Title: Gabby Tulsi | DeProgram with Ted Rall and John Kiriakou
Show: DeProgram Show with Ted Rall and Jamarl Thomas
Date: 2026-03-19
URL: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qy42IC7br0g
Duration: 3515

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[00:01] There it is. There it is indeed. Good morning, John Kiriakou. It is Thursday, March 19th, 2026, and the Sisyphus program with Chad Rohl and John Kiriakou. Nice to see you, John. Good to see you, Ted. Welcome back. Um Good to be back. And so, uh yeah, good news all around. Thank you for your support, everyone. We're now, I think, at 31,000 subscribers on YouTube, and uh so, we're just in awe of you guys. >> Amazing. All right, we have a lot to talk about. Um big just another busy news day. Um so, we'll

[00:34] get into the latest out of the Iran uh the Iran war. We'll be talking about uh stuff going on in Lebanon. Uh main topic is Tulsi Gabbard and how she kind of had to do a delicate dance yesterday um in front of Congress, and uh I don't know. Um she may be the next Kristie Noem. Uh that could be that all the ladies get fired. Um super interested in the uh Pam Bondi story. Um and just uh just a little bit of housekeeping. Um in 2 hours, uh a

[01:05] special cross-pollinating treat as John, you're going to join Scott Dworkin and I on the DMZ America podcast. That's 11:00 a.m. Eastern time with myself and Scott Dworkin and John Kiriakou. So, you want to see a different side of uh John and the same side of me, um you'll that's that's at 11:00 a.m. Uh so, Eastern time. So, uh please like, follow, and share the show. As always, we apologize for the slight technical glitch at the beginning, but uh Rumble was acting funky today, but it looks

[01:36] like it's back. Okay. Um John, uh any uh preferences uh to tell what you'd like to talk about first? Shall we do Tulsi? Let's jump in with Tulsi. I I have to start off by saying that um there have been so many signs, so many signals that Tulsi is not just not respected in the administration, but that she's on her way out. I can't believe that she has survived the last 6 months. And I I

[02:07] I don't believe that she will last till the end of this war. I I I mean she's she's not even she doesn't even take part in many of the most important meetings. And then when photographs >> invited to them or is that or she is that I strongly suspect that she's not invited, yes. And then instead she's invited or or tasked with going to Georgia to, you know, oversee the raid, the FBI raid of uh of the election uh commission. Something that the ODNI has literally nothing to do with. And then the

[02:39] administration is unable to explain why they asked her to do it in the first place. So, I'm just not And I like Tulsi. Uh but I I just I just don't think that this job is for her. Uh I'm going to I don't agree with I don't disagree with a syllable that you just said. Um so, yesterday she um was called before Congress and um she was asked about the assessment two assessments, two key assessments that were given as the main justifications

[03:11] for this war. Uh number one is that Iran was 2 weeks away from a nuclear weapon, according to President Trump. Number two uh and the CIA and other intelligence uh agencies concluded that that's not true at all, that Iran was not working on developing a nuclear weapon, was not rebuilding its nuclear enrichment capabilities um at all. That was their assessment. Um Trump also claimed that Iran was 2 weeks I guess they're 2 weeks away from everything from building uh long-range intercontinental ballistic

[03:43] missiles that could reach the United States and you nuke, you know, John and I in Washington and New York, respectively. Um but that's not true. They Not only did the were have were the Iranians at least 9 to 10 years away on that point, they haven't even started it according to the intelligence community. She was asked about that. She didn't at all, to her credit, throw the CIA under the bus or anything like that. She She just basically took all the heat. She took all the heat herself. I would

[04:14] say that, you know, basically she was really between a rock and a hard place. She acquitted herself as well as could reasonably be expected short of, you know, issuing a resignation letter. There's kind of like nothing much else she could do. She didn't lie under oath. She told the truth and basically confirmed the you know, everything that she knows. And she exposed In doing so, she exposed the president as a liar. Um, and cuz, you know, the lie here is not, you know, nobody knows what the Iranians are up to except the Iranians. The lie

[04:46] is the certainty. I always say that about, you know, in 2003. We know Iraq has WMDs. The lie is not whether they have WMDs. The lie is your certainty. And you know, saying, "They're 2 weeks away." When, you know, you don't think they're 2 weeks away, that's a lie. So, Tulsi, um, Do you think she should resign? I mean, you're from If you're her, what's the right play? Like another principled resignation? So, first there was one, now there are two?

[05:17] That's what I would do. I would resign. Listen, she's just going to be beaten about the face and head on this issue. There There's no There's no upside to her. Her job is to protect the president, her political job. And then at the same time, it's to tell the truth about to the president about what the intelligence is saying. So, I mean, you can tell the president the truth and then lie lied I suppose. You're not supposed to, but

[05:48] you can get away with it. Either way, Congress knew she was lying. And um and so she took it on the chin. Almost as much as Mark Wayne Mullin, or whatever his name is, uh took it on the chin from a member of his own party yesterday, Rand Paul. We can talk about that later. John, can you chat a little bit more about that now because um I'm YouTube we're not live on YouTube and I'm going to try to fix that on my end. >> either. I can't I can't find us uh I I think are

[06:18] we on Rumble? on Rumble either. Oh, let me see if we are. Um Huh. No. Uh okay, so let me let me let me uh see if I can add us through StreamYard here. Okay. Uh we may have to start this completely from scratch cuz I mean we're just talking to Twitter at this point. >> Yeah. Uh and Twitter, we love you. We do. We love Twitter. We do. Um Okay. Um no time to

[06:51] Okay, I'm just going to hit this. Hopefully this will work. Oh god, I have to create a Rumble stream, really? Ah! I see. No. Uh It's like so annoying. Yeah, we're just like we're just not on air, John. Um I have to create a I have to create a Rumble stream. All right, let me see see. >> I I kept uh hitting refresh refresh

[07:22] refresh. Nothing was happening. [ __ ] Okay, all right, hold on. Create new live stream. Um So annoying. Okay. So And you have to do you have to enter everything like Yeah. You know what I

[07:52] mean? Right now, yes, right now is when we want it. >> Somebody wrote, "I wonder if Robbie has tried turning it off and turning it back on again." Yeah, he did actually. Yeah, he he [ __ ] did. Uh okay. All right, I just created a live stream. Okay. Create Okay. >> Oh, Robbie wants us to pop them on.

