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[00:02] Good afternoon. Uh, thanks for joining us. You're watching Drogram with me, Ted R, and John Kuryaku. John, always good to see you. >> Good to see you, Ted. >> Greetings from Salt Lake City, Utah. >> Oh, good, good. I love Salt Lake City, actually. U have I hope things are going well out there. Uh, I have a feeling I know what you're doing there, but you know, >> work, work, and more work. >> Always, always, >> always work. >> Lots to talk about today. So, uh, we should just I'm just going to give everyone a preview of the show. Thanks everyone for joining us. Um, we are now

[00:34] fully monetized on Rumble thanks to you guys. We'll be >> amazing. Amazing. Amazing in one day. So, thank you everybody. Thank you very much. Incredible >> indeed. And, uh, please continue to like, follow, and share the show. Uh, we're here Monday, Wednesday, Friday at 5:00 PM Eastern time. Uh, in a couple of weeks we'll be going to Monday through Friday schedule, same time, 5:00 pm. So, uh, you know, you got this show is growing by leaps and bounds. Thanks to you guys. You guys are awesome. Thank you. All right. Lots to talk about. I don't know what order we're going to do it in because I always have an order in

[01:04] mind, but we end up just talking. May I suggest something? Actually, >> I hope you don't mind if I interrupt you. Not at all. >> One one hour ago, >> Gileain Maxwell was transferred to a minimum security >> uh prison in Texas. And the transfer was confirmed by the >> the Bureau of Prisons. I how why would this possibly happen? I mean, I I'm I'm speechless. I don't

[01:35] even know what to say. It It seems like some sort of a a quid proquo, right? >> Well, what I've the best I've been able to I did a lot of reading on this and the best explanation I was able to garner was pos cooperating witnesses sometimes can negotiate this sort of thing. This is they call this a clubfed type situation. That's right. And as you've pointed but you pointed out, I mean, so she's a cho, right? She's a child molester by definition, convicted. She can't sue us for it because it's

[02:05] true. Uh at least a jury of her peers determined it to be true. >> That's right. >> So, um she but normally they're in minimum, right? You've explained that before. >> Normally they're in low >> low. >> They're not eligible for minimum >> between low and minimum. minimum has no uh bars on the windows, no locks on the doors. You're free to come and go as you please. You're just on your honor, not to abscond. Um >> it's like a dorm. It's like a campus situation. >> Yeah, exactly. They're the ones that

[02:36] will will drive um higher security prisoners to the doctor's office or, you know, along with with guards. They'll tend the the garden in the wardens on the warden's property. They're the trustees is what it comes down to. And and a lot of them in the prison where I was in um a lot of them uh worked janitorial jobs in the at the university in the in the town, but you can't trust if somebody's been

[03:06] accused or been convicted of a child sex crime, by definition, they're not allowed in a minimum security camp. Would minimum security camp be a prequel to uh an earlier release than >> it? Almost always is. Yes. So, here's the rule with that. Most people short of murder or something incredibly violent or what's called what's called level 40 on the sentencing scale. That's like El Chapo, for example. >> Okay. If you're below that,

[03:39] um, with good behavior and the passage of time, you work your way down from a maximum to a medium to a low to a minimum and then they let you go. >> So, you're not allowed to be in a low if you have more than 20 years on your sentence, unless you're a cho and then for your own safety, you're in the low. >> Okay? Once you get under 10 years, you can transfer into the minimum

[04:10] unless you're a chomo, in which case you're not allowed in the minimum. So, so she defies this rule in two different ways. She has 20 years and she's a chomo. So, how in the world did she wake up today and get transferred to a minimum security camp? >> Well, so let's speculate. Um, you know, if you listened to everything we've said on this show so far and you bet on it in Vegas, you're rich. We've been on a roll lately. Yeah. >> So, uh, let's let's see if we can keep that going here. Is she going to get out

[04:43] and if so, what kind of deal did she cut and why? I mean, it's so hard to figure out, you know, what the Trump administration DOJ is on about here, right? I mean, it seems like first they were going to be transparent. Then they looked like they're indel in wallowing in a full-fledged cover up. They kicked the House of Representatives home early. >> Yeah. >> To to cover it up. But now, if she's making a deal, the deal is is not for her to stay. >> Yes. >> It's not for her to be quiet. It's her to talk. Or is it?

[05:14] [Music] >> That's what it sounds like. That's what it seems like. She's cut some sort of a deal. Now, nobody's going to say what the deal is. Now, the deal could be, "I will talk to you and testify if you don't charge me with any new crimes, and by the way, I want to go to a camp." And then she's going to be in the camp for the next 17 years. Or I'll tell you whatever you want to know if you give me a pardon or a

[05:46] commutation. Oh, and by the way, I don't want to go back to that low security because uh I don't I don't like the the times moves. I want to go to a camp. We we don't >> Or or is it we want you to go out and confirm the story we've told the world, which was that it was only Jeffrey? >> That's right. That's right. >> I mean, it was only Jeffrey. >> And I think I think Bam. That's it, >> man. I don'tide myself. >> What else could it be, though, right? I

[06:16] mean, it's not like she's going to come out. She's she's they're they're letting her out to cut a deal to say, "Oh, and by the way, Trump was there, right?" Or, "Oh, by the way, Bill Clinton was there." I mean, maybe Bill Clinton, but not you know what I mean? >> Just stunning. I just can't believe it. Virginia Duffy's family was on uh >> Oh, yeah. >> I was watching CNN on the plane >> and and they were I mean, they were like on the brink of tears. Every one of them. >> They couldn't believe it. >> No, they couldn't believe it. So, yeah. So, so she's probably going to get out,

[06:47] right? Better than 50/50. >> I would I would put it at better than 50/50. Yes. If only because this president is so unpredictable when it comes to commutations and pardons. And, you know, for 95% I I I'm I'm all for it. I'm I'm hoping he does more, including me. But, uh but this one this one's a a kick in the gut. Well, I mean it would this would pretty much Well, here's a question, right? Let's let's say she we're right. She

