Title: Israel Legalizes Lynching | DeProgram with Ted Rall and John Kiriakou
Show: DeProgram Show with Ted Rall and Jamarl Thomas
Date: 2026-03-31
URL: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a9b1yqsUsx8
Duration: 3588

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[00:11] Good morning. You're watching Dprogram with Ted Rall and John Kiriakou. Robbie West is in and out today because his tummy is not feeling too good. So, we're sorry about that, Robbie. So, anyway, thanks for liking, following, and sharing the show. We're here Monday through Friday, 9:00 a.m. Eastern Time. Beginning tomorrow, uh supplementally, we will be doing an exclusively question and answer show. So, that'll be Wednesday, 12:00 noon tomorrow. Uh again, next week, Monday

[00:43] and Wednesday. So, that's the deal. Going from 5:00 to 7:00 hours a week, which I'm looking forward to. Um so, uh today we're going to be talking about this heinous new law, John, um that's just been uh passed by the Knesset in Israel and is very likely to be signed into law by Benjamin Netanyahu that basically um restores the death penalty by hanging in in Israel, but only for Palestinians, not for Israeli Jews. Right. But Israel's not an apartheid state. No, not an apartheid

[01:15] state at all. Uh basically, it's it's lynching. We'll get into that. Um Spain became the latest country to join France and Italy uh not allowing its airspace to be used for uh the US to attack or support the attack against Iran. Um a fully loaded Kuwaiti uh oil tanker um had a was fully set ablaze by the Iranians uh in the port of Dubai. If you look at the video, it's pretty impressive. Yeah. But they did manage finally to put it out. Um

[01:46] for environmental reasons alone, I'm glad they did, but holy cow. Um looks like now um the powers that be in official Washington are sort of um getting uh a clue that you know, Iran is winning and that they're trying to lure the US into a ground war uh, we're talking about >> I interrupt you on that, Ted? Please. >> There's a report that came out less than 5 minutes ago. I've got it right here. The Iran Iran National News Agency, INN, says an IRGC spokesperson, Brigadier General Ali

[02:17] Mohammad Naeini, said that Iranian missile strikes killed members of Israel's military intelligence. Iran reportedly fired dozens of missiles at the headquarters of the uh, Israeli mili- military intelligence agency, Aman, considered the backbone Mhm. >> of uh, military intelligence collection. Wow. Yeah, if true, that's a big deal. There's video. I I have no idea if the video is real or if it's AI, but this is what the what the Iranians are

[02:49] reporting. All right, we'll follow that and uh, if anybody hears anything about that, you know, put it into the chat. Um, please, by the way, um, put in your questions into the live chat. If you're watching on Rumble or YouTube live, um, in the 9:00 hour Eastern, uh, we have some leftover questions from uh, yesterday. We'll get to those uh, first thing. We'll also, uh, any Q&As that we questions that we don't get to today, we'll kick to into tomorrow and then everything gets asked during the Q&A and of course obviously it'll be a live chat

[03:20] and Q&A is basically anything that you want to know, anything. Um, Ron DeSantis signed a bill officially proclaiming Palm Beach International Airport will be named the President Donald J. Trump International Airport. Uh, we'll be talking about that and also the presidential library. You see the pictures >> with the big red, white, and blue uh, penis up on top. Very exciting. And the giant flag. I mean, oh my god. It's ridiculous. >> golden statues, not one. Two golden statues.

[03:51] >> Um, and of course copying the Reagan Library with an Air Force One in the in the lobby. Um, you know, John, the thing about that uh, you know, that library thing is sort of like people online, Republicans are posting comparisons of it to the Obama one in Chicago and they're like, "Which one's better looking?" I'm like, "Neither. They're both shit." >> awful. They're both Why do people insist on this either/or all the time? They're both awful. Both. Yeah, it's like we can we can get together. We can have bipartisanship on

[04:21] shitty architecture. Um, all right, so let's um, I guess we should we knock something off and then do some do some of the leftover questions. >> Absolutely. We can start with Israel. I mean, Yeah, let's do that. This is sickening. So, the Israeli Knesset, as you pointed out, has passed this law calling for um, the death penalty by hanging, but only for Palestinians who are convicted of taking a life during the commission of a terrorist act. But of course, it's the extreme right-wing

[04:53] government in Israel that decides what meets the criteria of a terrorist attack and what doesn't. And this would by definition not apply to uh, West Bank settlers uh, who attack and who are terrorists, who are terrorizing and attacking uh, you know, uh, Palestinians who are locals in order to um, you know, just to get rid of ethnically cleanse them and in many cases to steal their land. Yeah. And and so, yeah, I mean, basically uh, their their settler Ben Gvir was

[05:24] photographed, videotaped um, toasting this uh, passage of this law with champagne. He said, this is a quote, "We will count them, the hang the hanged Palestinians, one by one." He said while laughing. Yeah. This is a bloodthirsty government. John, um, at this point nobody can question that it's an apartheid state cuz this is I mean, even apartheid South Africa didn't have a separate legal code for whites and blacks. On paper >> right. >> an egalitarian society. It was just in

[05:55] practice it was they had apartheid. Um in this case this is they're legal they're codifying racial and uh and and the discrimination within the areas in their control. And I know what they're going to say is well this applies not to Israel it proper applies to the West Bank. But that's sophistry. They've controlled this territory since as long as you and I are alive. And it specifically it specifically exempts settlers who kill Palestinians

[06:25] from coverage. So if you're a settler you're just some guy from New Jersey who who goes to the West Bank opens fire on some Palestinian family you're good to go. But if you're a Palestinian who shoots the guy from New Jersey to protect your home from being seized by these American settlers you're hanged. It's a nice country. Yeah nice country. So the death penalty was abolished in 1954.

