Title: Valuetainment
Show: Valuetainment
Date: 2026-04-23
URL: https://youtu.be/e4YyBCvBaj4
Duration: 13:00

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[00:00] But I want to get into one thing right off the bat. You were on a podcast and my phone started blowing up. And I'm like, "Why is everybody texting me this? Look what John said about you." >> What I said? >> "John is about to get on the podcast." So Rob, if you have the clip, I want to start off with this. I want to address it one by one by one. I want you to cover this for me. So you're on a podcast. I don't know which podcast this is. Well, whatever it is, I was texted by everybody with this. So go ahead and play this clip. >> I was watching Patrick Bet-David yesterday and Patrick is a

[00:31] a hardcore Zionist. He's Iranian. I don't think he's Jewish. I think he's like half Assyrian and half Armenian. >> Yeah. >> Hang on. >> But he's a hardcore Zionist and not just a Zionist, he is a like 1,000% backer of Reza Pahlavi to return to Iran and to assume the Peacock Throne and blah blah blah. Um and he was saying yesterday that it's not 60% of the Iranian people who support the overthrow of the regime. It is 94%

[01:05] >> I don't >> I don't know when I've ever said that, but okay, let's keep going. >> I'm watching you. There are no polls. >> Hang on. Let's keep going. >> no polls. You just make this [ __ ] up to put your your stooge in. >> The monarchists are crazy online. I mean >> They are. >> I I saw some They've been passing around the message that Iran only became um Muslim 100 years ago. >> What? >> No, that was 1,000 years ago. >> 1,000 years ago. >> Yes. >> And I get that there are still Zoroastrians and >> So now watch what happens here, which is the funniest part.

[01:36] >> Oh, Elliot Covert, Patrick Bet-David is Jewish. Okay, I stand corrected. I wasn't sure. >> You're not Jewish. >> No, I'm not Jewish. >> But I know he's not ethnic Persian. He's Armenian. >> there, Rob? Is there anything else that goes on in the world? >> Yeah, 94% of his first >> Curious to know because I want to get all of it out. >> Well, that's what they do. >> fan of you. >> Literally, I've been asking online like from these, you You these Persian monarchists. >> See, this is what I get for listening to people in chat. Everybody wants the Shah back. I find that very hard to believe considering how brutal the Shah was and the fact that he was overthrown by his

[02:07] own people, right? I mean, it wasn't like he was cooed out by any foreign power. Quite the op- quite to the contrary. So, he But yeah, they they literally these these Persian monarchists, they just they do polls of like the exiles. >> And you know, okay, you can pause it right there. Walk me through this. >> I owe you an apology to you. >> No, but tell me this. I I'm not I'm not I I don't want an apology. I I enjoy talking to you. The last time we spoke I think out of the seven clips that we posted, three of them was upset Jews cuz it was comments you made

[02:39] that were bad against Massoud and we played I thought it was very revealing. I thought it was great. But walk me through each of these. Number one, hardcore Zionist, 100% backer of Pahlavi and then 94%. Tell me. >> Okay, the reason I said that is because of Netanyahu's appearance. Number one. Um and uh And the comments that you've made about Pahlavi, like why hasn't this guy called me back? I want him on the show. Like why? He's irrelevant? He's a clown? >> Why hasn't he called me back? I had him

[03:10] on the show two times. >> Yeah, but he when you first invited him >> Do you know what happened there? He's asking for help. He cuz the interviewer the Iranian interviewer that interviewed me is asking me are you are you going to help him? Are you going to help Reza Pahlavi? In In we're speaking in Farsi and English. And I said, "No." He asked me for help. I never heard back from him. But I made some very bad remarks about the guy. Have you heard what I've said about them? >> No. I'd love to. >> I don't know how you You must not know how monarchists think of me right now.