[08:24] Okay, hold on. Oh, we are on Rumble. Okay, good. We are >> Good, good, good, good. Really? I don't know. I'm not seeing it. All right, Robbie. We are live on Rumble. The problem is that there's some kind of a handshaking error with YouTube. All right, let me see if I can Let me just see if I can fix that. Uh okay, I'm just going to add YouTube. All right, I'm taking um so I'm going to edit out edit remove >> hell is there Why is there a second

[08:54] Rumble stream? Cuz I was just trying to create it cuz you cuz we couldn't see each other. Now we're Now there is not. Okay. >> Okay, then we have 121 people watching us on on YouTube. Please do not start another Rumble stream, Ted. You will blow us up. Okay, I I didn't. Okay, so we should Let's just see. We should be on YouTube now. Let's see. We're on Rumble, I see. Yeah, we are on Rumble. All right, I'm I'm hitting refresh here. I created a new YouTube stream.

[09:25] Uh maybe. Maybe I did. Let's see. If you're watching us on Rumble, we're trying to get YouTube up. Sorry. Um Yeah, Dan Smith, full-time Rumble. Uh all right, here we go. Okay. Let's just see if this is right. This might be right. I believe we are live on the other YouTube feed. Let me put that in

[09:56] to the chat. Tariq says, "Hey John, please give Joe Kent love." Mad love for Joe Kent right now. Deep respect for the guy. Deep respect. I might disagree with him on politics, but Okay, yeah, we're live on on one of the YouTube Rumble things. Good. Yeah, it was weird because we were trying to connect. I guess this is the This is the

[10:26] disadvantage of the shorter of the shorter thing. Okay, here we go. All right. I'm going to put in the link into the old YouTube so people can Is this the sound is good? Please go to All right. All right, I did that. I did my part. All right, guys, let's do this from scratch. What do you say, John? Cuz nobody saw anything. No, nobody saw it. Let's start from scratch. >> Everyone, thank you for tuning in. We're

[10:57] about to start from scratch. Thank you for your patience. I I blame Clovis. Okay. Well, hello, hello. Welcome to Deep Program with Jed and John Kiriakou. 13 minutes late, better than never. Rumble Studio is having all sorts of glitches. If you're watching us on YouTube,

[11:30] please bear in mind that we had to bring you guys over and create a new refresher a new stream. We will fix all that on the back end a little bit later on, but for now you can still see us. Thank you so much for your patience. Rumble came up a little bit faster. Anyway, this is the program for Thursday, March 19th, 2026. If you're watching us on X, we apologize for doing this all over again. All right, so today we're going to talk about Tulsi Gabbard and her testimony exposing Trump's lies

[12:00] about Iran's capability and desire to develop a nuclear weapon and ICBMs that could hit the United States. The we got to talk about the the the fight over the South Pars gas field which is really heating up like a couple hours ago. Something there was another really dangerous development. Israel's blowing up the key bridges across the key Litani River in southern Lebanon. I want to talk to you John about whether this is a prequel to annexation of

[12:30] southern Lebanon. Um And finally, last but not least, Attorney General Pam Bondi went before the House Oversight Committee and basically stonewalled the Democrats over the remaining unreleased Epstein files. And so thanks so much everyone. Robbie is going to try to clean up the pieces and and and get your comments up onto the board. I'll do the best I can to try to mop up as many of the questions that you have. In the meantime please like, follow, and

[13:01] share. Please post your questions in the live chat. John, let's refresh everyone about Tulsi Gabbard. You were saying I was saying that if I were were Tulsi, I would resign. Tulsi's been put in an impossible position where you've got two competing missions. Number one is to provide the president with an honest and complete assessment of the intelligence. But the other mission is

[13:33] to protect the president. Well, those two missions are mutually exclusive, at least they were yesterday. And so she had a choice, do I tell the truth and rat out the president or do I lie to Congress and protect the president? She chose to lie to Congress and protect the president. There won't be any fallout for her, but it makes her look weak and it makes her look sycophantic. So, I think she's short for this job.

[14:03] Frankly, just based on the last 6 months, I'm surprised that she's still in the position. I can't imagine she makes it until the end of the of the war. Oh, well, I guess how long is the end of the war? I think this is going to be a longer war than people realize. I think that the Iranians are very smart. I think they're incredibly resilient. You can keep killing Ayatollahs and ministers of this and ministers of that. It doesn't make any difference. There

[14:34] are always others who are going to take their position. We used to have this ongoing joke at the agency that we killed 27 number threes in Al-Qaeda. Which was probably true. It's just that they keep coming up with a new number three. Just like the Iranians can keep coming up with new generals and new ministers and, you know, new scientists. So, >> Decapitation strikes are not are are not it, as the kids say. Um so, yester- so basically, uh the the key casus belli

[15:04] in this war, and of course a lot of them have been given and we talked about that. But the big ones that Trump himself is focused on is that, according to him, and I don't know if he's getting this from BB Netanyahu or if he's just making the whole thing up or what, was that, you know, Israel that Iran's going to have have within they were going to have nukes within 2 weeks. That was unacceptable. And they were also going to have ICBMs within 2 weeks. So, 2 weeks we starting in 2 weeks, the United States was going to be vulnerable. And since Iran was inherently evil, as soon as they got it, they would use those

