Title: Trump's UNHINGED Threat, Kiriakou SPILLS TEA on Israel, Dill
Show: Due Dissidence
Date: 2026-04-06
URL: https://youtu.be/JyxFQVWJ3Eo
Duration: 194:00

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[10:06] It is time for us to do what we have been doing and that time is every day. >> We'll see what happens. We'll know in a very short period of time. But it looks like it could be something that will be uh not good. [music] Believe me, not good. >> I am a dissident. [music] Don't move. [music] I'm saying no here. Palunteer. Palunteer. Paler.

[10:37] [music] >> Seriously, we need to release the FC list. >> I am not a church boy. [music] >> They are full on vampires. >> They hate [music] our beef. They hate our beef. They hate our beef because our beef is beautiful and theirs is weak. [music]

[11:09] Not good. Believe me, not good. [music] >> Hello dissident. Welcome one and all to a Sunday evening edition of the do dissident podcast. My name is Katon Weiss. Thanks everybody for being here tonight. Great crowd to start things off. Look at that. We got a thousand strong filing in on YouTube already. 358 over on Rumble. Please smash that like

[11:40] button for us. Let's get an even bigger crowd in here. Of course, Russell is overseas. You all know where Russell is right now. Oh, he is on his group tour of China with an American group tour doing red-blooded American things over there in China. Uh but uh I have uh a terrific guest uh joining me uh for the program this evening. We've been seeing

[12:11] a lot of his work lately on X. We've been featuring a lot of his banger tweets. He's a political commentator. He is the host of Liberty Lockdown on YouTube, Rumble, as well as your favorite podcast platform. Pleasure to welcome to the program for the first time, Clint Russell. Clint, great to meet you. >> Russell's not out of the country. He's still here. I got you, guys. >> Okay. Yeah, there you go. Yeah. Well, it's nice to meet you, man. I love your backdrop. I thought that was San Diego because you got the Padres's hat on all

[12:43] the time, but uh you are a refugee from California. Is that correct? >> Yep. Yep. That's what radicalized me. I am a lockdown refugee. >> A lockdown refugee. That's right. So, you know, I think many of our audience are familiar with you and your work, but some may not be since we sli swim in slightly different circles. We're more in the lefty lane and you're more in the libertarian lane, but we're both against child sex trafficking in World War II. So, hey, uh that's something, right? Uh so, could you just tell us a bit about your show and and how you got into this space? just want to flesh out a few more

[13:14] of those uh details about how you got in this uh crazy independent media game. >> Sure. Uh I mean very very uh shorthand version of it. I my I'm a second generation libertarian. My dad was a libertarian. Uh taught me about you know Mises Rothbard when I was growing up in the '90s. And so when Ron Paul came around I was obviously thrilled to see someone who was popularizing my ideas. Uh he was then you know blacklisted and abused by the media and the political apparatics. and I immediately was radicalized further against the duopoly

[13:46] and then the lockdowns happened. Uh I was running a mortgage company at the time was very successful retired because I could no longer you know project economically forward and then I started the podcast as just a mechanism to venting and it's become what it is. So it's weird weird arc but that's what happened. >> Yeah. Well I mean it it took off uh fairly quickly I guess. I mean you made a big name for yourself big enough to appear at the libertarian convention in

[14:16] 2024. This was a big moment. Uh you were on stage here with Dave Smith and Vive Rama Swami. There was of course uh you know a big pitch that Trump made to the libertarian party for their endorsement and so there was a big debate at the time whether libertarians uh should support Donald Trump or not. So here you were at the time >> we should we should not have [laughter] Okay, >> keep going. [gasps] >> Hindsight's 2020 for all of us, man. Uh but uh here at the time you were

[14:47] expressing your reservations about that and uh this went over really well in the room. So here's you on stage with V Rama Swami too a few things that drew some booze. What do you think, Clint, is like the biggest obstacle for most of these people in the room, if you could speak on their behalf or for yourself that is what you just can't get over the hump to say, okay, I I can swallow this pill that we may agree on some issues with Donald Trump. Certainly, all the right people hate him, but I can't pulling the

[15:17] lever for him. >> Yeah. Um, it's actually it's interesting because I was thinking about that right before we came out here and it was actually a t a tagline in your speech about turning words into action. The issue has been that the GOP throughout my entire life has not turned words into action. They haven't. [cheering] [applause] >> They [cheering] They've pro They've promised to defend They've promised to defend the Constitution when

[15:48] I'm going to die before they do it. I mean, this is this is my deep-seated concern. They They also talk about limited government. They talk about ending the wars. They talk about bringing our troops home. When when it's not happening. So, the reason the Libertarian Party is as viable as it is, the reason that Donald Trump and yourself and even RFK are here this weekend is because the the election margins are so thin that you guys need us. And I appreciate that you're willing to come and talk to us because there's not real animist particularly between you and I. I have a tremendous amount of respect for you. But there is a

[16:19] tremendous amount of animosity between myself and the GOP who has ran around talking as if they're Ron Paul and then governing as if they're John McCain. [cheering] That's that's a first. Thank [cheering] you. [applause] >> So that really brought the house down. So tell us what happened after that. Did you eventually support Trump? And can

[16:50] you kind of lay out um whether you did or didn't? Um the timeline of the sort of Trump libertarian love story, how it started through how it ended, assuming it's pretty much over at this point. I mean, I don't really see any libertarians, even like, you know, Angel McCart. I don't see anybody really pumping him at this point. >> No. Um Yeah. I mean, I don't know if there was ever a full-on love story, but I I basically caved like one week before the election. and I just said, "Look, I think that the proxy war in Ukraine is so dangerous that we've got to we've got

[17:22] to punish the Democrats. Like, we've got to they have to lose." Um, so that was really what made me conclude it. It wasn't that I was buying into the hype as to Trump being some, you know, cost cutting small government maven or anything like that. Um, but I did appreciate that he hadn't started any major wars in his presidency. And I thought that there was a chance that he was actually interested in negotiating peace with Putin. Um I hoped even though I said in the episode where I announced that I was going to vote for him, I I

[17:52] hoped that he was not as much in the employee of Israel as I thought he might be. Um and I said I think I said in that episode that like worst case scenario with Donald Trump is war with Iran. [laughter] Um [snorts] and uh and we got it. We got it. So, >> you're a prophet there. Wow. So, yeah. I mean, it's funny because in the runup to the 2024 election. Um, you know, I I voted for Jill Stein for similar reasons, like to punish the Democrats

[18:24] because of the genocide in Gaza. There was a group of Palestinian activists in in Michigan whose express intent was to get enough votes for Jill Stein in Michigan to deny Kla Harris the state and the race. like we were very explicit in our intent that uh you know the Democrats need to pay a price for the genocide in Gaza, but also just the whole four years in general. I mean the war in Ukraine obviously horrible and um you know the the Biden administration was an administration really defined by

[18:58] uh censorship, suppression and war. And so um it made everybody desperate to vote for something else. turned out they voted for censorship suppression and war. >> Yeah, I guess the only uh difference is that there's less nuclear weapons involved potentially. Um but yeah, and I the reason I didn't mention Gaza is because I just didn't see Trump as being much better on that than Biden. Obviously, I wanted that to end, too. I'm very >> very seriously anti-war. Um, but yeah, I mean the Democrats are a train wreck and

[19:31] I thought that Trump had a chance of being at least 20% better and I think he's maybe even now. So, I'm I'm very disappointed. I forgot to open up our conversation with uh alahu Akbar and happy Easter because that's that's what we that's what we do in America now. Uh, >> exactly. >> I mean, exactly. >> What a what an utterly bizarre thing to post on Easter morning. I I saw a tweet uh today. Could you imagine if Barack Obama had said praise be to Allah on

[20:02] Easter Sunday? Could you imagine the reaction to that? >> It would have been less surprising. >> Unbelievable. Just unbelievable. But we we will get into that. We will get into that uh in in due time. But what do you think was the tipping point for a lot of libertarians with Trump? Was it >> the uh one big moment like the first war with Iran, the 12- day war? I know that's when that's when Dave Smith publicly came out and said he should be impeached and removed. Was it the Epstein memo in July? Was it just over time realizing how subservient he was to

[20:32] the Israel the Israelis? Was it anti-free speech actions like detaining the student protesters for their anti-Israel opinions? Cuz all of these seem like grave offenses against libertarianism. When did the damn break in your estimation? >> Yeah, for me the dam broke when he said, "Wait, wait, wait. We're still talking about Epstein." Yeah, that was it. >> He said, "Go ahead and answer the question if you want, but I just think that we're really wasting our time talking about FC. I was radicalized like like a light switch when that happened." I was like, "Oh, this guy is fully

[21:04] compromised." So, for me, it was that and the 12-day war. I mean, that was so egregious. Um, and honestly, the Charlie Kirk assassination, his behavior after that, and then the full-blown Iran war was just like I don't know any libertarian that's still playing footsie with this guy at this point. So, it's >> it's interesting. Sorry to cut you off. Go ahead. >> Oh, no. I I don't even know where I was going. Go. >> No, it's okay. No, it's interesting that you mentioned Charlie Kirk. Can you Can you elaborate that on that a bit more?

[21:34] Was it just his his demeanor in terms of, hey, look at my ballroom is almost done. Yeah, Charlie Kirk is a great guy. Or was it uh you know uh because I personally don't know what happened. I don't think any of us can know what happened, but I think there's a lot more to that >> than they told us. So yeah, when you say the Charlie Kirk assassination, what specifically about that? >> Well, it's both. I mean, it's the callousness with which he talks about him uh or really the lack of talking about him. He doesn't seem to have any concern with him at all. It actually reminds me a lot of Butler,

[22:05] Pennsylvania. you know, these are these are like things you would expect Trump to harp on a lot. >> He doesn't talk about them at all. >> And I think that tells you a lot. You know, it's not you can't trust what Trump has to say, but you can you can read by what he won't discuss. And to me, that's like a really telling sign as to the the true nature behind Charlie Kirk's assassination. Like you said though, I I don't have a firm answer to it. Uh but then it's also just like the obvious betrayal of Charlie's legacy. The fact that he was such an ardent u

[22:36] opponent to the war in Iran that he spent two full days during the 12-day war or right before the 12-day war trying to stop it and then the entire TPUSA kind of zio that happened afterwards along with Donald Trump, his entire cabinet and the broader GOP influencer class. They're all just such traders. >> Yeah. You know, it's it's really interesting that you mentioned the lack of time devoted to talking about Charlie Kirk. You see that in the Butler thing

[23:07] as well. Like, yeah, it it it is very telling what they don't want you to focus on. Like, if you remember his State of the Union, he starts the thing off by going on for like six or seven minutes about the hockey team because they won their hockey game. Sentence after paragraph after paragraph, ovation after ovation about the hockey team. Then he mentions Charlie Kirk. He goes to Erica Kirk for like 45 seconds. And that's it. He moves off of it. You know, 7 minutes for the hockey team, one minute for the guy who got killed, one of your most ardent supporters, one of

[23:37] your most effective organizers. I mean, whatever anybody thinks of Charlie Kirk, there's no denying he was one of the MVPs of that campaign. It's hard to imagine Trump winning the kind of margins he won with young people, especially young men, without Charlie Kirk. And yeah, hardly a word. Hardly a word about it. It was bizarre. >> Yeah. Yeah. And I I would imagine that Charlie had a lot to do behind the scenes with booking all of those independent podcast uh you know spots for Trump just cuz he had all those contacts. So >> yeah, I mean it's just to me it's just egregious. You know, the way that they

[24:08] kind of used and discarded Charlie um really radicalized me. And then the what I think is happening is a cover up. So that's radicalizing me further. Um and but like I said, I still don't know who did it actually. It could have been our government, could have been foreign intelligence. I'm really not sure. Uh, and it's and it could have been um, sorry, I wanted to say Krooks. What's his name? I'm blanking on it. >> Oh, well, Krooks was the Butler guy and then Tyler Robinson is the Charlie. >> Yeah. Yeah. So, Robinson certainly could have been involved and I think that there's a good chance that he was, but I

[24:38] just find it very hard to believe that that's all there is to that story. I mean, there's so there's so much weirdness to it. Um, I don't know if you want to get into that. It's very deep. So we can we can keep moving. But I just overall >> and for the record I I disagree with Charlie Kirk on a lot of things. I was not like some obviously >> Charlie Kirk's supporter by any stretch. But the one thing that really brought him and the libertarians together is that he seemed to have really learned the lesson of the war on terror. >> Not to the point that libertarians have where they're going to actually go

[25:09] against Trump and burn bridges to try and prevent another disaster because Charlie did not do that after the 12-day war. But privately he did do that and I think that that speaks highly to his his courage and his character. Something that everybody else in his organization unfortunately including his wife has not demonstrated to carry that torch forward on. Like there's just no one doing it. >> Yeah, for sure. That and uh freedom of speech too. I mean when uh the the congressman Mike Lawler, he introduced that anti-boycott bill making it

[25:39] essentially a criminal act to join international boycots against Israel. uh Charlie Kirk and Marjorie Taylor Green and Thomas Massie who we're going to talk about in just a minute. Uh they they were the three biggest voices leading the charge against that and the bill got scrapped. The bill was not brought to the House floor. Um you know now there's no big I mean there there's no there's no big star within the MAGA movement who is speaking out against this war and you have to imagine he would have. I mean, he and certainly TPUSA is not at this point. And I think that is uh shameful. Uh regardless of

[26:12] their culpability, and I'm not saying they're culpable. I'm saying even best case scenario, they're certainly dishonoring Charlie Kirk's legacy by not speaking out against this war, which we know for a near fact he would have. >> Yep. Exactly. Uh, I do want to correct one thing because I still I still view Tucker Carlson as being MAGA and he's been about as outspoken as anybody and as successful as anybody in the right-wing commentariat when it comes to, you know, opposing this war and and really criticizing Trump in a very

[26:44] effective manner. So, but yes, uh, which is also why I pray for Tucker Carlson daily and I'm very fearful that they're going to take him out, too. >> That is true. Like it's hard to determine now who's MAG or who not. Like when CNN came out with that poll, 100% of MAGA Republicans support Trump. Well, I guess if you still call yourself MAGA, maybe that means you support Trump. Like Candace Owens was MAGA at some point. She just tweeted out before we went on air, this is a satanic administration. 6:24 p.m. She just fired around. >> So I love it. I mean, and for the

[27:15] record, I don't agree with uh a lot of the things that Candace has done in terms of this investigation. Um even though I think that it's been very valuable, some of the things she's highlighted, but I love her courage. I mean, I love how much of a fire, you know, just a blowtorrch she really can be. Um, and I'm the same with Tucker Carlson. I disagree with him particularly on economics a lot and but I just love the fact that he's like he seems to be seriously committed to this path in a way that I did not expect at all. Um, and maybe I'm biased because he's, you know, he's scare quotes platformed my good friends Dave Smith

[27:46] and Scott Horton. Um, and that's convinced me that he's the real deal and not a CIA plan or something like that. uh you know, they're convinced, so I'm convinced for now. >> Well, uh if the CIA is writing that uh referral against him, we'll see if that comes comes down the pike. That'll be a a big tell. Uh one guy who has shown a lot of courage is Thomas Massie. You have been a vocal supporter of his, especially now since Trump is coming after his seat. Massie, of course, uh now being primary by Ed Grin, who was

[28:17] handpicked by Trump and obviously the AP pack class to try and boost Thomas Massie. So, uh here's a video uh that you shared. Uh you said money bomb drops on March 30th. I'm all in. This is a few minutes long. We won't play the whole thing, but you do have a cameo in it. So, uh we'll we'll play some of this and then we'll talk about it a little bit. >> Ann of some vicious vicious stuff. That of course is Thomas Massie. >> The rift between Congressman Thomas Massie and President Trump is getting much more serious. [music] >> The president's really mad at Thomas

[28:48] Massie right now, but Thomas Massie is not bought and paid [music] for. >> Thomas Massie can't be bought, just like Ron Paul couldn't be bought. >> I sometimes call him the Ron Paul of Congress. We call him Rand Paul Jr. >> What he represents is an independent voice within the Republican party who believes in balanced budgets, low taxes, and less foreign [music] war. We were tired of endless wars in the Middle East and tired of wars in Eastern Europe. >> There's a big deal of overlap with President Trump on that. All of the things that [music] MAGA explicitly voted for. >> Do I prefer a neoconservative pro-war

[29:21] Republican over Massie? Hell no, I don't. >> He is actually representing a lot of the people in the MAGA base who are saying we don't want this war. He's a bit of a rogue guy. Since Ron Paul left Congress, I've been saying publicly that Thomas Massie is the best congressman [music] in the country. This [ __ ] we got to get rid of this loser. >> If you attack me, I'm probably going to dig in. I'm not [music] bullied. He's honest and he's tough fighting against the cover up of the Epstein files. That's what Thomas Massiey's doing. [music] And Trump calls him a loser for

[29:52] it. >> The guy is a national hero at this point. They're treating him like he's treasonous. >> They love voting there. They think it's good politically. The guy's polling at about 9%. [music] No, you're talking about someone that is beloved in Kentucky. >> He's certainly been successful here in the district. His nononsense libertarian [music] flare has made him a Kentucky fan favorite since 2012. This is how we really truly drain the swamp. I'm with Thomas Massie and Roana. Let's go, baby. This might be one of these [music] last stages where all of a sudden truth breaks out. Ron Paul [music] raised big

[30:24] bucks and some major eyebrows with a very successful one-day internet fundraising drive. Amazing. It's being called a money bomb. >> That's what his supporters call it, his money bomb. >> It's a one-day record for internet donations. Paul lags in the polls, but he has inspired a devoted following. >> It was astounding and it astounded the media and gave us a lot of credibility. >> And who are his supporters? Well, they're Republicans, their Democrats, their independents, their young people, old people. Anybody who [music] is disenchanted with the candidates now in

[30:54] the lead. >> I don't hold grudges against anybody. You know, you could say I [music] disagree with with Thomas Massie, but if you think Thomas Massie is the problem, you are the problem. >> I couldn't agree more. >> He's fighting back and he has some arguments that are pretty strong. >> I think I'm going to donate money to Massiey's campaign. >> Okay, I wouldn't go that far. >> It would be a tragedy if they get away with lying through their teeth about Thomas Massie. It's very necessary that these money bombs be successful.