[03:40] >> No. >> [laughter] >> I do you know what? They can't stand me today. Good. >> Do you No, no, it's not good. I like this father. I don't think he's a strong leader. >> He's not. >> He was following me. His wife was following me. His daughter was following me. Everybody on followed the monarchists attacked me because I called Oh, it's it is in shambles with me in that relationship. Bro, maybe play clip >> a that's a badge of honor. >> if you want to play that. >> That's a badge of honor. >> to leave Iran and go camp. By the way, you know what's the biggest thing that Iranian people are saying? Hey Reza Pahlavi, we want you to go to Azerbaijan and and say a few words from there. Come

[04:11] closer to Iran. Show some stuff. He's not doing it. The one thing about Trump, let me tell you what was very crystal clear about Trump, about Milei, about Bukele. You know what it was? They're willing to do the legwork. They're willing to go out there. They're willing to pay the a price. They're willing to drive. They're willing to work their tails off. It's very obvious. We the markets said, "Who is this crazy Elvis-looking guy from Argentina? There's no way he'll ever win making out with people on stage." Guess what? He won. Who is this Bukele guy that's in his early mid-30s? And by the way, let me give you what's

[04:42] going to be confusing. I have a painting of his dad at my house. >> [laughter] >> So, I'm a fan of his father. So, this is this is not like a bash towards the family. >> No, of course. >> And so, but this is towards I was critical of him because for 47 years he's been talking about he wants to have Iran be free and he didn't do it. And And keep in mind, a part of me is Yeah, that's the painting in my house. That's a 15-ft painting. His father's right in the middle. My criticism is of him. But I was watching, you know, I'm like, "Why Did somebody tell you I'm a Zionist? Did you Who's that?"

[05:13] >> It was in the It was in the chat. >> No, no, but did >> I was reading the chat. >> Did any other influencers that you go and do interviews with? Did anybody whisper to you off camera, "Hey, be careful with Patrick. He's a Zionist." >> Yes. >> Who was that? >> Oh, I I don't want to out him like that, but he said, "Oh, you're going on PBD?" I said, "Yeah." He said, "Be careful. Patrick comes out swinging on Israel." >> Is this a big name? >> Yeah, it's pretty big name. >> One of the biggest names? So, then I know who it is. >> I don't want to I don't want to out >> Was his family in the CIA before, maybe? >> I I'm I I've got to stop.

[05:45] >> Okay. >> But but I but I want to apologize on the record because I was wrong. >> Okay. So, so that and and the and the uh the BB side because you know who's the only person in the world that interviewed BB and Nick Fuentes within 30 days? >> It's got to be you. >> It's only me. >> It's got to be. >> You So, you know what the problem is with me, John? This is the problem. The same people that want freedom of speech, that pitch it, >> Yeah. >> don't practice it. >> Yeah. >> What do I mean by that? They generally want to only talk to people that agree with them. >> Yes. It's the exact >> You and I don't agree on maybe a few

[06:16] things. No, which is why I so enjoyed the conversation. I love the conversation because the my my thoughts are Alicia, just bring it to me. It's totally fine. My thoughts are it's like man, I I don't know. He He's a CI guy. He must know more than I do. He has some experience. I want to know. But, >> No, I'm I'm wrong and I apologize. >> go to the other one cuz I want to clear all of this up. Let's go to the one about when you said 94%. I'd love to know when I said 94% Rob, can you take one of the language learning models? Matter of fact, why don't we do both of them. Take uh take chat GPT and do Grok

[06:49] and ask a question, how do you want to pose this question? What percentage of Iranians don't support the IRGC? What percentage of Iranians don't support the IRGC? Okay, ask the same exact question. So, what we'll typically do is we'll ask different and we'll go do our own and then we'll look at the numbers that's being given. Okay. >> Wow. >> This is which one? What does it say? Around 80 to 92% of Iranians appear to not support the IRGC based on available polls, support they

[07:20] likely don't the direct polling on the IRGC challenge and due to Iran repression, surveillance, and self-censorship. Okay, great. Leaked internal Iranian government poll 2025 commissioned by the presidency. A confidential report found 92% of Iranians hate the regime. And that's from Yahoo explicitly including supreme leader Khamenei and the IRGC, not just specific officials or policies. This was cited by Iranian experts and aligns with widespread dissatisfaction. Gamin is the one that I saw. By the way,

