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[00:04] Okay. Uh this is Brain Power TV and I am here with John Kuryaku. Uh he is the whistleblower who uh uh allowed us to know what was going on with the 9/11 torture program. Um and he has uh agreed to join us today. Welcome John. Thank you Joe. Good to be with you. There is a lot to talk about today. Uh, have you seen the news? Uh, Alex Padilla, Senator Padilla was taken down

[00:36] during a press conference yesterday and this morning we wake up and Iran has been attacked by Israel. What are your thoughts? Yeah, this is uh this is bad. We can get the Padilla thing out of the way relatively quickly. You know, it was funny. He clearly in this video of him being taken down, he clearly says, "I'm US Senator Alex Padilla." Uh, and they they took him down to the ground and cuffed him anyway. Uh, Christine Gnome, who's the Secretary of um of Homeland

[01:06] Security, said that he failed to identify himself. He didn't fail to identify himself. And then the White House said that they were interested in pursuing a prosecution. Well, if he was there at this event in the course of his duties as a senator, uh, he has congressional immunity, so he can't be charged with any crime. They know that. And so today, the White House, this morning, the White House backed off and said that he had charged into the room, which also wasn't true. Uh, that he had

[01:38] actively sought to disrupt uh the event. Also not true. And I think frankly this is a tempest in a teapot and it's going to go away in the next day or so. It's this Iran story that is uh that is so important, so critical for all of us. Uh this is not something that is going to be a tit fortat set of attacks that lasts for a couple of days. This this is war. The Israelis last night killed the top four Iranian military commanders.

[02:10] This was exactly the same strategy that the Israelis used against both Hamas and Hezbollah. Now they've done it with Iran. The Iranian uh ambassador, sorry, the Israeli ambassador to the United Nations this morning said that that Israel's policy as of today is regime change in Iran. It's not up to the Israelis to decide who leads Iran. It's not up to the Israelis to decide who to overthrow because they don't like uh country A or country B's policies. But that's what

[02:40] they said. Now is Iran is a gigantic country both in terms of population and in terms of area and many of its most important nuclear and military facilities are deep underground. There's no indication, especially at Natans, for example, the biggest nuclear facility, that the Israelis were able to uh to damage it in any way. I will say though that there um is a lot of footage running on Israeli television today of

[03:10] residential buildings on fire and civilians having been injured and killed. So this is not something you Donald Trump said that that the Israelis now need to I'm sorry the the Iranians now need to negotiate a deal. There's not going to be any deal here. This is war. Yeah. There's going to be a winner. There's going to be a loser. Yeah. I you know from this to me this looks another preemptive attack from the Israelis to try and you know uh control the narrative. Um, you know, I have no

[03:43] thought that Iran was trying to actually create nuclear weapons. I mean, I'm sure they would like to, but my understanding is they were just trying to enrich to like 5% so they could use power. Well, the the debate was they they had been enriching to 30% which they can also use for power and for experimentation. When the US pulled out of the JCPOA, the Iran nuclear deal, they decided to enrich to 67%. Now, you have to get to 95% for it to be um weapons quality,

[04:15] right? So, they were they've been enriching to 67. The Trump administration has proposed that they remain allowed to enrich up to 67, but once it's enriched, it has to be stored in the United Arab Emirates or in Oman. The Omanis aren't interested. They're happy to facilitate talks, but they don't want to be the repository for enriched uranium. But the Amiradis said that they would do it. The Iranians rejected that. and uh talks

[04:47] are slash were scheduled to resume again tomorrow morning in Muscat. I would be absolutely shocked if those talks went forward because as I said it's it's war and so everything's off the table. Does Iran have Let me add one other thing, Joe, if I if I may. Go ahead. Uh the CIA over the years has published three different national intelligence estimates and all three national intelligence estimates on the Iranian nuclear program have concluded

[05:19] definitively that the Iranians were not interested in developing a nuclear weapon. They were not. Despite what the Israeli government wants us to believe, there's no intelligence to indicate that the Iranians are seeking a nuclear weapon now. The Iranians are enriching Iranian. Do do the Iranian any military real threat to the Israelis? No. No. It's an existential threat. The Israelis, the Israelis have like what 12

