and Turkey invoked Article 5 of the of

[40:21] the NATO charter, an attack on one is an attack on all. the United States would have to go to war with Israel to defend Turkey. Is the United States going to go to war with Israel? Of course not. And so what happens? The Israelis then successfully destroy NATO. Is that really the the road we want to go down? >> Not normal. Last one. Last one. Go. Go ahead. Yeah. So, uh, dozens of Israeli spies were arrested after 9/11. I'm not asking about why they were arrested or what they did, but they were arrested

[40:51] and they were definitively Israeli spies. And then we just let them go free. Yes. Is that normal? >> Yes, >> that actually is normal. >> Nor normal. Normally if let's say an American spy gets caught in a friendly country, you know, publicly we deny deny deny that this person is a spy. We deny and then secretly quietly we go to the the station chief will go to the head of the service and say, "Listen, he's my guy. You busted us. Do me a favor here and just let him go." and then quietly

[41:23] they'll let him go. They may make him cool his heels for a week or two, but eventually they're going to let him go. The reason why I I'm speculating here. I believe that the reason why there were so many Israeli spies arrested in New York in the days after 9/11 is that the Israelis had advanced warning of 9/11 and didn't tell us. And that was a policy decision. We asked every ally in the world. We begged them if they had any sources inside al-Qaeda, please help

[41:56] us because we knew this massive attack was coming, but we didn't know when and where. We knew it was going to be giant. We just didn't know when and where. I believe that the Israelis did know that they had infiltrated al-Qaeda, but they didn't tell us because they wanted us to attack al-Qaeda. They knew that if we were attacked that we would overreact like we did. We would launch a war that lasted 20 years. We would kill 2 million

[42:26] Muslims, which we did, and spend something like $6 something trillion dollar on national defense. You know, just like they knew chaos in Iraq was good for Israel, chaos in Libya was good for Israel, chaos in Syria was good for Israel, and now chaos in Iran is good for Israel. It hasn't changed since 9/11. >> Cancer on our globe. Honestly, I it's So, you just said something very provocative. Uh something that I alluded

[42:58] to in one post on X once. Uh and I didn't even allude to it as aggressively as you just did. I just noted the, you know, five Israelis who got arrested because they were seen celebrating the World Trade Center getting attacked. Um, and I was like, whatever happened with this? Like, what is this? And there is evidence that the Israelis had fornowledge. So, can you can you get into that a little bit because I think it's important for members of our audience who might not know what that evidence is and why so many people um have believed that the Israelis had

[43:29] fornowledge. >> Yeah. Dozens of Israelis were were Israeli citizens were arrested uh by NYPD officers on September 11th and in the days after September 11th, mostly for photography, for taking pictures of sensitive sites, taking pictures of the uh World Trade Center, things like that, or making comments uh about the the attacks. And so they were picked up and they were held on suspicion of, you know, something national security

[44:01] related. And finally the Israelis came to us and said, "Listen, these are our guys. Just let them go." Right? They're they're worried about you. They were worried about the World Trade Center. They didn't mean any harm. I think they were there just to sort of document what was happening because they knew it was going to happen. Um, in in the months before 9/11 >> Mhm. >> I I was working in the CIA's counterterrorism center at the time and um in the months before 9/11, the

[44:34] leadership of the counterterrorism center was scrambling. Uh I happened to be entertaining a group of Middle Eastern intelligence officers one day. It was July the 6th, 2001, and Kofheer Black, the director of the counterterrorism center, came into my my meeting, shocked me. I jumped up at attention and I said, "Oh, gentlemen, this is Kofer Black. He's the director of the CIA's counterterrorism center." And Kofer minced no words. He said, "Something terrible is going to happen.

[45:04] We don't know what. We don't know where. We don't know when, but we know it's going to be an attack on a massive scale." And he went into some detail with them and he said at the end of his little talk, I'm begging you. He said, if you have any sources inside al-Qaeda, please help us. Well, the truth was we didn't have any sources inside al-Qaeda. And that's why we needed help from liaison. But they didn't. The other Arab countries didn't. The Gulf countries didn't. The Pakistanis either didn't or

[45:36] wouldn't tell us. And the Israelis just sat back and waited for it all to happen and then came and said, "We are one with you, America. We are with you." Well, they knew exactly what was going to happen. Yeah. >> And then eight years later, uh, under Obama, we began arming al-Qaeda terrorists in Syria. >> That's exactly right. >> Yeah, >> that's exactly right. >> So, John, I just want to ask one more followup about that because uh, so I call this oops, it got past the goalie, right? So, and and

[46:07] I like of course our press never talks about it. They all pretended everything is a conspiracy theory. Uh I believe that the phrase conspiracy theory was actually concocted after the Kennedy shooting to just call everything that was that against the official government position a crazy lunatic thing to believe. Uh etc. But okay. So, but I could never square. Well, you know, if there was a conspiracy and there was did they really kill all the people on the planes and how did they get the Arabs to

[46:38] do the thing that they wanted? Blah blah blah. And then uh many many many years later uh in fact after October 7th I realized, oh, you know, this is actually potentially easier than I realized. You just find plots and you probably in intelligence and that's why I'm asking you find plots all the time. And if you want one of them to be successful for political reasons, you go, "Oh, I just got past the goalie. There's nothing I could do." So, is it possible that October 7th was another one of those? >> Oh, listen. Call me a conspiracy

[47:09] theorist, but I think that's exactly what happened. We know now in retrospect that for 2 weeks before October 7th, Israelis who were living in settlements along the the line, the border with Gaza were reporting back to uh the Ministry of uh national security that something was happening in Gaza. And Idomar Bengavir said, "No, nothing is happening in Gaza. The next attack is going to be in the West Bank." And it was Idomar

[47:40] Bengavir who ordered that government um uh what's the word I want to use that that assets were being used government assets were being used against you know possible cells in the West Bank. Well, there was nothing happening in the West Bank, >> right? >> And and these settlers were saying, "Look, you know, the the the Gaza Palestinians are flying kites along the border. They're releasing balloons. They're checking wind speeds. their their chatter uh on the walkie-talkies.

[48:12] No, you're wrong. It's going to be in the West Bank. So, I think boy, I really like that, you know, slip by the goalie. I think I might steal that because I think that is exactly what happened. >> Yeah. I mean, and the fact that it took six hours for the IDF to respond. And you know, just fast forwarding to the moment that we're in now, I just can't get over the incredibly weak and pathetic arguments that are being made by individuals who have been corrupted with money from the Israel lobby,

[48:43] essentially arguing that we must merge our militaries because the IDF, I mean, how could we give up this opportunity uh to take advantage of their expertise and their superior operations? They took six hours to respond to October 7th >> and then killed the Israelis >> and then killed their ownact that were in cars trying to evacuate the area. Yeah. You know, one one thing that that most mainstream outlets don't talk about is that the Israelis are already in the

[49:14] United States training local police departments. We know, for example, that the Israelis are training the Atlanta police. that this area now called Cop City is the site of Israeli police and Israeli IDF training our own police. I don't want the Israelis training American police departments. The Israelis have no respect for human rights or civil rights or civil liberties. And so, look, this is a country that has that has bombed seven

[49:44] of its neighbors in the past year. >> Is that really the country that we want to throw our lot in with? I would say no. [clears throat] >> So, John, uh, Pete Hexath wrote in his book that the IDF should be in American streets. So, there's so many Israeli assets inside our, uh, government that it's unbelievable. So, okay, which brings me back to section 219. So, you mentioned it earlier. It used to be called section 224, now it's 219 going into the National Defense Authorization Act. They tried it with no vote before. Now, there's more of a, you know,

[50:15] uprising against it. Of course, as usual, Roana, Tom Massie leading the charge against it. And as usual, uh, 94% of Congress saying, "No, no, no, no. We serve Israel loyally." So, tell tell us about the dangers of merging our technology with with Israel's and why this should be completely unacceptable to the American people. >> You know what, Chank? I'll start I'll start back from my very first week in the CIA, January of 1990. uh that first week you just sit in the auditorium and

[50:45] you get briefing after briefing after briefing from you know the director comes and congratulates you. Then you hear from the head of HR and the head of health insurance and the head of life insurance and the director of security and the director of security gave us a couple of you know kind of real life day-to-day pointers. don't ever eat in this steakhouse down the street from the CIA because the KGB thinks we all eat there and every table is taken by the KGB, for example. I've never been in there. But another thing he said, um,

[51:17] and this is dated, it's 1990, but I would venture to say that it's worse today than it was in 1990. He said that there were two official Israeli intelligence representatives in Washington. This was at the Israeli embassy in Washington. It was uh one person from Assad and one person from Shinbet. Okay. And they carry out liaison. But the FBI was able to identify 187 Israeli spies spread out all across

[51:47] America, mostly infiltrating American defense contractors to steal our secrets. It didn't end with the arrest of Jonathan Pard. and he said Israel is critical threat for counter inelligence along with Russia, China, Cuba and North Korea. And I think Iran may have been on the list at the time too. Um, and Israel. And I'll give you another example. When we came up with this ill-advised F-35,

[52:18] the Israelis came to us first and said, "We want the F-35." And we said, "Great. We're going to give you the F35. We're going to slightly degrade the avionics because, god forbid one gets shot down and the Russians or the Chinese, you know, get it in Syria or Iran or whatever. So, we're going to call it the F-35I. I I for Israel. The Israelis said, "No, we want your F-35. We don't want any I with degraded avionics." At the same time, the Emiratis came to us and they said, "We want this new F-35."