[06:56] The only exception was Adolf Eichmann who was hanged in 1962. >> And so basically I don't know how they justified that just by saying well war crimes are different or whatever because if there's no death penalty I don't know maybe they he was tried not under Israeli criminal law right? Um >> Yes. So so basically this is a country that's kind of been a small l attempt there's been a strong tradition of small l liberalism. The you know the whole kibbutz movement

[07:27] was a socialist movement. I mean there's no left at all there's no moderate at all. This is a far far right. John how is how is anyone going to sell in the United States? How are these Zionists going to be able to continue to defend Israel? I mean, I know they'll try, but how are they going to do it? >> They they they will. They'll try. Um but it's going to it's going to be one of those disingenuous things, Ted. How can you possibly defend something like this? It's disgusting.

[07:58] Can you imagine Equal justice under the law is absolutely How can you claim that you're a democracy if the only democracy in the Middle East uh if you don't have equal justice under the law? >> That's right. That's right. No, this this there there's just no upside to this. There's no way to defend it. There's just no way. I mean, do you think what do you think's going to happen when they start hanging Palestinians, which they will? And by the way, this is a mandatory sentence, John. I mean, like if you're found guilty of this offense Death.

[08:28] >> um they're supposed to hang you within 90 days. There's a few provisions for a slight delay, but probably not to be granted in most cases. No clemency is possible, right? So, later also if it turns out that the person's not guilty, uh got to do the scare quotes for that. Um well, there's no there's no takebacks. It's not like No. >> So, um When you're dead, you're dead. That's the end of it. So, how how on Earth are the same people who criticize Iran for hanging political dissidents uh how are they going to be able to

[08:58] criticize defend the Israelis? I mean, it's the same thing. I can actually easily see how some of these um some of these well, two camps. First of all, right-wingers on Capitol Hill. You know, they they view the death penalty as legit punishment and that it's better Let me rephrase. It's less bad to kill an innocent person than to allow a um

[09:29] a guilty person to live, okay? >> exactly the other way around. Exactly the other way. I'm I'm with you. Uh that's the one hand. On the other hand, among Democrats, I think that the the the most ardent Zionists among the Democrats are going to say, "Well, you know, terrorism, we don't want another 9/11. We don't want another October 7th." Or they'll just be like, "La la la la la. I can't hear you." They just won't comment on it. Sure. Sickening.

[09:59] >> Absolutely sickening. Uh and then I guess we could talk about um Spain cuz that's a pretty quick thing to get out of the way. So, Spain is uh pissing off the right and the Trump administration by not allowing um US uh Air Force to uh aircraft to cross. Uh apparently, that's a pretty big deal because traditionally, um Spanish airspace has been [ __ ]

[10:35] I don't know if Ted is frozen or if I'm frozen. Actually, can somebody let me know if Ted is frozen? Somebody in the chat? I would sure appreciate it. This thing has been happening. Gosh. Yeah, Ted's frozen. Okay. Okay, Ted's frozen. All right. Thank you. John's good. When we were

[11:06] getting ready to go on the show for like 20 minutes beforehand, I froze three times. You know what? So, I'm going to take this I'm going to take an opportunity till Ted comes on of saying that we got uh both Ted and I got an email from Scott yesterday saying that he believed it was a a mistake to focus yesterday on that issue that that happening. And I wanted to say thank you for that email Scott and um and your concerns are duly noted and I

[11:38] have to say in retrospect you're probably right. Yeah, I kind of agree with that, too. Yeah. I don't. I'll be the contrarian like usual. I mean, you go after my friends, I'm going to go after you. No, but we but we we should have been talking about the issues yesterday though, too. Well, I I will admit that after the show when I was replaying the show in my mind, I was thinking oh, that was kind of a pity party for John and Ted. And we we probably shouldn't have done

[12:09] that. >> Yeah, it shouldn't be about us. It really should be about the >> be about the news. That's true. I'm going to push back again because as as Ted knows Ted's frozen again, so yeah, it is what it is. No, it's John frozen. I think both frozen. No, I'm here. I'm here. John's frozen. Awesome. We're just going to just have We're just going to rotate. So, I'm picking my guts You go ahead. So, I'm just going to So, I'm picking my guts out and the two of you are taking turns freezing. This is going to be a great show. So, Oh. Oh, hey, I'm back.

[12:41] There we go. But no, I mean, seriously, here's how I look at this. This is your show. And what And when I talk about you, I'm talking about you, the viewer. This show would not exist without your being here. Your donations, your watch hours, the people watch the the people to tune in every single day and watch. If it was not for you, this show would not exist. And so, you all of you have a vested interest to know what is going on with the hosts of this show. The attacks that they go through. You all know what happened to me back in November.

[13:13] How's this any different? Serious question. That's You're right. If anything, it's worse because they're spoofing phone numbers of people that you know. They're spoofing your phone numbers that this guy was. And if you're butt hurt because we addressed this issue, that's a you problem. That's not a John and Ted problem. And for once it's not a Robbie problem, either. Yeah, and it's like how about just engage instead of harassing people who you disagree with, which frankly I don't do, John doesn't do, Robbie doesn't do.