[15:35] nukes. John, I have a question cuz I literally just drew a cartoon to this question and about this for next week. North Korea's had uh ICBMs and they've had nuclear weapons for years. They're more erratic, I'd say, than the Iranians. And they're more of an enemy to America than the Iranians. Yet, they've never used one. So, where does it Where does the idea that if a rival power were to get a nuclear weapon with ICBMs, they would automatically use it? Where does that come from? It comes from

[16:06] the pea brain of Bibi Netanyahu. That's where it comes from. And you know, like we said last week, we're not talking about North Korea today. Why? Because North Korea has a nuclear weapon. Correct. Nobody's going to mess with it. And until Iran gets a nuclear weapon, everybody's going to mess with it. It's like Oprah. Everyone gets a nuclear weapon. Mhm. You remember the old Bugs Bunny cartoon where, you know, Bugs starts by smacking uh

[16:40] Foghorn Leghorn not Foghorn Leghorn Yosemite Sam. He smacks Yosemite Sam with his glove and Yosemite Sam pulls a knife and then Bugs pulls a gun and then Yosemite Sam pulls a bigger gun then Bugs pulls a cannon and then next thing you know, there's a there's the the planet Earth and there are two two guns um pointing at each other. Um So good. >> it, but in the end, you don't uh you don't destroy each other when you have nuclear weapons

[17:10] because then you end up just destroying yourself. Mutually mutual mutual assured destruction. Uh, yeah. >> Well, okay. So, we have um a very unfortunate thing that happened. It looks like some of the super chats vanished from the early part of the YouTube show. Um, so I'm going to I see one and I think we should get it get a go ahead and grab that. Anyone else who had a lost super chat that got eaten at the beginning of the show due to the technical difficulties, please pipe put

[17:42] them into um please put the same questions in the indicate we're going to do this on the honor system. Indicate that it was a super chat in all caps super chat followed by your question. And uh we will get to it, okay? But honor system is appreciated. Um, okay. Sneaker Dad, do you think the attack on Iran's natural gas fields maybe Israel's non-nuclear Samson option to sink the world economy like theirs and we should talk about the natural gas field. So, um Iran has a giant natural gas field

[18:13] called a South Pars. They share it um it's a big undersea lake under an underground lake of natural gas. They share it with Qatar and it's the biggest in the world. Um, basically the Israelis bombed it. Um, it has not fortunately only some of the facilities caught fire but the whole thing didn't blow up. Um, Trump's denying it but there are credible reports that he signed off on this. But now the Qataris understandably are pissed and um they're and they're saying please don't

[18:44] do that. This is a dangerous and irresponsible step. So, uh Trump said it won't happen anymore that we won't let Israel do that anymore. Um, the stock this tanked the stock market overnight um with the oil oil prices at one point surged to 119 a barrel, 67% increase over where we were 3 weeks ago. And France is calling for a moratorium on attacks against energy facilities. Uh, but then the basically Trump said don't worry, we will blow up we I will blow up that field entirely

[19:16] if the Iranians hit the Qataris again. The Iranians a couple hours ago decided to hit the Qataris again. That's a big Iranian [ __ ] you, right? >> It is. It is. And they figure rightly in my view they've got nothing to lose. What's he going to do? He's going to bomb them? He's already bombing them. He's going to kill the leader? He already killed the leader. Blow up a girl school? Already done. Whatever we can dish out the Iranians are going to take. They accept it. And

[19:47] so they're they're showing the world that they are not afraid of us. No, they're not afraid of us. No, it's it's it's it's a little scary though. I mean for you know, for us. Um well, so I guess so so what about that question? Do you think that's Israel's Samson sort of back I don't but you think it's their their sort of uh roundabout way of having a exercising their Samson option? Take the global economy down with them.

[20:19] I don't think that's >> Samson light. You know, one thing I learned about the about the the Israelis when I was at the agency is they they don't give a [ __ ] about international oil prices. Because they buy their oil from us or they buy it on the gray market. So they're going to get oil no matter what. All the Arabs can cut them off. It doesn't make any difference. They're still going to get it either from us or from the Arabs through Cyprus or through some broker or through Switzerland, whatever. They're going to get it. So

[20:49] they don't care. And we're going to subsidize it anyway. So then they really don't care. It doesn't make any difference if Donald Trump tells them stop bombing um gas facilities. They're going to do whatever they want. So >> And they expect Americans to fall right into line. So John, you know, I don't know if you've ever heard of this uh crazy natural gas like disaster in Turkmenistan under the Soviet period. So, >> It's still burning, isn't it? It's still

[21:20] burning. The Soviets basically were drilling for for oil. They accidentally struck a deposit of natural gas. This was in northern central Turkmenistan. This was in 1971. Yeah. It's a tourist attraction now. It's called the Gates of Hell. And you know, just if you ever wonder why we have so many greenhouse gases. So, that [ __ ] has been burning for half a century. And you know, the the current president wants to finally seal it off for obvious

[21:51] reasons. But you know, they haven't been able to do that. But that's just to to bring to put this into perspective. The far as field is bigger. South Pars is bigger than the total >> reading a paper on South Pars when I was still at the agency. And it said that if the Iranians and the Qataris continued to lift gas at the present rate, there's enough gas in that field for the next 550 years.