[31:29] All right. I said I wasn't going to play the whole thing, but I lied. Couldn't find a good place to stop. Um so there are areas where you know I have you know ideological uh differences with Massie but I think big picture and I DN you this and part of my pitch to bring you on because I think part of the purpose of this conversation is I think to communicate that like big picture we do need not only a real anti-war movement in this country but I do think we need like an actual like liberty movement now

[32:01] too. uh you could just feel a tension in the air um like we haven't felt in a very long time. You know, when Theo Vaughn asked Joe Rogan the other day, are we going to be okay? You know, like there's just a sense of procarity uh hanging over everyone's heads. And look, I think uh there are a lot of peoples around the world, Palestinians live with that sense of procarity every day. Cubans live with that sense of procarity every day. People in this country have lived with that sense of procarity. uh

[32:31] every day, poor people, racial out groupoups, all that. Um but now I think everybody's feeling it. I think everybody's feeling it. And I think that's part of the shock [clears throat] of this era. And so while I do have my disagreements with Massie, I think I could voice them to his face without him sticking ice on me or calling me a terrorist or put putting me on a list or something. So I respect that greatly about him. And his leadership on the Epstein files has been great. His stance on Gaza has been very strong uh as well. So, how important is this primary and uh

[33:03] do you think he will ultimately prevail? >> Well, I'll start with yes, it's uh I think he's going to prevail, but that doesn't mean anybody should rest in their laurels. Whether you have disagreements with Thomas Massie about economics or whatever your different uh you know, disagreements are. I think he's one of, if not the only honorable person in Congress right now. So, I would highly encourage people to to open up their wallets and support the guy. uh we raised 350,000 which uh you know for a primary campaign in the GOP is like a

[33:36] normal campaign budget but this is not a normal race. They are putting up an estimated like 23 $24 million to try and primary him out of office. At least that's what they've allotted to try and take him out. I don't know if they spent they haven't spent that much yet but they have spent like five or six million already. So, this is this is going to be probably the most expensive congressional race in the country and maybe the most, you know, expensive primary race ever. It's it's just astronomical. So, yeah, I think he's he's super important. I think he is the

[34:07] air apparent to Ron Paul and I think he's been about as, you know, pure and as cogent uh anybody in politics in the past decade since Ron Paul himself. So, I think he's great and I and I love the fact that he's creating kind of this coalition. You know, Anakasparian was in that that uh that promo with me and Dave Smith and all these like hardcore libertarians. And I love I love kind of her exasperated breaking down into

[34:37] >> I think I'm I think I'm going to donate to this guy. And it's like, yeah, I get it. Um, you know, that's kind of how I feel about Roana, even though I when he talks about a billionaire tax, I want to pull whatever hair I have left out. But, um, yeah, I mean, we need honorable people to do honorable things. So, >> well, I I support a billionaire tax, but I'm I'm willing to support Thomas as well. Yes, I understand. Um, but, uh, no, it I mean it is interesting. I think like look like ultimately I think what you're getting at here is something very

[35:09] fundamental you know which is okay do we have control over our government yes or no because if we don't have control over our government if our government is completely unresponsive then it doesn't matter what I think about a billionaire tax versus what you think about a billionaire >> bingo >> like the only reason our the only thing that gives our debates meaning is if we actually are able to exert control over the political system. Once that's gone, we can argue all day about a billionaire tax. It doesn't matter. >> It doesn't matter.

[35:40] >> I made that point on my my most recent episode. Um like almost verbatim. I was like, why does why does any of this matter? Why do our disagreements matter at all? If like if our government is controlled by crony corporations and foreign governments, but really specifically Israel, then who cares? You know, who cares about our disagreements when it comes to economic policy? We're not getting any of that anyways. We're not abolishing the Federal Reserve. We're not getting rid of the income tax. We're probably I mean, maybe we'll get some of the tax programs that you guys

[36:11] want because the state likes to grow. But aside from that, well, by the way, this is actually why I think you guys should agree with us on this is like if you agree that we don't have any control over our government, why should we be giving it more resources? But anyways, um yeah, I think that's exactly right, though, is that we don't have control over our government. Uh we're constantly delivered a poo poo bladder of options that like is literally poo poo. So, I don't know. I don't know what else we're supposed to do other than to come together and and support truly independent candidates, the ones that

[36:42] have demonstrated that like they are reviled by the establishment. And I don't think that there's anybody more reviled than Thomas Massie. >> Yeah, absolutely. And I I felt that way in 2016. I mean, I didn't vote for Trump in 2016. His politics were never my politics, and so I never supported him. But I was rooting for him to win when Hillary became the nominee just because of how she ascended to the nomination. You know, I was a Bernie guy and it was so obvious that they cheated that I thought to myself what I just said to you now. If they can just steer a woman

[37:13] like this to the nomination and just install her as president, then what difference does it make? Would any of us think our debates have no meaning? >> Yep. >> So same dynamic with Kamla though in 24. >> Yeah. I mean it was the exact same phenomenon. It was I mean even more egregious. >> It was [laughter] Yes. Way more egregious. Way more egregious. This was a person who they clearly wanted to be the successor to Hillary Clinton. They ran her in 2020. She couldn't stick around long enough to get a single vote. So they install her as VP and then 3

[37:45] months before the election he drops out and she's the nominee. Like it was it was outrageous. It was insane. And this is why the the handrigging about the threat to democracy that Donald Trump posed just never was able to uh land with so many people because the Democrats functioned in such an anti-democratic way that you could not take seriously their hand ringing about what a threat to democracy Trump is. And in Trump's first term, he really wasn't

[38:16] a threat to democracy. I think he is now. But in the first term, I mean, when you think about it, in 2020, if he wanted to just end democracy, declare martial law, and become a dictator, you had an airborne toxic event, and close to race riots. If that's not pretext to just say, you know what, we're shutting this all down. I'm King Donald. [ __ ] you. That's it. No election. That was the pretext to do it. And he didn't do it. >> So, I didn't really have a reason to believe that he would be, frankly, as bad as he is now. Oh, exactly. I think

[38:49] it's funny. Even though you come more left and I come more right, but it's like we we analyze this identically. Like that's exactly how I felt about him. I didn't vote for him in 2016. I cheered on from the sideline because I hate neocons and I hate Hillary Clinton or neoliberals, whatever. Uh she's more of a >> same thing basically. >> Yeah, exactly. Um so when he got in there and he didn't start any major wars, uh I thought, all right, well this guy's better than the other ones. you know, he's like he's not great by any stretch. Um, and then 2020 rolls around

[39:21] and it was like, all right, well, I I studied that very deeply because of the nature of my show being Liberty Lockdown. I was really diving into the to the research, the behind the scenes, trying to figure out like, all right, is this guy in on it or is he being duped? And I really came to the conclusion that he was duped. Uh, so now I have to [laughter] reassess all that, too. Maybe he wasn't. But I really did think he was duped into the lockdowns thing. So anyways, long story short, you know, by the time, you know, after you watch the FBI spy on him

[39:51] illegally, they frame him for treason with the Russians, there's all these other things that like and the media apparatics are going after him 24/7. You just have to come to the conclusion like, all right, maybe this guy is really like independent, you know, maybe he's like really, even though I disagree with him on a ton of things. I'm not a tariff guy, you know, but like >> maybe he's for real >> and then and then they try to kill him, you know? [laughter] You're like you're like, "All right, he's for real. He's got to be for real at this point." And I was wrong. Um, you know, funny story. I

[40:24] actually was on a panel >> the day of Butler with myself, Brett Weinstein, Angela Mardle, and Cash Patel went on to be the head of the FBI. It was called, the name of the panel was called How to Defeat the Deep State. >> Wow. >> And uh I, you know, it's just a confluence of factors, but it's like, you know, you're sitting up there with a guy who then goes on to be the head of the FBI and his his whole claim to fame is that he's going to, you know, go after the deep state and that he's he's really big on this whole Epstein thing.

[40:55] Dan Bonino is the same way. And RFK Jr.'s talking about, you know, health freedom and going against the vaccine mandates and vaccine schedule for that matter. Um and Donald Trump is the president of peace and JD Vance is feeding us some you know Austrian talking points here here and there. Uh Elon Musk is doing the same thing and it's just like you you've got and then V Ramos Swami who came on my show and I got to debate and you know it's like there's just so many reasons to think that there's a chance at least there's a chance that this is real and it just all

[41:26] wasn't. It just all wasn't. And I And I guess the biggest question for me at this point is like was it was it fake from the beginning? Has this been an operation essentially to get him back into power from a bunch of like very intelligent actors that actually targeted and weaponized the libertarian voting block as minimal as it is to their ends? or were some of these people like true blue and they just all got in there and they all blackmailed, bribed, you know, whatever, whatever, whatever.

[41:58] It's impossible for me to to really dissect. And just one other quick story, I also met and talked with Donald Trump Jr. for an hour before I was on Tim Cast IRL like year and a half, two years ago. And and he was so redpilled in private, [laughter] you know, you're like, >> "Wow, that's interesting." >> Yeah. You're like, you're talking to this guy and I was talking to him. I I' I've always said it was off the record, so I'm not going to give any details as to what he said, but I was talking about uh the Las Vegas shooting, and I'll just leave it at that, right? >> I'm like, this guy is, you know, he's not one of us, per se, but he's he's

[42:30] closer. So, anyways, I'm just saying all of these little anecdotal stories to express or explain why I thought that there was a chance that this was real, and it just none of it was. >> Yeah. I mean, I I think that there were probably elements of that that were real in the moment as far as they went. But I think the overarching problem that just became insurmountable in the long run was that the guy is just completely owned by Israel. And that's a segue into this next piece. So, I want to show this is a tweet that you made recently. This

[43:01] is regarding the Iran war. every American casualty, every plane lost, every death, every child left without a parent, every dollar spent, every cost of living increase, every hardship that this war creates, all of it is on Trump and his inability to be a man and to just tell Netanyahu to [ __ ] off. So, here is uh John Kuryaku, former CIA officer, uh kind of

[43:31] fleshing out this point here of just how controlled by Israel Trump is making the point that Trump is not the first president that Israel insisted bomb ran on their behalf. But he's the first one who couldn't tell him no. Yep. >> In all the years that I was in the CIA, no matter who the Israeli prime minister was, every single time an Israeli prime minister came to Washington, no matter who the president happened to be, the Israelis would say, "Please help us bomb Iran. Please help us bomb Iran. Please help us bomb Iran." And the president's

[44:02] always said no. until this one. I think that President President Trump was duped by uh Benjamin Netanyahu and now we're in a war that that is not ours uh from the beginning and that we cannot win. And this is another thing too, my own experience in the CIA and and at some of the highest levels of government. I was the executive assistant to the CIA's deputy director throughout the uh the Iraq war. There's never an exit strategy. It's easy to attack a country.

[44:33] It's easy to overthrow a government, but then what do you do? That's the hard part. >> And he makes essentially the same point here. Goes into a little more detail. Uh this is a clip of Kiryaku on the Megan Kelly show. years that I was in the CIA, literally every time an Israeli prime minister came to the United States, and they come all the time, regardless of who happened to be the president, whether it was Ronald Reagan all the way in into Donald Trump's first term, every single Israeli prime minister would come

[45:05] and say, "Please bomb Iran. Please bomb Iran. Please bomb Iran." And every president would say, "No, we're not going to bomb Iran." until this president and the Israelis from 1986, the Israelis have have been saying that the Iranians were 6 months away from a nuclear bomb. Just simply not true. The the CIA in the last 20 years has written two national intelligence estimates. Now, this is a sense of the entire intelligence community concluding both

[45:36] times that the Iranians did not have a nuclear weapons program. So it seems like what Kiryaku is saying there is that Trump was the only guy who Israel could convince to do this convince in air quotes of course uh since they have their own ways of convincing people to do things. Um so this seems strong evidence to me that not only is Israel calling the shots but that they needed someone as under their thumb as Donald Trump to get the war they always wanted. Now there's another school of thought which is being sort of

[46:07] debated on X right now. I'm sure you've run into this debate uh in your own circles which says that no, Israel is our puppet and they're following our lead because really it's Washington who wants this war and that to blame Israel is somehow to let Washington off the hook. Uh so where do you land uh in that debate? >> Well, I'll give a straight answer and then I'll give a nuanced answer. Straight answer is this is Israel's war like crystal clear. um nuance take is that the people that argue that there

[46:38] are pit bull um they're not entirely wrong. I mean there are elements that are in the military-industrial complex etc that that donate to politicians that have lobbying uh you know activities that are trying to get politicians to fight these wars but they are fighting these wars for Israel like let's be clear about that. Uh so I mean you don't have to just take Kiryaku's word for it. Uh, if you don't believe Joe Kent, then you can dig into the actual history of

[47:09] the Iraq war to find out how that all played out. Um, I mean, the clean break memo is huge. Uh, you know, PAC project for a new American century. >> The all the guys that got into George Bush Jr.'s White House. >> Yep. It's crystal clear that this was a, you know, Jewish American, Israeli Jewish movement to essentially use our military to destroy all of Israel's enemies and to enable them to take

[47:40] Palestine like [laughter] >> and beyond. Yeah. >> Well, sure. Sure. It's Well, it's expanded now because it's been so successful. Um, but I'm not sure that they actually expected that they could go further than just taking Palestine, but they are now expanding into like little greater Israel projects. So, I mean it to me it's like it's just laughable that we even have to debate this. Um, it's very frustrating and I feel bad for Dave Smith because that's now his career is he has to go around talking to water carrying hacks like Coleman Hughes to explain, you know,

[48:12] just because the West Clark 7 isn't an openand-shut case as to whether or not that actually was, you know, provable that he saw that that that was a plan. We went and we took over those seven countries. Did he guess that, [laughter] you know, >> come on, man. Um, and then you add in all of the other things that we just talked about >> and there's so much more. you can get to mere shimer and it's like there's just ample evidence to be completely convinced that Israel is dictating our foreign policy particularly when it comes to to the Middle East but I think it also has it has its tendrils no

[48:46] anti-semitic uh intention [laughter] into uh >> it has its hooks and it its horns into that's better that's better [laughter] I got to be safe um but the Venezuela war man they were they are also supportive of the Gazins. So, it's like I think that they have sway that is really incalculable. I mean, it's it's astronomical. I mean, they were deporting college students for speaking out against Israel. It's like I just don't know how like and I and I'm not

[49:19] fond of many of the college progressives. I mean, many of them would like to see me [laughter] tortured, but I still want them to be able to speak freely. Um, so I don't know. It's just all it's all madness. And and then the obvious like op that we've witnessed in terms of taking over the influencer class, you know, the skin suiting of MAGA and skin suiting of America first is so so egregious and obvious to me because I was actually like deep in the weeds when I was watching all these people that were pushing the Kla Harris who's the

[49:51] president of war, you know, or the candidate of war and Trump is the president of peace and gas is going to be cheaper and no more wars. And then they all flip on a dime and and I know for a fact that these people are getting paid. Like I know it. So it's an op and there's like major money going into it. And then you do the research, you find out about Project Esther and you realize that there's tens of millions if not hundreds of millions if not god knows how much money that's going into propaganda campaigns that are specifically targeted towards the American people on Bennett on on the behalf and benefit of Israel uh a

[50:21] foreign government. Then you look in the FAR filings and you recognize that like basically [laughter] the only country that's able to to do this uh without running scants the law seems to be Israel and it's just the the double standards over and over again. It just keeps coming up and coming up and coming up. And then once you understand the origins of of the war of of the wars for my entire adult life and if you don't know all the history then you can go read Scott Horton's great books. He'll lay it all out for you. But I mean it's just like this is just this is not a debate. this Israel is running the

[50:52] show. I realize it doesn't make sense because we're the big and powerful and rich country, but it doesn't change the fact that the actions don't make sense unless you actually attribute them to being driven on behalf of Israel. >> Yeah. No, I think you're right. And the the clean break memo highlights Iraq and Syria. Syria was of course uh necessary to knock off before the Iran war because Syria was the most formidable country in the Middle East like like militarily. uh uh you know who could have uh fought

[51:23] this war off uh on the Iranian side. And so you know um it was uh or at least be a stalwart against that kind of uh um expansion. So it it really um when you put everything together you know RFK called Israel our aircraft carrier and uh it may be true that there is a strategic influence a strategic uh benefit for the west to have a sort of satellite state over there. Um, but at a certain point, I think, you know, to to deny that Israel is in the driver's

[51:53] seat, especially when it comes to this war because this war is so suicidally insane, it's not even winnable. Like, there's not even really an imperial interest for us to fight it. We lost it. We lost it in a in a week. We've clearly lost it already. That's why Trump is melting down now. So, yeah. I mean, I think that that debate is just become kind of a really frustrating one. I think that's happening kind of on the left and on the right. this question of a chicken or the egg. Well, whose war is it? You know, uh they clearly benefit Israel. Go ahead.