[05:50] million people and the Iranians have 80, 90, 100 million people. Yeah. But uh but they're not even near each other. And the Iranians aren't anywhere near as advanced militarily as as the Israelis are. But rather than to allow the United States to engage in negotiations that would be to the benefit of Israel, Benjamin Netanyahu wants the world to believe that the Iranians were all just

[06:20] on the brink of attacking Israel and wiping out, you know, Israel's Jews. And that's just simply not true. There was zero indication of that. The aggressor has always been the Israelis. Yeah, I've seen some drones they launched in response to them invading Lebanon and a couple of the other attacks, but it didn't seem like they posed any real threat except for, you know, a couple casualties here and there and which isn't good but or isn't acceptable, but you know, I mean, the way Israel is behaving in Gaza and going

[06:51] into Lebanon and fighting with Syria, you know, they really seem to be engaging everybody in the region and some carrying out assassinations in Iran, right? And I mean, that's why that's why Why are the Saudis so quiet here? Are they just so do they are they so politically unaligned with Iran that this is, you know, in their wheelhouse of what they want to go down? Well, these the the Saudis have long had absolutely terrible relations with Iran.

[07:22] Absolutely terrible. Even before the 79 revolution in Iran, when the Sha was in power, the Saudis still had very difficult, very troubled relations with Iran. Now they've just started over the last six months to try to normalize things and not just the Saudis but the Bahrainis, the Emiratis and the guties as well. So the Saudis under Muhammad bin Salman want to establish diplomatic relations with with

[07:53] Israel, but they can't do that until the Gaza war is finished and they can try to negotiate something on behalf of the Palestinians. Uh but when it comes to Israel versus Iran, the Saudis just want to be left alone and want to stay out of it. It it's just my understanding like it seems like the Saudis are uh sort of joining you know very slightly Israel side because you know you can't have your do the IPO for your uh

[08:25] oil company which is a $2 trillion by most accounts one of the most valuable companies in the world and let somebody like Goldman Sachs do it which is obviously an Israel aligned company and and you know turn around and say we hate Israel. Oh, sure they can. I I mean I guess they can. But you know what I mean? Does anybody buy it? It doesn't matter though if people buy it or not. If the IPO works and Goldman Sachs is able to do what Goldman Sachs, you know,

[08:57] does for a living. That's all the Saudis care about. They don't care if there are Israeli investors or if the the CEO of Goldman Sachs is pro-Israel. They don't care. They deal with that every single day all around the world. Okay. Okay. Um and so what do you think this is? I mean, do we need to start locking down our arenas? The problem that I have with this Israel attacking Iran and us backing Trump, I should say, backing Israel so unequivocally, like, you know, I mean, anything they do, he's just 100% behind.

[09:30] is that it's going to cause them to hate the West and we're going to end up with arenas bombed or terrorist attacks on American soil. Absolutely. That's absolutely a possibility. And another thing too is that Benjamin Netanyahu has been successful over the years and it's been incremental in convincing much of the Western world, but especially the United States, that if you oppose any of his personal

[10:00] policies, you're anti-semitic, which to me is ridiculous because ridiculous. Most Jews in America aren't even Semitic. They're European Jews that came over during the war. So they have no relationship to anything Seemetic. And if anything, Gazins are Seemetic people anyway, you know, and they speak Arabic. That's exactly right. That's exactly right. So it's like we're held prisoner by the Israelis. And the Democrats are just as guilty of this as the Republicans. I'll give Donald Trump

[10:31] credit though for something. He has been able to walk this tight rope where he is pro- Israel but anti- Netanyahu. And you look at the statement that was issued by Marco Rubio yesterday. It was funny to me that that all of the US news networks said that there's this that there's this statement on Twitter or on X by Secretary of State Marco Rubio as though they've all forgotten that he's also the national security adviser. And really the statement was a national