[52:48] And we said, "Great. will give you the F-35 with slightly degraded avionics because, god forbid, one should be shot down and the Russians or the Chinese, the Iranians get it. We're going to call it the F-35E for Emirates. The Emirates gladly took the F-35E. The Israelis sent their spies all over the defense sector to steal the avionics so that when they finally got the F-35i, they could upgrade them on their own. And that's the country that we want side by side with our people in the Pentagon

[53:20] and the CIA and god forbid NSA or DIA when the director of DIA is warning every single employee that they are unusually aggressive against us right now, the Israeli Mossad. >> Yeah. >> And that people have to be extra careful. >> So that brings me back to the what we started with, John, which is I I is the CIA still American? uh because they don't act like it. And and so all this espionage is going on. It's super obvious that it's the Israelis and it

[53:51] doesn't seem like we're doing a damn thing about it. We're just letting them run wild in this country. And I want to go back to to Epstein because we know that Epstein was part of Iran Contra. He helped clean seemingly with MSAD. And let let's you know, I'll let you talk about what you know how much you know about that, right? But but also Okay. So the CIA at that moment knows Epstein seems to be with Israeli intelligence because we just did a deal with him. We just did a deal with him. Then they let Epstein rape girls in this country for

[54:23] decades afterwards. So is the CIA working for America or for Israel? >> You know, I hate to say this, but I the only conclusion that I can draw is that it's working for Israel. You know, when you've got the likes of Mike Pompeo at the CIA who was one of the the foremost Zionists on Capitol Hill. Um, and he and he's guiding policy. Remember, the CIA is a policy support organization. It's

[54:53] not a policy organization. It's supposed to do what the president tells it to do. But historically, it had pushed back against Israel. And then you get Mike Pompeo in there who might as well be the head of Mossad for for his uh support of Israel, everything begins to change. And when and when you have this constant pressure from Capitol Hill where practically everybody is taking money from Apac and um and and are they're primared if

[55:23] they don't take money from Apac or if they don't tow the line that Apac sets then you know you lose that independence and the next thing you know you are working for the Israelis. Oh >> god. So how do you see this ending? Because we don't live in a sovereign country under what you just described. we don't live in a sovereign country and um it fills me with rage and I imagine it fills a lot of Americans with rage. So how does this come to an end? >> Because eventually American citizens are

[55:54] going to have enough of this. >> Yeah. >> Um so how do you see this playing out? >> In one of two ways really. On the one hand, I I've long been accused of being irrationally optimistic about life, and the the optimist in me says, "Well, certainly our elected leaders will come to their senses eventually." But I've got to be realistic. And I I just don't think that's going to happen. >> I don't think that they'll come to their senses because well, for a couple of

[56:25] reasons. Number one, because if you look at the incremental change over the LA or changes over the last 35 years, every one of those changes has been in support of Israel. >> Yep. >> Number one. Number two, even though public opinion polls are showing that now a clear majority of Americans uh believe that our relationship with Israel is too close, believe that Israel is committing a genocide in in Gaza, believe that Israel is the aggressor uh in in all of these

[56:56] recent conflicts, our elected officials still line right up in support of Israel. And you've got people like Thomas Massie and Ro Kana and a small handful of others, Marjgerie Taylor Green who's now gone, but a small number willing to stand up, that number doesn't really grow. So even if let's say 77% of Democrats pled say they support the Palestinian side in this conflict, 90% of elected Democrats support the

[57:28] Israelis. And where does that leave us? That leaves us in a place where we don't have a democracy. >> Yeah, we are an occupied country. So, okay, I now have a random question for you that I've been meaning to ask for a long time. So, I want to make sure I get it in here. So, uh Barack Obama did something unacceptable uh when he bombed Anoir Alaki. Uh he he went outside of the judiciary and he said due process does not have to be judicial process. the executive branch can just decide to

[57:59] execute an American citizen. Uh, and they did. But that was already egregious enough, but they say coincidentally in a second and completely different bombing, they also killed Alby's 16-year-old son. And then coincidentally in a third bombing, they killed his 8-year-old daughter. So, were those coincidences or I have a theory on this one. I'm curious what you think that maybe Anoir Albaki was working with the CIA, but then he

[58:30] flipped on him and so he knew things that the CIA didn't want out and so they were wanted to cover all their bases on anyone who might have known. I think that's entirely plausible. I'll tell you, I was one of a very small handful of CIA officers who had actually met Anoir Alaki. I met him when he was the imam of the of the mosque in false church, Virginia. My Arabic teacher, uh

[59:01] CIA employee, Arabic teacher took us there uh so we could learn some of the uh the vocabulary words associated with Islam. And um he gave us a tour of the mosque. He took us to the uh Arabic language bookstore and then we went to lunch with him. In 2011, I went to Yemen to do a study. I was the senior investigator on the Senate Foreign Relations Committee at the time working for John Kerry. And I went to Yemen and my first meeting on that trip was with

[59:32] the uh the legal attaches, the FBI representative in the American embassy. And I made a joke about, you know, what are you doing sitting here in your office? You should be out looking for Anoir Alaki. And he said, "We know where Anoir Alaki is within 3 ft 24 hours a day." And I stupidly said, "So why don't you arrest him?" >> Mhm. >> Well, because there was never any intention of of arresting him.

[1:00:04] >> The intent was to to kill him, to track him, and to kill him. That was a policy decision that was made. But why did we let him go as far as he did? I think you're on to something here. I think he was probably a CIA asset at one time. Remember, he was an American citizen. He was born in Albuquerque, New Mexico. His father was the Yemen ambassador to the United States at the time and and then went on to become the Yemen Minister of

[1:00:34] Agriculture. And um and I think that he self-radicalized after a while and they just decided to take him out at a time and place of their choosing. May I add one other thing, Ch? You raised something that's very important. It's something I've been yelling about for years. We murdered him without ever charging him with a crime. >> He had a constitutional right to face his accusers in a court of law and to be judged by a jury of his peers. And we murdered him in cold blood. He had never

[1:01:05] been charged with a crime. But then a week later, we murdered his 16-year-old son and 16-year-old nephew as they sat at a cafe drinking tea. They were children and they had never been charged with any crime. And then we murdered his daughter just for good measure, an 8-year-old, which made Obama a child killer. Of course, he already was a child killer, but made him a child killer again. And nobody really seems to care. What about his rights? Because remember what Eric Holder told Ran Paul.

[1:01:37] If the president wants to kill you, he's perfectly within his legal rights to kill you. And it doesn't matter if you have never been charged with a crime. If the president of the United States doesn't like your politics, he can make you vapor with a missile. >> Yeah. >> We're in super dark times here. Uh I'm so we got to go. But John, uh, am I right that your background is Greek originally? >> Yes, sir. >> Okay. But I want to end, you know, you

[1:02:08] say you're an optimist. I'm an optimist. Uh, the one beautiful thing about this country is here's a Turk, a Greek, and an Armenian. All fighting, >> right? [laughter] >> And by the way, this is really important. All >> John, I got your back. all all Americans and all fighting not for Turkey, Greece or Armenia, but for America as it's supposed [clears throat] to be. And and so, >> you know, we we love this country and we want its sovereignty and its freedom back. So, thank you for joining us, John. Really appreciate it.

[1:02:38] >> Thank you so much for the invitation. It was a pleasure. >> Come back soon. >> I look forward to it. >> All right. Okay, guys. When we come back, uh uh is Mitch McConnell dead? [laughter] Our mainstream media won't tell the truth about anything. So, we've got to dig and dig to find out why won't they have an election and what actually happened with the Grand Platner story. So, a lot more. Come right back. >> Are you still talking about Jeffrey

[1:03:10] Epstein? >> Rich and powerful men abusing, assaulting, and abandoning young women. These rich and powerful men donate to the politicians in Washington DC, play golf with the elites in Washington DC. They are foreign leaders who we don't want to offend. They interact with our intelligence agencies that we don't want to disobey. There is something [music] rotten in Washington. >> And are people still talking about this guy, this creep? >> All those congressmen you just saw there are on the record as protecting the

[1:03:41] child rapists who were clients of Epstein. They have not prosecuted a single person outside of Epstein and Maxwell. >> Yep. >> Not one. >> Is Trump engaging in this cover up because he's in the Epstein files? >> I don't understand why the Jeffrey Epste would be of interest to anybody. It's pretty boring stuff. >> So, as the government keeps telling us, yeah, there's other people. Yeah, they raped those girls. So what? We're going to cover up for them. Why are you guys so mad? A nation that chooses impunity

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[1:04:41] you do, you're not really a reporter or a journalist because reporters and journalists don't care what happens. I don't agree. That's not written anywhere. That's not a law. It's just a rule that they invented so that reporters didn't actually challenge the people that are in power. Well, we don't agree with that. We think we should challenge the people in power. That that's actually [music] makes you a better journalist, not a worse one. Who do you guys use? >> We have AT&T.

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[1:08:19] >> it can't be made. And for that reason, we are suspending campaign operations. That was Graham Platner suspending his campaign in Maine. But did he uh because there's a big question as to whether his name is going to stay on the ballot or not. Uh and what actually happened with Graham Platner. You're going to hear some developments here that you probably

[1:08:49] have not heard elsewhere that are an amazing and important additions to the latest story about Graham Platner. And then what in the world are we going to do next? So a lot to discuss here. Anna, tell us all about it. >> Yes. Well, uh, for those who might have missed the story, uh, let me just give you a little context and I'll give you the latest developments. Now, his decision to drop out of the race, of course, has to do with the Politico article that came out recently where a woman by the name of Jenny Rascott had

[1:09:20] accused Platner of forcibly raping her in her own home. Now the political piece omitted some details and uh apparently there's this uh assumption that the American people don't need to know about certain details. You know that Politico gets to decide which text exchanges they share with us and we'll get to that in just a minute. But the way the piece was written made it seem as though uh or made the reader believe that you know Platner like broke into her home and then forcibly raped her. The

[1:09:52] allegations, in my opinion, and not even in my opinion, based on what we have in front of us, lack concrete evidence that he carried out a serious crime of rape. Uh, Barasicott had deleted all communications that she had with Platner in the wake of the alleged assault. Politico cites the following as corroborating evidence. uh Facebook messages that she shared with a friend where Razakott uh describes Platner as consensually careless and then proceeds to spend most of her time complaining

[1:10:22] about how she thinks she he might have slept with a lot of women. Uh a disclosure to another friend whom she spoke to about the incident at the start of Platner's campaign, a man that she dated after Platner who said that she had divulged uh bits and pieces of what had allegedly happened. Um, and then it wasn't until 2023 when she disclosed the whole story and recent emails between herself and her therapist where she contemplated going to the