[52:23] >> Well, and I didn't even talk about the fact that Marco Rubio said it was for Israel and Donald Trump said it was for Israel and Pete Heg says it was for Israel. It's like what are we doing here? Like it's obviously for Israel. Yes, it was for Israel's defense. Um and well, defense defense [laughter] after they aggress, but you know what I'm saying. Um, so yeah, it's it's totally laughable and and I think that that's that's been kind of the unifying talking point that has allowed for probably you and I to cross over or me and Ana Kasparian or Stank or you know Scott and

[52:56] Dave and all of us is like we just I think that's really the tie that binds is that we're all recognizing that we don't have sovereignty. And I do want to correct one thing that you said. It's not your fault, but you know, I think it was you said RFK said it that there are aircraft carrier. That's been a very common talking point forever. Sure. We don't have bases there. Like like so if there are aircraft carrier, you think we'd be able to do whatever we want that we'd be stationing our sordies out of there. And it's like that's not how this goes. Like we have bases in Bahrain and Kuwait and Saudi and all these other nations, but we don't have like this is

[53:27] that's the other reason you know that that they're not our pit bull or that we are their pit bull is like we fight their wars. They don't do [ __ ] for us. We fund their wars. We arm their wars. We die in their wars. They don't do any of that for us. None of it. And yet people still argue that they're our pitbull. It's like [ __ ] They're our pitbull. We are fighting people that are our enemies only because we've been fighting people that are their enemies forever and now they hate us. That's as simple as it can get. And it just drives me absolutely insane that we can't just

[53:58] all recognize it for what it is. And I think it just all boils down to the the curse of both Christian Zionism and the the really successful campaign to convince everybody that any criticism of the nation state of Israel is somehow bigoted hatred of a ethnic minority whatever. >> And I that that whole scam has to die. It has to. >> So >> well I mean I think it is I mean it's

[54:28] not working anymore. I mean, fewer and fewer people are even bothering to defend themselves against accusations of anti-semitage. True. It's like I don't even want to hear it. Like, don't even bother me. >> In our world, in our world, you're right. But in day-to-day life, I think it's it's a lot harder for people like at the water cooler, you're probably not talking about, you know, >> right? Sure. Yeah. No, I think that's that's definitely true. Um, all right. I want to talk to you a little bit about the cabinet shakeup here. So Trump weighs broader cabinet shakeup as Iran war pressure grows. US President Donald

[55:00] Trump is considering a broader cabinet shakeup in the wake of Attorney General Pam Bondi's removal this week as he grows increasingly frustrated with the political fallout from the war with Iran. Five people familiar with internal White House discussions said any potential reshuffleling could serve as a reset for the White House as it confronts a politically challenging stretch. The five-week old war has driven up gas prices, dragged down Trump's approval ratings, and intensified anxiety about the consequences for Republicans headed into November's midterm elections. Three

[55:31] White House officials and two other sources with knowledge of administration dynamics spoke to Reuters on condition of anonymity to discuss sensitive personal matters. The sources did not consistently describe any single cabinet member as certain to lose their job in the near term, but multiple officials are in some degree of danger, they said. Several of the sources said Tulsi Gabbard, Trump's director of national intelligence, and Commerce Secretary Howard Lutnik are among those potentially on the chopping block after Trump ousted Pam Bondi and Homeland

[56:02] Security Secretary Christine in recent weeks. Trump has in in recent months expressed displeasure with Gabbard, said one senior White House official. Another source with direct knowledge of the matter said Trump had asked allies about their thoughts on potential replacements for his intelligence chief. So you have Tulsi Gabbard, Howard Lutnick there on the chopping block. And then the Atlantic magazine reports separately. Several people familiar with the White House's plans told us there are active discussions about others leaving the administration, including FBI Director

[56:34] Cash Patel, Army Secretary Daniel Driscoll, and Labor Secretary Lorie Chavez Darr. Now, um there have been some different theories as to why Bondi was fired. Um do you have any thoughts on that? And who do you think might be the next to go here since it seems like uh it's all kind of unraveling pretty quickly? >> Well, I would love for Bond to have been fired for the Epstein cover up, but the the early reporting was that she leaked

[57:04] a potential or like a some level of documentation for investigation into Eric Swallwell and his >> wife [ __ ] So, >> right, like I I I would imagine that she was probably fired because she's just not loyal to the to the GOP in the way that or to MAGA to Trump specifically. I mean, that's really all Trump ever cares about. Are you loyal to him? Do you say nice things about him? Then he loves you. Um, and then obviously I think Tulsi Gabbert is on the chopping block because even

[57:34] though she flip-flopped and ultimately destroyed her legacy by lying about Iran uh back I think it was during the summer. Um she when she was being questioned why I think it was right after Joe Kent resigned uh she she basically just like she wouldn't back up Trump. She wouldn't say that like yes they were an imminent threat. Yes, we had to do this. The president made the right decision. She was just like the Trump you know the president is the only one that can make that decision. She just like kept going

[58:06] back to that. And you know, as far as Trump's concerned, I think he views that as disloyalty because she wasn't willing to fully colon pal pow herself, you know, >> right? >> So that's my that's my justification for that. Um I think anybody who's like even a 5% real boy, which is kind of how I view Tulsi, um a real gal, don't be mean. Uh they they're all in jeopardy. So the reason I think Letic hasn't been fired despite the fact that he was egregiously caught lying about his relationship with right >> Epstein that had extended a decade past

[58:38] when he said it had ended and had been you know numerous occasions when in fact he said I met that guy once. It's like [ __ ] dude. He was caught red-handed. So I think that obviously made him look bad. But I think the reason he wasn't fired already is because he's I I read him as like a handler. Like that's how I that's how I view him. I think I think he is an asset to the Israelis. Um, personally, so I'd be surprised if he gets fired. If he does get fired, it'll just be ceremonial. I mean, he'll still be shipped off to go make a trillion

[59:09] dollars stabbing Americans in the back. Um >> well you know my friend you know Russell my friend my friend and my co my co-host the other half of this project my friend you know I got this friend of mine Russell Davler who tells me no he um you know he he makes a good point about Lutnik and Scott Besson which is these are the cabinet members who like get out in front of Trump every once in a while like every once in a while they'll come out and they'll say okay when the jobs come back people are going to be building robots or you know here's how the tariffs are going to go like they will contradict Trump without fear of

[59:40] retribution And that that's a sign that they're actually running it. That they're actually a lot higher up than they look. Yeah. >> You know who else does that? >> Mark Levin. >> Mark does that. >> Absolutely. Yeah. >> Yeah. >> So, there's just something there's something about [laughter] the Jewish uh you know, orbiters to Trump and how they're the only ones that like get to basically safely oneup him. And Netanyahu is the most egregious of all. I mean, he can do whatever he wants. Trump's like calling for peace. He's saying, "Bring those bring those

[1:00:11] planes back." And Netanyahu is just like, "Fuck you. I'm going to bomb them and then we'll talk about it after." And Trump will get, you know, momentarily publicly upset and then he immediately rever reverts to basim where or baseline where he's just like, "No, Netanyahu is great, great leader. Well, you should pardon him. Pardon him from his corruption." It's like this guy is so compromised. It's unbelievable. >> I don't even know where I was going with that, but it's just true. Well, no, it's true that even like the cabinet itself has been has been largely circumvented to the point where, you know, this is

[1:00:42] why I thought what Joe Kent did was so significant and so heroic and not just significant and heroic, but very prudent and and very effective from a self-serving standpoint. Like Joe Kent has a future in politics if he wants it right now because he stood on principle and he quit. And if Tulsi Gabbard wants a future in politics, she'll do the same thing. I think her window has pretty much closed now that we're a month into the war. I don't know if there are too many people who would give her too much credit at this point. Uh but Joe Kent did it when it mattered, when it counted. And uh same for JD Vance. You

[1:01:14] know, the reporting is that he's against this war. Well, too bad, man. Too bad, man. Like like nobody's voting for you now. Like you're done. If you see the betting odds of his his presidential prospects, I mean, they have just gone straight down because uh you know, at a certain point, if you're not willing to stand on principle for something this consequential, uh then how can you be taken seriously? Like to me, if you're one of these people who you you mentioned, you know, the the the 5% real dealers, um they

[1:01:46] they they got to quit or else they're a zero. >> Yep. No disagreement. Um, you know, I'm already I was already very skeptical of of both Tulsi, who I've met and talked to a lot, um, and JD Vance, who I've never met. And I was just like, these people, they just seem like climbers. They seem like they'll they'll be principled when it doesn't matter and total sellouts when it does. And >> but I hoped, you know, I hoped and then Joe Kent did it. I was like, I was shocked. I really didn't expect that.

[1:02:16] And you know, obviously everybody's second guessing him, too, and they're trying to smear him. But I I think obviously what he did was the right thing to do. Whether or not he's doing it for motives of political, you know, grandeur down the road is really secondary to the fact that he did the [ __ ] right thing when he had to do it. And that does take courage and he is getting smeared and he is getting investigated. And it's like these are he took a major risk. So I I God bless him. That's how I feel about it. And as far as I'm concerned, anybody else in this cabinet, not only should you not be in

[1:02:46] contention for future presidential hopeful, you should be in contention for prison. Like that's how I feel about all these people. Um, and for the record, that's that's also how I felt about the Democrats with the proxy war in Ukraine. But anyways, >> well, maybe these ice jails can be used for, you know, [laughter] duopoly politicians someday, you know. Um, we can dream, right? >> Um, all right. Yeah, we got big crowd in here. 3435 in the YouTube chat. 8:20 on Rumble. We're here with Clint Russell, host of Liberty Lockdown. Go subscribe

[1:03:18] to his YouTube channel. It's a great >> is huge. >> It's huge. It's huge. >> Is Is that Is that big for you guys? I don't even know. 35. >> This is about our standard Sunday night show. It's about our standard Sunday night show. But yeah. >> Well, then then it wasn't it wasn't a drop off. That I told you we just had to have a different Russell in here. We're all good. >> That's right. As long as you get a Russell in here, you're good. Um I want to respect your time. Do you have time to do one more story with me? You want to talk about Trump's Easter message? >> Yeah, I would love to, man. I >> His moving Easter message. >> I've been venting all day about it. So, go ahead if you start. >> Let's do it. All right, everybody. So,

[1:03:49] Donald Trump had a very heartwarming Easter message this morning. I'm going to let you listen to it from Jake Tapper's uh mouth here. Now, get your kids out of the room if you have them. If if you show your kids this show, then you know, you have bigger things to worry about. But uh make sure you cover their precious little ears for this. Here's Jake Tapper reading Trump's uncensored Easter message to Iran. >> Has just threatened Iran in extraordinary graphic terms, giving the Iranian regime just over a day to either

[1:04:20] make a deal, reopen the straight of Hormuz, or face hell. If your children are watching, be warned. The president did not use polite language. Quote, "Tuesday will be power plant day and bridge day, all wrapped up in one in Iran. There will be nothing like it. Open the [ __ ] straight, you crazy bastards, or you'll be living in hell. Just watch." We should note that destroying civilian power infrastructure is generally considered to constitute a war crime under international law. Though the president could argue that

[1:04:51] the infrastructure has dual use and also is utilized by Iran's military. Let's get right to >> I was about to say he he was going to have to qualify that somehow because Tapper is one of the biggest Israel apologists in the media. So he had to be like now you shouldn't bomb civilian infrastructure unless of course you know as he says it has dual purpose you know then of course you know when when the Jews do it you can do right but uh yeah so he has >> as if utilities don't always have dual use as if the military can't use water and electricity and I mean come on >> it's a utility that's why it's called a

[1:05:22] utility because it has multiple uses that's why they're called utilities >> because it has utility >> right because [laughter] it has broad utility exactly that's why they call >> by the by the way you got to note too he did not say The uh the last line he did not say praise be to Allah. I thought that was notable. >> Oh, did he did he omit that? >> Living in hell. >> Cut it, dude. >> Just watch. We should note that destroying. >> Oh yeah, look at that. Wow. I didn't even catch consider war crime under the president. >> That's like serving a a Sunday without the cherry on top. No. Praise be to

[1:05:53] Allah. Wow. Wow. Good catch. I didn't even realize that. [laughter] >> Is he Jewish? >> Oh, yeah. Of course. Of course. >> Okay. I I didn't know. I I wonder if that's why he didn't say it. It's interesting. That could very well be. Um, so yeah, let's read it again. Tuesday will be power plant day and bridge day all wrapped up in one in Iran. There will be nothing like it. Open the [ __ ] straight, you crazy bastards, or you'll be living in hell. Just watch. Praise be to Allah. President Donald J. Trump. This is like, you know, he's treating the Iranians

[1:06:23] like a bad improv partner. You know, in improv comedy, the rule is you always say yes. You never say no. That's a block. And I was doing, you know, back in my old theater days, I was doing an improv show with someone who was a nice person. They were a very good actor, but they clearly were not versed in improv. So, we're doing an improv scene, and the audience shouts out, "Okay, you're both janitors." And so, all right. So, I start sweeping the floor. So, I tell him, "Do me a favor. Go sweep up that [ __ ] over there." And he says, "No blocks." And I'm like, "What the [ __ ]

[1:06:55] now? This scene is dead. This scene sucks now." So, we go back and forth. They say, "Sweep the floor." No. So, finally, I just scream at him. I say, "Sweep the [ __ ] floor." And I legitimately scared him and he went and did it so we could get the scene back going. That's what this reminded me of. Open the [ __ ] [laughter] straight like he keeps telling him to do it. They will not do it. And his only play is to just get louder and louder and of course threaten war crime after war crime. So, here's Fox News finally having to read this. It took them like an hour to read this. And so, uh, here

[1:07:26] is the Fox News reporter who apparently talked to Trump this morning. So, he reveals a few details of Trump's conversation with him. And then he >> There are bombshells in this, by the way. >> Oh, there are. There are. Yeah. We won't get to all of them, but the biggest one uh which I don't have queued up on the video is that uh Trump claims to have sent weapons to the Iranian protesters. Yep. >> Yeah. After they killed 45,000 of them, he waited till, you know, that's why, right? For reinforcements. Yeah, I'm sure. That's not true though. >> Exactly. [laughter] Yeah. So, here's uh

[1:07:57] Fox News. >> Good morning. I just spoke with President Trump for 15 minutes. He gave me some new details on the negotiations behind the scenes with the Iranians and what's going to happen if Iran does not make a good faith deal. The president tells me if they don't make a deal and fast, I'm considering blowing everything up and taking over the oil. The president went on to say you're going to see bridges and power plants dropping all over their country. Now, I asked him about the possibility of an agreement with the Iranians. He says those who are

[1:08:28] negotiating on behalf of Iran have been granted amnesty at this time so they can continue the talks. And the president tells me he thinks he'll be able to get a deal by tomorrow. He says, "I think there's a good chance tomorrow." They're negotiating now. All of this following the president's true social. >> Yeah. Yeah. Right now. Exactly. Yeah. No, this this this tactic of uh promising to bomb them back to the stone age while insisting you're making progress on negotiations. That's that's worked really well. >> It's it's very it's very key to remember, too, though. He makes these

[1:08:59] threats when the markets are closed and then he then he says, "We're making great progress at 8 8:59 a.m. East Coast time when the market's open." You know, >> that's true. That's true. Yeah, because this is supposed to juice the market now. So, I don't know. But you're right. You're right. Yeah. There you are. Right. right in the morning >> where he talked about these negotiations with the Iranians. We'll pull this up. He says, quote, "Tuesday will be power plant day and bridge day all wrapped up in one." In Iran, there will be nothing like it. Open the effing straight, you crazy bastards, or you'll be living in

[1:09:31] hell. Just watch. Praise be to Allah. The president there on True Social about this. >> He just brushes past that on Fox News. Praise be to Allah. >> Pull this up. says, quote, "Tuesday will be power plant day and bridge day, all wrapped up in one. In Iran, there will be nothing like it. Open the effing straight, you crazy bastards, or you'll be living in hell. Just watch. Praise be to Allah." The president posting there on True Social about this ongoing operation and his new red line for the

[1:10:01] Iranian regime. Now, the president also provided new details on what happened earlier this year as the Iranian regime took to the streets and slaughtered what the president tells me is 45,000 civilians in their own country after that took place. President Trump told me the United States sent guns to the Iranian protesters. He tells me, "We sent them a lot of guns. We sent them through the Kurds and the president says he thinks the Kurds kept them." Yeah, that was the other big sound bite that went far and wide. So, yeah, that was

[1:10:34] >> massive deal. >> Yeah. Oh, for sure. Uh, so Zed Galani says Trump needs to be removed from office. If JD Vance has any integrity left, he would be working to achieve this. The VP can't be fired by the president. Your first responsibility is to God and then to America, not to an insane boss. JD Chris Murphy, Democratic senator, said, "If I were in Trump's cabinet, I would spend Easter calling constitutional lawyers about the 25th Amendment. This is completely, utterly unhinged. He's already killed thousands.

[1:11:06] He's going to kill thousands more." Yes. Uh here is the Vermont Congresswoman uh saying, "If President Obama or President Biden had said anything remotely like this, it' be non-stop coverage." uh on every single channel >> to fly under the radar and hope that he doesn't tweet about them or truth about them. It's all about their self-preservation. And so, no, I don't expect that. I would like to see that, but it's usually only

[1:11:37] just, you know, one or two people in either chamber, and it's usually, you know, very, very muted. This is outrageous behavior from this president. And I know that we've said it before on this show and others that if President Biden or President Obama had said anything remotely like this, it would be non-stop coverage on every single channel and everyone in um the other side of the aisle in the House and the Senate would be howling about it and demanding that they step down. That's

[1:12:09] the reality. And so, no, they continue to let us down with their lack of uh courage, with their lack of moral compass, and it's they're they're an embarrassment. They're an embarrassment to the country that they represent Americans and yet do not stand up for them. >> I take I take this broad a lot more seriously if she was calling for Biden to be impeached over the Ukraine war. But anyway, >> well, of course, I mean, they all play that game. They all play that game for sure. >> Well, that that's what that's what makes the libertarians unique. That's what makes Thomas Massie so special is that he doesn't play that game. that he

[1:12:40] opposition to to both of these. So >> I mean the way the 25th amendment works apparently is the vice president starts the process. So that's why they're call that's why Z gelani is calling on Vance and that's why Chris Murphy said that the cabinet should consult constitutional lawyers because the way the 25th amendment is invoked is the vice president begins the proceeding then they need a majority of senior cabinet members to sign on and then if and when the president says no I'm not leaving then it goes to Congress for a vote at this point what is the political

[1:13:11] advantage to not getting him out of office either through a 25th amendment mechanism or through impeachment, he's tanking the party. I mean, the polls are just abysmal one day after another, lower and lower and lower. Like, not only does Trump not really command the Republican caucus anymore, I would argue he's a massive liability to the Republican party at this point. That became evident during the Epstein files. Once they got the 218th vote to release the Epstein files, what happened? Lots more Republicans were saying they're going to vote to

[1:13:41] release the Epstein files because now they're getting released anyway and they want to be on the right side of history and on the right side of the voters come the midterms. So at this point like what do you think like isn't it in their interest to try and have Trump removed either through impeachment or the 25th amendment? >> Yeah, I'll be I mean it's very clear as to why it's not is because if you go against him, you're going against Apac, you're going against Israel, right? and and they will give you the Massie treatment that they will put up a challenger or if you already have a challenger in the primary or in the

[1:14:12] general, they will fund them. So that's the whole reason it's not about principle. It's not about even like tactical benefit. Like I think you're right. I think that in terms of like voter popularity, all things being equal, a lot of them probably would abandon the MAGA Trump ship, but because like the the the money that flows behind any sort of uh left or right politician who comes out in real uh defense or uh objection to Trump or

[1:14:44] APEC or Israel or the warfare state or to the or the Iran war or Gaza for that matter. uh that's when you are really really jeopardized as an incumbent to being thrown out of office. So unfortunately that that seems to be the biggest threat that incumbents face. It's bigger than anything else basically. So until that changes, I don't know how we're going to actually get enough courageous people to do the right thing. >> Yeah. No, I mean I think you're right. I think that has to be the only if if if the if a democratic will within America

[1:15:16] was paramount then I think these people would see it as in their interest to vote to impeach Trump. >> Right. >> But obviously as you mentioned the will of the people is not paramount. In fact it's it's next to meaningless. >> It's not it's not secondary. It's not tertiary. It's like it's irrelevant. >> It's irrelevant. Exactly. Uh, so here's Adam Kinzinger who is a total piece of [ __ ] But I got to, you know, I admire a good joke no matter who it comes from. Poly market 99 to1 odds against the president praising Allah on Easter.