[22:24] That is crazy. >> It's a lot of gas. It's a lot of gas. I found another one that I think I've been able to rescue here. This is from Shawn WP. Thanks for the 499. Is the administration trying to get the Qataris off their back by saying that they weren't involved in that strike? Oh, probably. 100%, right? >> Yeah. The Israelis hate the Qataris. But we love the Qataris. And Qatar is home to Al Udeid Air Base, which is the

[22:54] largest US air base in the world. It's the largest air base period in the world. So, we need the Qataris. And the Israelis just hate that we're friendly with them. So. >> you what, I never met a Qatari that I didn't like. I I I really truly mean that. They're good people. And uh you know, they just believe that Palestinians deserve human rights and Palestinians deserve a homeland. And even after the Israelis came to them and said, you know, we want you to change that position, they said,

[23:25] "No. We're not going to We're not We're not you know, the rest of these Well, uh you know what, I I have to temper my language here. No, we're not going to We're not going to change our policy. How about that? That's good. Um yeah, by the way, oh my god, I'm going to have to delete these like extra YouTube um feeds, but I'll I'll I'll take care of that. Uh there's like there's like three uh and they're all kind of ident- It's like, what the hell? Um okay, so let's do some more questions. Um All right. Uh

[23:56] that kiwi, thanks for the $5. Do you think that if the US had actually communicated with its allies before starting the war, that they'd now be more open to coming to help? I should think so. Cuz you can't constantly criticize them and and call them, you know, old old Europe versus new Europe and we're with new Europe and then we're going to invade Greenland and screw you and and then oh by the way, we're going to wage war against Iran, we need your help. They're going to say, "Screw you." I was talking to a a German professor yesterday and he said, "The Germans will not lift

[24:30] a finger to help the Americans in uh in uh Iran. The Germans are all in with Israel because of this national guilt over World War II, but they are not going to help in Iran." And even on BBC this morning, I was watching BBC International this morning, they were saying that, "You know, the UK, you know, we want to help, but we can't because the Labour Party's against it, the rank and file's against it, and Keir

[25:00] Starmer doesn't risk does doesn't want to risk his position. They're not going to do anything for us. In the meantime, the French, the Spanish, the Portuguese, the Italians are all yelling, "Get out of your Iran, doggone you." Yeah. Yeah. This is not going well for us. No, it's it's not. I mean, it's so funny, too, because, you know, we keep making the same mistake, right? Like, this is like that famous meeting between Ho Chi Minh and John Foster Dulles where Ho Chi Minh where fellas Dulles said, "You can't beat us. We we're we're we

[25:30] have we're much more powerful and wealthy than you are." And Ho Chi Minh said, "You'll win every battle. We will win the war." Um you know, we just don't understand. Like, for the for the Iranians, they have to win. It's existential for them. And we made it that way for them, you know? Um Yes, we did. So, yeah, and coming in with the Israelis is is such a mistake. I mean, it it's so many mistakes. By the way, if you're just joining us, and this uh we are uh it's now 9:28 live uh Eastern Time.

[26:00] Uh at 11:00 a.m. Eastern Time, uh join the DMC America podcast with me and Scott Stanton, and John Kiriakou will be joining us. Scott always wants to talk to John, and he's always like, I've never met Scott. I know, it's so weird. So, finally, this will be, you know, when worlds collide, the DMC America podcast will be hosting John. We're I know Scott's very much looking forward to it, as am I. So, uh you know, that's uh just look for DMC America podcast. We're on YouTube and Rumble. You'll see it. It's also uh in my X feed. I posted

[26:30] the link, so. Um John, uh this question came down, I think, yesterday from Ray, but thanks for the five bucks. Um thoughts on Israel locking down the Church of the Holy Sepulchre during Orthodox Holy Week, Easter, and miraculous Holy Fire. Not even caliphate uh Ottomans ever did that. You know, I mentioned the other day uh I think I mentioned it on the show. I mentioned it to somebody. That that someone had posted on YouTube um video of the Church of the from the inside the Church of the Holy Sepulchre

[27:00] at the Edicule, which is that that what looks like a building on top of Christ's tomb right in the center of the church. Yeah. Air raid sirens were going off in the distance. You could hear the faint explosion off in the distance. And it was just like one priest just taking video and the place is completely empty and I thought, "Wow, what a shame. I hope that it remains, you know, safe." But the Israelis have just closed it yesterday. Just completely closed. And not just closed,

[27:31] closed for the holiest period of Christianity. Holy Week for both the Western churches and the Orthodox churches a week later. Closed. Unprecedented. Somebody in the in the chat said, "Even the Ottomans didn't do this." Which is true. Even the Ottomans. Well, I mean, do you think they're I mean, do you think they're trying to keep it safe or do you think there's something more nefarious going on? >> No, I think it's more nefarious. The Iranians are not uh

[28:02] targeting holy sites. They're not targeting the Old City of Jerusalem. They could have destroyed it by now if they wanted to and they haven't done that. I think this is just to piss people off with the mistaken idea that it's going to turn people against the Iranians. And it's not. It just makes Christians angry. Um yeah, yeah. Uh so, uh if that Kiwi, um if Israel did trigger the Samson Option, what would the fallout, excuse the pun, be from the

[28:34] international community? Would anyone actually do anything aside from strongly worded statements? God, that's a that is a great question. I mean, I'd you know, of course you want to think, "Okay, that's like a bright red line in the sand and like that couldn't be allowed and the entire world would come together as one, would invade Israel, take their government out of commission, put the Israeli government on, you know, in the docket at The Hague. But I'm not so sure.