[1:10:53] press about the incident to which the therapist, who opted out of providing a statement or comment to Politico, said that she would not have to go public about a traumatic experience in order to be believed. Now, uh, Rascott was connected, uh, to Politico through a woman by the name of Cheyenne Hunt, and that's a 29-year-old, uh, attorney and former Platner supporter who founded an organization known as Reckoning Action. It's a nonprofit, uh, that focuses on

[1:11:25] combating workplace misogyny. So, the revelations about Platner's uh, alleged assault, alleged forcible rape is what eventually did him in. he decided to drop out of the race and of course it was after pretty much everyone who had endorsed him had reversed their endorsement and it became clear that there were growing calls for him to step aside. So uh I want to just quickly go into the details that were omitted in Politico's reporting because the Politico piece uh had failed to report

[1:11:56] something that Rascott had said to uh Jake Tapper actually in a subsequent interview. Now, she didn't get detailed about it, but Drop Site News caught it and decided to investigate it. So, I'm going to go to uh what Ryan Grim is, you know, what he reported on X. Politico knew at the time of publication precisely what Jenny Rascott texted to Graham Platner, but deliberately omitted it from their article. Uh Rascott, according to the lead political reporter on the story, told Platner she needed her glute massage. She told he told her

[1:12:29] that he was coming right over and she responded by telling him not to do so, but he came over quickly uh to her home with the door unlocked and he let himself in. And then uh Ryan Grim says, "Whether this detail is important to you or not, it is a shocking breach of journalistic ethics by Politico and CNN not to include it in their coverage." And I agree with him. You know, that detail might not change your mind about however you feel about this story or this alleged incident, but it is not up

[1:13:00] to Politico to decide whether or not we have the full story or the full context. We deserve the full context, including what she had texted him prior to his decision to show up to her house. >> Yeah. No, it's not close. So, she says, "Hey, I need a glute massage." and they're going out at the time. So, I need you to massage my butt. He comes over and then this event happens. Now, again, to be fair, you could hold on,

[1:13:31] hold on, hold on, hold on. >> You could say, "Hey, you know what? She changed her mind and said, "Don't come over." You could say he came over and she changed her mind then and she has every right to change her mind. That's absolutely true. But what is not in dispute is that Politico purposely hid that from you to make Platner look more guilty. They did that on purpose. They had the text and they chose not to share that which is at a bare minimum obviously relevant to the context of what

[1:14:03] happened. So that this is what we've been telling you all along. Look guys, if you I I've said this a million times, not related to this story. >> [snorts] >> uh related to every outsider who's ever run the on the left or the right, what the press does and it is driven by people with a ton of money who do not want those people to win. If you think that's conspiratorial, you literally know nothing about politics. It's called oppo research. Everyone who works in politics knows it. The press never tells

[1:14:33] you that they get spoonfed that oppo research and that it is almost always from the incredibly wealthy and powerful packs and lobbies. And it is almost always against outsiders, almost never against insiders. And so in this case, uh, Matt Stler, which we'll get back to in a second, listed the top donors for the main Democrats. And it is filled with people who are in favor of corporate packs and especially, of course, Apac. But Politico doesn't tell

[1:15:04] you that either. They don't tell you where they got the opera research. They don't tell you why they're hiding critical facts about the case. And neither did any of the other outlets that have attacked and attacked and attacked and attacked. And so why did they call every girlfriend Graham Platner has ever had? That was the New York Times. They called every girlfriend Adam Schiff has ever had or Marco Rubio or Ted Cruz. No. No. Those are good boys and girls. They serve the powerful. They serve the donor class. So they are not to be touched. But if you got someone who will not serve the donor class, then

[1:15:36] the objective reporters go and try to destroy them on behalf of the rich and powerful. And as you can see from the political piece, they don't mind lying to you. They don't mind shredding their so-called journalistic practices, which amazingly Mika Bzinski did a great job of explaining uh when the political reporter was on uh Morning Joe the other day and we showed that to you. So they're liars. They don't have any principles. They're not journalists. Their job is to destroy any outsider that would challenge power.

[1:16:09] >> Yeah. I I don't find these allegations credible. Sorry. Uh forcible rape is something that you would want to either fight or flee from. And just the way she tells the story, how do you stay in your house after the man who forcibly raped you falls asleep? Wouldn't you want to flee your home? And I know, I know, Anna, you don't know how you would react if it happened to you. I would get the f out of there. >> You actually would know how you would react. You You were assaulted once and and you were furious about it, right?

[1:16:43] And I would you have invited that guy over for a cup of tea? No. Okay. So, anyways, look, but this is super important, guys. We don't need to judge the women involved, and that's their personal lives, and they have different interpretations. cuz I don't begrudge them anything, okay? I care about how does the media treat the different candidates and are they being honest with you guys or are they purposely targeting people and trying to destroy them and that's why they dig and dig and dig and the other guys get a free pass?

[1:17:13] What have they uncovered about Susan Collins? Nothing. Right? Why? Because no one's trying to uncover anything about Susan Collins. They're not targeting her. They only target one side. And by the way, if he's replaced by a corporate Democrat, which is what we'll move on to next, um they won't target that person either. They only target outsiders who will not serve power. >> Yeah. Okay. So, um let's get to some more details. So, Platner maintains that the uh allegations are false. Uh he says

[1:17:45] that he's totally innocent and that there was no uh non-consensual sexual activity. Now, uh he had won a decisive victory earlier with the uh primary against Collins. Um so Platner who has won that had won that primary um has asked for asurances from the Democratic party that they will I mean who cares at this point? Who cares? We're not going to win anything electorally. We're just not. We're not. and the very progressives, the very

[1:18:16] leftists who claim that they want real change in this country immediately run away at the first sign of controversy. So it make a decision. Is this like a cute little like cosplay thing that we're doing or do you actually want change? Okay, so if you're By the way, I didn't even really like Platiner all that much as a candidate to be honest with you to be fair. So, I wasn't one of his viferous defenders, but I don't like the fact that we're normalizing just making forcible rape allegations against someone to destroy their

[1:18:47] political candidacy. And then what happens next? I mean, this wasn't adjudicated at a court of law. He was never found guilty of doing anything wrong. So, but it doesn't matter because how this plays out, whether he did it or didn't do it, he looks guilty and this will follow him around forever for the rest of his life when he hasn't even seen a single date in court. How is that okay? >> Yeah. >> How is that okay? >> And and so uh and by the way, there's extra layers to it. So, he does that 11 minute thing video where he basically

[1:19:19] withdraws from the race. I'll get to the nuance in a second. And everyone in media all over cable news is like, "Not good enough. He should have confessed." Well, he says he didn't do it. No, he he should say that he did it, but he thinks he didn't do it. No, he should say what we want and he should just punch himself in the face and he should confess the things that we've accused him of. Well, what is it? And then, of course, they went to now smear everyone who supported him. That's it. They're all guilty. No, no, we're not going to do any of that.

[1:19:49] Now, let's find out who is guilty. Okay, I want to go to uh forward to graphics five and six here. So, Matt Sto, longtime progressive uh and he got heat in the same ways that we do uh for saying that there's nuance in this story in exactly in in the ways that he said it has nuance and people LIKE NO YOU CAN'T DO NUANCE, YOU HAVE TO BE AN idiot and you have to be binary and you have to destroy everyone in the establishment's path. He's like really? and he explained top main Democratic party donors in recent years are Reed Hoffman, Haim Saban, and David Ellison.

[1:20:21] David Ellison as in the Trump ally who fired Steven Cobar and is taking over Tik Tok, CBS News, and CNN. These names should mean something. Saban may be the single most important Apac donor in the Democratic party. That is definitely true. He continues to say and another big donor to the main Democratic party is the founder of Zinga Mark Pinkis who said in 2024 an attack on Amazon and his attack on America it goes beyond big tech and Wall Street crypto fraudster Sam Brank Bankman Freed's partner Nishad Singh at FDX gave $100,000 to the main

[1:20:52] Democratic party in 2022. By the way, Pinkis uh is also an enormous supporter of Israel. Oh, look at that. All of the top donors for the main Democrats are all either corporate pack donors, but really almost all of them are Apac donors. And they hated Graham Platner and they demanded that the press, the Democratic Party destroy him. And look at that. In another wild coincidence, Graham Platner

[1:21:22] is destroyed. Okay, so if you still think these are coincidences, you're not very bright. You can't Oh. Oh, I wonder if people spending millions and millions of dollars against one candidate in an effort to destroy him and have the entire media behind them makes a difference and they don't spend it any on Susan Gos. By the way, these are the people on theoretically on the Democratic side. They destroyed their own candidate because it's not their candidate. [clears throat] They don't care if Democrats win or Republicans win. They only care if Israel wins. Why

[1:21:55] do you think they fund both parties? This is not rocket science. It is crystal clear what happened. And so now uh they're going to have a nominating convention in Maine, Anna. [snorts] And uh guess who's going to decide who the new nominee is? 600 Maine Democratic insiders, the same people funded by the Apac uh and corporate pack guys I just named. >> Of course. >> Yeah. So >> I'm not surprised. Of course. Of course it played out this way. But we're the bad guys for questioning the credibility

[1:22:28] of these allegations that uh we haven't seen a shred of concrete evidence to back up. So we're so we are to believe that there is a man who forcibly raped a woman on the loose. Just on the loose. >> Yeah. >> Okay. >> And by the way, he is not formally filed yet. Uh and people are getting antsy about that. Uh they're like, "You only got 70% of the vote. You got TO GET OUT RIGHT NOW." OKAY. and all of them. And by the way, I totally agree with you. A lot of people on the left are like, "No,

[1:22:58] no, no trial. No, I don't want to hear any evidence. I don't need the context. I love and believe Politico and New York Times. Make sure we destroy our own." Okay. All right. That's if you want to go that way. I think it's a terrible idea. And so, uh, you have to file by July 13th and they have to pick a new candidate by July 27th. So, I I don't know what's going to happen. It's not my business to to on whether he should drop out or not drop out. All I know with absolute certainty is that evil forces targeted Graham Platner to make sure

[1:23:31] that a person who was going to represent the voters overwhelmingly won the primary could not represent those voters. So instead, a bunch of corporate Democrats will get together funded by Apac and tell you who your next I was going to say senator is, but they're not going to pick the next senator. They're going to pick the next person who's going to lose to Susan Collins cuz they're going to say, you know, nine out of 10 chance, oh, I am slightly less Republican than Susan Collins, but I will serve all the donors loyally, which

[1:24:02] is the exact opposite of what Graham Platner was saying. Forget Graham Platner. The voters who wanted those policies and principles are the ones who should be served by the so-called representatives in Maine. If they do not pick someone ideologically aligned with the person who overwhelmingly won the primary, main Democrats are telling you, "We are going to betray you and we're going to shive you and we're traitors and we work

[1:24:33] for the donors and we don't work for the voters." But good news, it hasn't happened yet. So, I hope that doesn't happen and I hope that they pick someone aligned with Platner's policies, not his personal life. Will they? Well, guys, we're all going to get to find out together. Are there honest Democrats who give you a real representative, a real somebody who's got a shot at winning that Senate seat and is a populist? Or are they servants of the wealthy and the powerful who are going to betray you? The whole country is going to find out together.