[07:18] gets out. She confirms the official narrative that we heard from AG uh Bondi. Does that get Magaw World off Trump's back or does it get enough of Magaw World off his back that he can start to chill and think about other things? >> That's a good question. But did you happen to see on Fox yesterday their um their new polls? So the polls have Democrats like 93-7 they want her to rot in prison

[07:50] >> and independents were like 7327 and then Republicans were 50/50. So I think we're quickly getting to the point where Donald Trump doesn't care. He doesn't care what Democrats and independents are saying about this >> mag he never cares what they think at all. >> Yeah. I mean, >> the world's coming around to it. >> He's proven something that I've been saying for years is that there are no moderates. There are no fence sitters. There are no swing voters. There's only

[08:20] base voting. Democrats haven't figured it out yet. >> Yeah. >> They they think there's still a mysterious swing voter out there. >> Yeah, that's right. >> Out like this. >> Let's just sit sit with this for like 10 seconds. then literally no one will have been punished or held to account for Jeffrey Epstein except Jeffrey Epstein who theoretically held himself to account theoretically. >> Yeah. I think that's the painful truth right there. That's what it is.

[08:50] >> Wow. Okay. Well, that's and >> it kind of reminds me of the torture program. Like the only guy who went to prison was the guy who who blew the whistle on the torture program. But that's just me. I'm biased. >> Yeah, you're so bitter, John. Why don't you just move on? Why don't you just put it past you, Zen? Oh, >> that's what I need. And I need my gun back. Gun back. >> I'm not sure you should have your gun

[09:21] back right now. Not Not in the next hour, anyway. All right. So, we'll we'll keep we'll keep up uh we'll keep people up to up to date on that. By the way, other break late breaking news. Um so uh you know usually when presidents get bad get bad jobs numbers they cry into and uh maybe they call the Fed. Uh this time uh you know kill the messenger. He decided to throw the head of the Bureau of Labor Statistics down a well. Trump has fired the chief of the Bureau of Labor Statistics. Um which is

[09:52] >> I laughed out loud when I read it. >> It's hilarious. I mean, first of all, it, you know, you have to think when you get that job as like a statistician, like you went to like MIT and you're a stat, you're a statistics expert. You're like, I'm working for the government. Yeah, but it's the safest job in Washington. Who's going to fire me? All I do is crunch numbers. I mean, >> well, things change. >> Um, do we want to talk? Do we want to talk about that? Do we care? Sure. There's plenty more to talk about.

[10:24] >> Yeah. Um, I don't mean to laugh, but it's just so absurd that I can't help it to laugh. >> No, I mean it it's look, it's obviously wrong. I mean, the funny part is, of course, that this just the jobs numbers have been manipulated for years, right? There's the question like if you gave up looking for work, you're not counted as unemployed anymore. If it's a certain amount of time that you've been unemployed, you're not counted un as unemployed. They calculate the um you know a lot of other statistics as well,

[10:54] the size of the labor participation uh rate, but all of that for all of their shenanigans, these are usually political decisions that come from people like President Trump. Um it's not they're not, you know, they're just crunching the numbers over there. I mean, as far as I know, there's never ever been the slightest accusation, much less evidence, that anyone in her position or her, has ever done what Trump is accusing her of. She should sue. She should sue. >> She should sue. The numbers are the numbers. That's it.

[11:26] >> That's it. It's It's really as simple as that. It's They just put it into the >> You think this is going to get the the the stock traders off his ass? The bond traders, >> right? I mean, the market I've been so busy I haven't I haven't seen it since it closed, but it was down Well, it's down seven. >> What did it fall to? >> It was down a full percent. Um >> Yeah, that that that was the last I I had seen. it was down a full percent after having been down almost 2%. >> But that was also because of the uh the tar the tariffs and uh yeah the new

[11:56] tariffs on Canada. >> By the way uh you know I didn't put this in to talk about but I thought it was worth noting the econ even the threat of the tariffs against Lotho >> literally destroyed the Lothan economy. Trump uh threatened 50% tariffs only imposed the 15 that he imposed on everyone else. Nevertheless, uh just the mere threat of that tanked the the all these factories that were forced to close um just because Trump didn't understand the nature of the economy. Well, South is a welfare state and

[12:26] basically Congress a while ago basically had put zero tariffs on them just to encourage them to sell like, you know, textiles and other trinkets to the American market. You know, stuff that would show up at tier one imports, that kind of stuff. And and of course, and then Trump just looks at the numbers. It's like, we have a trade deficit. They don't buy anything from us. Oh, they'd love to. They're just broke. They don't have any money at all. >> They're among the poorest people in the world, >> right? And so people, they're just heartbroken and desperate now. They don't even know how they're going to eat. It's just a reflection of how, you know, the unintended consequences of

[12:58] someone who's just sort of like making decisions quickly without really non-reflexively uh you know, can can these things can play out. Um, so yeah, the market, you know, Bill Clinton in his uh biography, autobiography, he said it's not a very good book. I don't recommend it. But >> you know why? Because he wrote it himself. >> Oh, did he? >> Yeah. >> It's not a good book. I read it, too, and it was like, >> and I love presidential autobiography. >> Me, too. He should have he should have hired a ghostriter. >> The best ones are Grant and Truman, in

[13:29] my opinion. Um, >> agreed. Grant is epic. >> Not a president. Cordell Hull, former Secretary of State. His is excellent too. Fantastic. Anyway, point is that uh in in Clinton's book though, one of the things that I thought was really interesting is he said, you know, I really thought I was elected president of the United States, but I was really elected president of the bond market. I spent all of my time thinking about the bond market. I'm sure that hasn't changed. >> No, 100%. I think that's exactly right. That's exactly right. you know, um he's

[14:02] the last couple of days he's made additional threats besides against the Canadians, which we saw in the Canadians responded to, but against Brazil. You know, he's been trying to get these impeachment proceedings and criminal charges dropped against U. President uh what was his name? The former president of Brazil before Lula um whatever his name was, the Trump guy. And um am I still shadowbanned? I don't think that's true. >> I was, but I don't think I am anymore.