[29:06] Yeah, I have to agree. 50/50? 50/50 maybe? >> 50 50/50, impossible to say. Um, you raise an important point here, too, Ted. Um, and I know that this is never going to happen, but I think that as a country we need to reassess our position on the International Criminal Court, the International Court of Justice. Right? I think Netanyahu belongs in the dock and I can name a half a dozen American leaders that probably belong in the dock with him. But, um, if if the United States is to

[29:36] be taken seriously as a country that respects the rule of law and civil rights and human rights, then we need to we need to sign that treaty. For sure. Um, have Al Gang 22, thanks for the 20 bucks. Have you guys been following the situation with Afroman? Well worth 5 minutes of investigation if not for an exa- exemplary microcosm of systemic racism for the laugh. Highly recommended. Also missed missed John at the wedding in Sydney. Uh,

[30:07] that would have been fun. I I tried. I tried. Um, I do not know. Oh, I remember Afroman. Yes, he sued a bunch of cops in, uh, in Ohio and like sort of live streamed the crimes that were being committed against him. He was a rapper. I need to look that up. >> he won. He won yesterday, as a matter of fact. Jury sides with rappo at rapper

[30:38] Afroman in Adams County civil trial. Good for him. Any Any time Any time a black guy beats the cops at trial, that's something you got to celebrate. >> state like Ohio. True. True. Um although Ohioans deep down are common sense people. I remember there was a In Dayton a black guy was sitting in the west side of Dayton, which is a you know, minority neighborhood. And the cops broke in, wrong address, busted his house. He had a gun. He shot one of the

[31:10] cops to death cuz he thought it was a home invasion. The cops never announced themselves. They weren't wearing uniforms, no badges. Um and you know, it was a it was a it was a it was touch and go for him. But you know, 12 Daytonians good and true said he should walk. And he did. >> Wow. Wow. Hey Ted, I wanted to um ask you about the latest polls from Ohio. Mhm. That show the Democrats winning both the Senate seat and the

[31:42] governor's race. What do you think of that? Well, I mean it's a long way between March and November, of course. >> way. Um look, um I suspect that this has a lot to do with two major issues in Ohio. First of all, um the economy, you know, which has not been good since I was a child. Uh you know, in during my childhood. >> since 1978. Yes. Right. It's been a I mean, it's just been circling the drain and then after was the last nail in the coffin. Um you know, I mean, Trump Trump

[32:13] won Ohioans by promising to uh you know, get rid of these free trade agreements, to uh to basically focus on bringing jobs back. He, you know, he has fallen short there. And I think Daytonians are paying attention. Tim I mean, Ohioans are paying attention. Temperamentally, um he doesn't fit with Ohio. Um you know, he's too spazzy and he's too aggressive. Ohioans are polite people. Uh they're very civil, very like moderate, almost to a fault. And and and I don't

[32:44] think he he just doesn't fit. Trumpism is no longer a good fit. But I think as this president goes off the rails and focuses on international adventurism, I mean, I'm sure it's the same way in your neck old neck of the woods Western Pennsylvania, too. You know, Western Pennsylvania used to be solidly blue. Like as blue as blue could get. And now it is ruby red. But that can change. But that can change. You're exactly

[33:15] right. Especially if turnout is depressed. And it looks like that's the problem that the Republicans are going to be struggling with is that Republican voters are not motivated. They don't like the direction of the country. They were led to believe that this was an anti-war president and an anti-war party and it's not. And now inflation's up and gas prices are up and everything else is trailing, but it's going to go up because of gas prices. And then what do you do? Then elections are upon you. Look, I hate to say

[33:46] Democrats are right cuz they're often not. But, you know, they said that Trump was a con man. And I'm you know, there's a lot of bait and switch in this presidency, right? Like oh, I'm you know, just the stuff that you mentioned. And like now the Democrat they're chasing down the Save America Act. And it's like, well, but they're promoting it like it's a voter ID bill. It's not. It's not a voter ID bill. Voter ID, I'd vote for voter ID. And did you know, I didn't know until yesterday that the Republicans attached onto the very back end of this Save America or Save Act,

[34:18] whatever it's called, they attached two riders. One to ban trans women from or trans women from women's sports and the other to ban um whatever they call it, gender-affirming care for minors. Mhm. Which has nothing to do with voting. No. I mean, even look even your favorite senator, John Fetterman, came out against this move and said that he's not going to vote for the SAVE Act. He says

[34:48] he just wants a clean voter ID Act. I mean, John Fetterman, the man who's a like a compass that that points south, consistently wrong, um he's he's right on this. Yeah, he's right on that. I agree. Yeah, no. Okay, so that Kiwi, thanks for the two bucks. Uh do you think other notable figures are going to follow Ken's resignation? And would Trump even care? Tulsi Gabbard might. It would be the right play. I mean, because you know you know the thing, John, right? Like once is an incident,

[35:19] twice is a coincidence, three times makes a pattern. Uh Tulsi Gabbard has the chance to make a to make a coincidence. And then whoever is next really makes a splash. They all get to go on Tucker. They all get to make a big deal. They get to maybe end up on MS now or whatever as, you know, like where all former Republican traders go. The good Republican of the day. Yeah, exactly. You get to Everyone could be Michael Steele. Such respect for this guy. His wife was killed in action in Syria.

[35:53] He knows what war is. He did 11 tours in Afghanistan and Iraq. >> A glutton for punishment. Seriously. I mean, this guy's got nothing to prove to me. And I think he he shouldn't have to prove himself to any American. The the smear machine is on like it's it's at 11 with him, though. Yeah, it is. It is. They're just dumping all over him. And it's like oh, it's like oh, but the the FBI is investigating him for leaking now. Yeah, right. He didn't leak anything. A weaponized DOJ. And it's

[36:24] like, of course, you know, if you hadn't to Look, it's like this. It's like if you had never with blown the whistle, you'd still be sitting at your you'd still be sitting at the agency, right? And it's like and they'd love you and you'd be getting awards and raises. And similarly, if he had been, you know, hadn't hadn't squawked and hadn't resigned and and made a make splash, everyone would be talking about how great he was. All the Republicans. And it's so transparent. It's ridiculous. Um let's see. Cleek Antiquity, $1.99.