[1:25:05] >> All right, we got to take a break. When we come back, we'll ask whether or not Mitch McConnell's dead. All >> [music] >> right. Uh, here we go. I'm going to read these blind. Let's go to YouTube members first. Uh, Jed Kuzzac says, "Uh, Ben Shapiro's voice always sounds like it's

[1:25:35] playing on twice speed." It does. It really does. I thought it was on twice speed. You So, you nailed it exactly right, but it's not. He just talks so fast um and whiny and annoying, but that's why he has no viewers left at all. The only people watching him are the mainstream media guys are like, "Oh, tweet this out. He's so important and relevant. He's m much more representative of the right-wing voters than Tucker Carlson or Megan Kelly or any other right-wing podcaster." YO, YES, YES, YES, YES. ISRAEL, ISRAEL, ISRAEL. RIGHT. Bunch of liars in mainstream media. They don't work for America at all. Uh Jill Meister says,

[1:26:06] "Yank Bang Shapiro from TYT like you're starting a lawn mower." or I don't even know what that means, but okay. Germaine Moore says, "Us and Russia are supposed to be world powers. Look how long they've been struggling with these tiny countries." Uh, well, a tiny country took over us. And then a bunch of propagandists for Israel go, "Oh, it's just a tiny little country of 10 million people. We have no power. I can't believe you think we have any power at all." Uh, I don't know. You have half the world's billionaires that are supporting you guys that are radical lunatic Zionists. You think that maybe

[1:26:37] half the world's billionaires could be relevant? Oh, no, no, no, no. You're not allowed to say that. I said it because it's true. [snorts] >> It's true. Zachary Stal says, "Anna, that uh you for all that you do to spread the truth." And they're saying, "Thank you for that about the idea of terrorist actions. I'm so proud to be a part of this community." Zachary, we're so proud to have you, man. I love this community. Bud Roland says, "Israelis will sacrifice everything, anything, for their fantasy nation." um and to steal everyone else's land. Uh so that's the

[1:27:08] Israeli government. Anyway, we'll be back. [music] All right, back on TYT. Shank Anna RJ 1323 MS, thanks for joining. We appreciate it. They hit the join button below the video on YouTube. Uh Pat Riggo

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[1:35:01] speculation to continue in the media is not fair to the senator or to Kuckians and my hope is that this provides him the opportunity to share the information in a transparent manner direct from the source. I wish him a safe and speedy recovery. But, you know, I look, on one hand, Jen, I get the fury because we felt it ourselves when it came to Biden, when it came to Diane Feinstein, but I wasn't fully blackpilled when I felt that fury. Uh, and now I am. And now I

[1:35:32] see Congress for what it is, which is a giant waste of our time and resources. They get nothing done. They're totally useless. The only thing they do is constantly put their stamp of approval on pork for their donors. And usually that's in the form of defense contractors, pharmaceutical companies, and oil companies. But and Israel, of course. But aside from that, what what what have they done for us? When was the last time Congress legitimately did something that significantly benefited the lives of ordinary Americans? >> Yeah. Well, I was so blackpilled against

[1:36:04] Joe Biden that I ran against him. I was like, this is insane. He's not functional. He's obviously scenile. And everybody's like, "Oh, you're trying to help Donald Trump." Like, "Uh, no. I'd like someone with a brain so that they could beat Donald Trump." No, no, we don't want to beat Donald. Why don't you want to beat Donald Trump? Oh, no. We supporting the scenile guy. It's absurd. It's absurd. By the way, good people believe that. Why do they believe that? Because our entire system is get you is structured to get you to bow your head

[1:36:35] to the powerful. So, if you're, you know, if Biden or Diane Feinstein is scenile, uh, or has dementia on the on the Democratic side, shut up. Don't ask any questions. Well, who's the president? Who's actually running the country? Who is the governor? Who is the senator from California right now? Who's the senator from from Kentucky? Because it isn't Mitch McConnell. Mitch McConnell is not voting. He's not making any decisions. uh these same 20inut conversations are such obvious

[1:37:05] propaganda. By the way, let's note for the record that that the people that say that they had the conversations with Mitch McConnell are enormous supporters of Israel. Now, you say, "Wait a minute, Jen. Why is that relevant in this story?" Well, if they have a special election, Tom Massie runs. He's from Kentucky. They don't want that at all. Even if it's symbolic, even if it's for a small period of time, they're like, "No, no." And besides which, who are all the senators anyway? They apparently don't make any decisions. That's why

[1:37:37] when Feinstein or McConnell are incapacitated, nothing changes. Whoever's actually in charge of their office puts out the same policies that they would otherwise does the same exact things. And Feinstein was wheeled around and McConnell was for a while too. They and then you saw with your own eyes McConnell would freeze up every once in a while. He kept falling over and getting concussed all the way back to 2023. And they just keep wheeling them around and go, "Okay, press this one McConnell. Press this for Israel Feinstein. Press this for big

[1:38:08] pharma. Press this for big oil and defense contractors." So these our senators and representatives are widgets. They're they don't they're not independent decision makers. They're very lowly servants for the donor class. That's why when they are, even if they're brain dead, the donor goes, "Who cares?" That's even better for us. We don't want them thinking on their own, we want them to follow their godamn orders. And whether it's Mitch McConnell or his, you know, that works for

[1:38:39] him, you know, that's his chief of staff or whatever, press the goddamn button. Shut up and do as the donors tell you. And now McConnell goes, "Okay, if he's still alive." I mean, it's they're make Anna. They're turning our democracy. The people who, oh my god, I'm so worried about Trump. I'm worried about democracy. I was worried about Trump. That's why I did what I did. But don't tell me you're worried about democracy and you think it's no big deal that a senator that is not functional is still pretending to be functional, then you don't care about our democracy and you

[1:39:10] know their widgets. You know their waiters and waitresses for the rich and the powerful that have completely bought our Congress. So, this is just a they've turned it into a sick force. And in moments like this, they start to rub it in our face. Haha. You have no representatives. You have no democracy. All you have is a bunch of wealthy people who bought all of Congress and who bought all the media to tell you, "Oh, yeah. This is not a play. No, you're not at the theater. No, no, no. This is real life. They are having

[1:39:41] debates. They have different ideologies and principles. >> [snorts] >> The whole thing's a goddamn joke. >> I agree. All right, we got to take a break. Let's do that. When we come back, we'll uh discuss some other news, including Marco Rubio, who is enabling terrorists as we speak, uh arguing that uh there needs to be an international effort to go after Antifa. We'll be right back. [music]

[1:40:16] >> [music] [music] >> All right. Uh, so Brother Tube writes in, uh, on tyt.com, "No Anna for a week. That sucks." I agree, but we try to do the best we can. So, uh, we're going to have a really interesting and eclectic mix for you guys next week as guest hosts. Adam Mockler is going to be on Wednesday on Wednesday. Dave Smith's going to be on Tuesday and Marjorie

[1:40:47] Taylor Green is going to guest host on Monday. So, wild week up ahead and should be a lot of interesting conversations filled with agreements and disagreements and that is normal. Cabbage writes in a agent Chuck Weaguer. That's how uh uh John Kuryaku was understandably mispronouncing my name. And by the way, I I've mispronounced his name many times. Angie Lynn says we should believe the victim until or unless an investigation proves

[1:41:18] otherwise. Angie, I love you and I get that a lot of people think that way, but I don't agree. Uh and so we don't know if they're a victim until we know whether it's true or not. >> Yeah. Okay. So, we're going to just assume people are guilty and they have to prove that they're innocent. So, just understand what you're normalizing. You're normalizing people, bad people's ability to just make things up, to destroy someone, whether it's in their career, politics, whatever. And the onus is on them to prove that they're

[1:41:48] innocent. I don't want to live in a system like that. I think that's a really bad system. So, that's just my take. >> Angie and others, like, I get it. If it happened, you're super pissed about it and you've got every right, but we don't know if it happened. That's the question. By the way, we have this question up on tt.com and on YouTube community. Was it the right decision or should he have stayed in the race? Uh, vote if you can. [music]

[1:42:22] >> [music] [music] >> All right, back on TYT Jen and Anna with you guys. Anna, which story you want to do next? Uh, let's I I'm in a really bad mood, so let's do the Marsha Blackburn thing. Maybe it'll cheer me up. >> Okay, that sounds fun. All right, let's

[1:42:53] go to that now. >> How hard am I going to crack [music] down on China? Well, here's a clue. >> Marsha Blackburn worked with President Trump to take on communist China. [music] As governor, Marsha will fight to protect Tennessee land from Chinese front companies, close loopholes, and hunt down every communist who tries to defy us. [music] It doesn't take a fortune cookie to figure it out here in Tennessee. We're going to stop communist China and protect Tennessee land.

[1:43:26] >> While that might look like a Saturday night live skit, it isn't. That's a real United States Senator, Marshall Blackburn from Tennessee, and that's a real ad. Okay, so there are so many inconsistencies and problems with that ad that it is absolutely hilarious. But the first one I'll point out, Anna, is so we hate the Chinese communists and their fortune cookies. And look, the fortune cookie says that Marshall Blackburn's right. So wait, do we hate the fortune cookies or do we love the fortune cookies?