[14:32] >> No, because I found you a couple days ago and everything came up no problem. >> Oh, good. Yeah, Bossaro. Um, they're just letting, you know, the the criminal justice system do its thing. And now, in addition to having put sanctions on the on the judge in the case, now they're talking about adding tariffs on Brazil unless the Brazilians drop the drop the charges. It's nuts. >> Well, and let's not forget, we're going

[15:03] to be talking about Gaza. We can talk about Gaza now, but um Trump also hiked up the san um the tariffs on Canada because for as retaliation for recognizing Palestine. >> Yeah, it's crazy. >> I mean, >> after after having said what, a week ago when they said that they were thinking of doing it or maybe it was at the G7, um he said, um I respect that. I won't do it, but I respect that. Well, actually, he doesn't respect that.

[15:34] >> Yeah. Yeah. It's It's crazy. Um, well, shall we get into uh Oh, we should get in. There's so much to talk about Gaza, right? So, >> Oh my god. Yeah. >> In uh No. Well, before we do that, let's talk. Let's uh bring in producer Robbie on to Yes. One more pitch here to Right. We promise we're not going to do this every single show, but until we have the numbers cooking, we have to do this. So, very quickly, producer Robbie West, thank you so much for coming on. Uh, please explain to the good folks

[16:04] watching on YouTube why it would be awesome for John and I if uh with some of if they were to migrate over to Rumble to watch. >> Well, well, to migrate or at least just go over there and hang out and chat and such. So, to make this short and sweet, basically, for every quarter that YouTube will pay uh Ted and John, now they're in their now that they are in the creator program, Rumble will pay them over a dollar. >> It's crazy. >> So, it's kind of a dumb way to kind of

[16:36] to kind of break it down, but the gist of it is it's all about paying the bills, folks. Uh the Biden regime, they killed their jobs. I mean, y'all know what's I mean, everyone needs to have money, right? You gota have money to pay your bills. You got to have money to live. Uh, YouTube YouTube will pay a little bit. Rumble pays a whole hell of a lot more. And the best part about it is that Rumble pays you based off of >> John's got legal bills up the ass. >> Oh my god. >> And and Yeah. And I' I've been living off my savings since last September when Biden fired us.

[17:06] >> Yeah. And I mean, that's what it's all about, right? So, Rumble is a free speech platform. It is alternative to YouTube. Rumble also pays significantly better. And y'all going to see that in action here in just a little bit because Rumble's actually giving us ads that we're able to to put out on ourselves that then go directly in to John's and Ted's coffers. So, one of the things I'm going to be doing is going through just putting in just videos addition to live streams. And really all we ask is that if you go over there, if you follow them

[17:36] on Rumble, just know if you watch them there. Watch hours on YouTube mean nothing. Watch hours mean the world over on Rumble. It's like TV. If a if a TV show is high ratings, you get paid more. Rumble's the exact same way. And lastly, Rumble will let them say things that YouTube will not allow them to say because there's going to be at least five hours a month of what they call Rumble Premium of Content where it's only going to be available on Rumble.

[18:08] And these these two fellas already don't have much of a filter. They'll have no filter whenever they're live on Rumble. So, if you want to hear just live unbarnished truth, make the jump over to Rumble. >> All right, Robbie, thank you so much. And thank you guys for listening to all that. Um, >> thank you. >> And and Robbie, when you're ready, we'll read that first ad. Go ahead and put it up when you're ready. Um, all right. So, let me take Robbie out of here. Okay. So, Pal, uh, Gaza Palestine. So, it's hard to know where to start. 147 people

[18:38] have died of famine according to the Gaza Health Ministry. As always, we must point out that contrary to what the Zionists say. That's not an overcount. It is a radical underount because in order to be counted, they have to have your um they have to have your full name, your body, your age, your ID number, and your occupation. And you know, if you died somewhere else, they're not bringing and you don't go to the hospital, they don't count you. If you if you die in a basement somewhere, they don't count you. So, uh and also

[19:09] you don't really count if you died of something else that's maybe hunger related, like you succumb to an illness that you might have survived if you were stronger. So, 147 dead of famine. Uh let's go ahead and read this ad very quickly. Uh all right. All right, anglers. If you're ready to fish remote lakes or quiet rivers in total stealth mode, check out the Nevada Fishing Float Tube from Catis Sports. This U-shaped beast is built for serious fishing missions. Ultra stable, ultra maneuverable, and tough as nails thanks to heavyduty riptop material and double

[21:43] like the UK may have been the lynch pin for Germany, >> right? I don't know. Um certainly the UK is was the lynch pin to Canada and now for Australia. >> Yes, I was just going to say that. And you know, I'm I'm wondering too, the German leadership is weak, as weak as it's been in a in decades, and I'm wondering if they don't want to be sort of left behind at the dance, and so they're considering jumping in.

[22:14] Now, the Washington Post this morning had a graphic. It was a map of the world, and it showed all the um all the countries that have diplomatic relations with Palestine and the countries that don't. Well, the countries that don't were the US, Canada, and the European Union. Everybody else in the world has diplomatic relations with Palestine. So, this is very big news for us. It's not so big for the rest of the world because they're wondering, you know, what's taken you guys so long, but maybe finally, you know, there's going to be

[22:45] some way to help Palestinians. So, John, I you know, I've been thinking a little bit about like, you know, my friends who are pro-Zionist um are saying, "Well, this isn't a big deal." You know, there's there's no state really to recognize because there's no n there's no real there's not even one government to recognize. Uh there may be that the one that they do recognize is corrupt and broken. Yeah. What's the point here? And I think the point here is that the symbolism is going to have profound economic consequences. I was thinking, you know, just yesterday, what

[23:17] if I got a job offer to go draw cartoons for the Times of Israel, and let's say they even said you can do anything you want. You can criticize Netanyahu. >> I don't think I could take that job. >> Um I I think Jerusalem Post used to be very legit. I could think about Ha Arts. >> That's it. It's the only one I could think about. Um, you know, if I'm a tech bro, uh, you know, if I if I'm off, you know, do I do a deal with an Israeli tech company, um, I don't think I can.

