[00:01] WALLS, MAKE A GRIEVOUS ERROR. >> Tucker: THERE IS NOTHING THE MEDIA WON'T REPEAT NODDING MINDLESSLY. HERE'S ANOTHER THING CNN DEMOCRATS AGREE ON, THE WHISTLE-BLOWER IS A BRAVE HERO DOING A VITAL SERVICE TO THIS COUNTRY. HE'S A WHISTLE-BLOWER! THE FUNNY THING IS AND YOU LIVE IN WASHINGTON, WE HAVE WHISTLE-BLOWERS HERE AND THEY ARE ALMOST ALWAYS IGNORED AND MISTREATED BY THE PEOPLE IN
[00:31] POWER. ALL THE COOL KIDS LOOKED DOWN ON REAL WHISTLE-BLOWERS. IT'S AMAZING. MOST OF THEM YOU DON'T EVEN KNOW EXIST. YOU NEVER HEAR THEIR NAMES. ONE EXEMPTION TO THE RULE IS JOHN CARIBOU HE BLEW THE WHISTLE ON THE CIA COVERT TORTURE PROGRAMS AND WE BROUGHT THEM ON TO ASSESS THIS NEW WHISTLE-BLOWER. HOW DO YOU ASSESS THIS ASSESS THIS WHISTLE-BLOWER? >> I DO NOT THINK THIS IS A WHISTLE-BLOWER. I THINK THIS IS AN ANONYMOUS
[01:04] SOURCE FOR THE DEMOCRATIC STAFF IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES. >> THAT SOUNDS VERY DIFFERENT FROM A WHISTLE-BLOWER. WHAT IS A WHISTLE-BLOWER DISTINCT FROM WHO THIS PERSON IS? >> A WHISTLE-BLOWER IS ANYBODY WHO BRINGS UP WASTE, FRAUD, ABUSE, THREATS TO PUBLIC HEALTH OR SAFETY, AND THEY DO THIS ALMOST ALWAYS WITH A GREAT PERSONAL COST ATTACHED TO IT. THIS SO-CALLED WHISTLE-BLOWER AT THE CIA IS SOMEONE WHO IS ACTING
[01:36] ANONYMOUSLY AND, REMEMBER, THIS PERSON IS NOT AN UNDERCOVER CIA OPERATIVE. BY ALL ACCOUNTS, THIS IS AN ANALYST WHO WHO IS NOT UNDER ANALYST WHO WHO IS NOT UNDEO ANALYST WHO WHO IS NOT UNDEE ANALYST WHO WHO IS NOT UNDE. YOU CAN'T HIDE THIS PERSON'S NAME, IDENTITY, JUST TO SAVE HIM FROM EMBARRASSMENT OR TROUBLE OF BEING RECOGNIZED OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. IT'S JUST NOT APPROPRIATE. IF THIS IS A WHISTLE-BLOWER, NEEDS TO COME FORWARD IN PUBLIC, TESTIFY IN AN OPEN SESSION, AND BLOW THAT WHISTLE. >> WHAT'S INTERESTING IF HE COMES OUT AND MAKES THESE ALLEGATIONS AND THE WHITE HOUSE
[02:07] IMMEDIATELY RELEASES THE TRANSCRIPT TO END THE STORY. IN YOUR CASE, YOU MADE ALLEGATIONS THAT WERE TRUE, IT TURNED OUT. AND YOU STILL WENT TO PRISON FOR SAYING IT. >> I DID. I WENT TO PRISON FOR 23 MONTHS. THE SAME PEOPLE THAT ATTACKED ME ARE ATTACKING THE PRESIDENT. ROBERT MUELLER SET IT UP, JOHN BRENNAN PETITION THE ATTORNEY GENERAL HOLDER TO CHARGE ME WITH FIVE FELONIES OF ESPIONAGE, ALL OF IT
[02:38] DISMISSED. IRONICALLY IT WAS PETER STRZOK WHO PUT THE CUFFS ON ME IN 2012. >> WAIT A SECOND, YOU TOLD THE TRUTH ABOUT WHAT A FEDERAL AGENCY WAS DOING WITHOUT THE KNOWLEDGE OR CONSENT OF CONGRESS. >> THAT'S RIGHT. >> OUTSIDE THE DEMOCRATIC CHANNELS UNDERMINING DEMOCRACY AND MSNBC AND >> ACTUALLY ONLY FOX CAME TO MY DEFENSE. THAT SOMETHING YOU AND I NEVER TALKED ABOUT THAT. MSNBC NEVER CALLED ME A
[03:08] WHISTLE-BLOWER. THEY CALLED ME "CIA LEAKER." SEE AND AN CNN AFTER A YEAR DECID CNN AFTER A YEAR DECIT CNN AFTER A YEAR DECIO CNN AFTER A YEAR DECIC CNN AFTER A YEAR DECIL ME A WHISTLE-BLOWER. IT'S TOUGH BEING A WHISTLE-BLOWER. POLITICAL LINES ARE DRAWN, AND THAT'S REALLY WHERE THESE THINGS USUALLY TURN. WE ARE SEEING THE DEMOCRAT TO THE SAME THING RIGHT NOW WITH THIS CIA OFFICER. THEY ARE TELLING US, IMPOSING UPON US THEIR NOTION THAT THIS PERSON IS A WHISTLE-BLOWER AND HE SIMPLY IS NOT. >> Tucker: I DON'T THINK THERE
[03:39] IS ANY CHANCE THIS PERSON IS GOING TO DO ALMOST TWO YEARS IN PRISON. >> NOT A CHANCE. EVEN HIS ATTORNEY MARK ZAID IS ONE OF THESE CNN INSIDERS. HE'S ATTACHED WITH CIA SECURITY CLEARANCE. IF YOU ARE REPRESENTED BY MARK ZAID AND CLAIMING TO BE IT WAS