[36:56] Thoughts about the leak to USCCB document condemning Carrie Prejean. I have no idea. Do you know? Uh no. I'm sorry. We'll have to >> Carrie Prejean, but I haven't seen anything about her. >> that? Isn't she the the nun? The anti death penalty. Is that right? Hold on. We'll have to look that up. Prejean Oh, no, no, no. She's the model. Oh, Prejean the nun was Oh, Carrie Prejean, of course. She's Miss She was Miss

[37:27] California. She was on the president's religious advisory council. Oh, she She gave an interview to Tucker last week. That is absolutely fascinating. You have to watch it. No holds barred, man. She came out swinging. What she say? What's her allegation? That this Paula that Paula White the nut that that hilarious video There's a hilarious video of this woman Paula White. She's the head of the president's like religious council, whatever, and his personal pastor. She's

[37:58] the one that's going in Africa in Africa in Africa Africa in Africa angels angels angels angels like and there's a guy like reading a book and pacing behind her. It is freaking hilarious. Talk about cultish. So anyway, they told her um that she needs to get with the program because on her social media, she's not saying all the right things. That she's got a she's got to support Israel. Right? Israel Israel Israel. And she's like, "No, they're discriminating

[38:30] against Christians, the original Christians." By the end of this year, there will be no Christians left in Bethlehem. That has been >> crazy. a Christian city / village for 2,000 years. 25 years ago, that was a >> 7s. That was a substantial population 25 years ago. >> Christian population in in Israel. Um so, they they told her, "You got to stop. You got to go back and delete all these posts, and you've got to endorse

[39:00] the president and endorse Israel." And she said, "No." And they're like, "Okay, then we'll await your resignation." And she's like, "Okay, fine." And they told her, "But you're not allowed to say anything once you resign." She's like, "Fuck you." She can say whatever the [ __ ] she want. >> on she's gone on all of the the talk shows. Um now people are saying, "Hey, this is what a Republican Senate candidate should look like." Mhm. Yeah. >> Okay, which I think is a very cool idea. John, we have a lot of questions to get to. So, let's try to get bang them out.

[39:32] And we still have some to No, it's all right. Uh Pac-Man's, thanks for the 20 bucks. Back in 2012, a guy sat with my friend and I in uh Kyclades Astoria and asked us what we thought about Obama. We were in DC We were in DC for school. Do you think that was a fed? He walked in mid-meal and sat down with us. We are Greek American. Could be. Sure. Astoria, for people who don't know, is the Greek the Greek neighborhood in Queens. Uh If you're ever if you're ever really seriously hungry, Yeah.

[40:04] >> a good place to go. >> Yeah, go to Astoria. >> I I I dated >> Um yeah, they they could have been, sure. Sure. They do that. They do that just to see what people are going to say. Cuz people often, you know, implicate themselves unwittingly. Uh just a random I I appreciate Edison's comment here. Just a random thought, I find it strange how almost 90% of the time people only address John in questions when Ted is a major part of this show. I encourage all other chatters to watch Ted's a life. Thank you. >> I agree. I appreciate that. Thanks,

[40:34] John. All right. >> Bryson Smalls 999. Hello, Ted and John. Your show has become one of the best parts of my day and mine. Um what is your assessment on China invading Taiwan? My friend believes this should be America's main focus and that war is inevitable. Um John and I think it's fair to say that you and I both think that your friend needs to relax. Um Taiwan is safe. Yeah, Taiwan's safe. Um >> And the the Chinese just as a matter of long-standing policy are generally not imperialistic. They believe that Taiwan

[41:05] will rejoin uh China, make one China in due course. They don't feel they need to force it militarily. Yeah, it's they're going to get it back the way they got Hong Kong back. That's right. It's like, you know, China the Chinese are like, it's a cliche for a reason. It's like the one thing we have is time. Time's on our side, as the Rolling Stones said. Uh Claudio Javier, thanks for the 5,000 Argentine whatever that is. Uh John, do you know

[41:36] I've never been to Argentina. I want to go. Oh, it's magnificent. Um John, why did Al-Qaeda fighters fly to Pakistan instead of Iran? Uh underestimated Pakistani protection? Uh because my real question is how how many Al-Qaeda went to Iran and might be polishing their weapons now? Um not many went to Iran. One of bin Laden's sons went to Iran with his group of of cohorts. Uh but mostly because

[42:06] uh Iran was not friendly at all to Al-Qaeda. Uh of course, Al-Qaeda is Sunni Muslim. Iran is largely Shia Muslim. And as soon as they crossed the border into Iran, they were placed under arrest and held in a uh, in a house under house arrest. But, I mean, like for years, for almost a decade. Uh, so they didn't get a friendly reception in Iran. In in in Pakistan, you know, we worked very closely, of course, with the Pax to uh, you know, bust down the door and grab people. But, the Pax were overwhelmed.

[42:38] There were just too many There were just too many people who had flooded across the border from from Afghanistan. And so, I think that the calculation was they had a better chance at remaining free in Pakistan if they could hide than they would have in Iran. Ah. >> Now, we we did go to the Iranians repeatedly and say, "We want bin Laden's son." And they said, "Can't can't do it." >> Now, this was under General Pervez Musharraf. And look, um, I have personal you know, knowledge of that. Pervez

[43:09] Musharraf made an unholy bargain with the Taliban to fight the Indians in the Cargo Conflict of 1999. And he became, you know, he was not a Taliban guy at all, but he was a um, but he was definitely Taliban friendly. He was a Pakistani nationalist. And he said, "I'm joining joining forces with the Taliban, and by God, he's going to join forces with the Taliban." He was he was really a pig that way, really, truly. I can't believe we gave him money. Um, John is breaking news. The