[23:48] Um, you know, I think I'll I'll catch too much [ __ ] from my employees and from my customers. Um, you know, basically, it used to be, think about six months ago, John, it was exactly the opposite. If you refuse to do business with, you know, with Israel, you'd be accused of anti-semitism. Now the howling Holocaust and anti-semitism, >> it doesn't work anymore. It's the boy who cried wolf. It's done. It's over. And I mean, the spell is broken, right? And um and people, so it's going to hurt

[24:20] them. This is a country that doesn't really have natural resources and you know, at all. It has a tech sector that's completely dependent on international, western, specifically US support. That sector is going to go away. They're going to be like South Africa during apartheid but worse because South Africa is a mineralrich country. They have their own economy. They didn't really need anyone else. They were very self- sustaining. >> Yes. >> Israel's not it's a welfare state. They're going to feel the hurt within

[24:51] months. >> Oh man, I I agree. And not that this necessarily will lead to anything, but we we spoke on the last episode about this um or two episodes ago about this vote in the House of Representatives uh over whether to cut off um offensive military aid. It it had six votes. It was all members of the uh of the squad plus uh Marjorie Taylor Green. Well, there was an identical vote in the Senate last night and 27 senators, all

[25:25] Democrats, >> yes, >> voted in favor. So, we're talking about we're talking about what 1 and a half% of the House a week ago, but now 27% of the Senate voting to cut off offensive military aid. I think that's dramatic. >> It is dramatic. Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. and and and and senators are, you know, they're that the Senate is the slow deliberative body, right? >> That's right. The one that we're supposed to take so seriously because

[25:56] they're supposed to be the adults in the room. >> Well, they are they are being the adults in the room, >> right? >> I mean, obviously, they need to get to 50 and and 60 and beyond, >> right? >> Will they >> uh not in the near term? No. >> No. >> A still too powerful. >> Yeah. But you know, we used to say we used to say no relative to South Africa, too. You remember Ronald Reagan just told everybody just get it out of your heads. We're not sanctioning South

[26:26] Africa. We're going to we're going to have relations with South Africa. We're going to we're going to trade with South Africa and nothing's going to change. And then two years after a year a year after Reagan left the presidency, uh the apartheid government fell. Uh, Houdini always has good questions. Uh, not no shade on anyone else here. What happens if the EU doesn't recognize Palestine, but a member nation does? >> Well, that's already happened. >> Yes. >> With Ireland.

[26:57] >> And Spain. >> And Spain. Yeah. >> And it's going to happen with Croatia. >> Yes, it will. >> So, um, >> yes, it will. >> So, um, I don't think it ma I don't think it matters, right? I mean, is EU recognition important really? I mean, I'm not sure >> as an organization. >> I mean, you know, like if you're Palestine, how much do you care about the EU? It seems like you probably get you care about everything. >> Yeah. Unless you just want you want a presence in Brussels.

[27:28] >> Yeah. >> You want everything. >> Yeah. If I were Palestinian, I'd say I'd say sure. I I would want EU recognition. Sure. But I just don't I you know I mean I I will say I think the France thing ended up being the big game changer and uh you know again good job President Mcron I mean yeah he really helps uh vindicate his own legacy after because he's a very unpopular guy >> very unpopular >> but this is popular. >> Uhhuh. It is. >> I heard somebody dismiss it the other

[31:05] French film, the pseudo documentary, The Battle of Alers, um in order to try to show like what the conflict between the col colonialist West and uh and the Muslim uh occupied uh world was like. Um it's a it's a it's black and white. It moves incredibly fast. It's a brilliant film and it's meant to it's it's all historically accurate and it's meant to look like news reels. It's meant to look like it's real footage, but it's not.

[31:36] It's our it's it's all filmed that way. Uh but it depicts this amazing event. And you know I always like to say that the difference between France and the United States is that Charles de Gaul who was the biggest advocate of of you know La France Ala French Algeria forever. >> He goes to you know factf finding trip on the ground to Alers. He finds out they [ __ ] hate us. They don't want us here. >> And he came back home went on national television and told the French people I

[32:08] was [ __ ] wrong. Like they they hate us. we can't be there. We have to withdraw and we have to help them become independent and finance them and like help them land on their feet and the French and a lot of pe the right-wingers absolutely hated him for it. But that was an act of integrity >> and you know we just don't we don't admit that kind of thing. >> No, it was like Walter Kankite going to Vietnam and then coming back and saying oh my god was I wrong. And that's when Lyndon Johnson said he

[32:39] knew we had lost the war. when he lost Kronhite, >> although Konite wasn't really very in favor of the war, right? I mean, I think he was kind of like, "Whatever." >> He kind of went along with the government line, >> you know, we're the good guys. They're the they're communists. We have to stop them. >> Yeah. And then he showed >> then over there, then over here, >> all those old excuses. >> And then let's uh you know, so also uh let's talk about Steve Whit. He had his little He had his little uh vacations

[33:11] all I ever wanted. >> He would not allow any anybody from the media to go. >> Yes. So he allowed himself to be used as a prop. The Israelis trundled him over to one of these food distribution sites run by the disastrous Gaza and hilariously named humanitarian foundation which have all been basically pigshoots. Um, you know, ba basically they they put these the Palestinians are all like basically forced into tight little fenced in cages in the heat

[33:43] without water. Uh, and uh, if they get too spicy, the Israelis shoot them. >> Um, and it's been literally happening every single day. Yes. Sometimes a hundred people a day. Um, but at least, you know, 20 is a slow day when it comes to the Israelis killing people to get food. Um, at these sites there's only four. Gaza is not so big, but um, there's there are people who would be required to hike maybe five miles at least round through a war zone, an

[34:13] active combat zone, round trip from where they're camped to these food distribution sites where they might be killed. I mean, no wonder, you know, the the the food aid isn't getting where it needs to be. And it's it's a, you know, it's catastrophic. Um, I don't know. It's It was a bad look for Steve Whit. >> It was a bad look. He was used as a prop. And And Mike Huckabe looked ridiculous, too. He looked like Jared Kushner when Kushner went to Iraq and

[34:44] was the only person wearing a a bulletproof vest and it was too small for him. Never forget that. >> Yeah, I know. He reminded me of Dukakus in the camp in the in the tank. >> Yeah, in the tank. Um, notice that nothing came out of this so-called visit, right? No new announcement of additional food aid. Uh, listen, the the the least efficient way to deliver food to people is to drop it from planes, right? You drop enough food for 200 people. Well, there are two