[1:43:57] >> That ad was awesome. Okay, that [laughter] was the best political ad I've seen in a long time. Look, we need a little bit of comedic relief in life. Okay, politics has gotten too serious and I've been waiting for someone left or right, who cares? But you know that a bozo is going to come out with a super embarrassing ad. Like one of my favorite political ads of all time was Senator Kennedy coming out with that ad where he was going after the BLM protesters and he's

[1:44:29] like, "Oh, you need the cops? Well, call a crackhead." Oh my god, that ad was so funny. So obviously I don't agree with his take, right? Because he's trying to make a point about um how Black Lives Matter like didn't whatever he exaggerated what Black Lives Matter was advocating for at the time, but it was such a funny ad that I loved it and I watched it over and over again. This is the same taste, right? Ignorant woman. You even hear like the stereotypical

[1:45:00] music in the background. I don't understand the need to crush the fortune cookies. Like, aren't fortune cookies an American creation? >> Yeah. So, all right, let's break that down. So, fortune cookies were uh invented by a Japanese American uh around I think 1907, if I remember right. Um >> Oh, that's amazing. >> Yeah. And uh has nothing to do with China. There are no fortune cookies in China. Uh but again, she's like, "Ah, it's so mad at the fortune cookies."

[1:45:31] crumbles them and then like a positive message about Marshall Blackburn comes out of the cookie. So wait, are we supposed to like and trust the cookie that tells us that we should elect you or are we supposed to hate the communist cookie who actually is a communist and isn't a person and is actually Japanese American? Okay. By the way, also they have soy sauce on the table. I know that there's some Chinese brands of soy sauce, but soy sauce is mainly Japanese, not Chinese. Um >> Oh, I didn't know that. That's actually good knowledge uh to know. No, but I

[1:46:02] let's also just quickly address the elephant in the room. Uh, is war with China something that's like making voters cream in their pants? Like, is that what they're looking for right now? I don't know. I don't really get it. >> No. >> Like, is that what we're looking for? Go ahead. >> So, let me show you the foreign government you should be concerned about. Let's take a look at uh who Senator Blackburn has received contributions from. I know you're going to be shocked. Oh, look at that. Israel, $449,000. She's now running for governor of

[1:46:32] Tennessee. So, the problem isn't the country who has a lobby that has given to 94% of Congress, including Marshia Blackburn. No, no, no, no. The country that has forced us into seven wars that has cost us $8 trillion. The country that we've given $320 billion to, that we're thinking of merging our militaries with, that's not the country you should be concerned about. squirrel, Chinese squirrel. Look at the communist squirrel and and the dastardly fortune cookie

[1:47:04] they have. So, she thinks my voters are generally racist. I want them to hate a foreign country, but not beloved Israel. I want them to love Israel because we all serve Israel and I want to distract them from that. So, COMMUNIST FORTUNE COOKIE SQUIRREL, everybody get angry at the Chinese. >> So, here's the thing to understand, though. uh for because there are people in the country who desperately wanted that pivot to Asia which kind of started

[1:47:35] under Obama but we got sucked right back into the Middle East our if you genuinely think that we need to be concerned about China and China is spanking us right be partly we're spanking ourselves China is growing in power they are ascendant we are declining in power and a big Reason why is because we are basically blowing our load, meaning our all our military weaponry, our resources. We're $40 trillion in debt. We keep getting sucked

[1:48:06] into Israel's wars in the Middle East when I thought we were going to try to stop doing that. But, you know, we we can't. God forbid we actually start looking out for the American people, doing what's necessary to be competitive on the global stage. All that money that we've been spending on Israel's wars, we could have actually utilized in research and development here in the United States, investing in our youth, investing in, you know, the trade so young people can have an option outside

[1:48:38] of four-year institutions where they take out an insane amount of debt and will likely have the jobs that they're getting degrees for replaced by robots and AI. Like, I just you can't have those two things. You understand? Like you can't on one hand fearmonger about China and how we need to focus on fighting China while also simultaneously being supportive of anything and everything Israel wants. The two things don't vibe if you get what I'm saying. You can only have one and we've made our

[1:49:09] decision to the detriment of our country. >> To your point, Anna, so the Chinese are in an economic competition with us and that's definitely real and often times they cheat around the edges. uh and you can say not around the edges but on core things they flood our markets. There's a bunch of things we've talked about that we should fight back against uh when it comes to the Chinese government. But wait, let's break it down in two other layers though. So the Chinese are out competing our businesses. That's why they're dastardly communists.

[1:49:41] So the Chinese government, you could be mad at them, but they keep calling like I'm communist, right? Well, how communist are they if they have all these businesses that are out competing us fairly or unfairly, right? No, it's a mixed economy at this point. So, it's they throw in the communists as a way of like getting you angrier and more demagoguery. You could be plenty angry at the ways that they cheat on the economic issues without bringing the extra demagoguery in. That doesn't make any sense in this context. They And by the way, if you want to say that it's not a free country, that is definitely

[1:50:12] true. And that is a legitimate way of uh critiquing the Chinese government again without bringing things that don't make sense. But my the most important part is Chinese restaurants are American. She's in a presumably in a Chinese restaurant in Tennessee. She's not in Shanghai or Beijing. And if you know anything about Chinese restaurants, they're probably the most capitalist businesses in the country. You you need food on Christmas, trust me, the Chinese restaurant is open. you need food on Fourth of July or Thanksgiving or past hours, the Chinese

[1:50:44] restaurant's open. You know why? Because they're interested in making money. >> Yeah, I totally agree. Uh so anyway, I guess that did lighten the mood a little bit. Uh but now let's turn to Marco Rubio. Let's do Fblock because I want to talk about how he's trying to solicit help from 60 countries for something um idiotic. Go ahead, Jake. >> Yes. Um, so, uh, Marco Rubio and some of the others in the administration, interesting who they are, are now trying to pressure foreign governments into

[1:51:15] labeling Antifa a terrorist organization. Wait, what? Antifa barely exists here, let alone in foreign nations. So, what are they actually trying to do? That's really interesting. Anna, tell us more. So, the Washington Post put out this report and I was fascinated by it because when you take a step back and you look at the behavior of the United States government and what we're involved in in the Middle East, what we are empowering and emboldening and what we have emboldened in the Middle East,

[1:51:46] there's quite a bit of terrorism going on, right? A lot of innocent people are getting killed. But Marco Rubio is soliciting the help of 60 countries in order to fight what the Trump administration views as a major peril. The resurgence of transnational far-left terrorism. That is insane. That is insane. That is You have no right and no leg to stand on when it comes to the topic of terrorism.

[1:52:18] you have been bombing fishing boats in the Caribbean. Okay? Like what are we doing here? But anyway, this invitation that Marco Rubio sent to 60 different countries included most European nations uh the larger Latin American countries and uh several Asian countries including India, Indonesia and um Singapore. And so he's asking to meet with them like get together this international meeting where they discuss like fighting back against the scourge of left-wing

[1:52:50] terrorism. So Trump designated Antifa as a domestic terrorist organization last year. And additionally, and this is the part that really gets me jank, Trump's foreign counterterrorisms are Sebastian Gorka, who's foreign. Uh you can tell by his voice. I have no problem with foreigners, but how about foreigners don't label Americans as terrorists as they're working for, you know, the White House? But anyway, Sebastian Gorka has been pushing for the use of the terrorism label against

[1:53:21] Antifa to basically justify viciously going after left-wingers as if they're like al-Qaeda terrorists. Oh, no, no, not al-Qaeda terrorists. actually armed those people and invite them to the White House and spray perfume on them. Anyway, uh a linkage to foreign terrorist groups can unlock certain investigative tools such as surveillance, said one US counterterrorism official. And uh if you guys can remember through an interview that I had done with Ken Clippenstein, his original reporting found that

[1:53:53] Sebastian Gorka was also looking to label certain conservative Republicans as terrorists, including Tucker Carlson, simply because he doesn't agree with Tucker Carlson's views on Israel. >> So that reporting was done by Ken Clippenstein. I even interviewed him about it. You guys should check that out if you missed it. But some US officials rightly are very worried about this move. Why is that? Some Trump administration officials fear that a future Democratic administration could use the tactic against conservative activists. One administration official

[1:54:24] said, quote, "The idea is you're setting a precedent for a future Gavin Newsome administration to turn these authorities on conservatives," the official said. So it turns out that there are still people with some, you know, functioning brains in government. So, I'm really happy to see that because whoever this person is, they are absolutely right. You should never advocate for the dismantling of rights for anyone because it will boomerang right back to you. And people

[1:54:55] who don't see that, people who don't realize that are digging their own graves. In fact, some US officials have even declined to go to this event that Marco Rubio is putting together. Discomfort with the administration's direction is such that at meetings of national security officials from various agencies, some intelligence analysts have declined to brief on Antifa because they do not regard Antifa as a serious counterterrorism threat according to one person familiar with the matter. And to

[1:55:26] be clear, US law actually requires a group to be foreign in order for them to be labeled a terrorist organization. Former State Department official Jason um Blasins, who ran uh the designation process for 10 years uh through 2018, told the Washington Post that if it has any significant domestic presence, it cannot be designated foreign. meaning Americans cannot be uh labeled as

[1:55:57] terrorists by our own government. Now, Marco Rubio's previous designation of foreign Antifa groups um was also called into question because as you mentioned earlier, Jenk, Antifa is an American thing, but what Marco Rubio is trying to allude to is just left-wing groups in other countries. And so, uh Rubio has linked foreign groups uh to Antifa before. Back in November, for instance, Rubio designated four European-based groups as terrorist organizations with ties to Antifa, the State Department

[1:56:28] released a fact sheet on the groups with the names the agency is using for them. At least one of the groups is not known by the name of their she on the on the sheet. Uh in their countries, none are linked to anything called Antifa. And so the groups according to uh the state department include uh Antifa OST in Germany, the informal uh anarchist federation or the international revolutionary front in Italy. Like if

[1:56:58] Italy is having problems with any group in their own country, like they'll handle it. Like why are we having like this international consortium getting together in order to fight back against left-wingers? And the country that's setting this up is the one enabling Israel to carry out how many different wars? Ethnic cleansing in Lebanon, genocide in Gaza. You want to talk about terrorism? You want to talk about terrorism? There was a Palestinian man who wanted to do something nice for