[07:51] I haven't even seen the one above that we're reading for the Go to the Gamin one. Gamin says what? Independent arts online poll 10,000 13 to 14 have confidence in the IRGC. So that leaves another 86. And what does it say? Broader regime rejection. Only about 15 to 20% want Islamic Republic to continue. 70 to 80% favor regime change transformation. High agreement 70% with designating the IRGC as a terrorist organization in Iran. Can you go to the Is this uh Chat GPT or Grok? >> That was Grok. >> see what Chat GPT says. Zoom in a little

[08:21] bit. Okay, so direct IRGC split 2019 Maryland poll 80%. Uh Maryland Iran poll So that's Maryland. So you can criticize that because that's from here. 80%. Gamin is the same one. I think Gamin is from Netherlands. 71% of Iranians oppose. 20% support. So you see what numbers were repeating. We're repeating reports that are coming in. So it's not a >> You're You're right and I'm wrong and I apologize. >> No, I I appreciate that. And the And the last one I want to show you, which is crazy, to get this out of the way so we

[08:53] can have our uh conversation, is do you know who I brought on the podcast who never agreed to go on the podcast with anybody? And when he came in, he was the most suspicious guy here looking at me saying, "Why do you have me on the podcast?" You know who it was? >> No, who's that? >> of IRGC. >> No. >> That guy right there. Mohsen Sazegara. Okay? Do you know who he was? >> miss that? >> So check this out. I'm going to I'm going to show this for you. So if you go a little bit lower to see who is He's the founder of Go a little bit lower.

[09:26] Put IRGC arrest blah blah blah blah blah. Can we find the IRGC there with him and Khomeini? Uh Okay, right there in the middle. >> There he is. >> An Iranian journalist and political He was the founder of the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps after the Iranian Revolution. He was the guy It was between him and Khomeini that started the IRGC. He would do the intro to all the tapes where they would send in for Iranians to listen before the revolution happened to

[09:57] pin Pahlavi's people against him. This was the voice. Then you had Khomeini. I had him on the podcast. And the claim was that SAVAK killed 100,000 people. Now, keep in mind, he's the propaganda guy that that said SAVAK, which is, you know, uh uh Pahlavi's CIA, Pahlavi's Mossad, right? >> At the end of the podcast, I wanted to ask him, "It's been 40-something years now. You were involved. Was it a lie that Shah killed 100,000 people?" This is not a fan of me. This is not a

[10:27] Shah a fan of the Pahlavi. He did not come in knowing what we were going to talk about. Look at his answer here. Go ahead, Rob. >> Compared Shah with Khomeini, let me say judgment now that many documents have come out you know, for instance, on those days opposition claimed that 100,000 political prisoners Shah has. Uh there are 100,000 political prisoners in Iran. >> That was false. It was only 3,000.

[10:58] >> 3,500. >> 3,000 uh few hundred. >> Right. >> Uh Now that if I compare Shah with Khomeini, definitely I I already said. First of all, his personality, Shah, was a better guy than Khomeini. First. Second, uh his what he did for Iran because that he believed in you know, modernization of Iran

[11:29] was definitely better than Islamic Republic. As I said >> You can pause. I would suggest if you want to watch it, watch it. It's fascinating cuz it's a little background. I'll text it to you. I think you'll enjoy it, but these are my positions. My concern is, John, people that I've had good relationships. There's this one guy that I think he's the head of the snake that behind closed doors is creating division and creating rumors and stories about and he's a very influential guy. Could be the same guy that told you stuff about me. Very heavy-weight guy. Very, very heavy-weight guy. I think

[12:00] we're talking about the same person. If I tell you I've heard 10 people that he said stuff about me behind closed doors, that's a small number. >> Wow. >> So, this keeps coming back to me. I'm like, what is his issue? What is his challenge? We won't talk about the name cuz I don't want you to be in an uncomfortable position. I'm not going to push that topic. All I'm saying is I wanted to make sure I presented this to you >> and any pushback you have, please go for it. I'm all ears. >> No, no. I owe you an apology. I said you've you've shown me wrong and I I'm sorry that I uh perpetuated an untruth. Hi, everybody.

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