[1:15:48] [laughter] >> Trump maybe. >> Oh man, that sucks. That's a great tweet. >> Great joke. Don't you hate it when someone you hate makes a good joke. I hate that. I got to give it to you. >> He's one of my least favorite people on earth. That really hurts it. That's a great tweet. >> He's dreadful. But yeah, man. that well that's that's what makes comedy great is it's involuntary. You can't help but laugh. >> Exactly. Which is why by the way it's very it's really funny too because reading that tweet I don't think I've ever been more angry at a politician in my life this morning when I woke up and saw that. But then hearing newscasters

[1:16:20] have to read it. I was laughing hysterically. I could not stop laughing. So it is a it's an interesting [laughter] >> Well, I saw you tweeted that you thought it was a fake and I thought it was a fake too when I first read it. No, cuz he doesn't tweet. He truths. So they're all screenshots so you never know. >> Exa Exactly. Exactly. >> So like is this real? And then when you see like 20 other people posting like I guess >> No. Then it was from the some White House associate. >> Yeah. The official account. Yeah. >> Yeah. Did it. I was like oh my god. Um >> but then one other one other point one

[1:16:50] other point I wanted to make about the impeachment question that you were talking about. The other reason that they're not going to do it is because I don't think I don't think that they will vote because they will be told that he is fighting the war we want him to fight. And all of you were basically given a a pass on voting on the war powers resolution to allow for you to still go and pretend as if you oppose this war and try and win your your primary or win your generals. So shut the [ __ ] up. We're not We can give lip service to CNN or whatever as to how

[1:17:22] dangerous and insane he is, but when it comes down to the vote, I bet you a ton of Democrats and Republicans would would vote to keep him. Tons. That is a question. I mean, I think Democrats would probably vote to bounce him just because of the political benefit, but Republicans, I mean, it's interesting question. I mean, I think we'll get that chance. I mean, I think the Democrats are going to win the House and they'll impeach him. So, we'll see what happens at that point. Uh, but this >> I mean right now before the midterms. If it happens, if it happens after, then

[1:17:53] yeah, maybe it'll be different, >> right? >> Rachel Blevens tweets out, Trump has 24 hours before markets open, so he has to get all of his deranged threats out before he comes and backs out and tells you talks are ongoing and Iran is about to capitulate. >> He also needs >> to distract from the US military's costly mess of a rescue of the downed F15 pilots. That's the other thing that was so crazy about this is his previous truth was announcing the rescue of the pilot. Okay, so you have something resembling a feel-good story. Not that any of this is feel good, but he can tout a victory and having recovered the

[1:18:25] pilot. You'd think he'd want to like cruise on that through the morning shows, right? Let your let your uh let your surrogates go out there and brag about this rescue mission. And no, you step on it with this [ __ ] just unhinged [ __ ] [laughter] It's just unbelievable. It's really unbelievable. I mean, a lot of people are saying he's demonically possessed, and I'm like, "Yeah, maybe." [laughter] Like, honestly, it's so it's so deranged, it's almost hard to quantify. Like, >> he's losing it. I mean, the guy's losing it. I mean, look, he was 70 in 2016. I

[1:18:56] mean, the the the difference between, you know, uh, uh, 79 and 69. That's not the difference between, you know, 35 and 45. You know, you you lose a lot in those 10 years. And uh no, he's clearly he's clearly not playing with a full deck anymore. So I like Mario, >> something deeply wrong. >> Something's going on there. Mario Nall says, "If I had to take a guess, Trump is not serious with these threats. This is a bluff to force Iran to accept an end to the war. And if it works, this is a rosy rosy eyed look here. If it works,

[1:19:27] Trump deserves his flowers for accepting the war didn't go as planned and seeking an off-ramp. Most other presidents may have doubled down getting stuck in another forever war. That's your read on this that he's not doubling down. Open the [ __ ] straight or you'll live in hell. [laughter] >> Praise be to Allah. That this is a sign to you that he's come to his senses. Like what are you kidding? What is that? A joke? Is this April Fool's Day? >> This is what I'm talking about with the the bot and paid for influencers. It's

[1:19:58] pervasive. >> Jesus Christ. >> It it just drives me absolutely insane. There's like there's no rational read of that that says that he's, you know, playing for peace. I mean, that's >> what the hell of it. >> It's about as insane a thing as you can possibly say. And and just for the record, just so people know that like I'm not some Trump derangement guy. Like I voted for the dude. I thought that there was a chance he was for real. I recognize that this is like his cadence. This is how he goes about diplomacy is to talk like a lunatic. He did the same thing with Kim Jong-un. Was it Ilun? I forget. Um and then he Yeah. Yeah. And

[1:20:29] then he crossed the DMZ and he met with him and it was like so that was that was good Trump, you know, talk crazy, be a wild card, but then actually be interested in peace. This version of him is talk crazy, be a wild card, have no interest in peace, >> right? [laughter] Take your actual cues from Mark Leavine and talk like a [ __ ] uh you know uh belligerent drunk, you know, at 3:00 in the morning. No, it's unbelievable because when he won in 2016, as much as I said like I

[1:20:59] didn't vote for him, but I was rooting for him. And the night that he won, one of my biggest regrets in my life, my friend, I was living in Brooklyn at the time, so New York City is a huge Hillary town. And my friend, who is a big libertarian just like you, was at a bar in the village, and he said, "Come out to this bar, you know, come out to this bar with me. There are all these Hillary people crying." And I'm like, "No, man. I I was glued to my TV." Like I didn't want to miss anything cuz to get to the bar would have been like 40 minutes and they didn't have internet on the subway back then. So I would have missed a lot.

[1:21:30] Like I don't want to miss it when they call it like once in a lifetime. So I didn't go and I'm like damn it I should have [ __ ] gone cuz that would have been just so much fun to be in their company when he won. So I was rooting for him. But as so as like as exciting as it was that he beat Hillary, the thought did cross my mind. And I'm like, "Okay, this is all fun and I'm glad it happened, but this guy is kind of a [ __ ] lunatic. Like, what if he is leading us during wartime? Like, won't that be crazy scary?" >> And luckily, the first time it didn't

[1:22:01] happen, but here we are. Now it's happening. And now I'm thinking about like in 2016 when you stopped and you're like, "Wait a minute. What if this guy what if this guy brings us to war? Is this the kind of guy you want leading you?" Maybe it won't happen, but now here we are. It's like that worst case scenario in your head when I had, you know, half a bottle of scotch in me smoking cigars as he's winning. I'm like, "Yeah, now that worst fear has come true." >> I couldn't agree more. Um, and as I said when I in the episode where I announced that I was going to vote for him. Worst case scenario is, you know, war with

[1:22:32] Iran that spirals into World War II. [laughter] That's literally what I said. Um, but I said, you know, I think it's 5% chance. No, not a super high chance. And I was wrong. Um, just to also explain a little bit more about why I oppose it so deeply, aside from the moral factor, I haven't even talked about, you know, the financial factor, which is really my expertise. I was my background is as a finance guy. [clears throat] We are jeopardizing the dollars reserve status like in a way that is >> Oh, yeah. >> outrageously egregious. Um, and what's really fascinating is that many of the

[1:23:04] Trump water carriers, Khan Inc. as I call them, they have been even some of the ones that are my friends like Tim Pool, uh, you know, he would argue that no, we have to do all of these wars in the Middle East because it's about preventing other countries from trading currencies other than the dollar and to a certain extent that was true historically. So I was like, look, I don't agree with it. I don't agree with the empire. I don't agree with the fiat system or the Federal Reserve, but I do [clears throat] understand, you know, how you actually maintain that strangle hold on the financial system on global trade so you can continue to just print

[1:23:36] and borrow and spend to oblivion because the only reason that you can is because the money is diffused to the rest of the planet. This is so different. I just really need to the reason I'm doing this long monologue is I really need to emphasize this to your audience if they're not aware. This is so different because the whole reason that people trade in the US dollar is because we have been the policemen of the world that we have controlled the waterways. So that has enabled other countries to not have massive expenditures when it comes to defense because we will lay out that money so that they don't have to.

[1:24:08] That was the deal. You know, that's the whole petro dollar system. This with the straight of hormuz is the most insane thing I've ever seen. I mean he is just saying like everybody everybody for decades knew you go to war with Iran first thing they do is shut down the straight everybody knew this right >> now afterwards Pete Hexath and Trump and others there's reports saying no one pulled him this it was impossible for anyone to foresee this coming but the point that I'm trying to get to is the fact that the president of the United States would come out and say we don't

[1:24:38] need the straight you guys need this is just like it's announcing to the world that you have to start trading in things other than the dollar. That's what he's saying. And I just for the life of me, there is no tactical angle to that that makes sense. Everything that we've done, if you buy into that thesis, the the uh petrod dollar hypothesis when it comes to our foreign policy, none of this makes sense. And I that's the I just wanted to give this kind of cherry on top of the Sunday as to why I know this

[1:25:08] is for Israel because there is no way any president would be doing what he's doing especially when it comes to straight hormuz because it is jeopardizing our entire financial system and therefore our entire empire not just the GOP not just Trump's legacy. The dollar's purchasing power is imperiled existentially and you only do that if you're working for somebody else and he is. >> Yeah. No, I think that that is uh extremely well said and I think it was also I mean all you had to do you didn't

[1:25:40] need anybody to tell you Pete Hegathth you just had to look at a map look at how long the Iranian coastline is look at what it sits on it >> look at the [ __ ] mountain ranges you imbecile [laughter] >> exactly >> this is this is Afghanistan on steroids I mean it's it's the craziest thing we've ever done it really is I mean it's right up there I I I have to immediately walk that back because we did lock down the world over a man-made pathogen and we also had a proxy war with the largest the two largest nuclear powers on Earth and we didn't even pick up the phone to

[1:26:11] talk to each other. So, it's a high bar, but I think this might be the highest. I mean, we just keep going dangerously closer to the to the edge. I I'm >> Yeah, I think it's easily the worst decision an American president has made in our lifetimes. Like I think the COVID response was a sort of cascading bureaucracy, you know, that that just kind of just ballooned. This is like, okay, you're the executive, you say yes or no >> to invading Iran. >> Trump's decision to say yes is the worst

[1:26:42] decision by any president in our lifetime. I think there's no question about that. And it's it's really remarkable, too, because a lot of a lot of the Connie Quarter characters are coming out and saying they're taking that clip or that that quote about how every president got the same intel and every president said no and only Donald Trump was the the brave enough to do it. It's like you [ __ ] idiots. That's the you should read that the exact opposite. Every other president was lied to and said that Iran was days away from nukes.

[1:27:12] And every other president said, "You're lying Zionist propagandist and I'm not going to do this and ruin my [ __ ] legacy." And every president was right to say no. And he was the first one dumb enough to say yes. And you are going to you're going to tout that as him being courageous? You imbecile. I can't believe these people can even function in life. I I don't understand it. >> Yeah. No. No. You're No, no argument there. So, I hate to I hate to feature Michael Tracy unironically, but I have to because the Wall Street Journal article was paywalled and he found this.

[1:27:44] So, uh Trump thinks the people of Iran want him to bomb their power plants and bridges. So, this is a this is an interview that the Wall Street Journal released uh with Trump today. But we are in a position that's very strong and that country will take 20 years to rebuild if they're lucky if they have a country, he said. And if they don't do something by Tuesday evening, they won't have any power plants and they won't have any bridges standing. Asked if he's concerned, the people of Iran, a country of 93 million people, could suffer if civilian infrastructure is hit. Trump

[1:28:15] said, "No, they want us to do it." Arguing the Iranian people are living in hell. No, they they want us to commit war crimes against them and bomb their bridges and their power plants. I mean, like I said, this is just truly unhinged. I mean, he he is he's gone. He's toast. I mean, his brain is soup at this point. Um, >> even the Hodge Twins are like, "Is Trump okay?" [laughter] >> Even the Hodge twins. Well, they make that they point out a good thing. Is Trump okay? I thought he said the straight wasn't our problem. Yeah, that's right. This was March 31st. This

[1:28:45] was five days ago. It feels like two years ago by now, but it's five, not even a week ago. >> He was he was saying it on the first and second, too. >> Yeah. No, just like a few days ago. He's saying all the countries that can't get jet fuel because of the straight of hormones, like the UK, which refuse to get involved, I have a suggestion for you. Number one, buy from the US. We have plenty. And number two, build up some delayed courage. Go to the straight and just take it. You'll have to start learning how to fight for yourself. The USA won't be there to help you anymore,

[1:29:17] just like you weren't there for us. Iran has been essentially decimated. Excuse me. The [clears throat] hard part is done. Go get your own oil. President DJT. So less than a week ago, he's saying we're not getting involved in reopening the straight of whor moose. Go get your own oil. And now it's open the [ __ ] straighter. We're gonna like it is just it is >> on Easter morning. By the way, >> still warning. >> I I mean the I'm I'm just disappointed that he didn't open or end all of these tweets with Alahu Akbar just to really drive home how nuts he is.

[1:29:47] >> Exactly. [laughter and gasps] So Kovi says the [ __ ] straight was [ __ ] open before he [ __ ] started the bomber. That's the thing. You're playing just to get back to even. Like in gambling they call this chasing it. You sit down at the table, you lose a bunch of money, and you spend all night desperate to get it back. And you usually just end up losing more. Like at this point, the objective is to get back to even. It's just insane. >> Definitional sunk sunk cost fallacy. I mean, that's that's all this is at this point. Um and and the thing is,

[1:30:17] >> you know, people keep saying like >> I don't think I don't think any of these people understand anything. You know, it's like I'm not I don't have a military background, but at least I've read, you know, like I understand that you cannot take the straight of Hormuz unless you have a permanent force that is able to put up a a defensive barrier of some enormous size that's going to be able to keep these boats from being attacked because it doesn't require you don't have to have like a functioning military to stop shut down a waterway of this size. You have to have like RPGs

[1:30:50] and AK-47s just coming out from the shore and then going back into a bunker like you can. And not to mention obviously they have missile capacity that can do it then drone capacity that can do it. I mean if you don't come to an agreement with Iran I don't know how you reopen the straight. I genuinely don't. And like other than fullon invasion million plus force draft like you've got to go all the way or you nuke them. I mean, these are these are his options. >> And it's just like none of this had to happen. We didn't have to be here at

[1:31:20] all. You're overtly doing this on behalf of the donor class or whoever's got a literal gun held to your head. >> I just I what what really pisses me off is that like the other people who maybe aren't like literally existentially threatened right now that they're not coming out and going like he's he's under threat. He's in he's under he's under duress, whatever. um his sons, man. It's just I don't know. I lost my dad in uh in October this year

[1:31:50] or last year and it's just like >> and my dad was kind of kind of losing his mind at the end and I just it just totally reminds me of you know that feeling and I was like if how does Don Jr. or Eric [laughter] not go either go to their dad and try and take his phone away, take his car keys away or go to the media? I mean or something like I don't know. It's just it's [ __ ] it's really scary. We're living through dangerous times. >> It's absolutely terrifying. It's terrifying. So, Donald Trump says now Tuesday 8:00 p.m. Eastern time. So, I

[1:32:22] guess he extended the deadline a little bit. Again, maybe that's to give the markets some room to breathe. But, uh, no, just just uh absolutely terrifying. So Marjorie Taylor Green reacted to Donald Trump's uh Easter tweet once again is Easter tweet. Tuesday will be power plant day and bridge day all wrapped up in one in Iran. There will be nothing like it. Open the effing straight you crazy bastards or you'll be

[1:32:54] living in hell. Just watch. Praise be to Allah. President Donald J. Trump. So Marjorie Taylor Green had a very strong response to this. She says, "On Easter morning, this is what President Trump posted. Everyone in his administration that claims to be a Christian needs to fall on their knees and beg forgiveness from God and stop worshiping the president and intervene in Trump's madness. I know all of you and him and he has gone insane. All of you are complicit. I'm not defending Iran, but

[1:33:25] let's be honest about all this. The strait is closed because the US and Israel started the unprovoked war against Iran based on the same nuclear lies they've been telling for decades that any moment Iran would develop a nuclear weapon. You know who has nuclear weapons? Israel. They are more than capable of defending themselves without the US having to fight their wars, kill innocent people and children and pay for it. Trump threatening to bomb power plants and bridges hurts the Iranian people. the very people Trump claimed he

[1:33:55] was freeing. On Easter of all days, we as Christians should be reminded that the Son of God died and rose from the grave so that we can be forgiven once and for all of our sins. Jesus commanded us to love one another and forgive one another, even our enemies. Now, here's where she really goes for the throat. Our president is not a Christian, and his words and actions should not be supported by Christians. Christians in the administration should be pursuing peace, urging the president to make peace, not escalating war that is

[1:34:27] hurting people. This is not what we promised the American people when they overwhelmingly voted in 2024. I know I was there more than most. This is not making America great again. This is evil. So, that is perhaps as hard as she's ever gone against Donald Trump, saying he's not a Christian. I mean, of course, she's taken a lot of this personally as someone who has not only supported Trump for a long time, but really dug in to defend him when even all of Washington was against him, including his own party. I remember the

[1:34:58] day after January 6th, maybe it was a day or two days after, Lindsey Graham was ready to wash his hands of Trump. He said, "Yeah, there's some good things that he did, but I'm done. This is" and she was wearing CO masks that said Trump won on them. Like, she was as loyal as you could be through the worst of it. through when it looked like Trump was never going to have any kind of comeback story to tell. And for her to come out and now say he's not a Christian and that this is evil. Yeah, that that's probably her most damning statement against him uh ever. What do you think

[1:35:29] about that? >> Well, I completely agree with your assessment, but I'll just add that she's 100% right. Like he is not a Christian. Um and I think that it's important that people who are come out and say that like he's not behaving in a Christian manner. And I think that this is really the bastardization of Christianity that has radicalized Tucker Carlson into becoming what I consider to be an anti-war activist at this point. Like he is really radicalized by watching people skin suiting his religion and then

[1:36:00] espousing death and destruction on behalf of that religion. He is like [ __ ] furious about it. This is what he got in a lot of trouble a month ago or couple months ago for saying there's no one he hates more. This is Tucker Carlson. There's no one he hates more than Christian Zionist. >> Yeah, I remember that. Y >> and then he walked it back and he said, "I don't hate anybody." And d I know exactly why he said that because that's exactly how he feels that these are supposed to be his people and they are, you know, Judas or whatever. Um, so I think that's I think probably MTG woke