[43:40] Pentagon just put in is is just issued a request for the Iran war. They want 200 billion more dollars. 200 billion more dollars? That is correct. Mhm. I will read the story. Uh, this is from the Associated Press. Uh, so, I, you know, they're very reliable. Um, okay. The Pentagon is seeking 200 billion dollars in additional funds for the Iran war, a A adminis- administration official says. The department sent the request to the White House according to the official." Uh

[44:11] it's an uh blah blah blah blah blah. Uh first the new funding request first reported by Wapo asked about it, Heck said did not directly confirm saying it could change but said, "We're going back to Congress and our funds there and our folks there to ensure that we're properly funded. It takes money to kill bad guys. Apparently it takes a lot of money." Now >> but that's only going to last 100 days. Just what I was going to say. But also we're um there's also um indications that they're sending more um

[44:43] you know, aside from the 2,500 troops they're going to they want to send thousands more. Sounds to me like they want to do the Karg Island operation. Do you think Karg I don't think the Karg Island I mean I think it'll put a it'll certainly annoy the Iranians but I don't think it's going to reopen the Strait of Hormuz. Do you? No. Because the Iranians will still be able to fire at stuff that's coming >> Sure. And and like we said day before yesterday, too. If there's one thing that the Iranians are really good at it's harassing ships with fast boats.

[45:14] Yeah. You know, they're really good at that. >> and they have missiles and um let's talk very quickly. Let me uh I can think we can dispose of this in about 30 seconds. So, the Litani River is a key landmark in Lebanon. It basically I don't know this roughly the bottom eighth of uh cuts off basically the the board it's the northern border of the bottom eighth of Lebanon. Um and traditionally the Israelis kind of view the Litani River as sort of like whenever they want a buffer zone, they invade up to the Litani River and they

[45:46] uh and they and they kind of like keep that for until their operations are over to protect northern Israel from attack. Um the Israelis just blew up all the key bridges that cross that river. Um what does that tell you, John? I think they're serious this time about a buffer zone. I think that they fully intend to make all of the area south of the Litani River a a no-go zone for everybody. Like permanently is is my take. Yes, permanently. Don't forget they've got

[46:18] Israeli settlements that are practically right on the border with Lebanon. It's just too dangerous for for these settlers to live there and these Israelis want to continue expanding settlements. And so the the best way to do that is to clear out the southern southern eighth of Lebanon so that Hezbollah can't fire these small rockets into the settlements. And you know, they've been the Israelis have been talking about this for decades. They just never actually did it. Well, now that they've got fully fully 1/9 of the entire

[46:50] population of Lebanon on the road as internally displaced people now's the time to implement it. I mean, it's it's it's like Gaza the 2.0, right? I mean, where are these people supposed to go? They're being bombed out of Beirut, the biggest city and the capital. They're being they're being pushed out of the south. I mean, I guess it's a we're going to Could we see another Gaza-style mass carpet bombing genocide? I mean, Lebanon's a lot bigger than Gaza. Yeah, you know, I hate to even say yes,

[47:22] but we both know the Israelis. So, yeah. Yeah. Terrible terrible crimes against humanity are a distinct possibility. Uh the the OGJD, thanks for the 1999. Good morning, gentlemen. I got my pardon John shirt yesterday, which is >> Hey, great. Can't wait to wear it in DC for the 250th celebrations in July. Question for John, what's one thing I can do daily to develop a glass half full mindset like yours? That's a good question. You know, I I've

[47:53] been answering that question a lot on Tik Tok. I did it twice this morning as a matter of fact. Um, you've got to do things for yourself. You've got to love yourself and engage in self-care, even if that just means working out for an hour or maybe go for a run. Maybe just listen to music for an hour. You know? Music makes me so happy. Yeah, something to divert your attention from you know, these terrible events that we talk about every morning uh, here on the show. Do something for

[48:23] yourself. You know, get a massage. It's an investment. It's true. I never regret getting a massage, ever. >> Never. Uh, it's uh, James Kelly, thanks for the $10. Is it weird that BB said in his last video that they'll be that they will be watching from above and now we see we hear people seeing drones above military bases. Am I crazy? Including in Washington, where both Pete Hegseth and Marco Rubio live. You think it's drones? I don't think they're Israeli drones cuz drones don't

[48:54] have that much range. No, I I unless they're Israeli drones launched from, you know, the Israeli embassy. I think this is about satellites. What do you think? >> Oh, yeah. Definitely. Definitely satellites. Yeah. >> Uh, Sodden, thanks for the $19.99. Good morning, John. The forgotten war in Sudan. The rebels are taking control due to the straits being blocked. UAE can't get weapons and other items to the opposition. What are your thoughts and what other ramifications you see happening? >> You know, isn't that an interesting point? The Saudis and the Emirates are very,

[49:24] very angry with each other right now to the point where there's a very serious and unprecedented split in diplomatic relations between the two countries. To the point where they're fighting they're fighting proxy wars against each other. We focused on Yemen, but there's a proxy war in Sudan as well. Sodden's right. Um, this is going to be a problem and it gives a major leg up to the Saudi government to arm its side, which is the Sudanese government.