[13:43] Like it's like, you know, look, there's lots of venues just like this one that you can use to express yourself and prove and, you know, make fun of us and show how we're wrong, right? >> And at the same time, we really did report this to the FBI yesterday. 100%. We really did report it to the to the two carriers, AT&T and T-Mobile, and they're on it. Like everybody's on it. Someone said, by the way, several people said like I thought John didn't like the FBI. I don't,

[14:13] except when they work for me. And they work for me, I'm a taxpayer. Yeah, I don't like the FBI, either. I don't like John and I both talked about it like, oh man, I hate to involve cops. I, you know, we hate involving cops. I'm not one of the, you know, if you see something, say something. If I see something, I don't say anything. But, you know, sometimes there it can't be helped. Mhm. So. >> Yep. All right, Robbie, you have some some some housekeeping. Yeah, let me get this out of the way before I go away again. Uh so, if you send me a super chat that we miss,

[14:44] um the the know the donation amount is nice, but I don't really need it. What really what I need is the question. If you send me the donation amount without a question, I don't know what question it is that you're trying to ask. So, really that's the biggest thing. And also, John now has a official TikTok. Yeah. >> my arm. He said, Robbie, I want to get on TikTok. I'm like, no, you don't want to go on TikTok. He said, yeah, I do. So, he now has a official TikTok at officialjohnkiriakou. They're on TikTok. So, he's there and he's on Rumble and I will be working on

[15:17] fluffing out that content all this week and just blasting stuff out. So, go follow. Also, I'm still on Cameo. I'm happy to say I had lunch on Friday with the CEO of Cameo. He came into town just to have lunch with me because I set an all-time record for the number of Cameos done in the month of March. Um and there I I'm third all-time in Cameos already behind only Brian

[15:48] Baumgartner, Kevin from The Office, and of all crazy people George Santos. What a What a rogues gallery. So, listen. If you want a Cameo, just go to cameo.com. Type in John. Just type in John and I pop right up, which they thought was hilarious. That is hilarious. And I I'll tell you who I who I passed to be number third. And he sent me a Cameo

[16:19] congratulating me. Was Johnny Sack, Vince Curatola from The Sopranos. Oh my god. He's like, "John Kiriakou, Johnny Sack here. I'm a big fan." He says, "You've dethroned me as the number three on Cameo. So, now the both of us are in the Cameo Hall of Fame. Congratulations." That's awesome. All right, Robbie. That it? We got We got everything covered on your end? All right, Robbie. I'm going to let you go back But y'all come over to Rumble. Come hang out. Weather's fine and the

[16:49] fam or Happy nausea. Okay. We'll see you later. >> Oh, and also, can you tag my TikTok in the chat so people know which one is actually mine? Yep. I'll do it. Thank you, buddy. Yeah, you're welcome. Okay. Okay, back to the news. >> know if I'm going to follow you over to TikTok. Probably not. Um okay. So, Spain. We got We got interrupted. Um is How important is this story? I think this is very important. Yesterday when we talked about We talked about Spain closing um

[17:19] its airspace to the US military. We also predicted that other countries would follow suit. And now other countries are following following suit. Italy. Yeah, Italy today said France is next. Yes, Ireland >> France already already said so. Oh, France already said so. And Ireland Ireland is you know, it it'll happen today. So you know, Donald Trump too has been so hypocritical about this. On the one hand he said, you know, screw

[17:51] NATO, we don't need NATO, we don't like NATO, we don't trust NATO, we threatened to invade Greenland and it Greenland's owned by Denmark which is a NATO country. Screw NATO. And then on the other hand he's like, why isn't NATO helping us? Well, wait a minute, you just said we don't need NATO, screw NATO. Now you're lamenting the fact that NATO is not helping us. First of all, you never consulted with NATO. Exactly. You never got them on board. Yeah, we never went to to the NATO countries and said, "Listen, we're

[18:21] going to invade Iran and so we're going to we're going to want your help." Never said a word. We just did what Netanyahu told us to do and then we just we're self-flagellating over the the fact that NATO doesn't want to jump in and fight our war for us. I don't understand this administration's seeming complete disinterest in buying. You know, whether it's domestically or internationally, they don't feel like they need to get anyone else involved and they want to go it alone and yet they want everyone to help them out.

[18:52] That's the part I don't get at all. When I when I want to do something on my own without, you know, my friends or family's approval, I just you know, I I don't I do that because I don't need or want their help. Why would and why would Trump think anything different? Yes. I have to agree. You know, there are going to be some NATO countries Greece being the most obvious that are going to carry Israeli water. This is This is something that I'm

[19:23] ashamed of as as a dual US-Greek national. The Greeks are doing it strictly for the money. Greece historically was the closest European country to the Palestinians. All the various Palestinian groups through the '70s, the '80s into the '90s had had representative offices in Athens and the and the PLO had an embassy in Athens. And then as soon as natural gas was discovered under Cypriot waters

[19:54] and the Cypriots and the Greeks needed help to lift the gas and the and the field stretched all the way to Israel and the Israelis jumped in and said, "Hey, not only will we help you lift this gas, but Turkey's our enemy and Turkey's your enemy. So, why don't the three of us huddle on this?" And the Greeks have been in bed with the Israelis ever since. Sad. As As As Trump would say, hashtag sad. Um Christian Banks, let's ask do some of these questions. 2656, thanks for the five bucks. Was a Trump re-election the

[20:26] only shot at sparking a socialist revolution by exposing the US? If Kamala won, we'd have been pacified by {quote} {unquote} democracy. Hashtag anarchy. Look, I would love to see a socialist revolution. Nothing would make me happier. Um but I don't think we are in a pre-revolutionary moment. I think we're in a counter-revolutionary fascist moment. Um I'm about to write my column probably later today for this week and I I think we are officially

[20:57] entering what you know, Robert Paxton would officially define as a as a as a fascist state. It has been like, you know, well, we we're in danger, but we're not there. Um but I don't I don't think that's true anymore. Um Oh my god, John. Oh, there's John. Okay. John >> know what the heck is wrong with my connectivity today. I have I'm like the strength of signal strength is blown the doors off the place. I'm plugged right into the wall with the ethernet cable. >> Oh, you're not It's not stable, though.