[11:02] security statement. What's that about him doing those two positions? Has that ever been done before? Yeah. Uh once from 1975 to76, Henry Kissinger was both Secretary of State and National Security Adviser. Okay. So that's not that far out of line. No, but it it's my it's my educated opinion that it's not possible for one man to do both jobs because the national security adviser essentially runs the day-to-day operations of

[11:32] foreign policy, intelligence policy, and defense policy. He's the overall coordinator. And you can't be Secretary of State and above, you know, the CIA director, the DNI, and the Secretary of Defense all at the same time. You just can't do that. But he released the statement saying, you know, we had nothing to do with this. The Israelis did this on their own, and by God, the Iranians better not threaten Americans or American installations. Now, he he had to say that for domestic

[12:03] consumption, and that would have been fine. But then this morning, Donald Trump said a couple of really stupid things. He said, "Oh, this is going to be great for the markets." Well, you know what? It's not. The Dow Jones is down 500 points this morning. And oil is 13%. 700 now. And oil is up 13%. Today in one day. So, no, it's not good for the markets. Oh, no. But then he said that Netanyahu had called him yesterday in advance to tell him that

[12:35] the Israelis were preparing to launch these attacks. Now, do you really believe that? Say that publicly. Oh, yeah. Of course, I believe it. But you don't say it in public. If your official position is we had nothing to do with this and then he admits that he knew about it in advance, why didn't you do anything to stop it? Why didn't you threaten to cut off uh military shipments to the Israelis or loan guarantees? What do you just say? Oh, okay. Uh okay, Benny. Um good luck.

[13:08] Yeah, I you know, I'm not a big fan of him. I think what they're doing over there is crazy. I was looking at the before and after pictures of Gaza and this place is like a resort town and it's no wonder that they want this giant slab of real estate that's right on the Mediterranean. Yeah. It was gorgeous. You know what I mean? I was looking at some of the before pictures and it does not look like a terrorist state that was about to attack Israel and displacing two million people to get to 25,000 people who you knew months in advance were going to attack. They sent them the

[13:39] entire battle plans for this thing and they didn't shore up their borders. Mhm. What's that about? How do you how do you That was a major intelligence failure on the part of the Israelis. Now, there's a school of thought that the Israelis allowed the attack to take place. so that they could go into Gaza. But they don't need any reason to go into Gaza and crackheads. They can do it anytime they want. I think genuinely this was a this was a major intelligence failure on the part of the Israelis. The Israelis were arrogant. They believed that the next attack would be in the West Bank,

[14:10] not in Gaza. They ignored the warning signs and the attack happened. But what's really painful to me is that so many Americans and especially our elected officials believe that the Arab-Israeli conflict began on October 7th, right? And nothing could be further from the truth. Yeah. In fact, they they they uh harassed that guy who won an Oscar in the West Bank. You know, the Israelis going into his house and

[14:40] attacking his uh farm and, you know, throwing rocks at him. And then the IDF came in and arrested him instead of the people who were attacking him. That's exactly right. You know, they seem like, you know, Gaza seems like an ethnic cleansing and the West Bank just seems like they're waiting to overtake it. It doesn't seem like they're I mean, I know from the news they're not even looking at a two-state solution anymore. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. How does Trump discourage people from attending a conference and

[15:11] saying, "Hey, listen. this is not in the West best interest to have a two-state solution. How does he explain that? And how does Europe just sit by and let this happen? Well, they're actually doing more than we are. Um so Ireland months ago, at least six months ago, um recognized Palestine as an independent country. And that was amazing. Yeah. The Israelis withdrew their ambassador. Then there was a letter that was signed by a bunch of European Union countries, the the Romanians, the Italians,

[15:44] a handful, um saying that the Israelis needed to back off in Gaza and allow uh the free flow of food and water and medicine or they were going to sanction Israeli leaders and um and recognize Palestine. So the Europeans are far more advanced than we are in terms of development of their Israel policy. We just take whatever the Israelis tell us and we do nothing except support Israel. Nothing. But is

[16:16] there a chance that anybody from any of the European nations is going to step in over there? No. No shot at all. Nobody's going to roll in with UN tanks or the British aren't going to roll in and sail into Gaza and say, "Hey, listen. We're taking over." No. Not in a million years. Why? Just because they don't want to piss off the West or because No, you can't just arbitrarily invade other countries, especially Allied countries. Well, I get it, but it's really technically not their country.

