Title: Venture Social
Show: Venture Social
Date: 2025-09-29
URL: https://youtu.be/-RYBNlTw_44
Duration: 12:00

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[00:00] peers asked me if I thought Jeffrey Epstein was an Israeli Mossad agent. I said, "Absolutely, positively yes." And General Yet, he he sat there like this the whole show. He just goes and then Duritz is like, "I object to that." And constantly interrupting. It's not my nature to interrupt or if I do, I apologize for interrupting. Finally,

[00:30] Pierce told him, "Will you just shut your mouth and let the man answer the question?" So, I said, "Look, the Israelis have always spied on the United States deeply." I said on my very first day at the CIA where all the new hires were sitting in the in the CIA auditorium called the bubble and we're getting briefed by like the head of insurance and the head of this and the head of that and this is how you fill out your time card and this is how you pick your health insurance and and the

[01:00] head of security came to brief us and um he said the most important thing that we're going to need to consider is the issue of counter intelligence. There are enemies behind every bush and they all want to know what we're working on and what we know about them. We have to protect ourselves. So he said, "Rule number one, there's a steakhouse right down the road. It's the nearest restaurant to the CIA's headquarters. Don't ever go in that restaurant." Why?

[01:34] Because the KGB thinks that we all eat at that restaurant. So anytime the day or night, everybody in that restaurant is a KGB agent >> waiting for the CIA guy to come in and who who forgot to take his badge off. Right. >> Yeah. >> Don't ever go in that restaurant. Secondly, he said even our friends spy on us. He said, "Many of you will come into contact with the two Israeli intelligence officers who are based at

[02:04] the Israeli embassy in Washington. There's a representative from Mossad and a representative from Shinbet. He said the FBI has been able to identify 187 undeclared Israeli Mossad agents spread all across the United States. >> Wow. >> Spying on our defense contractors to steal our defense secrets. Now, we give the Israelis 99% of what we have. They

[02:34] want to steal that last 1%. >> There's a famous story when we built the uh F-35. >> We said to them, "Look, we developed this new fighter jet. It's stealth. It's this. It's that. It's amazing. Everybody's going to get it. It's the F-35." They said, "We want it." We said, "Great. We're going to give it to you. We're going to call it the F-35I for Israel, and we're going to just very slightly degrade the avionics." So, God forbid if it's shot down by the Iranians or the Syrians or the Russians and they

[03:06] get the avionics, they won't be able to duplicate it. >> They said, "No, we want the F-35 with with the avionics." We said, "No, no, okay." So, they're trying to steal the avionics. At the same time, the UAE came to us and said, "Hey, we want that F-35." And we said, "Great. We're going to give it to you. We're going to call it the F-35E. E for Emirates and we're gonna slightly degrade the avionics. So, god forbid if the Iranians shoot it down, they can't get it and reverse engineer it. They

[03:36] said, "Fine, no problem." But the Israelis are here to steal the >> avionics. That's one thing I never was able to comprehend. I mean, such a friendly nation >> who shares intelligence on >> constant B. Not not them, us. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yes. Yes. Yes. You're 100% right. Yes. >> Constantly all the time. >> Right. >> And we sell all types of weapons to Israel and that's why it's such a small country,

[04:06] >> right? >> But yet so powerful, >> right? >> Yeah. >> Why still try to steal secrets? >> Why still have these agents, the Israelis truly believe that they're alone in the world? >> Really, >> they truly believe it. >> So that's their culture. That's their psychology. >> It is. Yes. >> Trust nobody but themselves. >> Tell us the story about when the CIA stopped accepting gifts from from >> Yeah. When I my my very first liaison

[04:38] briefing was very early 1990. I was brand new. I had only been in the CIA for three or four months and my boss said, "Hey, you're going to do your first liaison briefing." Now, when you're in the director of intelligence, you're declared to a whole bunch of foreign intelligence services, especially when you work on an enemy country like Iraq, like I did. So, you know, most people go through their entire 30-year careers and they're declared to two or three, four or five foreign intelligence services where the

[05:08] CIA says to the head of the other intelligence service, "This is my guy. He's a CIA officer." Okay. So, you're declared. They know you're a CIA officer because you told them you are. Yeah. >> Okay. So, the Israelis would come to headquarters for their briefings. We we call them intelligence exchanges and um they would always bring gifts, >> right? But the gifts would always have listening devices embedded in them >> with batteries. Like they brought this big seal of the CIA. Oh, we made this

[05:40] beautiful seal of the CIA as a gift for you. You should put it in the director's conference room. and it's completely embedded with microphones and batteries. And we're like, "Guys, you you got to stop doing this. You can't do this." It got to the point where >> their response when you like bluntly say, "Hey, >> oh well. H you can't blame us for trying. It's not funny. >> There is there's no consequence. There's like >> no because then they're going to go to the Washington Post and say the CIA is being mean to us."