[21:27] It's not stable. I don't understand it. All right. So, let's Anyway, so in terms of that question, if Kamala had won, we'd have been pacified. That's true. Um we would have been brunch back brunch Democrats would have prevailed. Um thanks for the 999 uh from Oh my god, this is so embarrassing to say. Uh from Brady. Okay, so the question were thoughts This is for you, John. Thoughts on James Fishback. I got in a little trouble with James

[21:58] Fishback last time. So, somebody asked me about James Fishback three or four weeks ago and I said, I saw the guy on Tucker and he made a lot of really great points. And I said, if you're in Florida and you're a voter of registered Florida voter and you're going to vote in the Republican primary, take a look at James Fishback. And within seconds somebody blurted out on on X that I've endorsed

[22:30] James Fishback. Oh, no. And the next thing you know is there are pictures of James Fishback with Nick Fuentes and with the Tates and all of a sudden I got burned. I will say, James Fishback I I like James Fishback's position on AIPAC and on political support for Israel. I like it very much. I think he makes a lot of sense. He's pulling under 5% in the Florida primary.

[23:01] He's very young. I think he has a future, a political future. I think he needs to drop the likes of Nick Fuentes and make a name for himself. Um, on on the issue of Israel, I like his position. I don't know about his other positions. I'm not a Republican. I'm not an alt-right. I'm not a conservative in any way. Uh, so this I'm not endorsing James Fishback. I've never endorsed James Fishback, but

[23:33] I'm interested to watch that race. John, a little two breaking pieces of news. First of all, that Russian ship containing 730,000 barrels of oil has arrived in Cuba. Why did the Trump administration agree to that after, you know, I mean, is it another taco moment? What's going on? The Iranians are kicking our asses right now. We can't risk both the Iranians and the Russians kicking our asses at the same time. I think that's really what it comes down to. Would the Russians have attacked us

[24:04] militarily if I doubt it, but I think the Russians could have made things difficult in a whole bunch of different ways if we had if we had tried to to block this shipment of fuel. And to tell you the truth, as crazy as it sounds, the US Embassy is going to be a recipient of that fuel, too. Well, that's funny. My my take is that the is that the is that the if Cuba collapses now, the US is really going to have a tan full its hands full cuz it's going to have to create some kind of

[24:35] law and order regime involving US troops down there, right? To to try to keep things from falling apart too quickly. Also, Yes. Uh, the US This is from Reuters. They always have They've been doing a lot of yeoman's work lately. Oh, they've been terrific the last few weeks. US counterterrorism officials are planning a summit on targeting antifa and all and the left in general. What the [ __ ] That's why I had my French passport renewed.

[25:05] What? I have been telling my friends and family members that I intend to buy a condo in Athens by the end of the year. And then about a week ago, a little business opportunity popped up and I thought, "You know what? I've got a couple extra dollars for the first time in 20 years. Maybe I'll think about this little business opportunity and put my money there instead." Mhm. No. No. The house is Yeah. You can do business business comes

[25:37] and goes. Personal safety is forever. Yeah. Um, Tariq, thanks for the $2. On a lighter note, 12 tons of Kit Kat bars, I remember that I read that, were hijacked en route to Poland. Yeah. >> Nestle had to publish a presser. What's the world coming to? John, also the what no What he's talking about is the tru- not only is is all that chocolate missing and the truck, the driver is MIA, too, but nobody seems to care about that. >> Unbelievable. It's like Tucker Carlson's entire shipment of chewing tobacco

[26:09] disappeared a couple of weeks ago. It's like millions of dollars all packed into an 18-wheeler. It's probably being sold out of the back of somebody's trunk in Brooklyn. Yeah, no doubt. No doubt about that. I used to see that all the time. I bought a TV that way out of I think someone's car one time. My dad bought my mom a fur that way. The same dude sold me the first Public Enemy like bootleg tape. Like so obviously there was some sort of connection there. By the way, it was it's highly collectible and very good.

[26:42] Raul Gabreu, thanks for for the $4.99. First of all, thank you, gentlemen. This show has found me at a perfect time in my life. What would be some advice you would give a new father? I'm so I love that question. >> a great question. It In fact, it's an it's a question that I've answered at least a dozen times on on Cameo. May I start? Please, you have five. I have five kids. The advice is for your wife. Tell your wife to sleep every time the

[27:12] baby sleeps. Mhm. Okay? The baby's going to be up like only 4 hours a day. Right? But those 4 hours are in the middle of the night. So, tell her to sleep every time the baby sleeps. The laundry can wait, the shopping can wait. Make grocery delivery your friend. Don't worry if the house gets a little, you know, dirty, it needs to be vacuumed. That's what That's what grandmothers are for. Mhm. When they come to help. So, tell your wife to sleep at every

[27:42] opportunity. You should sleep, too. But do whatever you can to to backfill what needs to be done in the house. Treat her like a queen. She needs kindness right now. That's all 100% correct. Um my advice would be, and this is for moms, too, the marriage comes first, the kid comes a very close second, but the marriage has to be first cuz that's what's holding it together for the kid. I think a lot of American parents don't do that. They put

[28:13] their kids first and their marriage second, and then they have done up miserable, tired, and and divorced, and it sucks. That's right. Um A weird Monday uh thanks for Hogs Candyland. Thanks for the $5. Um weird Monday becomes crash out Tuesday. I don't know how this ends. Thanks for the reply on X. John made my day better. Thanks, McGrath. Thanks for the five Australian dollars. John, I bet Ben Shapiro will still say Israel isn't apartheid. And Ted, I have ADHD, and people call me the R-word, but I give

[28:43] you the pass. And hi, love you, Rob. Thank you. Um uh Manchild 5000, two bucks. Thank you. Good morning. Is there any thought to whether Iran or their proxies are planning symbolic or high optics provocations specifically timed to coincide to coincide with Passover? If so, they deserve it I in my humble opinion. That wouldn't surprise me at all. Both sides do that. Yeah. That's like routine. Yeah.