[1:36:33] up in the morning, had the exact same reaction I did and probably you did and just fired it off and told the truth like the unvarnished truth, damn the consequences. So, God bless her. I think I think it's really important. >> Yeah. Yeah. Me, too. And I think if she can break with Trump in this dramatic way, then really like like what is the excuse for anybody at this point? Like, if she can deprogram herself, uh, then why can't some of the rank and file do the same thing? And I'm just talking about like people who will tell a pollster, "Yes, I support Donald Trump." I mean, MAGA also got MAGA would always

[1:37:06] get criticized. They would always get called a cult by the liberals. And I always kind of defended them against that charge because I always thought a liberals were extremely cultlike around Hillary Clinton, around Joe Biden, and around Kla Harris, and just around their general sort of orthodoxies >> and Obama. >> And Obama. Sure thing. Um, but I I always kind of thought that, you know, there is sort of freedom of thought within MAGA. And I guess that was true. I think this first year has sort of led

[1:37:37] the freethinking Trump supporters to the exits. And now what you're left with is an actual cult. >> Like I'm not saying everybody who voted for Trump was in a cult. I'm saying like at this point all of the freethinkers have left the building. I think what you're stuck with now is a genuine cult of personality. >> Well, not just a cult, but a death cult. Like a cult. A cult that actually worships death. >> Yeah. I agree. >> And I think that's that's what's so so deeply concerning about it. I mean, just for the record, like that's the reason

[1:38:07] that I got on the MAGA bandwagon, even if it was just a tentative toe, was that like I saw in them a sincere what appeared to be a sincere awakening to the absolute catastrophe that was nation building, that was our foreign policy, >> right? >> And and I did not see that amongst the Democrats cuz if I had, I probably would have put a toe on the Democrat bandwagon. Um, but that it seemed totally sincere and and now it's just like their guy is doing it and half of

[1:38:37] them have completely abandoned all their principles. So, but I do want to agree with you and, you know, say not all hope is lost. I mean, when they say 30 when they say 100% of MAGA supports Trump and Trump says that you're only MAGA if you support me, okay, well, then we already know what we're dealing with, which is a [ __ ] poll that doesn't matter, right? >> Um, but also MAGA constitutes 30% or less of the electorate at this junction. So, it's like we're actually talking about a completely dead political movement. Like, it's not as dead as Libertarian [laughter] Party, but it's still dead in terms of winning general

[1:39:09] elections, in terms of winning federal elections. Like, MAGA is toast. So, it's not a cult. Like, it's definitely not a cult. You would never see approval ratings get this bad after being as high as they were, as rapidly as they have. And the only reason that happened is because MAGA wasn't a cult. But, it's now completely demolished. and all of the people who were not cult members are gone. So, but it doesn't mean that it's not a big problem. I mean, we have 30% of the electorate, which are [ __ ] psychopaths and have no principles to speak of. So, it's a problem.

[1:39:40] >> Uh, yep. I agree. All right, Clint Russell, thanks so much for being here with us tonight. I really appreciate you joining. Uh, you want to tell everybody where they can find you? >> Sure. Liberty Lockpot onx. You can follow me there. And Liberty Lockdown is the show. Glint Russell's the name. And that's basically all I do. So, thank you for having me, Keith, and I hope I filled in for Russell accordingly. >> Oh, you were fantastic. You were fantastic. It was a great great conversation. Really appreciate you coming on. Hopefully, we survive this. And if we if we survive this and make it

[1:40:10] back to simpler times, I'll have you on again. We could fight about the billionaire tax, you know, but that seems like a trivial debate at this point when we're all about to die. >> Um, so thank you, man. Really appreciate it. Great pleasure to meet you. >> Thanks for joining. >> Thank you, guys. >> All righty. Bye. >> Bye. >> It's Clint Russell, everybody. Round of applause in the chat. That was a great talk. Really appreciate Clint making time for us tonight. We got a bunch of super chats in Rumble Rants. Jake is in the building tonight. Shout out to Jake. We also got 3,998

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[1:42:46] solo tonight before we go to the Q&A. It is Sunday night, so we'll be going over uh to a Q&A uh as well. Uh before we get into Rumble Rants and super chats, though, I do want to uh just share some uh sad news with the community here. Uh heartbreaking news from the Indie News Network. All the members of Indie News Network are so sad to see our friend and sister Shondaanda Masta succumb to her battle with cancer today. This was a few days ago on April 2nd. She was a bright

[1:43:18] light that will be missed by so many. And I tweeted out, "A kind soul taken far too soon. Spoke with her about a month back. She was in such great spirits. Ja was very brave and will be very much missed." Yeah, I got a call from uh my friend Pasta Jardulla. Uh this had to be about a month ago and I missed the call and uh good thing I called him back when I did because I was thinking h you know it was it was a little late. I'm thinking maybe I'll call him back in the morning but I'm like

[1:43:49] let me call him back right now. And so I called him back and he had actually flown out uh to be by Shondaanda's side when she had taken a turn for the worse. And she actually wanted to talk to me. She wanted to thank me and thank the show for, you know, promoting her uh, you know, fundraisers and stuff like that. And we we did very little u for her. I wish we had done more. I wish we could have gotten involved in in some bigger way. Perhaps I wish we we had,

[1:44:22] but uh the point is we we had done relatively little. I mean, what we did was easy. And uh she still when Pasta was visiting her, she wanted to to talk to me and say thank you. And so um you know I spent probably about 5 10 minutes on the phone with her and she was very happy. She was she was in great spirit. She was very kind um to be thinking, "Hey, let me let me thank Katon. Like what are you what are you thanking me for?" I hardly did anything. But it was uh it was very moving conversation. She was in very good spirits seemingly

[1:44:55] through the end. That was the last time I talked to her and she had kind of ups and downs and so we were all pulling for her and um it's of course very sad uh to see her taken this soon. But I did want to uh give a shout out uh to the Indie News Network and to all of our friends over there. So go follow Indie News Network uh on X and on Substack. Um and you can learn more about Shondaanda and celebrate her life uh over there. And so condolences to her friends and her

[1:45:26] family and her colleagues uh over there. Uh we will certainly miss uh Shondaanda de Masta. Uh and yeah, thanks to Pasta of course for uh connecting us uh on the on the phone that day because that was that was the last time I talked to her. Uh and so that is very sad, very sad and she will be very much missed. Very much missed. Uh Viicus Prime says everything's a scam. Everything's a lie, including the idea that rabbits [ __ ] each other to make eggs. [laughter] Lol.

[1:45:59] Good one. Good one. Vienticus Prime. One of my kids, uh, Sawyer, is into um, nonsensical jokes. They're not even dad jokes. They're worse than dad jokes. They're like, they're jokes that make no sense. He asked me the other day, he says, "What did the tree say?" I said, "What did the tree say?" He said, "The tree said, knee." Get it? tree me. [snorts] That would be a good joke book to write. Just a a a book of nonsensical jokes of jokes that don't mean anything.

[1:46:31] I'm telling you, like he could be like a YouTube star with that. That could be like an Andy Calfman act. Just this this, you know, little eight-year-old kid that tells tells jokes that he's really proud of that make no sense at all. [snorts] Uh but that was a good one. Vienticus, that made sense. Uh RB Hams Beyond the Pale podcast says, "Get up king last night was great. Ex-US military Colonel Anthony Aguular gave great insight into Gaza from an insider POV." Yeah, Agular is great. Agular is terrific. So congrats to RB on land in

[1:47:01] that. That's awesome. Me shoot, thanks for the super sticker. Thanks to Jake for fielding these tonight, of course. Vienticus Prime says, "Tell Russell not to have any anime memes. They just rounded up 800,000 people for anime memes in China. Oh, interesting. Maybe I'll send him a good one. Haha. Is that true? Wow. Luckily, he's not into that. He's not into that. But he's going to be going live uh on his channel uh

[1:47:31] throughout his his travels there. Um so, you know, you can you can pass that warning along to him. I mean, I will too. Uh just in case. Remember that no one hates your beef. Thank you, Mr. to Silva. Appreciate that. Vienticus Prime says, "Just because I feel the need to say it proper. Everything's a scam. Everything's a lie. Everything's hypocrisy. And so you don't comply." Got it. Where would we be without you? If there's not the perfect episode, at least economically, that the enemy of my enemy is my friend. It's this episode

[1:48:04] with Katon and Russell. Love it. Yeah. You know, I mean, look, like the thing I like about the libertarians is that you can disagree with them and they don't want to throw you in [ __ ] prison for it. You know what I mean? Like, I can have a conversation with him. You know, you [ __ ] disagree with uh Jonathan Greenblat, he'll [ __ ] he'll he'll he'll [ __ ] make a phone call and there'll be the [ __ ] feds kicking down your door three days later, you know? So, no. I mean, I I can I can I can roll with the libertarians

[1:48:36] for sure. Libertarians are ridiculous. They want freedom for corporate totalitarianism to be free from any democratic influence. They claim to be for freedom. Yeah, that that is one of the contradictions I think in a lot of manifestations of libertarianism. I mean, I've been reading more about anarchism lately since people would often tell me I'm more an anarchist than a Marxist. And I think you know certain forms of anarchism involve sort of you know voluntary collectivization that doesn't necessarily need a state to

[1:49:07] distribute resources but voluntary collectivization of economic efforts. Now that is of course utopian. That's why like I'm not doctrinating I'm not here to sell anybody on any theory, right? Um, but you know, I think like you can have a more equal distribution of resources without necessarily having a centralized state. And I would I could talk with Clint about that. It'll be interesting to see what he thinks about that. But, of course, that was not the purpose of the conversation tonight. The purpose of the conversation tonight was to uh you know

[1:49:40] explore common grounds and common uh interests and just a common framework that you know and this one of the reasons why he appreciated what I said was like hey look um our policy disagreements don't matter if we can't influence the government. If the government is beyond our influence then you know I could argue with you till I'm blue in the face and you can do the same and it just it doesn't matter. Um, we have to figure out a way uh for people to start exerting some influence on our

[1:50:11] government again. And I think we are both in agreement uh on that. Um, Nong Nong Nong, if the Dems win the House and impeach Trump, $20 says it will be for desecrating the rose garden or some such [ __ ] and not for war crimes or any sort of oligarchic corruption. Well, maybe they'll be like a real prosecutor and just hit him with everything, you know, just throw the kitchen sink at him. Throw, you know, 50 counts. Uh, RB Ham, so has Clint figured out yet that the Butler incident was a psychological operation? Trump is in the WWE Hall of

[1:50:42] Fame for a reason. Thanks, RB. And congrats on your Agular interview. The crowd seems to have liked it. Budy, thanks for the $5. DD and Liberty Lockdown are both in my top five mostwatched channels. This is awesome. Pour one out for cat turret. Thank you. Yeah, I like Clint's show, you know, like I said, like, you know, he uh, you know, even on the show tonight, he has this kind of he has a soothing way about him, you know, even though we're talking about the same dystopian [ __ ] you know,

[1:51:13] he has this he has this calming influence on you. Not like this show. You listen to this show too much, you have a [ __ ] nervous breakdown. [snorts] Uh, so that's why I like his show. And I do like his show quite a bit. Brad Gilbert. The butler bullet is AI generated. Crop and tested. Paty never reaches the roof. Apex can't shoot down uh at Trump or crowd staged. They don't give a [ __ ] about Corey. That's a dumb weak point. The they bomb babies. FFS. Corey. Oh, you mean the firefighter. I got it. Um

[1:51:46] Brad Gilbert. F you. YouTube. 10 minutes to write around your editors. right around your editors. Not sure what that means. Thank you though, Angry Pearl. I hope everyone was careful this Easter. After all, bunnies are deadly. Just one nearly took down King Arthur and his mean men during their quest for the Holy Grail. That's right. That's right. That has documented fact. Angry Pearl, appreciate that. Uh, Peter Monahan, Gator Pete, I'm late. Sorry. I get it, but I can't afford but I need to have a voice. A semblance of existence. It's not much, but it's what I can do to

[1:52:16] support you. Okay. Well, thank you, Peter. I appreciate that. I appreciate that. But please do be careful with that. And it's call-in night, so you're free to call in that you can do uh for free. Angry Pearl DD, recently the Real News Network wrote a follow-up article on East Palestine, Ohio. Have you seen it? No. Thank you for the tip. I will check that out because I always like to cover that story when I can, and it is not easy to find that anywhere near the front pages nowadays. So, I will check that out. Appreciate it. I was part of

[1:52:48] uh I was part of a fundraiser for East Palestine with uh uh Savage Joy and I believe Max Alvarez from the Real News Network was on that stream. He wasn't on with me. We each had like individual slots, but I'm I think he was a part of that. So maybe that was his article, but I will I will check it out. Thank you. Nong Nong. Ultimately, Israel is a pampered US tankbait colony owned by the deep state to provoke war in West Asia and bribe and blackmail US politicians and institutions. Indeed, mislead XX.

[1:53:20] Thanks for the $5. US strategic dominance of the Middle East is through Israel. This idea that the US is some victim of influence is ridiculous. Yeah, but it's it's not a victim of influence. Like this is the like even Norm fell into this thing, you know, getting really hung up in the semantics about saying we were duped or that we're just innocent. And I I don't think any of this says any of that. Like I don't think the US is a victim of Israeli influence. I think the United States

[1:53:51] made a deal with the devil that we're going to back Israel and that doesn't mean that Israel doesn't take the lead in certain situations like we're still Yes. Of course, the United States is still guilty of going into business with a a murderous state like Israel. Like, we're still guilty. Like, like the the to say Israel led us into war is not to say that we're a child that just, you know, holds our mother's hand and they

[1:54:21] they march us into a war that we want nothing to do with. That's not to say that at all. Um, so yeah, I don't think one thing necessarily means the second thing. Uh, Vienticus Prime, you know, master blaster from Bartertown. Israel is a master in the US is blaster. There you go. If that helps. Yes, thanks. Thanks, uh, Vienticus for uh, putting it more poetically. Uh, Empire we are. In the 90s, I was deep within the MIC. I had the unfortunate experience of

[1:54:52] working with Israelis. There's no distance between what we have and what we give to them. None. Thank you, Empire. We are. French Laundry. free the church of the holy sepulcher from Israelis those regards it's Easter for god's sake yeah so pizzaala did do a uh mass there but the attendance was like next to nothing next to nothing good Friday was the the same thing the same thing as I understand it the the Israeli Jews couldn't even like gather around the wall for Passover I think they have the whole thing just like locked down so

[1:55:23] yeah no really really just dreadful situation Clint getting smeared is called character development. Part of the counter up of getting out ahead of the curve. Kent, Tucker, Candace, and Chump. All ops. Peter Monahan. $5 already missed Katon saving money to move to Daang. $250 versus Yeah. $3,57 on 12:30. Yeah. Well, man, I mean, I don't know if Russell got into specifics. I won't get into specifics because I don't want to reveal

[1:55:55] how much money he's spending, but it's very, very little. like shockingly little on like hotels and lodging. Like it it's just unbelievably cheap to to go there. Um, Professor Brown note Donald pull out like your father should have. Thank you. Vanticus Prime, why wouldn't the president post on Truth Social talking to the Iranians? Why would the Iranian government have ever gotten on to Truth Social? The Iranians keep insisting that like they're not talking. So, this is all just a meltdown. I mean,

[1:56:26] it's all just a complete meltdown. Uh, Peter Monahan, cheeseburger, cheeseburger, cheeseburger, no soup for you. Thank you, Gator Pete. Uh, Kira Regina, thanks for the $5. If a war fighter wants to put his war dick in another war fighter's war assass, is that cool with Pete? Asking for a friend. Thank you, Kira. And by the way, Pete Monahan, if you're tight on money and you insist on on donating, which I

[1:56:57] would really caution you against if you're tight on money, man, because I know you were having a hard time. Um, if you rumble, you can rumble rampant for a dollar a piece. Like, I really don't feel comfortable accepting donations if you're close to the wall like that. Um, so just please please be careful. Um, Sparky, uh, look on the bright side. President Trump's intellectual deficits could lead to the demise of Israel. Iran is a whole stack full of missiles and drones to shower them for a couple years. That's the thing. It's not even

[1:57:27] in Israel's rational interest so much as they're just absolutely psychotic. I mean, you talk about a death cult. I mean, if Zionism is not a death cult, what is? Remember, says Sparky, Muslims rever Jesus to Israelis, not so much. Good point. Dementia is apparently contagious. Trump is getting it from his buddy Biden. All right. I've told this joke before. It's not a joke. It's It's a story. It's how I became friends with one of my best friends for life. It's Easter weekend. It's a good time to tell this joke. True fans of the show going

[1:57:57] back a while probably heard this before, but it was uh it was I guess it must have been around Easter weekend because it was around the time when The Passion of the Christ came out in 2004. And I was in high school and uh you know, I sat around a lunch table with a bunch of kids. You know, this Roman Catholic Italian kid was busting my friend's balls because my friend was Jewish and we weren't even friends at the time. This is what made me want to be his friend. So, he's busting the Jewish kids balls. He says, "I saw the Passion of the Christ this weekend. I thought it was disgraceful what your

[1:58:29] people did to Jesus Christ. Just the the cruelty, the brutality. How could you do that to someone? How could you beat them and drag them through and then spear them? how could you treat our Lord and Savior that way? And my friend says, "It seemed like a good idea at the time." That was his answer. That was a great That was the best comeback that I have ever heard. Like to this day, I've not heard a comeback as funny as that. And I knew we were going to be friends. And uh

[1:59:01] the rest was history. Um whose effing bingo card had praise be to Allah replaces. Thank you for your attention to this matter. Yeah. [snorts] Yes. Good, good call. Uh, my real name is just Katon. I was at a bar in San Francisco after my friend's wedding when Trump beat Hillary. Lots of screaming and wailing. Good night to own a bar. Yeah, I bet. My brother was at UPEN. He was at law school, very liberal law school. And they were watching the results uh in like a a theater, you know, they

[1:59:32] had a big screen, you know, like a movie screening room, like probably a lecture hall that had like a pull down like projector screens, this big sort of amphitheater type room. And uh there was one MAGA kid like in basically the whole class. I mean, these are all libs um at Upupen. And so, you know, she's starting to lose. It's starting to look pretty obvious that she's not going to make it. And the room just goes dead silent. Like, nobody's

[2:00:02] saying a word. Everybody is just stunned and depressed and miserable. And so the MAGA kid gets up and he leaves the room. Half hour later, he comes back into a room that is just stone cold, silent. Can hear a pin drop in this [ __ ] room. And Magga Kid comes back in with a bottle of champagne and he pops it [laughter and gasps] as loud as he can in a dead silent room. The popping of

[2:00:34] the cork just echoes throughout the room and [laughter] he starts drinking the champagne in front of all of these traumatized libs. That's a scene. That's a scene. Uh oh, sorry. Got that one already. Um Brad Gilbert makes perfect sense when you were trying to reset your new digital currency. Clint Trump was always a WEF puppet. Everything was character development. Thank you for that. Sparky says Vance is likely waiting around to

[2:01:05] be forced to remove Trump so he becomes president. You may have asked Tulsi to not resign so it's easier for her to slide into VP. Uh well maybe maybe I mean look my op I my projection stands. The fact that there's even this kind of talk about 25th amendment now makes me feel like I'm on pretty good pace. I said by the end of the year there's going to be serious talk about him stepping down. You know, not just like a few ex accounts or whatever, but like serious speculation that he's going to

[2:01:37] have to step down. And, you know, we still got nine months to go in uh 2026. So, I I think my prediction is looking pretty damn good. Uh okay. Uh let's do some more segments. We got plenty of more super chats and Rumble rants. and we'll get to all that in due time, of course. Uh we also are going to a Q&A tonight uh after the show. So, plenty more stuff. So, everybody uh strap in

[2:02:10] and get ready. Got a lot more stuff uh to get to here. All right, everybody. So, uh, Trump is seeking to pay for his new $1.5 trillion military budget by cutting the following. So, yeah, it was news, you know, about a year ago he wanted to increase the military budget to 1.5 trillion. And everybody thought, well, for what? Ha. Well, jokes's on us now, is it not? Now we know for what?