[16:50] Their governments recognize it as as part of Israel. Yeah. All these countries recognize Israel. Okay. So they basically they're all accepting that the West Bank and Gaza is all just basically Israel at this point. No, they're recognizing that the that the West Bank and Gaza are occupied by Israel with uh with the details to be determined later over negotiations, right? Which will never happen. Most

[17:20] likely not, right? And the UN can't do anything like there's no meeting of the UN Security Council to try and No, because the US would veto any any UN Security Council resolution because we do whatever Netanyahu tells us to do. And how a resolution just two weeks ago calling for a so do how do they get this I mean I I don't want to go into Epstein really too much here as a scandal here, but how did they get this kind of control here? You know what I mean? I've

[17:51] long known that, you know what I mean? Epstein, you know, got in control of Victoria's Secret and that's sort of the the funnel to catch, you know, most of Hollywood, you know what I mean? Controlling where those girls go and who they date and, you know, who gets the million-doll, you know, modeling gig, you know what I mean? And I always thought that a huge model for him, Leslie. The ugly truth is that the Israelis have been very, very smart in financing Apac. and not just not just financing Apac to get their side of the

[18:23] story out there, but but they they um involve themselves in House and Senate races, in the presidential race, in the the choices of of judges, in every facet of government. Um they are by far the most powerful lobbying group in Washington by far. Now, are they printing money and dumping it into like Jewish run companies in the US to prop up the value and create more Jewish billionaires so they can get I

[18:55] just saw Google bought an Israeli company for $30 billion cash in 100% cash deal, which means the Israeli governments get 10 billion in taxes off that. Um, you know what I mean? And it just occurred to me. I just saw that Google just bought an AI company out of Israel for 30 billion in cash, which seems, you know, a lot for an allcash deal. Hello. Yeah, I I I don't know what you're talking about. Oh, Google bought some company out of Israel for 30

[19:26] billion cash and it just the timing seemed like it was a money dump to Israel. That's all. You know what I mean? Yeah, but that's not how the world works. Okay. I mean, you know, I didn't know if there was any sort of because the founders of Google are both, you know, um, Jewish and have been pro- Israel for quite a while. But anyway, uh, let's move on to the California thing that's going on here, uh, with Alex Padilla now. Is this going to be the new norm where we're taking down senators and we're messing up Home

[19:57] Depot raids and throwing in the National Guard and the Marines? Sure. Sure. For the next three and a half years at least. Yeah. This is the policy. This is one thing Americans, this this drives me crazy. Donald Trump does exactly what he tells us he's going to do, right? So people are like shocked. Oh my god, he's rounding up the refugees. Oh my god, he's been This is exactly what he told us he was going to do in the in the campaign, right? So why is anybody shocked? It's a policy change. He said

[20:31] he was going to do it. Now he's doing it. The only recourse is to go to the courts, figure it out later. But yeah, for the for the time being, this is this is how it's going to be. I I mean, but I mean, does he have the I mean, obviously they're going to fight this out in the courts, but is he manufacturing this war with uh California to sort of keep himself in the media? Of course he is. The we're talking about a three square block area in central Los Angeles. If you watch Fox

[21:02] News, it looks like half of California is on fire and they keep running the same video on a loop of this one car on fire on the 101. Okay. Limo. Yeah. Yeah. So, yeah. I mean, yeah. I mean, it it's not I'm here, you know. I mean, I live in Santa Monica, so I can tell you it's not happening here yet. But, you know, by manufacturing this crisis, he now creates even more protests because people don't want it to happen. And now you have time for the bad actors to