[1:57:31] the Palestinians who are in Gaza right now. So, he organized like screens for them to be able to watch the soccer matches as part of, you know, the FIFA matches that have been going on. Um, Israel bombed his car and killed him. >> Jesus Christ, man. Yeah. No, no, there's real terrorists in the world for sure. So, I'll come back to them. So, we're trying to shut down Antifa in Germany. You know, Antifa is short for anti-fascist. Why do we want pro-fascist groups in

[1:58:03] Germany? That doesn't sound like a good idea, does it? So, but in reality, of course, these groups are microscopic and including here. And we used to have debates on the show uh and discussions on the show about, you know, what's worse, leftwing or right-wing terrorism. And, you know, the proof is overwhelming on the right-wing side. But does it really matter, guys? both are in the scope of crime in America tiny. Okay. So why they they're obsessed about this

[1:58:35] even though there's almost no leftwing or right-wing terrorism. Tiny tiny amounts uh over the span of the last 10 20 years, right? So why are they getting all agitated about both sides? And Gorka is the giveaway. So if you don't know, Marco Rubio, Sebastian Gorka, and Steven Miller, the three people in the administration most in favor of this and pushing this forward are all Israel first. And Gorka is the giveaway because of what Anna said that it goes, "Oh, we by the way, we should also use it against the rightwing against Tucker Carlson,

[1:59:07] i.e. against all opponents of Israel, a foreign government. But we should call people who are criticizing Israel, Americans criticizing Israel inside this country, terrorists now. And then we should get all of our allies to call them terrorists. Guys, the surveillance state is coming. And what's and this is how the game is played. So now when the theoretical right-wing is in charge, they're not right-wing, they're just

[1:59:37] Republican cutouts for a foreign government, they come in and they go, "Oh, left-wing terrorist. Oh, make sure you pass this law and you all coordinated against these terrorists. And then a Democrat, so-called Democrat, wins. And then he goes, "Oh, you have to get the right-wing terrorists and you have make sure we coordinate." Oh, look at that. All Americans are terrorists. Now we're doing a surveillance state on all of you. That's why, and by the way, you know, I've called uh right-wingers who did, you know, attacks against innocent civilians here and it meets the

[2:00:07] definition of terrorism. In this story, we find out that, you know, if you're an American citizen, there's a different word for you and not terrorist. And you know what? I had already withdrawn that earlier. I'm double withdrawing it now. You know why? Because it's a dangerous thing to start calling one another terrorists. It it it it's a slippery slope because once you call someone a terrorist, then the government goes, "Well, I have every right to take away all of their rights." No, you don't. No, you don't. They're American citizens. Whether they're on the right or the left, if they're accused of doing something terrible, they still have their rights. We go through a process.

[2:00:38] We go through justice. And if they've done something terrible, then we bring justice to them. Okay? But we don't bring injustice. And we certainly don't do it to American citizens on behalf of another country. If you're worried about actual terrorism, I mean, imagine people killing innocent kids on purpose. What vicious terrorists. Well, there's a country that we funded that killed 23,000 innocent children in Gaza. Disgusting terrorists. the worst civilian kill ratio of any terrorist

[2:01:09] group in the world. And that's the Israeli Defense Forces. But those guys go, "No, give me your money. I'm sending it to those terrorists to murder 23,000 children. But you, if you defy Israel or anyone in power, WE'RE GOING TO CALL YOU A TERRORIST and take away all your rights." So that's what this is about. >> Yeah, I agree. I I just have one final thing to say. I want to go back to the Platiner thing because it's just on my mind. I I just don't understand like every

[2:01:39] This is like one of the most unjust things imaginable because if Platiner had actually committed the crime that he's accused of when you don't go to the cops, then you're just allowing someone who allegedly forcibly raped you to just be out on the loose to do what? To do that to other women. Like, how is that? And then you hold on to that information until a week before an important electoral deadline. I just I don't know. I just don't get it. I really don't. None of this makes

[2:02:09] sense to me. And the fact that people don't see the red flags like blows me away. It really does. >> So I'm going to read more member comments in the bonus episode. That's just for the members. So hit the join button below tyt.com/join to get the bonus episodes. But I'm going to read one right now from a YouTube member box. He said, "If he raped that woman, he needs to go to prison. But to boot him out of running was too much in my opinion. The whole dem Democratic establishment got together in a circular firing squad again. >> Yep. >> And and that's the point we're making. If he's guilty, the consequences should

[2:02:40] be worse. He should go to prison, right? >> But if he's not judged guilty, why are the Democrats taking out their own guy? CUZ THEY'RE NOT DEMOCRATS. They don't care about the Democrats. The Republicans take out their own guys if they're opposed to Israel, too. Tucker Carlson can on and on, right? because they're not Republicans or Democrats. They're the donor class. And that's what the whole uni party's about. The whole thing's a lie. So, look, this again, there's a head-on collision coming from

[2:03:11] the populist, the American citizens that that now realize we don't control our own government and the establishment who will never ever stop lying to you. They will lie to you till the very end and say no, you should be controlled by others. All right, we'll be right back with a great interview.

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[2:06:57] [music] All right, guys. This is a very important interview because we got him. Uh we've got the producer of a movie called The Muslim Invasion of America, and he's in the studio, and he's going to tell us all about this invasion that's coming

[2:07:28] up. He was in the movie himself as well. It's Beck Lover. Beck, how you doing? >> Jen, thanks for having me. Huge fan of you and Anna. And especially in these recent times, how you guys are trying to build bridges between right and left because I think what's happening in the world right now, it's going to take everybody to come together to stop the threat that I feel to all of our freedom. And I think a lot of us are on the same wavelength right now. So, I'm very honored to be here today. >> Thank you, brother. And you're Albania. We'll talk about the Kushner takeover of Albania. We'll talk about the Balkans a

[2:08:00] little bit, but you know, I hear uh that there's a Muslim invasion like in your movie and that you know, Sharia law is about to take over Tulsa, Oklahoma, and parts of Texas, >> Minnesota. >> Okay. So, tell me about it. >> All right, Jake. First and foremost, uh I'm a first generation Albanian American. I was born here because my family fought against communism in Albania. That's how I ended up here. My dad had to leave the former Yugoslavia because the oppression started there. So I'm the direct son of two American, you know, two Albanian immigrants. Uh

[2:08:31] happened to be of the Muslim faith. I came from a you know uh that background. Uh I was in the World Trade Center the day it was hit. Okay. I was going to Pace University. I was a student there. It's stones throw away. I actually started my day in the era underneath [snorts] the Burning Towers. I as a Muslim American cried that day. I, as a Muslim American, bled out that day. My family, who's Muslim, even right now, is serving in the US Navy. My cousin Brian from Dallas, I won't say his last name.

[2:09:03] My cousin Brian, who did two tours in Fallujah, is a Muslim. Is he not an American? He lost half of his battalion there. So, the reason we made this film is cuz these characters keep popping up. the Valentina Gomezes, the Jake Langs, the Laura Loomer, who I've didn't know who she was ever in my life. Uh I call her Jigsaw. I think a lot of the internet does. I don't know if that's, you know, acceptable on the show, but >> it it just happened. >> Uh yeah. So, so that's what I call her. >> You know, I was someone that grew up

[2:09:33] with Russian Jews. My family, my grandmother's two brothers were hung by the SS in northern Albania. Albania was first under the Italian fascists under Mussolini and then the Germans took over. My two great uncles were hung off trees. My first cousins are Jewish. That's got to put out the card there just in case they want to call me something that I'm not. But I don't think Jake Lang represents Christianity. I would even question if he's a Christian. We've all seen him here and there in video clips and he's in Texas. Now they said they banned him from the state of Texas. He's been going to places like Dearbornne where there is a

[2:10:04] large, you know, Arab community, places like Plano where there's a very decentsized, you know, I would say more Pakistani and some Arab uh, you know, people that live there. You know, and I know as an American, I've been throughout this country from coast to coast. I've driven all over it. There's enclaves everywhere in America. If you go to the Bronx, you're going to find the Albanians. That's kind of like our staging ground when we first landed here. you know, anywhere you go throughout the country, even in Plano, the place that Jay kept going back to to spew anti-muslim rhetoric that if anyone

[2:10:37] else said about any other faith, they'd be probably in jail, censored, uh you know, their career destroyed, their life destroyed. So, me and my my good friend and partner, Sunonny Faz, who's a revert to Islam. He just became a Muslim two years ago. He's Italian. He chose this faith. No one put a gun to his head. He saw something in it that brought him peace in his life and early on just as a you know someone that's new to the faith the amount of you know attacks he's gotten in his life even from people very close to him because of all this propaganda that's gone on for the last

[2:11:09] 50 60 years against the faith of of Islam which is you know 1/5if of the world and we just celebrated our 250th anniversary and a lot of Americans forget that the first country to recognize our independence as Americans was a Muslim country which happens to be Morocco which I their plane today, I guess. >> Yeah, they just lost to France. Yeah. >> Oh, I didn't know. I don't, you know, I'm trying to keep up. I'm trying to save the world, Chank. >> So, >> so you know, and then, you know, and we and they gave a port, right? Imagine if we didn't have that first port as a new nation. It was like a way of someone

[2:11:40] giving a stamp and saying, "We we recognize you as a country." So, [snorts] hearing all these lies for years, I never wanted to talk about these things, Jen. I never went into content or podcasting to speak about religion or history or I never wanted to talk about it because I knew first of all the amount of backlash you get because people just hate and then I also knew you know in today's day and world you're probably risking your life right so you know you guys are in danger >> just for speaking your mind so free speech is never free it comes with a

[2:12:10] risk or as Bosam Ysef says great friend he's been here many times it comes with terms and conditions so this film does not have a script. It's not a film. It's a documentary. We literally on a very low budget took the two cameras. All we had set up was meeting with the two mayors of Dearborn and Dearborn Heights. We didn't even know we would run into Jake Lang. We thought we missed him cuz we had went after he went to Dearbornne and we're [snorts] like, let's go see the Sharia takeover, you know, this propaganda that they're pushing, which I think any idiot by now

[2:12:42] can figure out, you know, why they would push this type of rhetoric. By the time Muslims would ever be a perceived threat in America, there's not enough Muslims in America. First of all, we got bigger problems like our deficit, like uh inflation, like the fact that I went to the supermarket and I look and everything is just shrinking. The bag looks the same, but there's less and less items inside these same bags. They think we're stupid. We're in [snorts] serious trouble. So, I think the average American should be focusing on our politicians with their unlimited terms,

[2:13:12] with their lobbying, which should be made illegal. It's not really hard to fix America. Make lobbying illegal. Period. Term limits for Senate and Congress. Period. No matter what, this country should be protesting the way the Albanians are protesting. Yet, we don't have justice for many things, just as everyday Americans. So, we need these distractions. We made the film. It's free. We didn't make it for money. And it's called the uh the Muslim invasion of America. You can type it on Google. Go see for yourself. >> Yeah. >> What it is. So before I go go back to

[2:13:43] that, I'm just curious. Where'd you grow up in America? >> So I was actually, my story is funny. I was born in Houston. Didn't grow up there. Thank God. No offense to Houston, but humidity kills me, man. >> Grew up in the New York City area. Mostly on mostly on the Jersey side of the Hudson. >> I knew it. >> Hoboken Edgewater. >> You got Jersey, New York, Ren. >> Jersey by close by. >> East Brunswick. Yeah. >> Okay. You're not far. >> Yeah. Yeah. And we I we had a lot of fun. >> Summers in Kate May, you know, swimming. That's where I learned how to swim in Cape May, Jersey. But yeah, you know, I spent a lot of time in the Bronx, too.