[2:02:40] Uh, he wants to transition us to a war economy. That's right, a war economy. So, here are some of the cuts he's willing to make here uh as put together uh by this HQ news handle. Quite a few of them. Grants for farmers and agricultural research. Loans for rural small businesses fully eliminated. Support for farmers and food markets fully eliminated. School meals and food education for children abroad fully eliminated. 659 million community

[2:03:11] building grants blah blah blah. We go down the line here uh toward the end uh 150 million for cutting edge clean energy research. $4 billion at the end there helping paying home heating and cooling bills for lowincome families fully eliminated. Now of course that's not the last item on the list which we'll get to in a second but that is something that people are honing in on. Trump re-ups push to eliminate lowincome heating assistance program lie

[2:03:43] heap. President Trump is once again proposing to eliminate a program that helps lowincome people heat and cool their homes. The president's budget released Friday states that the low-income home energy assistance program should be cut. For the sixth time, the budget proposes to end this program, it said, adding that Trump's agenda should do enough to lower energy prices and make up the difference. Oh yeah, sure, sure. It's not like they're trying to like screw you out of your uh heating or

[2:04:13] anything. It's not that they don't care if you freeze to death or, you know, god forbid you got a lot of seniors living in these retirement communities in South Florida and, you know, uh the Phoenix, Arizona area. I mean, these could get to be, you know, 110 120 degree days. You can't have the cooling cut off. But, uh, this looks like it could be a potential problem here if he gets his way. Of course, Congress is unlikely to actually enact the cut as lie heap has significant bipartisan support, but the

[2:04:44] president's budget is an indicator of his administration's priorities. The Trump budget describes lie heap as unnecessary because states have policies preventing utility shut offs, making lie heap a pass through benefiting utility companies. So, this is actually the full list of cuts that Trump wants to make in order to accommodate his $1.5 trillion military budget. That's right. To get the whole list on the screen, I had to zoom out so far that you can't even read

[2:05:15] these things. So just uh just an extensive list of programs that are going to be cut, initiatives that are going to be discontinued uh in order to satisfy this proposed $1.5 trillion military budget. Now Gunther Eagleman responds to that list. This is a lie. [laughter] Of course, it's not a lie. Uh the community noted very quickly the assertion that this tweet meaning this the list of cuts to accommodate the $ one.5 trillion dollar defense budget or

[2:05:47] war budget I should say. You shouldn't be able to call it a defense budget if it's not called the department of defense anymore. If it's called the department of war then we should call the budget the war budget. It should no longer you we should no longer be allowed to call it the defense budget. It's the war budget. The assertion that this tweet is false is incorrect. The listed budget reductions are documented in the official FY2027 federal budget released by the White House, which details reallocations from domestic programs towards increased

[2:06:18] defense spending. Again, shouldn't call it defense spending if it's now not the Department of Defense anymore. If it's the Department of War, we should call it war spending. So, if this seems like a giant scam to you, you are not alone. I have called MAGA the biggest scam in modern political history. Hands down. Stand by that 100%. And now it seems like Tim Dylan has jumped on this bandwagon as well. Here he is calling the Trump administration the

[2:06:48] greatest scam in history >> about that there's not going to be any more daycare or Medicaid because of the war >> because the United States can't take care of daycare. That has to be up to a state. We can't take care of daycare. We're a big country. We have 50 states. We have all these other people. We're fighting wars. We can't take care of daycare. You got to let a state take care of daycare. And they should pay for it, too. They should

[2:07:18] pay. They have to raise their taxes. But they should pay for it. And we could lower our taxes a little bit to them to make up. But we It's not possible for us to take care of daycare, Medicaid, Medicare, all these individual things. They can do it on a state basis. You can't do it on a federal. We have to take >> It's the greatest con in history, by the way. It's the greatest con in history. I mean, truly, it's the greatest. It's the And I don't say great in like a good way. It is truly the the most successful con in history. It makes Enron look like

[2:07:50] a guy doing three card monty on the street. um anything that you can remember and identify as a complete and utter scam. Um this is the greatest con in history to run as an America first and you're going to take care of America and then turn around and go, you know, all of these things, daycare, Medicare, Medicaid, we have nothing to do with that. We're fighting wars. That's what we're here to do. We're here to have a defense budget of 1.5 trillion and we're here to fight wars. It is the greatest scam in history. You got to hand it to him. And I mean truly and not in you

[2:08:22] know again not in like a not in a moral way but like you got to hand it to him. Um this is the greatest about face in political history that I have really ever seen. >> Uh yeah you got to hand it to him. You gota more than you got to hand it to him. You really got to hand it to America because this is who we elevate in this country. You know, Trump is not an aberration in that sense. The businessman, quote

[2:08:54] unquote, the salesman, you know, the guy who smiles to your face and then knifes you in the back. You know, guy gives that big toothy smile when he shakes your hand and as soon as he gets you the grip on your hand, he shives you in the side with the other hand. You know, those are the people who we consider to be winners in this country. You know, we act like those guys are sleeves bags, but we don't treat them like that. We treat them the exact opposite way. All of us. All of us when we go to buy a car or a new phone or whatever, you know, I'll use the car dealership, you know, as an example. You know, the car dealer

[2:09:27] comes by, asks you about your life, about your family, your kids, as if as if he cares. He he doesn't care. We know he doesn't care, right? And he knows that. We know he doesn't care. Yeah. Yeah. He He cares about my family, the guy who's trying to sell me the car. He doesn't close the sale with us. We can wrap our van around the tree and die on the way home. He wouldn't care one bit. We know that. And he knows that. We know that. But still, we go through this ritual of being charmed and laughing and joking and haha. We know his job is to get as much out of us as he can. And he

[2:09:58] knows that we understand that. You know, it's like that scene in Fargo with the True Coat. You know, the uh dealer gives the guy True Coat for $500 even after customer said uh he didn't want it. YouTube was feeding me Fargo clips, so I bit because I love that movie. And so there's that great scene where, you know, he agrees 195. Okay, we agree 195. Then he comes and he hits him for another $500 for the true coat. The guy says, "What do you mean?" I said, "We I I thought uh we didn't go for the true code. I told you I didn't want it." He says, "Yeah, but you know the true coat

[2:10:28] that's done at the factory." He says, "Well, [ __ ] you." So then, of course, dealer goes to the back room to ask the the boss what we what what we could do about it. Of course, he goes to the boss's room and the boss, you know, they just make some kind of small talk. What are you doing this weekend? Blah blah blah. Doesn't ask the boss anything. Comes back to the customer. He says, "Got some great news. Um, I can knock a $100 off that car for you." And the customer just eats it because, hey, by that time, he's all in on the car. He's already bought the car. He's not going

[2:10:59] to back out of the deal on the car. And so, he just takes it. Fine. He says, "You're a [ __ ] liar." Right? But so what? the guy got you for the extra $400. And in America, we look up to the people who could do that the best. I mean, Donald Trump before he ran for president literally played a fake boss on TV whose catchphrase was, "You're fired." So, we watch this rich [ __ ] sit in a tacky, you know, pretend TV throne and bully pretend workers around until

[2:11:29] he fires them. That's what passes for entertainment in America. So if that's what passes for entertainment in America, is it really a big surprise that America would be scammed in this way? Not only would America allow themselves to be scammed in this way, but when you walk around the country or you drive around the country or drive around town and you wonder as many people have, hey, why aren't there more protests in the streets about the war, about the genocide, even about gas prices? Like where's all the protests? How is it that as a Trump voter, every

[2:12:00] time you drive past the gas station and you see these prices up in lights, you don't feel like the world's biggest sucker? And the answer is because you're not the world's biggest sucker in a it's it's a country full of the world's biggest suckers. Suckers and scammers. That's who lives in America. Suckers and scammers. It's scam or be scammed. And um you know, none of that is really going to change. I don't think it's not going to change unless there is uh a revolution of consciousness in this

[2:12:33] country until people start realizing that they must not worship sags, businessmen, salesmen, right? because it it it is that sort of just like blind uh uh acceptance of a certain dynamic that the second you step out the door, you are going to have your ass spread open and someone's going to [ __ ] you till you bleed out. And and that is essentially what is happening to America

[2:13:05] right now. Donald Trump wiggled his way into a second term. He's not running for anything anymore. There's no reason to give a [ __ ] what you think about him anymore. So, as soon as he gets in, that's it. Spreads you open, [ __ ] you, and now we're bleeding out. That's what's happening to this country. And um, you know, I don't even know how reparable it is. You know, I think it's kind of the the DNA of this country and it will remain sort of fundamentally unaltered. I think sometimes a thing kind of is what it is. You know, this

[2:13:38] country was founded by a kind of a bizarre group of people. They were elite colonizers who themselves were also colonized from an ocean away. And they eventually figured, hey, you know, why kick up when we could just keep the whole loot for ourselves? And so they led a revolution against the British and they formed America as we know it. And what did they do? They they created a system that protected their wealth from their own peasant underclass. And as we expanded our territory out onto the frontier, we kind of learned the virtues of rugged individualism, right? life on

[2:14:10] the frontier and it became ingrained in us and at this point that is kind of the American DNA. It's kind of just who we are. You know, maybe not everything is changeable. I don't know. I don't know. Um it's worth a shot, I guess, as long as we're here. Uh but I know it's no surprise that a system built on greed and gamesmanship and deceit uh produced the ultimate con man, supreme leader in Donald Trump. I'd be very surprised if it didn't. I'd be very

[2:14:41] surprised if it didn't. So, when Tim Dylan says this is the greatest scam in history, he's right. He's right. Trump is really the end result of a country that is just obsessed with all the wrong things. Prioritizes is too weak a word. We're obsessed with all the wrong things. We value all the wrong things to the exclusion of all of the right things. give you an example. As [snorts] long as I'm here by myself, I can go on these tangents without cutting into uh Russ's time. So,

[2:15:14] my dishwasher broke. I'm at an apartment complex. My dishwasher broke. Second dishwasher that broke. The dishwashers are garbage that they that they give you here. Wasn't taking on any water. So, it broke. So, I had to wash my dishes by hand, which when you have three kids, you you you really use the dishwasher a lot. You don't wash the dishes by hand very often. So, one of the only times I washed the dishes by hand in this apartment. So, I had, you know, when you're washing dishes, I had uh, you know, about a sink about 2/3 of the way full with water.

[2:15:47] And, um, apparently [snorts] that was too much for the sink to handle. Uh, I noticed the rim of the sink had become unglued, I guess, under the weight of the water. I said, "What the [ __ ] is that?" Two seconds later, the sink bottoms out. Literally, the sink just boom, falls [clears throat] out. the drum. Water everywhere. We're in the upstairs apartment, right? Six or seven gallons of water. Maybe not that much. I don't know how much the sink holds, but a lot of water dripping out onto the floor. It's the part where I know it's going to leak through my neighbor's ceiling. So, I run down to first of all,

[2:16:18] I sop as much of it up with a towel as I can. Um, you know, minimize the damage as much as I can, but I know there's going to be water coming through my neighbor's ceiling. So, I run downstairs. Turns out my neighbor's, you know, outside. Do we have water? I said, I know. My sink fell out. I was washing my dishes and my sink just collapsed. So, it's after hours. It's Friday night, right? The management is not at the complex. So, I call because I had a maintenance emergency once a couple years ago. And I know that if you call after hours, you go to an operator and

[2:16:49] they put you through to the emergency maintenance person. Well, this time I call the emergency maintenance and I get a virtual assistant. I get AI, an AI operator who's like, "Hello. Uh, what is your problem?" I said, "My sink fell out." She says, "I'm sorry to hear that your sink fell out. Is there active flooding?" I said, "Yes." She says, "You should call 911 if it's an emergency. If not, you know, what would you like me to do?" So, I I said, "Put me I need to

[2:17:19] talk to a person." Couldn't get through to a person. She says, "We'll contact the emergency on call." uh the emergency on call maintenance guy. I didn't trust that. I had to Google the number for the actual human operator and then they put me through to an actual maintenance guy and the rest of the story is even [ __ ] crazier. But I don't want to tell it uh yet cuz I don't want to get anybody in trouble in case it is uh discerned uh who who that person is. Uh but anyway, I didn't get my sink fixed

[2:17:49] until the next day. But anyway, the point is you got a companies switching to AI knowing that they're screwing the customers. Like the the assumption is when you replace a human with a robot in that capacity, i.e. emergency after hours maintenance uh matters. You know that your tenant is going to be less satisfied with that service than if you had a person there. They don't [ __ ] care. They don't [ __ ] care. They know they're

[2:18:22] providing you with worse service. They know you know that. They know you know why they're doing it because it's cheaper. It's all that matters in this country is how management saves money and keeps more for themselves. That's that's the only thing that matters in this country. And so you ask yourself, how do you walk around in a country just so hypnotized by all this propaganda? A country just

[2:18:53] sleepwalking into its own grave. Well, that's how and that's how you have a country that falls for this MAGA scam, which he's absolutely right. I mean, it it is it is the the ultimate scam. This is the ultimate con. It's >> what we're here to do. We're here to have a defense budget of 1.5 trillion and we're here to fight wars. >> It is the greatest scam in history. You got to hand it to him. And I mean truly, and not in, you know, again, not in like a not in a moral way, but like you got

[2:19:23] to hand it to him. Um, this is the greatest about face in political history that I have really ever seen. >> 100%. When I was a tour guide, I had this lovely old couple from South Carolina. They're wonderful people, you know, not bad people. And Trump was running in 2016, and he's like, you know, I think he could be a good president cuz he has the money. He has the money. Like, what do you So, what what the [ __ ] does that have to do with anything? He has the money. That means

[2:19:53] he'd be a good president because he has the money. Well, yes. In a country that values money, accumulation of wealth to the extent that we do, the amount of money you have in a lot of people's eyes is equal to your virtue as a person. Because the assumption is if you made a bunch of money, you must be really smart. And not just smart, but good. Good. Wealth is a substitute for virtue in the

[2:20:25] American system. And that's how people can be conned into this. And to go back to that car salesman analogy in Fargo, he knows once the guy bit for the car, he can [ __ ] him for the extra $500 on the true coat that that he said he didn't want. Of course he can. The guy's already in. Trump he's in. You elected his second term. He's a lame duck. You don't need your vote anymore. Of course, the salesman is going to put the final [ __ ] in your ass when you can't do anything about it. And like every good

[2:20:57] salesman, like every good con man, he waited until you couldn't do [ __ ] about it to start a war with Iran. He didn't do that in his first term because he still needed your vote in his first term. He didn't campaign on that for a second term because he needed your vote to get a second term. Now he doesn't need anything from you anymore. And so now is when now is when the ultimate con reveals itself. Once you are powerless against it, now he gives you that $500 true coat that you said you didn't want

[2:21:27] that he knows you don't want. Gives it to you anyway because he can. Nothing you can do about it at this point. And that's how that goes. Now, for what it's worth, here is Will Rollins uh pointing out how ironic it is that the No New Wars president has started a new war. Ironic, isn't it? >> Something similar. >> Yeah, 100%. I have buddies who voted for him and to be honest, it surprises me and I find it ironic that the no new

[2:21:58] wars president has started a new war and he's walked away from some of his biggest political advantages that he had when he won in 2024, like the economy. And when you propose a $1.5 trillion defense budget and you have your base starting to perceive you as part of the regular establishment in Washington DC, you take away that advantage of being the outsider candidate. And so I think Democrats are probably going to be able to capitalize in November on that. >> Of course, >> it's interesting that he mentions the outsider candidate because, you know, uh

[2:22:30] not only has this really tarnished the Republican brand, but it has really tarnished the outsider brand. people are going to be much more skeptical of outsider candidates now because they're going to be uh you know they're going to have the memory of uh Donald Trump fresh in their mind. Last time an outsider came along promising to change things. What do we get? This right? This kind of makes all outsiders uh feel like snake oil salesmen even though many of whom don't deserve to be

[2:23:01] uh cast in that light. uh that this is setting a not so good precedent uh for so-called outsiders. And so the legacy of this is just unbelievably destructive. But this is a moment that the country really uh walked into and um we walked into it because of a lot of priorities that this society has had all wrong uh for for too long.

