[00:00] John one of the things I wanted to talk to you about is your own case because uh people know that you a whistleblower but people may not know that there's been a kind of bipartisan uh refusal to Pardon you for whistleblowing and I it's disgusting you blew the whistle on the CIA torture program and the idea that the only person to pay a price is the person not who engaged in the torture but blew the whistle on it can you shed a little bit of light on the pardon process I applied for a pardon with Barack Obama I was ignored I knew I would be then I applied for pardon from
[00:30] Donald Trump in Trump's first term Rudy Giuliani tried to shake me down for $2 million and I ratted him out to the New York Times but I got that close because Tucker Carlson helped me then on the last day of the Trump presidency Tucker called me and said that Mitch McConnell had said that if Trump pardoned and this was the original idea Assange and Snowden that he couldn't control the Republican caucus in the Senate and that they would probably vote to convict him on the impeachment charges then I go to
[01:02] Biden I'm friendly with a Greek Orthodox priest who is very very close to Joe Biden he said I can help you so I'm getting you know this guy to write a letter and that guy to write a letter and Senator so and so and Congressman what's his name and I got Annette Benning and I got Susan Sarandon and I got a whole Hollywood contingent and then he passed me over and I said to the priest well if I had been a crackhead or a Chinese spy or a judge that sold children into bondage maybe I would have
[01:33] I would have gotten so [ __ ] Joe Biden excuse my language