[29:14] And symbolism is very important especially in the Arab world, right? Like um Bugs and Clowns, thanks for the $5. Hey guys, John I've never heard you speak in Greek. I would love to hear it. Thank you for all you do and have a great day. Thank you. But first of all, the running Delphi, thank you for the 999. Why Athens over Thessaloniki? Um

[29:48] I Athens since the first time I saw it I fell in love with the place and it was kind of a [ __ ] city in 1985 when I went the first time and having come from Rome and and having seen this gigantic difference between Rome which was pristine and Athens which was covered from top to bottom with graffiti, I still fell in love with the place. Why over Thessaloniki? Only because of ease of travel. I absolutely love and adore Thessaloniki.

[30:18] It's one of the great cities of Europe. It's clean, it's friendly, there's a ton of stuff to do, the housing prices are a fraction of what Athens is and Athens is one of the cheapest places to live in in Europe. But Athens is just so full of life, there's so much action, it's a 24-hour city, it's a magnificent place for for music and art and food and you're a hop, skip,

[30:49] and a jump from from anywhere, whether it's by boat or by plane. I just love the place, and I want an apartment that has I don't care if this apartment is a 100 square feet. I want an in-your-face view of the Parthenon. And that's what I will have. Maybe you'll be the new US ambassador to Greece, and then you will have such a view. Um D D D D D Jik, thanks for the 99 cents. Um Sam Adams, thanks for the $4.99. So curious to ask John, in your executive

[31:20] briefings, how often would Chamber of Commerce business names be mentioned? Frequently. Yeah, frequently. Um yeah, I'm not sure if I should say more than that, but I will tell you that many, many times I've been down there. At the Chamber of Commerce headquarters. Cat Quest 1999, thank you so much. Good morning, gentlemen. Thank you for what you do, and thank you for that. Um D Jik, um thanks for the $1.99. Additionally, John, did you like Obama

[31:51] before the prison stuff? I liked Obama for a minute. I I took I I My my ex and I went to uh went to the inauguration in uh January of 2009. And almost immediately he announced a continuation of the Bush foreign policy. You know, he he said the right things about withdrawing from Iraq. But the foreign policy was decidedly

[32:21] neoliberal. I mean, freaking Hillary Clinton as Secretary of State? When we've got some time, I'll tell you the whole Hillary Clinton as Secretary of State story. Okay. But um but yeah, it's my my support for Obama lasted a minute. Yeah, I was skeptical. I was high I voted for I voted for Obama. I was highly Obama skeptical because he had run against the Iraq war and then I checked his voting record in the Senate and he had voted six out of six times as a senator to fund the Iraq war.

[32:53] >> right. >> And I was like, that guy's full of [ __ ] But I also thought we really needed a first black president and it was 250 years overdue, so um I regret I regret that vote though. I wouldn't have voted for McCain um but Deb's Farm, thanks so much for the $20. Last week John thought the government shutdown was over then the house came back with their own version. What do you think about this? >> Right, you know, we should have mentioned that on yesterday on Monday and we had we we ran out of time feeling

[33:23] sorry for ourselves. So um yeah, I mean the conventional wisdom here in Washington was okay, the Senate passed uh a budget for TSA the house is just going to fall in line and then the president's going to sign it and the Republicans in the house rejected it. I think everybody in Washington was surprised by this. And so Donald Trump moved some money around, signed an executive order, which I think he's actually not allowed to do

[33:53] uh because the money Yeah, that's >> hasn't been authorized. No, he's not allowed to do that. >> He's not allowed to do You can't do it. But then what's going to happen? Somebody's going to sue him, it's going to take 6 months, by by then everybody's forgotten about it and it's overtaken by events anyway. But isn't he going to regret this because now there's no pressure on the Democrats at all, the long lines have vanished at the airports. The Democrats won and are sitting pretty. Yeah, the Democrats won on this. Yeah. Uh Porsche uh Porsche John sent $5. Just bought my first house

[34:25] with my wife and just wanted to share the blessings with y'all. I think John's chances of a partner good, it's the year of good things for guys named John. Let's hope so. Sparrow, thanks for the Australian $2. Saudi monarchy being an OSS MI6 placement? No. I don't think so because the Saudi monarchy was a result of a civil war between the Al Saud family and the Rashid family that took place in the 1920s and 1930s. Mhm. Um OSS wasn't even a thing until the start of the Second

[34:56] World War and the CIA wasn't a thing until the passage of the National Security Act of 1947. So, I don't think so. Besides, that was all seen as the British area of interest. Apec test dummy, thanks for the dollar. How are who stated the term hate crime? John, I'm doing this from memory, but I but I think this started in the 1980s. I think it came out of the left. It came out of the Democratic Party. Um and the idea was that uh you know,

[35:28] racial bias incidents should be Yeah. more severely than, you know, like if you kill someone because you want their money, it shouldn't be as serious as if you kill someone cuz you don't like the color of their skin. Uh for the record, I [ __ ] hate the idea of hate crimes as an idea. Um you know, if you kill someone, you've killed them. Why you killed them is you know, part of the theory of the prosecution, but it shouldn't be it shouldn't affect the punishment in my opinion. >> Yeah. Ted. Um the term hate crime emerged in the United States in the

[35:58] mid-1980s, coined by journalists, civil rights activists, and advocacy groups, especially the Anti-Defamation League of B'nai B'rith to describe >> to be a legitimate group. >> to be a legitimate group with a lovely headquarters building. Yes. Uh it was it was used in 1985 and 1986 to describe a surge in attacks against Asians, blacks, and Jews. Yeah, okay. So, hey, my memory's not failing me. >> No, you you hit it on the head. Huxlex, five bucks. Are you aware that the