[35:15] million that are starving, >> so you're not really helping anybody. >> Um, but they they came back. They went back to Jerusalem and nobody said anything about, you know, opening opening land bridges or or additional trucks or nothing. >> Well, on NPR this um of all places, there was a really um actually I thought a very useful report. They interviewed someone about the food situation in Gaza who's an expert um at uh I think it was

[35:46] at Oxfam um and they said the answer really to like the high the staggeringly high food prices in the bazaars is you flood the zone with food. In other words, it's it's a supply and demand issue. Um you you just pour in so much food, >> more than enough, not minimal, beyond maximal. Yeah. If you put in so much food that gazins have to start going on a diet, >> yeah, >> all the prices are going to collapse, no armed gangs aren't going to be interested in stealing this food because

[36:17] it's not going to be valuable anymore. It's just going to be food. Uh and and that's the answer here. Um but the Israelis of course don't want to do that. Or more accurately, Netanyahu's right-wing partners in his war cabinet don't want to do that. I was in uh the National Whistleblower Day um events day before yesterday and uh somebody else mentioned what Dana Alrech is mentioning right now. American vet and civilian contractor in Gaza, Anthony Akilar, I guess is how you say his name, um is

[36:47] blowing the whistle on what's happening with with food aid there. um watch watch that page because uh I think we're going to get a lot more people especially Americans who probably went into this thing being pro-Israel and anti-Hamas and but still, you know, wanting to deliver food to hungry people and they're coming back like, "Oh my god, it's a genocide. We have to do something to stop it right now." And by the way, the Israelis are

[37:18] stealing the food. Agular. Thank you. Thank you. That's right. >> So, I did want to put this up here. Houdini. Allegedly, there's a square kilometer full of food and other aid on the >> I've heard that. >> Some of which is probably rotting in the sun. >> Yeah. >> Um but yes, that's because the Israelis won't let it through. And you know, the human rights groups that want to distribute the aid there, like World Food Kitchen, are not being assured that they will have more of their workers killed by the Exactly. Uh thank you, Spectrum. Thank you very much.

[37:49] And by the way, um, over on Rumble, Spectrum is, uh, asking I like I love this question. Seeing that sanctions don't work against Russia now, the first countries that are are discussing sanctions against Israel, would those have a better chance of working, yay or nay? >> You know what? I think not so much sanctions as much as cutting off the billions and billions of dollars in welfare >> that we give the the Israelis and and

[38:21] the uh the weapons. >> Yeah, >> they have their own weapons industry. What do they need our weapons for? But getting back to the other issue, um I I briefly worked with an a a woman who was a dualisraeli British citizen. Um I didn't like or respect her at all. She made a comment once during a a coffee break that her exact words were, "Work doesn't fit into my lifestyle." And I was like, "Oh my god, wow." like I

[38:52] couldn't even Anyway, besides that, um she told me that she was moving to Israel. And I said, "Why? >> You're British. You were born and raised in the UK." >> Yeah. >> And she said, "Because if I move to Israel, I get a free apartment. I get free furniture. I get a check every month to cover my expenses. Food, transportation, utilities, everything is free." >> And they're getting the money from us. >> They're getting money from us. It's our taxpayer money.

[39:23] >> I'm paying $5,100 a month for a twobedroom. I I'm, you know, I don't have free healthcare. >> That's right. >> I mean, no, that's absurd. Yeah. No, I mean, >> yeah. Outrageous. >> Yeah. They're a state and like and and you know, let's let's put them to work doing something useful, not killing >> gazins, >> right? That's right. >> Oh my god. So insanely nuts. Um, oh, Michael, Michael Gardner's making a point here, too. That is important, and

[39:55] it's exactly right. That's more of an issue with our military-industrial complex than anything. It's a win-win for them and their customers. Israel is just another customer. Absolutely true. >> And after 911, I say this all the time, before 911, there were more millionaires per capita in Silicon Valley than anywhere else in America. After 911, there were more millionaires in Washington DC per capita than any other place in America because that's where the defense and intelligence

[40:26] contractors are. And everybody got rich. >> Yeah. Yeah. No, I mean that's that is of course it's just a business, right? It's that old war is a racket. Just no question about it. Um no, I'm glad that that that that came up. Um, so we're hearing amid all of this chaos that Israel clearly not having learned its lesson yet. Um, got to give them points for uh, consistency, >> they're now preparing a new ground offensive against Gaza. Um, what ground,

[40:57] John, are they hoping to recapture that they haven't pre previously recaptured multiple times? And what are they going to do with this groundly leveled everywhere? Yeah, honest to God, they have flattened all of Gaza. There is not a single functioning hospital. Most apartment buildings have been destroyed. The electrical grid doesn't work. What was what little grid they had? There's no clean water. They've destroyed all of the the bazaars for

[41:28] people to go buy food. Now, they're just set up wherever they can set up. There's nothing left to destroy. So, what they >> There's something that they did, right? So, so we you've seen this. Well, okay. So, we've we've both been to war zones and usually some buildings are survive and that's what happened in Gaza from the aerial. They started with the aerial bombardment, but a bunch of buildings survived. Then the IDF came in by ground and they set up um they they detonated and blew up using dynamite. They

[42:01] demolished everything that survived. Uh, and then they came over and they graded it with earth movers. Um, and they just flattening it all out to turn it into a giant construction site, right? >> So, is this simply the idea is they're going to just build on top of it. Why would they not want to keep any of the old buildings? I mean, wouldn't it save money if they're planning to steal the land, ethnically cleanse it? I'm 100% convinced that that's been their agenda all along. Yeah. if that but why not

[42:32] keep any of the old infrastructure or do or is this really like also like psychologically we're going to erase any trace that these people were ever here no one's ever going to be able to say that wall over there was here before 2020 >> that was my family home that's all that's left yeah no I think that's what I think that's why they're doing it they're doing it because you know in the west we see articles all the time their memes on Facebook or where have you of um you know Palestinians standing