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[2:25:36] so they can eliminate the masses then emerge like maggots and rule over our ashes. Thank you for that, Christopher Back. Thanks for the $5. Katon, shameful performance. What a weakling. Sanewashing Trump. Perhaps we should call you Jake Tapper. I sanewashed Trump. I called him a madman. What do you mean I sanewashed him? How did I sane Donald Trump? I think we called him an unhinged madman. Is that a joke or is that a complaint? Uh, fun fact, I don't think I'm guilty of sanewashing Donald Trump, though. We'll take a poll in the

[2:26:07] audience. I think I think you're in the minority if that is your sincere opinion. Uh Tim Pool's blown Netanyahu for so long he [snorts] could start a leaf blower. Thank you, Sparky. Appreciate that. Stoop sign. Hey, Trump isn't allowed at bridge day. Bridge day rules are as follows. The bid opening three, no Trump as the first bidder. What it shows? A long solid minor suit. Operative words, no Trump. Adore Jimmy says, "Rest in peace, Sha de Masta." Absolutely. Absolutely. Thank you for

[2:26:39] that. Vienticus Prime, just smack a small pot with something like a ladle, Katon. It should work well enough. Lol. Thank you, Vienticus. Oh, yeah. And since Russ isn't here, how do you stop an octopus with 10 tickles? Ha. Good one. Good one. Yeah, I bought my uh I bought my kid a a joke book um because he's getting into telling jokes. There was one in there that was pretty good actually. That wasn't a dad joke, but it was good. What was it? I forget what it

[2:27:09] was. Uh maybe it'll pop back into my head. That's the thing. When something falls out of your mind and you're on by yourself, you just have to let go and keep going. You can't dwell because that creates dead space. If I forget what I'm saying and Russ is here, I can have Russ read them. Read them and then I'll think of it. But we're without a net here tonight for the rest of the way. It's just me. Katon, do a Star Wars segment just for laughs. Ha, good one. Remember when Biden was president and there would be like, you know, five horrible stories

[2:27:39] a week that you had to do and so you had time to like do a pop culture segment every now and then. Not now. Not now. That's the thing about Trump. He, you know, with with with Trump now, we have like 30 horrible stories a week. We can't keep up with all of them. So, there's no way to do any of those. There's no way to squeeze any of that other stuff in. Uh, scary times. Virtuoso. That Trump post was to pay homage to his friend Mike Tyson, who went on a post-fight rant about his eventual opponent, Lennox Lewis, saying he wants to eat his heart and his children and then cap it off with praise

[2:28:12] be to Allah. Is that right? Wow. That is that true? I don't even know. I don't even know if you're joking, Virtue. So, um, but yeah, that would uh that would be quite the quite the tribute that people may have missed. Um, Katon, you need a headbanging bobblehead. Ah, I like that idea. I like that idea. Thank you, Abu Kid. I really like that. But, uh, for Russ's hiatus. Yes. Bet you could find one online or maybe even make one in AI for the 666.

[2:28:42] No. No. I'm going to get a physical one. No, I need that. I need a physical uh headbanging bobblehead. I need a prayer bowl. And I need a bell. Uh, yeah. I'm I I'm going to be like a Looney Tunes character here sitting here with all this [ __ ] bells and bowls and papers and everything. But yes, no, that is a good suggestion. I like it. Thank you. That that is using your brain. Uh heavy snack. Jimmy encouraged defense of Joe Rogan was so cringe I had to turn it

[2:29:13] off. I won't let it ruin Jimmy for me, but yikes. I mean, look, they're friends, you know. We're going to talk about uh we're going to talk about Rogan and Theo Vaughn actually next. I got that's that's my last segment. But, uh, hey, look, you know, they're friends with the guy, you know. I'm sure he's a nice guy. I'm sure he treats his friends, you know, well, you know, um, you know, comics, it's hard for comics to be treated well. You know, artists, whether you're a musician or a comic or anything, you know, it's hard to find

[2:29:44] people who like treat you well. You know, a lot of artists are always exploited. So, to have like friends who treat you well, like, I get it. It's fine. Um, it's all good. They know what we think and uh you know we know what they think and it's fine. Uh Sedard Vicious Katon the tree says now I take my leaves. Ah now I take my leaves. Good one. All right. See? Good. I hope Russ is watching. I hope Russ I wish I remembered that joke. It was a good joke.

[2:30:14] What is the joke? Oh well this. All right. So this is one. See, my kid didn't get this because he didn't know the previous joke, but it's um Why did the gum cross the road? Cuz it was stuck to the chicken's feet. Boom. Boom. Uh Jake, you could you can kill the scroll now if you're there. Uh thank you. We're on the third scroll there. I want to give them more than their money's worth. Um why did the gum gu as in Mary cross the road? Because it was stuck to the chicken's feet.

[2:30:45] Um, that wasn't the best one. No, there was another one was better, but that was not bad. [laughter] Thank you for showing Chanda some love. Of course, she hosted the Trailer Park Pundit channel, co-hosted by beauty, co-hosted Beauty and the Boomer every Saturday night with years with Osave. Such an inspirational and optimistic voice. Yes, very sweet person. Very, very sweet person. Uh, one of the many, one of the countless injustices uh that the world has thrown us. um in recent times is that uh someone someone as kind

[2:31:17] as Shondaanda was was taken as young as she was. It's a it's very very sad. It's very very sad. But like I said, she seemed to be as far as I know and I don't know much. I mean, I spoke to her a couple times in my life, including, you know, pasta put me through to her. Um she seemed in in good fighting spirits uh until the end, as far as I could see. Um, Mayal Shamsy, any news about Pure Batista Pizza? I don't actually care. I just like hearing his name being said.

[2:31:48] Very musical. It is. That's the best name ever. Yeah. No, I did give it um somebody super chatted about him earlier. Um, yeah, apparently they did have the Easter Mass, but it was for a very limited uh audience. They didn't have the full service there, but apparently they did go through with it. Peter Jackson, it's not Israel controlling the US or vice versa. There's a secret cabal that runs both. The USIsrael debate serves to obscure this secret cabal.

[2:32:18] Um I mean, yeah, that could be too. That could be too. It could all be bluepilled, you know. Um in that sense, definitely open to that possibility. Um you know me, Matt Brady, supporting the concept of a wealth cap is now called libertarianism, the opposite of libertarianism. Thank you. Flamma Blam Blam Blam. Hell yeah, buddy. Have you been reading Rudolph Rocker, Burkeman, Goldman, The OG's, Zapatistas, and the News Wave stuff? Which anarchist book would you

[2:32:50] recommend? I haven't read any of that [ __ ] I mean, I'm still a father of three. I don't really have time to read that much. There's only so, you know, there there's only so much I can read, which mean there's talk about libertarianism. There's a limit as to how smart I can be with three kids and how well read I could be. Uh, but I will look into some stuff and uh recommend what I can but takes time. Takes time. Uh, but thank you for that. Raven Laz RFK Jr. I Easter this freaky chick. I hid six eggs around her house for me to

[2:33:20] find. I found the first five. Guess where the last one was? She knew me well. That was a goose who ate a golden egg. I almost did this story. Thank you, Raven. L I almost did a story. It was uh some study that showed that uh pig semen has like cancer fighting qualities. It was a real story. Some study that was done that showed that you know pig [ __ ] can be used to fight cancer. And I almost did the story just to

[2:33:52] make that crack where after you read the headline pig semen found to have anti-cancer qualities. I was going to say, "I'm not one to say I told you so, but I told you so." That would have made the whole segment, but it would have been a very short segment because that's the only reason I was tempted to do it. Um, but that didn't make the cut. So, Z Corman's Liberty Lockdown in the house, libertarian who lovingly tunes into the due dissonance commies from time to time. Thanks for having Clint on,

[2:34:22] fellas. Thank you. See, this is why I like the libertarians. See, they're nice. Nice. See, the the the left can learn something from this super chat. Okay, you don't have to be miserable. See, you you can be nice. You can be nice. See, I like that. Thank you, Z Corbins. See, they know how to they know how to build a movement. See, they're they're nice to people. That that's that's very important. Uh Peter Monahan Keaton, check your email. Our president using that language. How far we've fallen from the very lowest branch. 25th

[2:34:54] is my nuclear option. Can't stand him. Thank you, Peter. Appreciate that. Uh, Furrow Screen says, "Guess which parent listens to me." I say, "Russell's in China." So, Katon's on his own for a bit. My mom seems interested. My dad says, "Who's that? I thought it was your podcast." My mom says, "Hi, thank you, Fear Squeeed, for that update. Appreciate that." V. Nettles bound says, "Hey, I like new Russell. Please have him back on. Now we just

[2:35:25] have to find someone with the first name Dobular. Ha, good one. Uh, yeah, Clint was great. Here's one for your boy. What did the banana say to the orange? Hey, orange. Love from Florida. Yeah, he would like that. He would like that. I'll tell him that one. I'll tell him that one. Um, Alex Dos Lee, thanks for the 499. Thank you for your inattention to the file. should be DJT's signature on his troential fetches. Yes, exactly. Vienticus, there

[2:35:57] was just a huge $75 million lawsuit getting refunds for car buyers in Michigan. All from one auto group. Oh, wow. Thank you for that. Uh, Stoop Sign, I was the best men'swear salesman in history because I didn't respect my own company. To make my commission, I gave [ __ ] away for free so my company would lose money. Company went bankrupt. Check paid. [snorts] Thank you for that. Uh, Vienticus says, "Say it, Keat, and say it with conviction. Scream it out your window if you have to. Everything's a scam. Everything's a lie. Everything's hypocrisy, and so we don't comply."

[2:36:28] Thank you, Eio. Shush. You've had libertarian economic policies since Reagan. You can't push libertarians policies on a public unless you mass them via culture wars. And libertarian policies don't work unless you wage a war for resources. Yeah. No, I mean, look, I'm not I'm not a libertarian. Um, for sure. I think there are a lot of unworkable things about it from from what I could tell. End of empire, you say. Hold my beer. The collective USA. Username. End of the empire, you say. Oh, sorry, got that one. That one was a

[2:37:00] double. Peter Jackson, Zalinsky, Trump both had TV shows. Pre-planned ops. Yeah, both entertainers. Han Jh J Han J. Is that what it is? To quote another great movie, speaking of Fargo, "If the rule you followed led you to this, of what use was the rule?" Yes, another Coleman Brothers, no country for old men. It fed me that too, I guess, cuz it was another Coleman Brothers movie. I watched that scene recently as

[2:37:30] well. That's the scene with the wife at the end. Uh, masterpiece. Absolute masterpiece film. It was a perfect film. Absolutely perfect. From the first frame to the last, there is literally not a single thing about No Country for All Men that I would change at all. Perfect. From the first frame to the last, this evening's broadcast of due dissidence will be replaced with the Keat and Wise Black Build Variety Hour. May God have mercy on you scum sucking sleeves worshiping soul Americans. [laughter] Love it. You're the best. Thank you [gasps] people infinite. Appreciate that

[2:38:02] very much. I'm sorry Katon. I can't do that. Says Danny. Danny. Thank you Danny. Danny, appreciate that. Uh, Vienticus says, "We should probably start referring to a president's first and second terms as buying favor term and war term, respectively." Uh, yeah. Yeah, not a bad idea. Not a bad idea. Um, I think the Dems says, uh, Mike Necron Fence, sorry if I mispronounced that there. Uh, I think the Dems and the mainstream left deserve a lot of the

[2:38:33] blame for making this MAGA scam viable in the first place. I agree. No argument there, my friend. Appreciate that. All right. Uh we will take the rest of these uh in due time. Jake, can you just do me a small favor and clear out those that I've already read so that I'm up to date uh on the last one. Thanks very much uh for that. So folks, we spent a lot of time here talking about the hopelessness of the system and

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[2:41:07] here. We got one more segment uh here on the evening that we're going to get to. Let me see what we got over here. All right, beautiful. All right, so Theo Vaughn went on the Joe Rogan podcast and things got pretty real here. This is about 40 minutes into the episode. I did watch, you know, a decent chunk of it, not the whole thing. It was like 2 hours and 40 minutes long. Um but uh here is uh Theo Vaughn uh basically uh calling

[2:41:37] uh Israel terrorists >> think is going to happen? You think we're going to be okay? >> I hope so. Of course. I don't know. >> Do you think about it? >> I'm confused. I can't believe we went to this war. I when we started bombing Iran, I was like there can't this can't be true. >> And what about Lebanon now? >> I know Israel's invaded Lebanon. Yeah. >> Yeah. >> And it's like just [ __ ] stop it. What do you need? >> Well, they're trying to supposedly they're trying to stop the terrorists. >> That's [laughter] crazy though. Stop the terrorists. What is it? 2002. Would you

[2:42:10] fall asleep for fall asleep for 20 years? They're trying to stop the terrorist. Well, well, here here he gets gets the gets an answer for that. >> That's [laughter] crazy though. If you're the [ __ ] terrorist, [laughter] >> you know what I'm saying? Like if you want to stop them, [ __ ] stand in front of the [ __ ] mirror >> and start there. >> Yeah. Yeah. To me, the thing that hit hard is I brought this up to Clint Russell was the beginning here. >> What do you think is going to happen? You think we're going to be okay?

[2:42:41] >> I hope so. Of course. I don't know. >> Do you think you think we're going to be okay? You know, that resonates that resonates with people. It resonates with me. And you know, look, as I mentioned with Clint on the air a couple hours ago, different clip, obviously we're clipping this separately, but you know, I think one of the things that uh really has given me a lot of perspective, um, as someone of, you know, relative privilege. I did not grow up rich. I grew up middle class. I grew up a white

[2:43:13] middle class suburban kid. And when you start asking yourself, hey, are we actually going to make it here? like this is not like this is not at arms length anymore. This is like hitting home. You know, puts a lot in perspective. People around the world probably ask themselves that question every day. Palestinians, Venezuelans, Cubans, Cambodians, where Russ just was. Even people in America, poor people, people of racial minorities in America,

[2:43:44] they probably ask themselves that on such a consistent basis that they don't even consciously ask themselves that anymore, right? That that is just that is just part of day-today life in the back of your mind. That question is just kind of running on a loop on autopilot to the point where it may not even be conscious anymore. Um, are we going to be okay? You know, the way I think of it is, um, you know, with little kids now who are animal lovers,

[2:44:15] we watch some like nature documentaries and, um, we watch this documentary about these lions and it's it's funny, you know, you you you look at a lion in the wild. Lions like just like chilling out. They're like reclined. They're rolling around. They're sleeping. and they're rubbing their eyes. They are just not a care in the world because they're the top of the food chain. You look at every other animal in a nature documentary and they're what's here, what's there, what's there.

[2:44:46] They're always on high alert because something's going to get them because they're not top of the food chain. They're not the lion. And I think Americans, broadly speaking, and like I said, there are gradations within America, levels of privilege within the empire, of course. Um, but generally speaking, broadly speaking, Americans are used to being that lion, right? We're used to just being sprawled out in the grass, just soaking it in, knowing nothing's coming for us. And now we're starting to feel, you know, more like the antelope, more like

[2:45:17] the Whoa. What's going on? What's going on? Are we going to make it? Um, so I think that that question there, are we going to be okay? I think that I think that cut pretty deep. >> What do you think is going to happen? You think we're going to be okay? >> I hope so. Of course. I don't know. >> Do you think about it? >> I'm confused. I can't believe we went to this war. I When we started bombing Iran, I was like, there can't this can't be true. >> And what about Lebanon now? >> I know. Israel's invaded Lebanon. Yeah. >> Yeah. >> And it's like, just [ __ ] stop it. What do you need? Well, they're trying

[2:45:47] to supposedly they're trying to stop the terrorists. [laughter] >> That's crazy though if you're the [ __ ] terrorist. >> That's right. That's right. That's crazy when you're the [ __ ] terrorist. Um, so this is where it gets a little awkward. This is where it gets a little awkward because uh Theo goes off on one of his more redpilled rants and Rogan kind of pulls him back a little bit. Uh telling him that he's got to come off his medication because he's losing his mind a little bit.

[2:46:19] >> Cat and mouse game. People are like, "We'll elect the Democrats next time." It's like, but it's all the same [ __ ] has been happening forever. They haven't been helping anybody forever. They're letting [ __ ] politicians slurp on kids. All of our [ __ ] money goes to Israel and they're using it to [ __ ] genocide people. It's like everybody is scared out of their wits right now. It's like our religious leaders are afraid to speak out and it's like the it's a time where it's like Satan is amongst us and our religious leaders are [ __ ] talking about [ __ ] at the pole. It's just like what is going I don't know man. >> We got to get you updepressent

[2:46:49] [clears throat] son. You're losing your [ __ ] marbles. >> You think I am? >> Come hang out with us. Just chill out. >> I'm here. [laughter] >> So he's on a tear there that he says, "Whoa, whoa, whoa. You're on your See, okay. We'll we'll get into this a little bit more, but let me just play it one more time. >> It's all just a cat and mouse game. People are like, "We'll elect the Democrats next time." It's like, >> but it's all the same [ __ ] has been happening forever. They haven't been helping anybody forever. They're letting [ __ ] politicians slurp on kids. All of our [ __ ] money goes to Israel and they're using it to [ __ ] genocide

[2:47:20] people. It's like everybody is scared out of their wits right now. It's like our religious leaders are afraid to speak out and it's like the it's a time where it's like Satan is amongst us and our religious leaders are [ __ ] talking about [ __ ] at the pole. It's just like what is going I don't know man. >> We got to get you off those anti-depressants son. You're losing your [ __ ] marbles. >> You think I am? >> Come hang out with us. Just chill out. >> I'm here. >> All right. As as Theo clarifies and we'll get into this a little later. You know he's joking when he says we have to get you off the anti-depressants. They had been talking about anti-depressants earlier in the podcast. That's all true.

[2:47:52] But it is ironic though that like of all the crazy [ __ ] that gets talked about on the Joe Rogan show, like the most kind of like clearheaded redpilled like distillation of what is plaguing the world right now is the one that gets the response, hey man, you're all right. You losing your marbles a little bit. Like no, that that was clarity that Theo was expressing there. Like that was an epiphany moment. that that was peak sanity, I think. Now,

[2:48:23] Autism Capital, this is this account has been on a journey because the they used to be the biggest chuds you'd see on X, both for Elon and for uh MAGA and looks like they really turned on uh Trump over over Epstein. I don't follow them particularly closely, but that's when I noticed a sharp change in their commentary. Uh, if you watch the full Joe Rogan and Theo Vaughn podcast from today, you can cut the tension with a knife. Theo will say something left

[2:48:55] coded and Joe will immediately take the opposite end of the stance and challenge him over and over until Theo basically says, "What are you doing?" Sit and watch that part. Joe has a tendency to do this from time to time. For some reason, he randomly some episodes decides this is going to be the one where he's super combative and doesn't let people just flow with the combo and challenges way too much and the guest can't get into a groove or cook. [cough] Excuse me. It sort of makes sense why he stops and challenges Theo on everything

[2:49:26] right now because Theo jumps into discussions about Israel, Trump, Luigi, etc. uh like every hot topic controversial issue and Joe wants to make sure the heat doesn't blow back to him or his advertisers. All right, so this is kind of uh interesting here. Uh before we get into the full context, Theo Von says people are taking stuff out of context and that's not fair. Joe and I were having uh a convo about getting off anti-depressants prior to

[2:49:56] this prior and this a this is after that. Joe has been supportive on and off, Mike, about my well-being, like any friend would, and I'm grateful. Thanks, Joe Rogan, for having me. So, yeah, like I said, like I didn't take that literally. I took it as just kind of this kind of ironic thing that uh, you know, when he expresses such moral and political clarity is when you decide to rein him in and suggest that uh he's gone off the rails. He didn't mean it literally, of course, but this is kind of interesting.