[36:29] former Shah publicly soured on Israel before his ouster in 1979, possibly the reason for him being deposed? Well, it probably didn't help him to be to to stay in power, right? But I was aware of that. Yeah. Um you know, this kind of theory that the >> an Israeli embassy in Tehran and it was downgraded to an Israeli interest section by the time the Shah was overthrown. So, it probably Do you think that the main effect there was that he had less

[36:59] access to intelligence cooperation with the Mossad and therefore knew less about what was going on? Yeah, I do. Um James Kelly, thanks for the five. Uh do you think the new law is because they're losing power, kind of like how the Nazis fast-tracked mass killing before they were That's a good That's a good point. I hadn't considered that. I think it's part of it. I think it's also like when a country is spinning is is going down the toilet and they just stop caring

[37:30] what everyone else thinks. Um you know, that's they're so isolated. They have their heads so far up their own asses and they think like we're all alone, we can't count on anyone, we have to do things our way. It's it's the logic of radicalization. Mhm. I I think it's a huge mistake for from a Zionist point of view. You know, you're >> Yeah. The Zionists' biggest problem is that they're perceived as being main like cruel maniacs. This isn't going to help. I have to agree.

[38:03] No, this is just going to piss people off. Trent's son, member for 3 months. Guys, it's free content for us. Look at the views. All right, thank you. Uh Tobby, thanks for the $7.99 Australian. John, have you met with anyone with remote viewing ability and can you confirm if it's real and do you have any stories about it? Um in in my experience it was not real. It was something that the CIA >> What is remote viewing? Uh it's being able to like move things with your mind

[38:35] or implant ideas in other people with your mind. >> Yeah, like telekinesis, ESP. The CIA very much wanted it to be a thing because they wanted to try to use it against the Soviets. But um but it never amounted to anything and they studied it for since like 1950 from 1952 to 1975. Was it part of MK Ultra? Yes. Awesome. I love that [ __ ] So weird. Um

[39:05] okay. Um mhm. Okay. Uh Okay, Morshed. Thanks for the five Canadian dollars. What do you think about Bangladesh's new government that is not pro-India like the previous one? Will we see an influence war there between India and China? Yes. You know, interesting thing about the Bangladeshis. I've always been very interested in Bangladesh for a couple of reasons. Just as background, three quarters of the country

[39:36] is 10 ft above sea level or less. And so they have these awful typhoons almost every year and thousands of people get wiped up wiped out. So why do they not go to higher ground? Because there are among the world's most poisonous snakes and man-eating wolves that live in the higher ground. Awesome. What country? Do you remember like Bangladesh like I think this was about

[40:07] 30 years ago when they were kind of like it was kind of identified as like ground zero for climate change. Because they're so they're so low, they were all going to be flooded away and at one point there was even a scheme where Bangladesh's government was negotiating with both India and Pakistan to relocate their entire populations there to one or the other and they were asking if it was India and Pakistan were both saying we might be willing to take your whatever 300 million people or whatever it is

[40:38] but we want an extra vote at the UN so we can outvote the other one Pakistan outvoting India India although I'm like there's 211 number states so but do you remember that it was like a bizarre like episode of course that's kind of like well you guys are just live there with the man-eating wolves. I I had a teacher Mrs. Polina in 11th grade world cultures she had been CIA officer which I didn't know until until I became one and she told me

[41:09] she was a CIA officer she retired and went back to Newcastle Pennsylvania and taught high school but she she used to say all the time when we were studying the United Nations that every country in the world gets one vote except the Soviet Union which gets two and that was true because Ukraine SSR had its own vote as if it were its own country for all those years and nobody could ever explain why. What do you think so do you think

[41:39] you know Bangladesh which used to be East Pakistan might have a rapprochement with Pakistan thus altering the whole balance of power in South Asia. >> enough time has passed where they haven't been in each other's hair I mean we're talking about 55 years now. So I wouldn't be surprised relations with India are are good relations with Pakistan have become much better and and Bangladesh has weathered a lot of real

[42:11] political upheaval over the last 10 years. With the operative word being weathered. I think that they're in a much stronger political position now than they were 5 years ago, 10 years ago. And maybe they can start calling some shots. Gringo, thanks for the five bucks. Hey John and Ted, hope you're having a great day. Wondering what you thought the best way to learn Arabic is. Well, don't ask me, ask John. Also, what other languages are most prominent in the Middle East these days to learn? Yeah. Well, Arabic of course by far is

[42:43] the most important >> lingua franca. You can learn it is and you can learn any one of the, you know, 19 different dialects. Um yeah. Farsi might be useful. Farsi would most definitely be useful. And Farsi's far, far easier to learn because it's an Indo-European a European language and Arabic is a Semitic language. Um you know, it used to be so hard. I I made this recommendation just the other day. Somebody asked me. Um Rosetta Stone is outstanding. Duolingo's

[43:15] even better. You can do it on your phone. But, what you really need for a a language as difficult as Arabic is you need a human being with whom to converse. And so, think about the local community college. You know, you can take an Arabic class for a couple of hundred bucks and have a human being teaching you and a human being with whom you can have a conversation every every time that you go. So, you take a look at Rosetta Stone, take a look at Duolingo, but check out the community college. Very

[43:46] cool. Um John, thanks for the sorry, Super Telfa, thanks for the 1999. John, are you familiar with Wasfi Tal of Jordan? Do you see another country having a leader like him? Who ordered his assassination? Was it the CIA or the king of Jordan? Ted, can I make an impact without a platform in the States? You know, Wasfi that's a uh Wasfi Tal was the uh was the prime minister of Jordan. Uh he he died many, many years ago. It was like in the '60s or the '70s, to the

[44:18] best of my recollection. Um he was charismatic. Um you know, to tell you the truth, I always believed it was the Palestinians that killed him. Mhm. There was this period from like 1968 to 1975 where the Palestinian the the the the left-wing Palestinian groups really believed that they could take Jordan. Mhm. They could overthrow

[44:50] the uh the king and take Jordan. Officially, it was Black September that killed Wasfi Tal. It was Black September September that was actually fighting on the steps of the palace to kill King Hussein, too. Literally on the steps of the palace. Um and I think it says a lot that that he was buried in the uh in the royal cemetery despite the fact that he's he wasn't royal. Mhm. Um that's that's the level of respect that the royal family had for him.