[43:03] outside a house that used to be theirs and there are these Israeli settlers from New Jersey that are living in it now. And I think that they just don't want that to happen. I think they intend fully and this is this is you know ethnic cleansing. It's a genocide to bulldoze everything so that nothing is left and build it back from scratch. I hope I'm wrong. I really do. >> I don't see how you can be. I mean, because nothing else makes sense. Yeah. I mean, they're literally willing to spend more money

[43:35] >> to do it this way. >> A lot more money. >> I mean, if you think about a city like Constantinople, which is, you know, is it like you can see all the layers of of history there. >> Oh my god. Yeah. >> You can still see you can still see the the walls of the ancient city. You can still see remnants of the original chain that the Byzantines ran across the the Golden Horn to stop ships until they paid their toll. >> That's right. Yeah. No, it's so cool. And they tried to Yeah. Sultan uh Sultan

[44:06] Attain so he could get him to conquer in 1453. So cool. That's at the military museum >> in Istanbul. Um but anyway, the point is it's like you can see all those layers of history in every city that's been through a war. I mean, even in Hiroshima, right, there's the there's some buildings that survive the uh the the American atomic bomb, >> but the Israelis really are I mean, this, by the way, that's genocidal in character, like erasing all traces that

[44:38] a culture ever existed there. It's Nazi style. The Nazis used to do that in Jewish neighborhoods where they'd burn everything down, bulldoze everything, uh because they didn't want it ever to, you know, that used to be the Jewish neighborhood. >> Yes. Yes. That's right, man. It's heartbreaking and it just never gets >> Thank you, Nadia Margaret, for becoming a monthly supporter for us. >> Oh, thank you. Much appreciated. She's number two, assuming she's a she. Um All

[45:10] right. And if you're not a she, I apologize. Um, unless you're becoming a she, in which case I don't apologize. So complicated. Um, so all right, I guess we're gonna we're gonna leave Gaza there or um is there anything else to talk about there? Are we >> there? There was a switching to politics for a minute if I could. I was curious. I almost called you yesterday >> because I wanted to get your opinion on on um >> Oh, I know. bird.

[45:40] >> Kamela Harris is not running for governor of California. >> Yeah. >> Um and and she was just so completely and utterly insincere in her explanation. Um she said that um she just needed some downtime and she needs to write a book about her experiences. Of course, she's not writing a book. They've already hired a ghost writer. Um, but she she needs to think about this book and she wants to travel around the country and meet some of the people that she did not have a chance to meet

[46:10] because the campaign was so historically short. And I thought, "Oh, you are so full of shit." And I had forgotten how much I had forgotten how annoying that nasely nagging voice is. Oh, I never could. And she sounds Yeah, she she would sound insincere ordering a beer and a burger at a restaurant. I mean, she's Yeah, she's got a very >> cloying kind of mean, you know, mean. Um Well, so so okay, we know she's not

[46:41] running for governor. I knew she wasn't going to run for governor. I my friends, you know why? Because being governor is hard work. >> It's hard work. And have we learned nothing from Richard Nixon in 1962? >> Right. Right. that you you won't have Kla Harris to kick around anymore. My mother wore a cloth coat. >> So, yeah. So, she's not running for governor. Um, that's not surprising. Now, everybody's saying, "Well, she'll run for president again." I don't think

[47:12] so. I don't think I don't think that's it at all. >> If she has a half a brain, she won't run for president. >> She won't. >> She didn't even make it to the Iowa caucuses the first time. >> No. No. It would be it would be catastrophic. Uh she didn't get much love here from uh and I think even within the Democratic party, she's just not I don't even think she could get the nomination. >> I don't either. I don't either. >> There's too many better candidates. Pete Buddha Judge is the man to beat in 2028. If you're a Democrat in my opinion, um I think they're going to they want to

[47:43] nominate him. He's the DNC pick, I think. >> God, I I hope you're wrong, but >> but I think you're right. And I'll I'll add too that, you know, she's going to have Nuome to worry about. >> Yes. >> But she's going to have Pritsker to worry about, too. >> Yes. >> And Pritskar is a tough mean guy with an unlimited supply of money. >> She will not have Josh Shapiro to worry about because he zionisted himself out of the race forever and ever. He'll never be in national politics. Listen, I if even if Josh Shapiro and I agreed on

[48:15] 100% of the issues, I would not vote for him just because he volunteered to serve in the IDF. >> Me, too. And then there's um what? Andy Basher, who you know, if ever there was a vice presidential candidate, that's him. >> He's the guy. He's the perfect one. >> Yeah, he is. >> He's he's already like set up a little exploratory committee. He's already raising money. He's been to uh New Hampshire. He went two weeks ago. >> Yeah, >> he's a good pick for that. I don't think

[48:46] she'll run for president because first of all, she will be smart enough to listen to all of her advisers who tell her you can't get the nomination. You'll humiliate yourself. Yeah, it'll look really bad. Just just don't. So, I think she only has two paths. >> She can uh she can either go to MSNBC, >> definitely. >> I think that's too much work. She's not a hardworking person. So I think she ends up in a synicure in academia. University of California trustee. >> That's what she's doing now.

[49:17] >> Provost at Pepperdine University. >> Oh yeah. She's a visiting professor at Stanford Law School right now. >> It's the Hillary Clinton. She She's completely cut and pasted from Hillary Clinton, right? She's going on a listening tour. That's what Hillary Clinton did when she ran for Senate from New York when everybody hated her and they were all gonna v vote for the guy from Long Island instead. Right. >> Um, whose name escapes me right now. Um, Rick Lazio. >> Rick Lazio. Oh my gosh. I haven't heard that. >> He was a sacrificial lamb and she almost

[49:48] and he almost ate the big bad wolf from >> he almost beat her. That's right. >> And uh well, you know, he was he's actually a very likable guy. Uh and um so I could see why he he kind of did better than they expected. But yeah, she's and then of course Hillary was a professor >> at at Columbia University School of International Affairs. >> That's right. God, I hate to think of this diplomats of the future being trained by that harpy. >> Oh my god. >> Um, Houdini says she'll she'll be on the