[21:33] organize and start, you know, the rioting or Antifa or whoever it is to get involved. My understanding is this was a a miscalculation how many, you know, Spanish people were near a Home Depot when they started these raids and they all came out of their houses and started protesting, you know, and now it's turned into we've got 800 Marines, 3,000 National Guards, and a curfew in LA. No, a curfew just in that central part of LA. Well, yes. All right. Yes. It's a

[22:04] curfew in downtown, you know, the three block the onem radius in downtown LA. Yeah. There's this is a manufactured scandal. There's nothing there's nothing really going on. Listen, I'm of two minds of this. The truth is, if you are here and you're not documented, that's a crime. That's a violation of the US code. Absolutely. I believe that, too. when they come in and they say these people aren't committing any crimes except for being in the country illegally. Yeah. Um now with that said, back in 20201,

[22:36] well in 2001, the George W. Bush administration negotiated a deal with the Mexican government that would have legalized everybody. You would be given a work visa that would allow you to stay in the United States for 9 months. you would pay taxes and then you would go back to your home country, reapply and then come back three months later. And the only reason that that wasn't implemented was because 9/11 happened. But it was a good idea and it it would have worked. And I think that Donald Trump made a mistake. Well, not just

[23:06] Donald Trump, but Barack Obama and Donald Trump and Joe Biden and Donald Trump again have made a mistake by not seeking to either re-implement or or not re-implement to implement or to renegotiate that agreement. You know that old saying, when you're a hammer, everything looks like a nail. And that's the position we find ourselves in now. Okay. Um well, so where do we go from here? Is this going to start happening in other states or is this just strictly a

[23:37] manufactured crisis between the Democrats of California and the Republicans of, you know, the Trump administration? Oh, no. I I think it's going to start spreading. There are more than a dozen um pro-immigrant um demonstrations that are scheduled for today and tomorrow all across America, right? Uh, and here in DC, we have this outlandish uh, military parade that's taking place tomorrow on Donald Trump's birthday. Yeah, I wanted to talk to you about that next. What do you think about

[24:08] spending $100 million on this? Yeah, it's foolish. It's a vanity project. On his birthday, no less. Yeah. And listen, I I drove from I drove from Arlington, Virginia this morning to Washington. It took me twice as long as it normally does because every major road is closed and there are tanks everywhere and armored personnel carriers everywhere and they're planning jet overflights and helicopter overflights and it's it's just nuts. But

[24:39] there are also going to be protesters against the parade. So things could get kind of spicy in Washington tomorrow. And then there are going to be these dozen other demonstrations all around the country. I got to tell you, uh, and Disney did this, and I don't know if they meant to do it, but if you've seen this new, uh, Daredevil Born Again series, um, there's a villain called Kingpin, and he's, uh, you know, a big, uh, mafia crime guy, and he becomes mayor of New York City in the

[25:10] new show, but it has a lot of parallels to the Trump administration of how he's sort of come in and, you know what I mean, sort of like with Christy Gnome, like Padilla is a senator. There's only two of those for each state. She knew who he was. She works for him. If he was a house of representative and there's 500 of them, I'd say, "All right." But there's only 50 senators and he's in his home state coming in and he's getting, you know, knocked down to the floor in handcuffs. I just think that's sort of a totalitarian government. I agree. And I'll tell you what, if I

[25:42] were a senator and they treated me that way, I would immediately freeze the Department of Homeland Security's budget. I would object I'd put in a a private senator's uh objection to every senior appointee in the Department of Homeland Security until I got satisfaction. I can't imagine that uh the Senate won't, you know, vote on this and bring this up and just because even no senator is going to want to be treated like this, you know, but the Democrats don't

[26:12] control the Senate, so they don't get to decide what comes up for a vote. I know, but I can't imagine at least not a couple Republicans sort of faltering on saying, "Hey, maybe we should talk about this." No, there's nothing for them to gain from it. Trump's just running everything that tight, huh? I've never in my life seen the legislative branch so willingly give up its power and authority to the executive branch. It's quite incredible. You know, the Constitution is very clear that the