[45:20] Um can you make an impact without a platform in the states? Yes. Just look at the Iranians and their AI Lego videos. They're making a massive impact in the United States. Um yeah, with the internet, absolutely. You don't have to be here. Um Sir Sethly, $4.99, thank you so much. Ted, do you know Aaron McGruder? Uh I used to. And can you convince him to come out of retirement? That I doubt. He's like the avatar. When the world needed him most, he vanished. Aaron McGruder was the creator of the comic

[45:50] strip and TV show Boondocks. And uh in my opinion, uh he suffered from having too much success at too early a young age. He was launched in syndication in his mid-20s with hundreds of newspapers. For most cartoonists, that's something that even back in the heyday of print media would take years to build up a list like that. He got too much money, too much influence, too much power, things came too easy, and I think he burned out. Um and I don't know what he's up to

[46:21] nowadays, but Aaron, if you're watching, uh call. I'd love to I'd love to catch up. Um Waterways, thanks for the $5. Hey John, following up since another uh fan asked, "Any plans to join Stavros Halkias on his podcast Stavy's World? It may be a lot of >> I'd love it. I would love to do that. If if you know him, please please introduce us. Uh Trip D, this is a follow-up to yesterday's uh bullshittery. Thanks for the $4.99. Ted and John, if someone has

[46:52] access to your phone contacts and can turn on and off things on your phone, then there's malware on it. Factory reset. I can do that. Okay, thanks. Thanks for that. >> just do a factory reset. By the way, your phone runs faster after you do that. Um uh Do you have Do you have to physically reload all of your uh apps one at a time? No, um but some Yeah, no, it's They should just all come right back. Okay. If you have every If you have cloud storage. Make sure you have a backup before you do that. I'm looking at Stavy Halkias.

[47:25] He's right here in Baltimore. There There's got to be a way to get in touch with him. I'll I'll reach out. Truth uh The Dark Truth AI, um thanks for the £5. Hey guys, John, what do you think Greece and Albania? What do you think will Greece and Albania be a second Israeli state? All these lunatics buying properties in both countries. You know, this is a This is a thing. The Israelis are buying up Greek, Cypriot, and Albanian real estate faster

[47:55] than anybody else in the world. And I've mentioned a couple times online or not or not online on the show. I've been watching Athens real estate for a long time because I've I've been thinking about buying for a long time and the prices have doubled in less than 10 years. The prices have doubled since the start of COVID and it's all because of Israeli, Russian and Chinese real estate speculators. But the Israelis aren't buying it just for investment purposes. The Israelis are

[48:27] buying property just in case things turn to [ __ ] in Israel and they have to bug out. Um and that's especially true in Cyprus. They're buying vast tracts of land in Cyprus. Not just apartments like they are in Athens. Seek the truth. If we ever ran for president, which party would we run for and who would your VP? I really hate how the DNC screwed Bernie Sanders in my opinion is the reason why we are where we are. Well, that's a big part of it. Um well, obviously I would not be able

[48:58] to run as a Republican. Um uh But I couldn't run as a Democrat either. That's my problem. You know what I I think that the I think that the Libertarian Party is not a true Libertarian Party. I think it's kind of a like a mainstream Libertarian Party and I think that the Libertarians and the Greens ought to join together. I'd be down for that. I would choose you as my VP. Um uh that way we can I'm here. Total Gen X ticket. That would be fine. Uh hey guys,

[49:30] will you ever have Mehdi Hasan on the show? Oh, absolutely. Why not? In fact, I I've met him a number of times. I've been on his show and I've got a friend who's very close to him. I could get his number. Robbie, uh make it make it so, please. Um okay. Uh Thanks Vilmar Najar for the five Canadian dollars. If Universal Taco happens, then what does it mean for GCC? Would Bahrain regime collapse and Iran just become richer and military power

[50:00] more militarily powerful? The United States will never, ever permit the Bahraini government to collapse. Never. We're joined at the hip with the Bahrainis. Bahrain is the headquarters of the fifth fleet. And you know, Admiral William Crowe, who used to be the joint the the chairman of the joint chiefs of staff under Bill Clinton. Admiral Crowe came out to Bahrain when I was there. He had been the commander of CENTCOM, so he lived in Bahrain for 2 years. I was

[50:32] his control officer, so I spent the whole week with him and I took his wife carpet shopping and all kinds of stuff. That was a weird experience. I took her carpet shopping like all day and then I dropped her off at the ambassador's residence and I said, "Mrs. Crowe, I'm going to be back in 2 hours. I'm going to go home, take a shower, shave, put on my suit and come back for the dinner." So, I go back I I go home, I shower, shave, get dressed, I go back to the ambassador's residence and I go in and she says, "Hello, I'm Shirley Crowe."