[2:14:14] So, it's a very big hub for for our people. Yeah. So, now back to to what we're talking about. So, there's this like propaganda about, oh my god, Sharia law is about to take over. That's why I was joking around about it. Like, there's like I don't know if there's three Muslims in Oklahoma, right? Like, what are we taking over? >> You want my opinion? They could have it, bro. Like, I've driven to Oklahoma. Like, I'm terrified of tornadoes. me personally >> like uh I was about to settle in Dallas and we went there and like in May I was like you know I did like a temporary residence to see if I want to set up shop there

[2:14:44] >> every two minutes like a warning tornado I'm like listen let them have it I guess but but my point is Jenk it's it's just first of all just so Americans know like please study the religion like go study it go actually study read read a book for once in your life Sharia law do you know what one of the the the rules of Sharia is >> mm from the prophet Muhammad's mouth himself peace be upon him when you live in a foreign nation you must obey the rules regulation and laws and the ruler of that nation that is literally Sharia

[2:15:16] law that means if you come from a Muslim country and you live in the United States of America you must live by its constitution by its state laws federal laws and whatever the president says but fortunately we live in a country supposedly that we have a right to push back because it's supposed to represent all of us I would rather much some of these people say that believe this type of rhetoric. I don't believe in freedom of speech. Just say it. If you hate Muslims, man, just say it. Just say you don't want this to be an America that gives everyone a shot. Muslims have been here since day one. Chank.

[2:15:47] >> So, but here's my question though, Beck. Uh, so, and it's a there's so many like great points there. So, I didn't know about Morocco being the first country, that's my bad, uh, to recognize America >> and give them a port. >> Yeah. >> And it's still the longest alliance we have in history. and uh Sharia law saying you got to follow the rules of the >> the prophet's [clears throat] mouth. >> No one knows that here in America. Okay. So, but what they know is the propaganda. So, my question is where because since that propaganda is so absurd like the idea that Muslims are going to take over Texas, right? Where

[2:16:18] is it coming from? >> In my opinion, lobbyists, paid influencers, people that support the policies and the endless wars that have taken us into a a a disaster in the United States of America. this endless cycle of war in the Middle East. Uh I would have to agree it definitely benefits Israel, right? And you know to me it's like you know you you got to dehumanize people brother if you can do but what I don't understand and maybe they should pay attention. It would have been smarter for Israel to have only

[2:16:49] gone over go after dehumanizing the Arabs. I I don't understand why they went after the whole religion. We are a world faith of two billion people. We come in every shape, size, and color. I am from Europe. I am considered what you would call white. The minority of Muslims are Arabs. They're only 19%. Why did they go after the whole faith with their propaganda? It makes no sense to me. And it's very offensive as someone whose family was killed by the Nazis. When you study basic history, check, you

[2:17:21] study the caliphate. People like throwing that word around. They're trying to start another caliphate. Why don't you guys go study the first two [snorts] and read about the life of Omar al-Katab only 6 years after the life of the prophet Muhammad when he got control of Jerusalem. [snorts] The Jews were not allowed to live in Jerusalem for 500 years. Jenk, this is not something Beck is saying. This is common sense history. You can go look it up yourself. Even in their own books, in their own history, their own historians wrote about these experiences.

[2:17:52] For 500 years, they couldn't step foot in that city. And the first action of the Muslim ruler was how come there are no Israelites, no Jews at this time, sir? They were wiped out. They were pushed out. They weren't allowed to return. For 500 years, the first action of the Muslims was to say, "Bring me 80 families and resettle them immediately." Throughout history, they were protected. If you actually look at the history of Muslims and Jews, yet I got to sit back here and listen to someone like Laura Loomer and listen to people like Randy Fine and listen to people who push

[2:18:24] things that are historically completely fabricated, completely uh you want to talk about being an extremist and now you're dehumanizing a faith, a world faith that's brought so much peace to me. But the most disrespectful part of it all, Jenk, the religion that in my opinion, if it didn't exist, I don't think they would exist either. I don't think they would have survived the Inquisition and the Holocaust. The only country that saved all of its Jews during the Holocaust was the same country that my two great uncles were hung off trees in northern Albania, and

[2:18:54] Tropoa to be exact. 16 and 18 years old, not a single Jewish refugee during World War II, died in Albania. And to be fair to my people, they're all, you know, we're Muslim, Christian, Orthodox. We've never fought over war. There was all three religions involved in saving them, but predominantly Muslim. That's why Jenk, you never saw a movie once in Hollywood. Where are you, my brothers and sisters? I have so many friends that are Jewish. Where's the film about the only country that saved you in World War II? Do you know why you never saw a film

[2:19:26] about Albania saving the Jews? You've seen movies about everything you can imagine in World War II. Why did they never make a movie about Albania? because they don't even want to show slightly any positivity between Muslims and Jews. That's why that film was never made. >> So uh I'll go a little further. I'll list a bunch of things then ask you a question. So first of based on the things you said. Number one u the Turks saved hundreds of thousands of Jews from the uh Inquisition in Spain. >> That that's a fact. They followed them once they were kicked out of you know the Muslims were kicked out of Andalusia

[2:19:57] which was an enlightenment a gold period in history. So while the Christians, you know, and look, it's not today's Christians fault, but it was just a fact. Yeah. When the Catholics were slaughtering uh the Jews in in Spain, the Ottoman Empire pulled up his entire navy and said, "Give them all to us and save them all." Okay. So the idea that Muslims hate Jews is just ahistorical. It's just not remotely true. >> And not just that, during that empire, they were allowed to have their own court systems under the they had basically self-ruule within the Muslim Empire.

[2:20:27] >> Yeah. And then you know uh to your point about why did they decide to demonize all the Muslims like you never like the number the biggest Muslim country in the world is Indonesia. >> There was never a war there. >> There was never a jihad. >> Yeah. And none of the top four Muslim countries are Arab. Okay. That's uh Pakistan. It's Indonesia first and Pakistan, India, uh Nigeria, etc. Right.

[2:20:58] So then you got Turks, you got the Iranians that are also not Arabs. So my guess as to why that happened, Beck, is because if you say that Arabs are terrorists by nature, you're an obvious racist, right? Because it's a race that you're attacking and there's no basis for it. But if you say Muslims believe because of their belief system, their religion in fighting against Jews or Christians, it makes it sound more believable. >> But it's not even accurate. It's not accurate. And they say global war on

[2:21:30] terror. Wait, was it global? >> No, it was against Israel's neighbors. >> Correct. >> So all of this, in my opinion, is propaganda started by Israel so that America will hate Muslims so that we'll pay and finance for Israel's wars against their Muslim neighbors. >> I would have to agree with that. Yeah, I would have to agree with that. You know, and another thing is, you know, Spain, it wasn't called Spain, it was the Goth Kingdom, was controlled by the Moors for 500 years. I always thought the Muslims

[2:22:00] invaded. I was like, why would they invade? Like, I never knew the history. They were having a civil war, the Goth Kingdom, and [snorts] half of them didn't recognize the the one that was put in power. So, they invited the Moors to come in. The Moors took over. They won. And then all three religions practiced in peace. today. Is not Spain still one of the most Catholic countries in the world? >> It is. >> So when they say Islam was spread by the sword, yet them as Christians don't look in the mirror, and I'm not here to pick on Christians, but this is they're in my opinion, they're using Christians to

[2:22:30] fight their wars. They have to pump them full of hatred and then unleash them on the Muslims because they're only 13 million. So how do I go against a couple billion? Let me let me light both sides of the fire and make them hate each other. >> Yeah. And again, look, we both have Jewish family. It isn't the >> extremist from their sides. >> Yeah. It isn't the Jews doing it. It is a very specific group, right? Like for example, right now twothirds of Jewish Americans are against the current Netanyahu government in Israel those stats two days a day ago, two days ago. >> Only a third are in favor of Netanyahu. But that third unfortunately has

[2:23:02] billions upon billions upon billions of dollars and they use it. They're radical Zionists. Not the whole third even, but there's radical Zionists in this country who say, "No, you should despise Muslims." By the way, we're so concerned about bigotry when it comes to anti-semitism. It's a total lie. It's just another excuse to hide uh and and shield Israel. Okay. Now, let's turn to Albania where you're from. So, Albanians have some fighting spirit. So, the Kushner goes over there and Ivanka and what are they doing? They're trying to take over an island that's like a basically a national treasure for

[2:23:33] Albania. Tell me about it and how the Albanians are pushing back. >> Albanians have a very tragic history. We're literally, you know, one of the oldest, if not one of the oldest people in all of Europe. And because we've always been occupied by foreign powers, the fact that we even survived is a miracle. Okay? The fact that our language is still intact. First under the Romans, then the Ottoman Turks, then under the Slavs, then communism came and for the first time ever, Albanian history is finally getting out there. Albanians [snorts] are by far I want to say this to the country to to the whole