[06:12] And then Congress is going to get involved. say what's the matter with you? Do you think I mean with certainty you said Jeffrey Epstein was a massage agent working here in the US as a sleeper cell or whatever they call >> I believe he was an access agent which is a very specific kind of >> one director right is that is that what it means an access agent when you have one directorate you have to complete this task >> no >> what it means is let's say you're you're the head of Mossad >> and you want to know exactly what's

[06:43] going on in Bill Clinton's mind or Prince Andrew or Bill Gates or any of these other people. You're not going to recruit Bill Clinton. He's not going to take your money. Yeah. >> And then report back to you like uh you know behind the 7-Eleven at 11:00 at night. >> So you do the next best thing. >> You recruit an agent >> who's friends with Bill Clinton or who can become friends with Bill Clinton. >> So you're telling me he wasn't an agent. He became one. He was recruited to become an agent. Okay. That's what it

[07:14] was. >> So, initially, you know, speaking of Gelain Maxwell, her dad being a Mossad agent, >> I wouldn't be surprised if her dad said to Mossad, "Listen, my daughter's friendly with this guy. You might want to take a look at him." >> I see. >> Mhm. >> And do you think that shapes uh foreign policy? >> 100%. Yes. to have these compromise at this these types of people of you know this caliber this level >> and we're not even sure if they have

[07:45] anything on Trump >> and that's why Trump just >> like this attacks Iran without a question >> right yep >> is that a possibility >> yes >> okay >> now Trump will say that Netanyahu came asked him to bomb Iran he said no this time Netanyahu said, "If you don't, we're going to use nuclear weapons." So Trump did the right thing. He did the the friendly thing of bombing them with non-nuclear weapons. So he actually saved a lot of Iranian

[08:17] lives. I mean, >> that's that's what he wants the the storyline to be. We have no idea what the truth is. >> You spoke of conspiracy theorists. I mean, uh, the recent Charlie Kirk assassination, do you think in any way, shape, or form this was planned by, I don't know, a foreign government or a a group, a deep state of people to just make sure his voice is not heard

[08:47] anymore because he was changing hearts, minds, and souls. He was changing the culture of America. >> It's It's certainly possible. Listen, I'm the least conspiracy-minded person that you will encounter. >> Okay? >> 99.9% of the time, >> what you see is what you get. It >> really >> Yeah. >> There are so many moving parts in a conspiracy. And and most of these organizations that we're talking about, CIA, FBI, MOSSAD, they are such big,

[09:20] slow, lumbering bureaucracies full of a lot of stupid people. >> I mean, I can see they get caught. >> Yeah, they get caught that for everything to just hum perfectly and never be revealed and nobody ever ever leaks. Could could it be outside sources, outside people, you know, outside entities? >> It could be a compartmentalized operation where, you know, so few people

[09:50] know about the operation that they could pull it off. >> What is the one one conspiracy you believe in? >> What's the one conspiracy that I believe in? I believe that elements of the CIA were involved in the killing of John Kennedy. I believe elements of the Israeli government were involved in the killing of John Kennedy. >> Really? >> I do. >> Again, the Israelis. >> Wh what what what which part which element puts it together?

[10:20] >> I was waiting for the president to declassify all of the remaining JFK documents, >> right? >> Yes. >> He said he did. He didn't. All of it. Yeah. >> No, there's still several thousand pages and I'm told that they point directly at the Israelis. >> Really? Mhm. >> What would be the benefit of of of >> They had specifically asked Kennedy for nuclear technology to build a bomb and he said that he would never give them nuclear technology to build a bomb. >> And at the time Kennedy wanted to

[10:52] inspect Israeli nuclear sites. >> Exactly. >> Right. >> Exactly. >> And I mean and we did. We went there. We inspected it just like we did in in in Iran. Right. >> And Iraq both. >> And and Iraq. Yeah. And uh >> you put lead seals, you put cameras, you have spot inspections, the system works. >> Yeah. And of course, we never found any, but we all know that Israel >> has >> Yeah. >> numerous nuclear weapons. >> Yeah. In fact, on that Pierce Morgan

[11:23] show, um I I told a a little story about a friend of mine who retired from the CIA and started writing books, just pumping out books, one or two a year, and he's a brilliant writer. And the books are on these really obscure foreign policy issues like US relations with India during the Kennedy administration or US relations with Saudi Arabia during the Franklin Roosevelt administration.

[11:55] I love them. But he probably sold 10 or 15 copies. Anyway, he he wrote this book about the history of nuclear weapons. It was like a short history of of nuclear weapons. And we always everything we write we have to send to the CIA for clearance by the publications review board. >> They sent back his manuscript >> and it only had three words blacked out. Israeli nuclear program.

[12:26] >> That's it. And he said, "It's not our secret." Like, we we don't have classification authority over the Israeli nuclear program. It's not up to us to protect the secrecy of Israel's nuclear