[26:43] three branches of government are co-equals until they're not. And right now they're not. Well, like I voted for Trump. Honestly, I thought we were going to get a different Trump than we got. um you know this whole tariff thing and you know it basically his tariff thing is just blowing up and turning into another tax on goods. Um you know I mean his pro-Israel stance was you know he recognized Jerusalem last time but you know he wasn't super pro-Israel in his

[27:14] first term at least from my opinion. You know what I mean? Like things didn't really Sure he was. He moved the embassy to Jerusalem. Well I saw that but you know that's that just seemed like common sense to me. You know what I mean? like it didn't we didn't we didn't recognize Jerusalem as the capital. Why would we have moved the embassy there? But but Jerusalem has been the capital though, right? For decades. Not according to us. The capital of Israel was Tel Aviv. Okay. From when

[27:44] Harry Truman was president, the capital of Israel was Tel Aviv and that's where the American embassy was. Okay. Where does the Israeli government function out of? Well, it functioned out of Jerusalem, but almost every comp country in the world kept its embassy in Tel Aviv because the idea was everybody can move to Jerusalem when there's a peace treaty with the Palestinians. Oh, is that is that what they're trying to hold over their head? Okay. Yeah, I wasn't sure about that. You know, I

[28:15] mean, I know that there was Jerusalem is supposed to be an open city, and that was sort of why they didn't want to, you know, take it. Well, that that was the that was the proposal. It's not an open city at all. No, no, not anymore. It's a very heavily occupied city, right? They're never giving up Jerusalem again. No, let's not. You know what I mean? Short of, you know, and I I do you think that uh Gaza is going to come up in the next election and the Israeli stance because there are a lot more Muslims in

[28:45] this country than there used to be? And we've seen that in politics a lot that you know where and that's why the Democrats lost Michigan, right? um and maybe even Pennsylvania because they just would not budge on their 100% pro-Israel uh policy. They just wouldn't budge. Yeah. You see AOC and a couple of these other people really catering to the Muslims and and you know they they seem to be gaining a lot of traction.

[29:17] Yes. Like the the Muslim citizens we do have like voted 100% when they decide there's something they want to vote on. Yeah, that's right. That's right. And they were very very influential in places like uh Michigan and uh and New Jersey. Now, I've been trying to open a venue here in California, you know, a Los Angeles artist series, and you know, as soon as the war with Gaza broke out, you know, our plans for that completely upgraded the security, you know what I

[29:48] mean? Putting uh glass sculptures outside that would act as blast walls that would have been made of stuff. How do we need to prepare? Because this is what drove 911, not only 911, but the first attack in 2001. And how does do we need to prepare the US? Because this is, you know, not Gaza anymore. Now you're talking about Iran, Syria, Lebanon. We're letting the entire Middle East get run get run over by Israel. Yeah, we are. And that's going to create

[30:20] a generational, you know, level of hate throughout that whole area for the US. You know, I was having lunch with a friend of mine in New York a couple of weeks ago and there were these two elderly ladies sitting at the table next to us and um they were listening to our conversation. We were talking about this situation with the Israelis and the Palestinians. And one of the ladies, they were both in their 80s, they told us later. One of them said um that they're both Jewish, that they've lived their entire lives in

[30:52] New York, and they've never seen anything like the current situation. And they said that that while they're both Jewish and they're both pro-Israel, they believed that Benjamin Netanyahu's policies were encouraging anti-semitism, that his policies were so reactionary that they were encouraging or leading people to hate Israel. I 100% believe that you see the Israeli I mean there's Jewish Americans all over the news

[31:24] screaming and yelling that you know uh that what the the Israelis are doing is inhumane and you know I mean all right they attacked you and you leveled their country but you know continuing this uh occupation and uh killing children and you know God knows how many victims they have that are innocent victims over there. Right. Right. And they literally turned it into a demolition site. You know what I mean? It looks like I mean to say it, it looks like the Pacific Palisades after the fire over there.