[50:19] board of some Fortune 500 company. You bet she will. >> Maybe. No, it won't be one. >> It'll be several. Yeah. Yeah, that's right. >> Yeah. >> Uh, Michael Gardner says Pritsker is my governor and I think he'd be a great candidate. >> Yeah. A couple of people are are saying nice things about Pritsker. I like >> he can donate to himself, too. He's rich as [ __ ] He >> He's a billionaire. Yeah, I I like Pritskar and I like the Pritsker family. They've they've done a lot of good stuff. >> Oh my god, Dana. >> Maybe she'll end up on the view. Oh, that's that's good. He wouldn't have to

[50:50] work except she'd have to be up really really early in the morning. >> Hey, getting back to Buddha Judge for a second. Michelle and I when we had our show on um on Sputnik, we used to [ __ ] on Buddha Judge at every opportunity just because this guy >> because he's a worm. >> He was the worst transportation secretary in American history. >> Mhm. >> And he had he had opportunity after opportunity after opportunity to do something right. But the the train

[51:21] derails and spills chemicals in East Palestine, Ohio. He's on vacation in Portugal. The the trains go on strike. He's on vacation in Brazil. Uh what was it? It was some other strike. >> Don't forget he took six months off for paternity leave. Paternity >> leave in his first year in office. And like you could say, and it's not like, you know, they got knocked up accidentally. It was a surrogate. It was planned. >> Exactly. Exactly. Yes. So, >> so yeah, I I mean this guy I listen he's

[51:53] he's brilliant. He speaks 55 languages or whatever. He speaks like eight languages or whatever. >> Yeah, he's he was a road scholar. Um he's a decorated, you know, military guy. Awesome. Very very smart. >> Worst in the military, wasn't he basically a supply clerk? He was like Radar O'Reilly, wasn't he? >> Oh, was he? >> Yeah. I don't think he would. I mean, I think, you know, he he saw I don't think he saw many shots fired in anger. >> Oh my god. >> You know, but here's the thing. Okay, so

[52:23] I think people will look back and say like I did. I always I always made fun of Mayor Pete because it's like they made a guy who was the mayor of Southbend, Indiana. Yeah. The head of the US Department of Transportation. Now, here's the funny part. I looked into this. So, the mayor of Southbend doesn't control a single piece of mass transit. As it turns out, Southbend has a separate transit authority that is not administered by the mayor. So, he had he didn't have 0.1% in experience. He had

[52:54] no experience, right? But, so that said, um, no one's going to go back and say, uh, what did you, you know, how come we don't have highspeed rail, right? I think they're going to look back at the train thing maybe and then he'll be they'll be able to say, you know, this I was under Biden. Biden didn't let anyone do anything. He was [ __ ] up and dying. Then we might say, "Well, what did you know about Biden?" And he'll say, "Well, I was the DOT guy. I didn't hang with him all the time." And that's fairly credible. So, and we know that he they hid him.

[53:24] >> They hid Biden from Buddha Judge and other members of the cabinet. I mean, Pete Buddha Judge didn't see Biden for two years. He lay eyes on him, >> but that's actually quite common. Do you remember when Ronald Reagan greeted his own secretary of housing and urban development with hello Mr. Mayor and the guy had been the secretary of of HUD for eight years? >> Well, he sat in this in the in the cabinet meetings with him. You would think he'd be like who's the guy down at the end other end of the table past the defense secretary, right? But yeah, no,

[53:55] it's Cap Weinberger. Um it it's very like uh but still I think so here's the brief for Buddha Judge. I think handicapping it politically. Uh I think the brief is he's Obama 2.0. >> Yeah. >> So he's professorial, he's calm, >> very very intelligent. >> He's intelligent. He doesn't sound anything like Donald Trump. Every election is a reaction to the last president. Um and so and for the so he gets the nomination I think easily because the party's obsessed with

[54:26] identity politics and making history. Okay, we tried ladies not one but twice, lost. got to go back to a dude, but we can't just have a white dude. Oh, but he's gay. So, we can make that work. And he's not queeny or flamboyant. >> No. >> So, it'll be fine. >> That's that's that's how he gets the nomination. That doesn't get him to 1600, >> but it gets him the nomination. >> That's my take. >> First of all, thank you, Firmware Chip from Wake Forest. Thank you for that generosity. Um, and and there are a lot

[54:58] of really good comments here about, you know, he he is a vet who's not draped in the flag, which is refreshing. He's very intelligent. He's the anti-Trump in like practically every way. >> True. >> Um, he's a great speaker. Um, he would be able to go toe-to-toe in a debate with with Vance. >> True. >> Jay Vance is a good debater. >> True. Oh. Oh, yeah. He he just he ate Kla Harris, >> but being gay. I mean

[55:28] >> I mean you know >> what what about like the the Bernie Trump >> sorry Tim Walls. He ate Tim Walls. That's who it was. >> Yeah. Yeah. Um what about the Bernie Trump voters? People who voted for Bernie and then voted for Trump. They're not going to they're not going to vote for a gay man. I I don't think >> I don't think Well, I don't think Buddha Judge isn't going to get the progressive left of the Democratic party. And that's why I wouldn't >> unless he needs but he he can still but he won't he's he's a DNC pick so they won't let him come out against Israel

[55:59] and they won't let him come out in favor of like uh you know Medicare for all the Bernie stuff. If he can grab the the progressive stuff >> he's in in like Flynn. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> I don't know. >> We need we need somebody who's a who's a bonafide progressive. >> Yeah. Who's the highest ranked? I'm trying to think who's the highest ranked um openly gay American politician. Um we've had a bunch of congressmen. Um we had we had a closeted senator from

[56:30] Idaho. >> Well, we've got >> same thing. >> We've got >> the senator from Wisconsin. I forget her name. >> Oh, right. Um Tammy Baldwin or whatever. >> Tammy B. Is it Tammy Baldwin who's gay? >> No. Is it the other one? I think >> Yeah, I think it's the other one. >> Yeah. >> Uh you know what? I don't know. To answer your question, do we have any gay governors? >> That's a good question. No one's I've always I've always thought uh I've always thought that uh Ronda Santis was closeted, but that might just