[51:03] And I said, "Yes, ma'am. I'm John Kiriakou. We spent the entire day today together and I I did your negotiating for the carpets that you bought." And she says, "Of course you did." And I was like, "What the [ __ ] just happened?" I spent you literally the entire day with her. Anyway, Admiral Crowe said, and and this is a quote that every Bahraini knows and every Bahraini quotes and every American ambassador quotes,

[51:34] "Pound for pound, Bahrain is the best friend to the United States in the world." And the Bahrainis love that and it's true, pound for pound, cuz Bahrain is the size and same population as Pittsburgh. Ounce for ounce. Yeah, ounce for ounce. So, we will never ever allow anything to happen to Bahrain to upset the apple cart. Um I think also at this kind of this question kind of suggests where, you

[52:05] know, that Iran will suddenly become richer and more militarily powerful. I think they want nothing more than overthrowing the Bahraini royal family. >> But in the long run, I think Iran's going to come out of this you know, much better off. But they're going to have to go through some really dark times between now and then. Uh you know, but you know, basically fending off the Israelis and the Americans. Okay, we have a few ads here. Uh still haven't tried 1775 coffee? Now's your shot. The 1775 starter kit just dropped. Only 1,000 units. You're getting the bold dark roast that it's

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[53:07] 1775coffee.com/studio and grab your starter kit before they're gone. Bold beans, clean fuel, and a morning routine that stands for something just like Rumble does. And I just ordered some 1775 coffee, so we will see if Robbie is right about all that. But I bet he is. Um so, uh questions leftover question. What do we think about the cyberattack on Striker by a supposedly Iranian-affiliated hacker group? And what do you think about closed primaries

[53:38] as an independent in Kentucky? I can't vote in any primaries. I'm in Massie's district and would vote for him if I was able to. I'm on team closed primaries. I don't think Republicans should be able to vote in a Democratic primary or vice versa, but I understand the problem. I'm I'm also for closed primaries, but in Virginia we don't have party registration. Mhm. So, you're just you register as a voter and then when you walk in to the voting

[54:08] building, whatever it's called, they say, "You want a Democratic ballot or you want a Republican ballot?" And so, if the for example, when Obama was running for re-election, what's the what's the fun in just voting for an uncontested Obama? I said, "Give me the Republican ballot." And I could, you know, vote against the person I hate the most. Well, you're kind of making my case for closed our case for closed ballot closed primaries there.

[54:38] So, let's I'd be I do want to talk. Well, let's take this question. Al Resnick, thanks for the five Canadian dollars. Did Reagan's campaign reach out to the Iranians asking them to hold hostages to bash Carter in exchange for a better deal Iran contra. >> That's That's what Gary Sick said. Looks like it. Gary Sick was a was a Carter National Security Council senior director. He became a very important, very prominent professor at Columbia University. And Gary Sick coined the term October

[55:09] Surprise. And Gary Sick maintained that the that the Reagan campaign through um Bob or Bill, rather, Bill Casey, who became CIA director, he was Reagan's campaign manager, he was in touch with the Iranians asking the Iranians to not release the hostages until after the election. Which they were only an hour or two after Reagan uh 1 hour. As soon as Reagan put his hand in the air and took the oath of office, the hostages were

[55:40] released and were on a a plane back home. It certainly looked like that. And then, of course, there's also that incident during 1968's campaign when Richard Nixon's campaign allegedly reached out to the North Vietnamese and said, "Hey, you know, hang tight. Uh don't do don't sign a peace deal with Johnson. You'll get a better deal from us." Which, if true, was not true to the North Koreans. Yeah. Both cases would be treason, right? I mean, um thanks for the $6.99, Andrew. Much appreciated. Um Dkick, thanks for the

[56:11] $1.99. Is the mayor of New York's religion a problem in politics? Shouldn't be. I don't think so. Um thanks for the Hi-Yogs. Thanks for the $9.99. Did you happen to see that the New York Post said that an influencer stripper on Instagram is getting overwhelming messages from young soldiers scared to deploy next week. Sad to see. >> Oh. You I can't even begin to tell you how many young soldiers have reached out to me over the last couple of weeks saying, "This is not what I signed up

[56:41] for." Actually, it is. Sorry. >> I referred one guy to Quaker House in North Carolina. They They assist conscientious objectors. And we had a long conversation. Um I said, "This is This is a tough decision, but you got to do what's in your heart. I agree with that. >> the cards fall. I have very little sympathy, though, John, cuz it's a [ __ ] blank check. You When you sign up with the military, they can send you to any [ __ ] stupid war they want and kill you any stupid way they want. Don't

[57:14] do it. Like, you know, not under this government. Um spell Icup. Thanks for the $1.99. Um okay. So, we're going to have to leave I leave the questions that remain until tomorrow. Uh I promise you we will get to them early on the show tomorrow morning and we're doing the Q&A show for the first time ever at 12:00 noon. Okay, so Ron DeSantis John Oh my god. I love this part. It's going to be Palm Beach International Ronald it'll be Donald J.

[57:46] Trump International Airport not Palm Beach anymore. Um and I love this part. The Trump Trump and his family have applied for trademarks that are pending for merchandise that will be sold to and about and for the airport clothing for pets and dogs, bags, watches, jewelry, umbrellas, tie clips, socks. I don't know about steaks. Um but along with airport lounges will also be licensed. So there's going to be massive Grift

[58:17] going on here. Um Will this stay like after Trump after the spirit after the um after the after trumpism is no more? Will they just go back will they change the name back to like a sports stadium? Uh-oh. John is is frozen. Um we will have to leave that there. The timing is perfect. Uh if you have to be frozen you might as well be frozen at the end of the show. Thanks everyone for tuning in. Oh John there you are. We will

[58:48] >> John Kiriakou here. Lucy tells me Okay, I'm I'm I'm leaving I'm taking John out of there cuz he's on the phone. Uh please stay tuned. Um we will be uh coming up with T and My Show with Ted Rall and Manila Chan right now. Uh John Kiriakou will and I will be back for D Program tomorrow at 9:00 a.m. and at 12:00 noon tomorrow. So 2 hours of D Program. First hour is the regular show. Second hour at 12:00 noon is going to be Q&A. Thanks everyone and uh see y'all tomorrow. Bye.