[31:55] Yeah, exactly. And you know, they're saying that's not livable at all. You know, so you know, you have to remediate it. You've got to take all the asbestos and all the lead and everything else that's been dispersed by the fires and the wind and obviously the bomb, you know, the explosive residue and everything else that causes cancer. I mean, anybody who moves into that area in the next 25 years is probably going to have a huge cancer rate. That's exactly right. That's exactly right. you know, and

[32:26] honestly, I mean, I I think the Israelis knew that they had that cache of weapons and they sort of let it happen because they said, you know what, they may not be attacking us, but let's sort of incite something because if we don't get rid of it now, we're never going to get rid of it. Everybody's starting to get comfortable with Gazin, starting to think that there's no problems over here. So, let's let this happen. We'll go get public support, which I don't think happened as much as they thought it would. And I or they they had it and

[32:56] lost it when they started starving families to death, right? You know, I mean, when all of a sudden ambulance drivers and blowing up hospitals and then denying food and water to the ones who survived. Well, what made it seem funny to me was they got attacked on October 7th, but by October 8th, they released the press release that they had already bombed 500 locations of Hamas. Now, how do you not know attacks coming on October 7th and then have 500 locations on October 8th that you've

[33:28] already bombed? You'd be surprised. You'd be surprised. Those are called offtheshelf operations. So, they're operations that are always always planned in advance in case things go to hell real quickly. Five. Sure. Sure. Sure. You have you have thousands of targets in the offing. I mean, isn't God only like 10 miles long? Yeah. So that's, you know, I mean, essentially bombing almost the whole country. Yeah. You know, immediately carpet bombing. Hey, listen. Uh, you know, we

[33:59] had a 500 spots located. It just seemed like, you know, a thousand people crossing the border. Don't they have walls and stuff? Why don't they build a bigger wall of Portland? Because then they can't go in. No, but then they have I mean the Yeah, sure. That's true, too. Um, but there are there there's an extensive tunnel system, right? Yeah. Yeah. Palestinians. Anyway, um, so, uh, let's see what else is going on here. So, obviously this parade is happening

[34:30] tomorrow. They say it's because of the 250th anniversary of the army. Um, but you obviously think it's more of a vanity project. Oh, yeah. There's no reason to have it. We we had one when we won the Gulf War back in 1991 and that was a stupid waste of money and it totally wrecked the the streets. Just wrecked them. Those tanks are so heavy. They just grind up the the streets, right? And it's going to happen again. So everything is going to have to be repaved. It's a huge expense. And

[35:00] there's just no reason to do something like that. Is there any sort of international policy benefit? you know, the way Putin rolls his tanks down or Kim Jong-un. I mean, I I know Trump likes to think of himself as, you know what I mean? You know, whatever his ego, but, you know, is there any military benefit by, you know, pulling all this stuff out? It doesn't seem like we're throwing out our best stuff anyway. No, it's just a feel-good project. Yeah. It's a public relations things for the nationalist inside the country so Trump

[35:31] can sort of gain favor, right? Okay. Um, and you what do you think the stock market's going to do with this? The stock market hates it. The stock market hates instability and as long as as Iran and Israel are going at it and it's unclear to the rest of the world what the endgame is, we're going to see just terrible volatility. Okay.

[36:04] Terrible. What is the endgame? The Israelis today said regime change. So what's that mean? They're going to use nukes. They have them. Yeah. I I I'm not in favor of this Iran thing at all. You know, I mean, they were at the table negotiating. You know, Israel just comes in and says like, "Hey, listen. This isn't acceptable." You know what I mean? You know, and you know, why do they get to say that? You know what I mean? like it just seems, you know, and then they suddenly have our backing. Um, you know,

[36:36] and one thing I noticed, and you can tell me if I'm a conspiracy theorist or not, but during the right before both these attacks started in the Ukraine and in Israel, Biden was having a serious down. You know, one of them I think with uh Ukraine or with Israel was uh he was reversing his border policy on the border and finally saying, "Hey, listen. Um you know, we made a mistake. We need to shut the border. We got too many immigrants down." And the papers were

[37:06] roasting him. You know, the media was like, "Oh yeah, they're killing." They were just killing him. And it went on for about 24 hours and then I think October 7th broke out. Um, yeah. And and honestly, I if I remember right, the same thing happened with the Ukraine. Like both of these seemed incredibly well timed to protect the Biden administration. Any chance that that's any truth to that? No. And I'll tell you why. It's because Joe Biden and Benjamin Netanyahu hated each other. And they