[49:55] Uh Robbie's got a message for for our viewers. Okay, hold on. And Robbie, before I forget, do we have an ad? Uh we do. I'll pop it up here. So, just a real quick request for y'all. If we miss y'all's super chats, either because of the technical issues earlier or just because it's just busy, if y'all email me uh the super chat, preferably with a with a screenshot, just makes life just makes life easier. If not, just send it to me at westglaciergaming@gmail.com. I will make sure I get submitted, gets

[50:26] put to the stack the next day for the fellows here. And uh also, if there's ever any kind of problem like there is this morning, it's almost always has to do with the handshaking error. If y'all come If we're supposed to go live on YouTube, but you don't see us, come over to Rumble. Nine times out of 10, we are live on Rumble before YouTube goes up because the the stream originates here, and then it gets rebroadcasted. So, just so that way you're not missing anything. Thank you, Robbie. Yeah, that's that's uh good advice. Also, it's This is, by

[50:57] the way, for people who are irritated by the countdown that I do edit out, but it takes a few hours to do that. That's why we have the countdown. It's for the handshaking so that we have time to get all the streams synced up. >> Yeah, and this morning, what happened I didn't figure out why YouTube YouTube rejected the stream key from Rumble. YouTube just will not just would not let us stream from Rumble over to YouTube like what they normally do. I don't know if it's cuz of the lawsuit going on or what, but What lawsuit? >> Uh so, basically, YouTube is being sued

[51:27] uh in a couple of different court cases, one of which has to do with how Google AdSense uh basically has a monopoly on ads and how they were working with the global consortium of advertisers. And YouTube and Google basically uh push out all the competition. They they control the ads. Okay. And so Rumble is suing them saying that they might have to >> anti-trust stuff. >> Yeah, 100% cuz they control the they control the space. And then they have inflated the prices. Well, don't worry

[51:57] guys. Uh we don't we we we are streaming right now not through Rumble Studio. We're streaming through StreamYard. So uh we can still get to YouTube and that's not going to go away. All right, Robbie, please put up that ad and uh in the meantime I'll answer your question. Thank you. Um okay. So uh yesterday this reminds me uh there was a leftover uh $50 donation from Quincy Brown. Hi uncles, I'm a young man who will still soon graduate with his master's in clinical mental health counseling. Social psychology is something I plan to utilize to gain support for leftists. Yay! I'm also

[52:28] organizing locally with socialists. Also yay! It's great to see a fellow lefty in Ted. However, the important question is what are some ways in your experience Ted to win over people like Robbie. Robbie, I would love to hear your thoughts as well. As always, thank you Robbie for running the show, Ted for bringing awareness to America and John for standing up for what he believes in. After all, a man who stands well, you know, we get the picture I don't have the rest of it. I would read the rest of it but I don't have it. Um Robbie, do I ever convince you of things?

[52:59] Yeah, you have. I read your book. And if you want to if you want to change my mind, you do it by making an argument. You don't do it by calling me a Nazi. It's pretty straightforward. Name calling never works. No. And and the ad is up now. Okay, great. Thank you. Uh okay. So yeah, I mean basically talk to people like they're human beings and meet them at their level and you know, not you know, you know, not like don't condescend. Just be respectful and and try to use logic. Yeah. >> Uh you know, the I don't think it's that hard unfortunately. Uh okay, so let's redo the ad. Um they

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[54:33] forever. Okay. So, John, let's try to get through as many of these as we can today. >> And but we're not going to get through them all, I'm afraid. Did we see Mullin's confirmation hero hearing? What a circus. He may make Kristi Noem look sane. Glad Rant Paul called out his character. And on top of Yeah, on top of, you know, trying to fight the head of the United Auto Workers uh, in the midst of the hearing, it looks like the guy just has made all this [ __ ] up about his, you know,

[55:05] military heroics. I wanted to ask you about that. >> Made it up. Do you think he was a merc? I do, actually. I do. That was my take. Yeah. That's why he didn't want to talk about it. And he still doesn't want to talk about it, even especially under oath. But he's got to. He's got to. >> He wants to be He wants to be confirmed. Ridiculous. Um, Lorraine Frost, thanks for the 1999. Much appreciated. Um, Heather Jackson, thanks for the five bucks. No votes, AIPAC people. J.E. protect Jeffrey Epstein protectors,

[55:37] warmongers ever. Uh Christine R K, thanks for the $7.99 Australian dollars. What happens if Trump continues threatening allies and they close US intel facilities in response? What happens if facilities like Pine Gap are gone? Could that ever happen? It could. It's unlikely because other countries always take a longer view than we do. Um they know that Donald Trump's only going to be president another 2 and 1/2 years. And so they're just going to buckle down and hope for the best.

[56:09] Uh Father um Timothy Curran, thanks for the $19.99. John, thanks for highlighting the plight of the indigenous Christian population of the West Bank. Did you see the article Ted Cruz posted that was directed at Orthodox and Catholic voices in the conservative space? >> Yeah. Ted call Ted Cruz is a cultist who has no connection whatsoever to Christianity. He's he's a nut and we should dismiss him as a nut. Uh Adams, thanks for the 10 uh dirhams from the Emirates. My previous

[56:40] super chat got skipped over. We Robbie, please try to fix that. Um that Julius fellow, thanks for the $9.99. Don't know if it was discussed. Will the Russian oil and possible envoy be allowed into Cuba? Thoughts on how that will play out? Um I would suspect it will be allowed into Cuba. Yeah. Uh I don't think Trump Trump has his hands full. Yeah, he's he's not going to want to take on the Russians right now on top of That would be a mistake. Yeah. Trip D, thanks for the $4.99. What's the chance of the rise of MBS in Saudi

[57:11] Arabia to the throne and his consolidation of power is encouraged by the CIA more control of the Middle Eastern region? I mean, he will be the >> came around very quickly on MBS. You know, Mohammed bin Nayef was their guy from the very beginning. Mohammed bin Nayef has was given the highest honor that the CIA could possibly bestow on anybody. And and then he was, you know, thrown out and placed under house arrest. And so I I think the CIA came around very quickly on MBS and has worked very

[57:42] closely with MBS post Jamal Khashoggi. And I think that they are looking forward to his ascension to the throne. John, have a great trip, but I'll see you in an hour right on the DMC America podcast with Scott Santis and myself. As always, we we we take questions over there as well, so don't be a stranger. Much appreciated. See you later. Please stay tuned for the TMI show with me and Manila Chan. That's coming right up right now. See you in an hour.