[2:50:28] So this this is kind of when you look at what led directly in to that previous rant here which starts here >> mouse game. People were like we'll look at the Democrats next time. It's like but it's all the same [ __ ] has been happening when you look at what came before that. It's kind of interesting. They were talking about and oddly enough it's Rogan who brings up to Theo Vaughn what a a murderous madman Christopher Columbus was. and they start talking about colonization and conquest and

[2:51:00] genocide and that kind of flows into Theo's rant there when Joe kind of pulls him back. So, let's take a look at this. >> Off that [ __ ] bro. He was off that [ __ ] for sure. >> Chris Co was off that [ __ ] bro. That is a great line. >> Chris Co was off that [ __ ] bro. He was off that [ __ ] bro. >> Chris Co was off that [ __ ] bro. So, yeah. So, that that's talking about Christopher Columbus. Ah, should write a history book. Chris Co was off that [ __ ] bro. That's a great title. That's a great title for a book. That should be a book. No doubt

[2:51:31] about it. That's amazing. Chris Co was off that [ __ ] bro. All right. So, they get talking about Chris Co being off that [ __ ] bro. And then and then Rogan actually Rogan must have read at least some of this book, People's History, or had or had somebody explain it to him because uh anybody who's read this book knows it's most famous, I would say, for the first chapter, uh where the brutality of the European uh explorers uh is laid out in extraordinarily uh disturbing and

[2:52:02] upsetting uh detail. And Rogan references some of that uh here uh regarding Chris Co being off that [ __ ] bro. >> That [ __ ] bro. He was off that [ __ ] >> Did you ever read the things that Christopher Columbus did when they came to America? >> He was a boss. I heard >> he was an evil man, was he? >> Oh my god. They would cut people's arms off if they didn't bring them the right amount of gold. >> They were killing babies. Like they did some horri >> That's right in this book. That's right in people's history. One of the things I

[2:52:33] remember when I read this book for jumping out at me that yeah, they would uh they would make the people uh bring them a certain amount of gold. And I forget exactly what they would do. They would they would award them with something if they brought in enough gold that they would like wear on their person. And if you didn't have this on your person, it meant you weren't bringing them enough gold and yeah, they'd hack your arm off. Really like horrifying [ __ ] horrifying [ __ ] If you haven't read this, it's obviously a a

[2:53:05] must readad. That's why my copy is as beat up as it is because with my ADHD, it takes me so long to read a book like this from cover to cover that by the time I do, it's torn to shreds. But yep, that's all in here. >> [ __ ] man. >> Huh? They did horrific [ __ ] to the people that they found because they found these people had gold. And you know they like if you think about how crazy it is that Mexico speaks Spanish. You know how [snorts] crazy that is? >> You know how crazy it is? That's so far

[2:53:35] away from Spain. >> Oh, that's a good point. >> They all speak Spanish and they're Catholic. >> He says, "Oh, that's a good point." It is a good point. It is a good point. Not something you think of immediately, but yeah, it is. >> You know how crazy it is? That's so far away from Spain. >> Oh, that's a good point. >> They all speak Spanish and they're Catholic. Gee, where do you think that happened? >> Cortez. >> Yeah, cool. >> That [ __ ] showed up in the 1500s with like 600 dudes and 12 musketss. They had like 12 They didn't even have musket rifles. They had musket pistols.

[2:54:05] >> He was a boss. >> And they took over the whole [ __ ] country. >> I know, dude. >> Kind of crazy. Like, if you think about all these years later, they all speak Spanish now. >> Yeah. That's nuts. >> Well, do you think we could do something like that now? Like, what do you think's going to happen? Ron, >> no. Just with I mean, like, I feel like the [ __ ] that's happening out there is going to come here eventually. >> Well, it most certainly will. >> I think the [ __ ] that's happening out there is going to come here eventually. And then Rogan says, "It most certainly will." And then look, look where he goes. >> Yeah,

[2:54:36] >> that's nuts. >> Well, do you think we could do something like that now? Like, what do you think's going to happen with Ron? >> No, just with that. I mean, like I feel like the [ __ ] that's happening out there is going to come here eventually. >> Well, it most certainly will. Yeah. >> You know, >> I mean, if [clears throat] uh Homeland Security doesn't stop it tracks and they're doing a great job of [laughter] >> if Homeland Security doesn't stop it in its tracks and they're doing a great job. No, no, no. That's not what That's not what Theo was talking about when he says, "I fear what they're doing there.

[2:55:07] They're going to do here." Don't forget right leading into that was talk of the horrors of colonization and genocide and ethnic cleansing. At one point uh Theo does bring up Palanteer in this uh podcast and educates Joe about Palunteer's role in Gaza. So So when Theo says what they're doing there they're going to do here. He and then Joe says well thankfully Homeland Security is stopping it. No,

[2:55:38] no. That That's not where he was going. That's not where he's going. He's He's definitely misdirecting that. >> Now, yeah, that's nuts. >> Well, do you think we could do something like that now? Like, what do you think's going to happen? >> No, just with I mean, like I feel like the [ __ ] that's happening out there is going to come here eventually. >> Well, it most certainly will. >> Yeah. You know, >> I mean, if uh Homeland Security doesn't stop it >> in its tracks, and they're doing a great job of preventing a lot of them, >> there's a lot of things that they catch

[2:56:08] that you don't even hear about. >> Terror cells they infiltrate. >> Oh, yeah. Big Brother is protecting you. It's all for your benefit. It's all for your safety. That's right. That's right. >> They know there's people in this country. That was the most [ __ ] up thing about people being all nonchalant about the border being wide open for 4 years. >> You don't have to say non shaalon with a French accent. You could just say nonchalant. It's like an American word in that way. But uh here he goes now with the border stuff.

[2:56:38] >> You don't even hear about that are like terror cells they infiltrate and but they know there's people in this country. That was the most [ __ ] up thing about people being all nonchalant about the border being wide open for four years. Yeah. >> Because men of military age entered into this country from foreign countries. >> What does that mean? 19 year olds. What do you mean men of military age? Men? Yeah. Some some men came in, some were young, some were older, some were what? Teenagers. So what? Military age? Again,

[2:57:10] this is just this is not what he's talking about. >> We have no idea why. We don't know if they're just honest people looking to make a better life for them and their family, send money back home. That'd be best case scenario. But that's not all of them. So what percentage of them are terrorists? What percentage of them? There's not it's not zero. Just a total nonssequarter. It's just just totally not what he was talking about when he said they're going to bring here what they're doing there. What he's talking about, what Theo was clearly talking about was surveillance,

[2:57:42] brutalization of people, colonization. Look what Look what America is doing to Cuba. We We're putting them under siege just like the Israelis put Gaza under siege after October 7th. Look at Palunteer's role in policing from the sky Gaza. Look at the role of AI in targeting suspects quote unquote.

[2:58:17] That's all coming here. Palanteer is given this massive contract. That's what Theo was talking about. Not talking about military age men crossing the border and thank God for homeland security because they're stopping them. That's just a a complete, dare I say, deliberate misinterpretation of what he's saying and misdirection of the conversation away from what actually may uh come across as a cogent critique of colonization and surveillance and and

[2:58:48] genocide. >> It ain't zero. Yeah. But what also it's like it's all just a cat and mouse game. People are like, "We'll elect the Democrats next time." It's like, >> but it's all the same [ __ ] has been happening forever. They haven't been [clears throat] helping anybody forever. They're letting [ __ ] politicians slurp on kids. All of our [ __ ] money goes to Israel and they're using it to [ __ ] genocide people. It's like everybody is scared out of their wits right now. It's like our religious leaders are afraid to speak out and it's like the it's a time where it's like Satan is amongst us and our religious

[2:59:18] leaders are [ __ ] talking about [ __ ] at the pole. It's just like what is going I don't know man. >> We got to get you off those depression now. We got to get off. Come hang out with us. Just chill out here. >> Just chill out at the mothership tonight. >> I do have to pee in a little while. But >> you can pee. >> I'm going to pee in a minute, man. >> We'll let you. >> But no, people are just scared, dude. This is [ __ ] that I can >> They won't let you pee until you give them your guns. >> Really? That's how they're doing it now. >> But what if you have to wash the black face off the president? Can you [ __ ] use a little bit of piss had this big dude? >> And now they're on. See, now now they're

[2:59:50] off it. Now they're off it. Now they're back in uh their comfort zone there. So I think that's probably a little bit of what uh the Autism Capital account was referring to when they picked up on this sort of strange kind of tension cuz yeah, didn't want to let him cook about the things he was uh cooking on. Uh but Theo got enough of it across uh to uh go viral anyway. And like I said, you know, they left on good terms. They didn't have a blow up or anything like that, obviously. Obviously. And the

[3:00:21] anti-depressant thing was not literal. I didn't take it as literal, but um yeah, that is that is an example of a sort of a sort of gatekeeping that that you kind of sense there, especially since, you know, Rogan led into that with, you know, red pilling Theo. The the irony is that that whole that whole exchange that kind of went viral because of how awkward it was. That whole exchange started because Rogan actually started red pilling him about uh Columbus and about Cortez. And yeah,

[3:00:52] I mean read in that chapter. I mean it was it was a near elimination campaign. I forget the exact figures but I mean yeah these explorers came in and they just they they killed almost everybody. They killed almost everybody. That's why you have European languages spoken throughout Central and South America now. It is it is a legacy of genocide. And then uh you know once once Theo picked up the ball and started running with it uh at that point uh it got shut

[3:01:22] down and misdirected into uh talk about Canada's uh gun policy. Uh too bad. Too bad. All right. Uh let's take some uh super chats uh and Rumble rants and then we will be headed over to Rumble for our Q&A. We got a great crowd still in here. 3131 strong in the YouTube chat and we got 958 over on Rumble. Please do smash that subscribe button and uh come on over to Rumble for the Q&A in just a

[3:01:52] bit. Eio Shush says Trump is the second biggest con in American political history. Number one is the Republican southern strategy that allowed libertarians to dismantle the New Deal and kill the middle class. That was uh yeah, I mean that was in a way, yeah, I'll give you that was probably more sophisticated. Um but in terms of just compressing everything into a expedited timeline, I got to say this one. I got to say it goes to this one. And by modern political history, we're kind of talking about like from that era on. I

[3:02:24] don't know where you draw the line at modern. I guess it depends how old you are. But when I think of modern, yeah, I think of actually like post civil rights era. Um, so depending on where you where you draw the line, I guess. Um, SASR uh says, "You are doing awesome, Mr. Katon. I hope Russell Davler stays safe." Well, thank you, SASR. Appreciate that very much. Katon, you're kicking ass. Oh, thank you, Michael Steel. Keep it up. Please tell Russell that I wanted

[3:02:55] to wish him safe travels. You and Kurt will be dynamite together. I can't stop thinking of my trip to NYC. We are all Persia. That's right. Thank you, Michael, very much. And yeah, no, I trust me. I mean, I think I'll get to everybody. We We got a lot of shows to put together. A lot of shows to put together. So, I got I got guests host in mind. We'll get to everybody. We got a lot of stuff um on the way. Uh we got Kit Cabello sitting in on Tuesday. Oh, by the way, so Jose Vega looks like he's going to get to debate Michael Blake.

[3:03:26] Um, and hopefully Richie Torres. Richie Torres has been invited to a debate. Uh, I don't know if he'll show up or not. Uh, but Michael Blake has apparently agreed to debate Jose Vega. And so we're looking at doing probably a double-header stream on Tuesday, uh, where I'll do the show with Kit and then we'll live stream the debate at six o'clock, uh, Eastern. It'll be a 90minute debate. I got to figure out how to put that together. Um, but yeah, no, we'll we'll get to everybody. I know we got we got Kit on uh Tuesday and then I got Rex Jones coming in on Thursday. Um

[3:03:59] and then uh from there uh it is to be announced. Not to be determined. I have some I have some guest slots lined up already, but don't worry, we'll get everybody in here. It's a big family in here. Uh Vanticus Prime, once I saw my ex at the other end of a museum exhibit. I wanted to talk to her, but I couldn't. There was too much history between us. Ha, good one. I like that one. I like that one. Thank you, Vienticus. Appreciate that. My real name, where is Pasta these days? I like the way he

[3:04:30] hosted the Jimmy Door Show. Pasta's still working. Pasta still grooving. Still making it happen. Uh, Gator Pete, thanks for the $10. I get it. My first go is YouTube, but I hear you. But comfort doesn't equal strength. You have to suffer somehow to appreciate what you have. The yin and the yang. It's what we used to fight for. Our breath. Love you. Veto. Oh, that's very nice. Gator Pete, thank you. Dave KBSC, have Rachel Blevens on the show? She's been a great on Ukraine and Iran Wars, but I've

[3:05:00] rarely seen her outside her own show. Yeah, I've never been in contact with Rachel Bleven, but that is an idea. That is an idea. Uh, I like that idea. So, thank you for that. Yep. She does very good work. Uh, indeed. Uh, Eio Shush, at this point I think Rogan is compromised. Not the Epstein kind, but Palanteer has some dick pics you sent to that female comedian. Would be a shame if the public and your wife have found out. I I don't necessarily think so. I mean, I don't there's no way of knowing, but no, I don't I don't have those. He he look he

[3:05:32] he seems like a nice person to be honest with you. Like he seems like a probably a a good guy. Um, I think, look, man, I've not I noticed this about his commentary when he got the Spotify deal. When you get paid a boatload of money, even if you're a nice guy, even if you're a good guy, I think somewhere in you, you kind of feel a need to justify that kind of wealth. you kind of feel a need to justify that level of wealth

[3:06:02] accumulation without feeling like you're part of the problem, you know? And I've noticed that like, you know, since he got that big deal, like the thrust of his political commentary is how like rich people deserve to be rich and how you shouldn't treat them too harshly because rich people aren't bad. I've just noticed that as kind of an undercurrent. And I'm not a huge I'm not a habitual listener like I don't listen every episode. I I listen when there's a guest on who I like and I've definitely

[3:06:34] noticed that as kind of a a a shift. Um but yeah, no like I I don't think Rogan is like a bad person. You I don't get that sense from him at all. Um and I know he treats look he treats comics really well at his club and gives them a great venue and that's rare. Like that's hard. like you're you're you're a working artist, be there music or standup or anything. You're used to [ __ ] dogging it for [ __ ] pay and [ __ ] venues and [ __ ] treatment. You know, a lot of these [ __ ]

[3:07:05] the the ownership class in in the artist world is uh is can be really scummy. And so, you know, he seems to really not be scummy in that way. So, I'll say that for him. I just, you know, I think his political direction since he took that money is reflective of a guy who took a lot of money and is worth a lot of money. Like that's that's my take on Joe Rogan. I don't I don't speculate beyond that. Uh stoop sign like four months ago, Israel made a campaign to get Theo

[3:07:35] to try and whack himself. That is dark. Joe is friends with Ker. That was a 1/100th of a Ker rant. 1/100th of a curve rant. Thank you. Eio Shush Rogan spent years trying to find Bigfoot. Now he's calling people crazy for thinking Palanteer is involved in the genocide that has been broadcast to the world in 4K real time. Well, yeah. I mean, that's the thing. That's the thing. Like, you know, he's indulged thoughts a lot crazier than that. [laughter] And now he's like, yeah, when when the

[3:08:06] Pounder thing came up, he's like, well, this is a biased source, right? Uh yeah, I probably should have included that, but I tend to uh I tend to air on the side of focusing the pieces. Maybe to a fault. Maybe I should have included that. Um but we're at three hours anyway, even with my trimming. So only Europeans were brutal. Grow the [ __ ] up, you child. Did I say only Europeans are brutal? Like did I say that? Like you you have to you have to listen to what's actually said rather than just like project what you wish I had said. so you

[3:08:39] could own me. Like if I had said that, that would be a legit response because I did not say only Europeans are brutal. I I I did not say that. I did not say that. So go and rewind the tape. Thanks for the donation. Appreciate the uh constructive feedback. Always good to have constructive criticism. But I did not say only Europeans were brutal. I do not think only Europeans were brutal. Citing the fact that the European settlers in the Americas were brutal does not logically

[3:09:11] mean that I said only Europeans were brutal. Uh so better luck next time, my friend. Thank you for your support. JD and Kurt still have their lips glued to Rogan's behind. Like I said, they're friends. You know what are you gonna do? Um whoa, super ironic. Their Southpar's gas field is actually located north of Qatar's Northfield. Mind blown. The South Pars gas field is located north of Qar's Northfield.

[3:09:42] Mind blown. Eio Shush. Unless Joe was talking about Jewish men of military age with billions of dollars and blackmail to control the media and politicians in America, then he was right about the border. Pon Leon was a genocidist uh too. Oh yeah, they were all brutal. They were all brutal, man. It was horrible. It's horrible. Very upsetting. I remember reading that when I was a teenager, man. Um and just Yeah, really. I mean, you know, you always

[3:10:13] re like when you read your school book for like American history, you read that yeah, these were brilliant explorers who discovered America and yeah, they did some bad things to some of the Indians, but the overall presentation of these people is as you know, uh heroic um discoverers of great things. They don't they don't

[3:10:45] put the emphasis where the emphasis should obviously lie, which is in just how awful awful is not the word. It's beyond it's beyond words what they did to the native peoples. And um yeah, you you it's all there. First chapter of people's history. It's a long chapter. It's about 45 pages and it is uh very very eye opening, very upsetting. Uh whoa, super ironic. Southpar's [clears throat]

[3:11:16] gas field. Oh, I think we got that one already. Is actually located north of Qar's north field. Mind-blowing. Jew on the go. Hey Katon, I have a cowbell andor a prayer bell just like the one Russ got that I'll be glad to give you. Oh, thank you very much. That That's not necessary though. I I could get one. I could get one, you know. I I can get one uh I can get one overnighted here. But that that is very that is very kind of you to offer. Uh just let me know where to send it. Thank you for the offer. But I I will I will get one. Uh