[37:37] hated each other going back to the very beginning of the of the Obama administration. Is that because he's the Israelis would have done anything to protect Joe? Catholic or No, just because he's not blindly pro- Netanyahu. Okay. Well, you figure, you know, there's only been what? Kennedy and Biden are the only two Catholics who have been president in the last 100 years, right? Uh yeah, I mean, you know, that's, you know, it just that that's what I thought. You know, maybe there was some

[38:08] sort of connection there. Uh so anything else going on in inter relations that you see happening here to follow after this? No, it's very very busy and very volatile right now. Okay. And let me this so what kind of things are you up to now that uh obviously you're looking for your pardon? Yeah, I'm asking President uh Trump to pardon me and um working on my ninth book. My eth book is coming out very soon and I've got columns in Covert

[38:40] Action Magazine and Consortium News. Um I'm speaking all over the world. I have speeches in um Iceland and u and uh Spain in the next two weeks. You we're coming to LA. Are you you still doing that or not? It's going to take a little while. Yeah. But I'll I'll get there. Okay. Yep. Um, but uh what's the book about? Um, I I wrote a book about the about the historic cemeteries of Washington DC and

[39:12] the publisher liked it so much that they commissioned four more. So, I'm doing one on the mafia graves of New York City, the historic cemeteries of Chicago, the country western graves of Nashville, and the graves of American serial killers. I know somebody you have to talk to. He's a guy who uh he's like the foremost restorer of cemetery headstones in the country. He did the oldest one they have down in Washington at that church. Uh the Knights Tombstone.

[39:43] His name is John something. I forgot the his last name at the top of my head, but I I'll definitely send you an email and refer you over to him. He's done he does a tour every year. It's called the 48 state tour, and he goes around teaching people to uh how to restore headstones. cemeteries and but he's been he's done like 50 of the oldest graveyards like they hire him to come in and do them and you know I mean there's a big Wikipedia page on the Knights tombstone and everything man it's it's pretty

[40:13] incredible the Knights in Washington DC it's uh it's called the Knight's Tombstone it's a tombstone from 164 something was like from the first uh settlement in James it's not DC it's in Jamestown out Virginia. Um, and they have it during that in that first settlement they had in Jamestown, the original church, they found the tomb for the first guy who was like governor there. Or at least that's who they think it is. And the tombstone

[40:45] was transported from like uh quarry in Belgium went to England and came all the way over to America because it was this super type of granite and they had carbon dated and done all these tests on it and uh they you know I mean there's a big display as part of the Jamestown exhibit now with this uh this huge granite thing. It it's somebody I got to put you in touch with. But uh Excellent. Yeah. and and I want to talk to you once we're done with the interview too about something else. But um but yeah, uh so

[41:19] you're speaking everywhere, you're doing that. Um and the pardon, you know what I mean? How's that going? You seeing any luck with Trump? It's impossible to say. You just never know. You know, he'll wake up and pardon two dozen people and then he'll go months without pardoning anybody. It's It's just not possible to say. Yeah. I mean, you know, you're doing a lot of TV and stuff like that and that seems to help. You know what I mean? He uh you know he seems to like people who are he can recognize from the media. Mhm. Um he just I mean what do

[41:50] you think about that? The Rod Badatovich and the Chris Christie or Chris Christie parties and stuff like that. Oh uh Bluyovich yeah was deserving of a pardon. I I don't believe he actually committed a crime. He talked about committing a crime and then he got 14 years for having a conversation about selling a Senate seat. 14 years. It just goes to how ridiculous our our criminal justice system is. So they

[42:21] didn't actually get any evidence. It was Chicago, so I didn't really pay attention, but they didn't get any evidence of him actually trying to sell the seat. No, he talked about selling it. Okay. See, you learn new things every day. Um, all right. Uh, anything else you want to bring up here? No, good to talk to you.