[2:24:04] world. Albanians are the most pro-American people on the face of the planet. This is not a protest or a push back against America. This is a push back against corruption and backdoor deals that are done through oligarchs and prime ministers and people doing favors for each other. And we have these problems within our own country. I just wish as a first generation Albanian American, my fellow Americans would wake up to the type of corruption we have in our country because I used to think we

[2:24:34] were really good until I I you was naive as a young person. And I used to believe the movies and the president would you know they would show that in the movie the president there's a tsunami coming no I'm going to stay in the white house when he can get away like so you know so for me what happened over there people communism took over my family that's where I was born my family were anti-communist fighters my great-grandfather was thrown into a gulag for 28 or 29 years how he survived miraculous never got to meet him he died two years shortly my great-grandmother was hung by the Albanian communist Under

[2:25:07] the regime of Enberhoja, the state in communism takes all the land. They put whoever was dissident into what was called interimi or interment camps. My mom's first cousins all grew up in those camps and they take your land and then give to, you know, resettle people. So for a couple two generations, people lost their land and other people lived on their land and then communism fell. But now I've been here for two generations, but it's my family's land before communism. Cuba is going to have the same problem when it falls. And

[2:25:39] instead of settling these land disputes which have really hurt the Albanian people and created problems and violence and stuff like that, our the prime minister there figured out a way to give away. So we can't figure out they can't figure out for their own citizens how to give them back their land before communism, but they could figure out how to give away one of the most precious pieces of property that the Albanians have. It's not a large country, okay? They don't have many islands. And I, as an American, I've been to Puerto Rico, Aruba, I've been to all these beautiful places. The local population doesn't

[2:26:09] flourish just because you build a five-star resort. Okay? What happens is they can't even access that beachfront. They can't go there on vacation. If he really cared about his country, if Eddie Rama did in the Flamingo Revolution, cuz even I forgot as an Albanian, we have flamingos there. That's how beautiful this place is. mountains, crystal clear water, a very hospitable people that even names its streets after American presidents because Albania survived the collapse of the Ottoman Empire thanks to Woodro Wilson going to bat for them

[2:26:40] because we did lose about 80% of our territory, the Albanian people. So, they got to keep that little peace otherwise we would have been like the Kurds, a nation without a home. And that is why the Albanians honor America. They love them. It was unfortunate that the Albanians fell behind the Iron Curtain, but [snorts] you have literally they even named a highway from Kosovo to Albania called Bo Biden Highway. Again, they don't understand Republican, Democrat, you know, all the stuff that's been happening in our country. The Albanian people just want to honor and remember America, but what bothers me is

[2:27:12] Israel, and I lost, remember, my father's side is from Kosovo, and Kosovo had a very bloody conflict. It wasn't as bad as the Bosians, but it was really bad. Two million people were made refugees overnight. The Clinton administration initiated bombing with NATO which liberated them from that disaster. And [snorts] what a lot of people, you know, try to twist is originally cuz a big piece of the Albanians were pushed into Yugoslavia. We're not Slavic. We're not Slavic speaking. We've been there forever. Our DNA is the most continuous DNA. This is proven now. The most continuous DNA in the Balkans.

[2:27:44] Literally. So we were put into all these different countries, right, and treated like crap and under socialism and all this stuff. And [snorts] the Albanians were stripped of their autonomy in Kosovo by Malloich and his regime. And they weren't even asking for independence at that time, Chen. They just wanted their rights back that they had under Tito of Yugoslavia. >> Make the story short, that didn't work. They tried civil disobedience for 20 years. It led to an armed rebellion. And thankfully, America got involved. Otherwise, we would have been just like the Bosnians. They lost hundreds of

[2:28:15] thousands of people. We lost an estimated 20 to 30,000. There was a lot of crimes committed there. But I lost 28 very close family, friends, uh, first cousins, uncle, and it was very dramatic, you know, as an American to, you know, I used to go back there in the summers and see what life was like under occupation during the Mallich regime. So when I say the Albanians love America, we literally owe our existence to them. >> Yeah. >> So this protest is not against America, I want to clarify this. The Albanians are would never betray America. They

[2:28:45] would be the first country to fight for America. But what bothers me, Chen, is why would our greatest ally, that's what they call Israel. Yes. >> NATO [snorts] is very important to the US. Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Why would Serbia and Israel do a weapons deal about few months ago with Elbit Systems for $1.6 billion? Drones is the future of war. We've all seen the footage in Ukraine. We've seen the footage everywhere of how dangerous drone warfare is. That is the future. It's not fighter jets. Okay. Why

[2:29:18] would our greatest ally go to, and again, I got nothing against the Russians. Why would they go and do a deal with Russia's greatest ally? How does that work? Why are we giving them money, billions of dollars, so that they they can give Serbia the right to make drones? Then you had Netanyahu go to Republica Serpska, which is a very volatile situation in Bosnia. My fear is there is a conflict coming to the Balkans because of the people Serbia has been and I got to give them kudos, okay?

[2:29:49] [snorts] They've been protesting since before Albania against Vuch their their prime minister because of the same grievances. The Balkans has been poor, used and abused for hundreds of years by the powers that be. It's been the crossroads. It's where World War I started. Y >> and I am scared that they are setting the primes and getting ready to light the match of the the number one powder keg in the world, the Balkans. It does not benefit the youth. I think a lot of the youth are up, you know, even though they had traditional rivalries, Serbs, Albanians, Croats. I say this message to

[2:30:20] the people of the Balkans. Do not take the bait of these that want to radicalize and try to use old conflicts to make us kill each other so they can keep their puppets in power. That's my fear, Jen. Yeah, I I want to build on that. So, I've said on the show before, you know, Muslims in southeastern Europe in the Balkans are the most pro-American people on the planet, right? Albanians, Bosnians, Kosovo, Serban. So, why America saved those Muslims from a genocide, a lot of them, right?

[2:30:50] >> I mean, with the Bosnians, they were, to be honest, I feel like they let the Bosnians down. They placed an arms embargo on them. That's when I became an activist. >> But then they came in at the end >> at the end and stopped it. But it was pretty bad. Jen, >> I know. I know. But still, they saved >> and they carved their country up like a Turkey and they barely gave them any coast. I mean, I don't think that I think the Bosians were dealt with very unjustly in many ways. But, uh, I understand what you're saying. They would have kept on going forever until they were wiped out. >> Yeah. And so, we came in and saved them at the end. Woodro Wilson sets up Albania. We free all those folks from

[2:31:21] communism. Right. So, super strong pro-American sentiment in that region, especially from the Muslims in that region. They have statues of George Bush in Albania. They have statues of Bill Clinton. Do you understand? They don't understand the politics. They're just like, "These people, they saved us. We love them." And this is even before the Kosovo War. That's what I'm saying. I don't want the Americans to think, "Oh, they're pro." No, they're protesting against the same reason we should be protesting as America. Where is my money going? He's trying to throw a concert with Kanye West right now. $4 million

[2:31:53] that people are like, "What do you mean? He's building a stadium. He's already in the worst uh scandal. I I have never seen our people disunited. And they're not just calling for the resignation of the prime minister. They want the entire government out. >> We should do the same thing. >> They want the entire government out. America will never be what it needs to be as long as we have unlimited term limits and lobbying. We will never be the nation that we could we could be the we we could be the most amazing country in the world. But this corruption is is

[2:32:24] like gang green and there's no way out without pain and we need to you know as Americans we really need to wake up right now. We need to put away this left and right stuff for a while. We really need to put away this left and right stuff. >> Yeah. >> Okay. And let's focus on what's going on here because I don't think we're going to celebrate another 250 years the way we're going. I don't think we're going to survive another 250 months the way things are going. But Beg, last thing here is we run short on time. So, exactly on that point. Now, I see when I talk to Armenians and Turks in the streets in America, they they're like,

[2:32:56] forget grievouses from the past, okay? We totally agree on ending the genocide in Gaza, right? I see Muslims and Christians getting together. I see Jews, too. >> And and plenty of Jews have joined, >> tons of Jews, yeah, on our side getting together against genocide, against wars, etc. I see right and left coming together. Is is what Israel doing in Albania and America and all these places? Um and because let's keep it real, Jared Kushner is totally connected to the Israelis, right? And and so

[2:33:27] >> he cares more about them than him. >> Of course he does. Right. So is what Israel doing accidentally uniting the world? I would have to say it is. And I feel for Jews, brother. I really do, brother. I really, really do. Like I said, I grew up in New York City. Half my friends, half of Pace University was like Russian Jews. But some of the best people I've ever met in my life. I've had some of the best nights of my life. And I feel weird speaking about these things because we've been preconditioned that God forbid you say anything against Israel, all of a sudden you hate. No, I

[2:33:57] don't hate Jews. My family was willing to die to save them. My people were willing to die to save them. My first cousins are Jews. My whole life I've respected them. And many of their articles of what they believe in in their religion, I believe in. I'm circumcised. I'm snipped. I don't eat pork, you know. I technically if I can't find halal, I'll eat kosher, right? So much great respect for the faith. I my I I can't I don't want to say my children's names. Very common names in their religion. So my point is this narrative that Muslims and Jews are enemies is a lie. A complete

[2:34:27] fabrication. I'll debate here. I'm I will debate anyone in the world on that topic. >> Yeah. >> Have you had instances here and there? Yeah. But I'm talking about overall throughout history. Yeah. It's a lie. >> No question about it. All right, everybody check out Muslim Invasion of America. Uh, it's an ironic title, of course, about uh what's happening in this country. Beck, anything else they should check out? That's it. I mean, if they want to check me out on, you know, becklover.com, becklover.com or becklovernyc on Instagram. And I was yesterday with

[2:34:58] Bone Thugs in Harmony as they received their uh star of, you know, on [snorts] the Walk of Fame. One of their members is a Muslim. I guess he's a terrorist, too. I mean, I don't know. He just, you know, they won a Grammy. That's awesome. All right, Beck, thanks for coming in. Appreciate it. Pleasure. >> All right, guys. I'm going to do a bonus episode for the members next. I'll see you in a minute. [music]