[57:01] be his voice. I don't know. People thought that I was gay, too. It's like, you know, when I used to have open mic Friday, open mic day on my old radio show in LA, the one open mic question was always, "Ted, are you gay?" Always. And I didn't want to deny it because I thought that would be like homophobic like you know. >> Sure. >> Sort of like nah. So I just be like I don't want to talk about it. I'm not gonna say yay. I'm not gonna say nay. Yeah. Tammy Duckworth. I don't know if that's her. >> Is it Tammy Duckworth? >> I don't know. >> No. Tammy Duckworth is the war hero, isn't she? >> Yeah. Yeah. Well, you can be you can be

[57:33] gay and be a war hero. >> No, but I mean but she lost her legs and she's from Isn't she from Illinois? >> God. Um I'm gonna have to I'm gonna I'm gonna look this up like Okay. The lesbian senator is Tammy Baldwin. >> Oh, okay. >> Tammy Baldwin from Wisconsin. >> Too many Tammies. >> Yeah. Yeah. Lots of Tamies. And And the new senator from uh or the new What is she? The governor of >> Good point. >> Arizona. She's by

[58:05] >> America. Peter Teal is gay and more powerful than any politician. No doubt. >> Yeah. I don't know. I I I don't really focus. You know, I said to my I said to my daughter not too long ago, one of the things that I admire about this generation is that is that they don't stovepipe themselves into these these, you know, gay, straight, by this, that u I I I I'm from the stovepipe

[58:37] generation. I can't I can't relate to the whole like >> it's hard. I don't know. I don't fully understand it. >> Like I I I have to admit I don't believe in people are gender fluid. I mean, I know it's true. I know people who know people who swear that it's true, but I can't believe it. It's like, okay, so if it's 10 o'clock in the morning, um feeling like uh I'm gay, and if it's like 10:45, I'm straight and maybe I don't want sex at all by, you know, by noon. I don't know. I just don't get it. >> There's >> I don't care, but it's just weird.

[59:08] There's a guy that that we worked with, Ted. I I'm not going to out him, of course, but um over dinner, he just casually said that he was pansexual. >> Oh, right. >> I said, you know, I've I've heard the term. I I'm not sure I fully understand it. And he said, um he said, I'll I'll have sex with anybody that seems attractive to me. Men, women, women dressed as men, men dressed as women. He said, it makes no difference to me. Uh I I knew a Russian guy who did not work with us who used he I remember

[59:41] hearing him talk to someone like that and he says, "You are not you are omnivorous. You are greedy. >> All right. I mean, you know, as long as long as they're over 18. You guys do you. I don't care. >> I I have a very short story I have to tell. So there was um there was an editor that we used to work with at Sputnik years ago who I liked very much and who I sat next to um them. Okay. So

[1:00:15] um one day when he was a he came into work with just a little bit of blue eyeshadow and I thought, "Huh, that's kind of different." All right. Well, none of my business. And then after a couple of weeks of that, um, came in with a blouse and blue jeans and I thought, "Oh, okay. They're transitioning. Okay." And then after a while, it was very stylish dresses and, you know, woman. And then

[1:00:46] he changed his Twitter bio to she, her, and then later to she, they. Okay. So, I was asked to give a speech at the Venezuelan embassy the night that we broke off diplomatic relations with the Venezuelans. So, I I was there with a bunch of people. There was like a riot outside and this young woman came up to me and she said, "Hi, John. We haven't

[1:01:17] met, but my name is, you know, Mary. I'm so husband. I'm sorry. I'm so and so's wife. And I said, "Oh, I'm sorry. I didn't even know they were married." So, we had a nice little chat. I go to the office the next day and um and our colleague comes in and says, "Hey, I heard you had a chance to meet Mary last night." And I said, "Oh, yeah. We had a lovely conversation." I said, "I apologize. I didn't know you were

[1:01:48] gay." and they say, "I'm not gay." And I said, "Oh, I'm sorry, but your your Twitter bio says that you're a woman and you're married to a woman." >> So, I said, "Well, I thought that meant >> by definition, >> yeah, that if you're a woman and you're married to another woman that that you're gay." And

[1:02:18] he says, you know, it's your generation that wants to put labels on everybody. >> I was like, okay, >> okay. Well, there's just there they are words. I mean, it does not matter. >> Yeah, that's pretty funny. Um, >> all right. So, we've got a little another ad and I think and there's one last story that uh I want to talk to you here. I'm going to read this. I'll do you want to do the ad or I can read the ad. >> Oh, go right ahead. I don't have it. >> Okay. When Rumble first started in 2013, they built the platform for the small creator. They didn't censor or have

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[1:03:51] wanted to talk to you about microlastics. Uh, I know it's not really our wheelhouse, but why not? Everything's our wheelhouse. So, a new study came out that found that if you just sit at home, your body absorbs an average of 68,000 discrete microlastical plastic particles every single day. >> How crazy is that? >> It's crazy. >> But it's happening. >> Look, I'm drinking out of a plastic

[1:04:22] bottle right now. >> Right. >> Yeah. So we should I mean it's like so many things that are going on in our society and the political class doesn't seem to even address it. I mean you don't even hear Bernie Sanders talk about this, right? I mean we need we need political figures like you know I loved how I had many problems with him but I loved how Al Gore was obsessed with climate change and took it upon himself to educate the public. Um and it didn't unfortunately do much but he

[1:04:52] tried. Yeah. Um, you know, I I would love to see whether it's Pete Buddha Judge or some other candidate, hell, Donald Trump, any anybody, >> JD Vance take up this cause, you know. >> Yeah. And nobody is. And it's funny, the experts are shouting it from the rooftops. You're right. The politicians aren't responding or reacting in any way. And usually when there's this consensus in in a community, some politician is going to pick it up

[1:05:23] as an issue and nobody seems to care. They just accept it like, "Oh, well, you know, I was talking to a to a funeral director the other day. That was my phone, by the way, on the and now I can't duplicate the sound." Anyway, um I was talking to a funeral director who I know and he told me that we eat so many ultrarocessed foods over the course of a lifetime that even some people who don't get inbalmed stay intact for years.

[1:05:54] >> Oh my god. >> Yeah. Because of all the preservatives. >> That's disgusting. >> It's disgusting. I mean, this is where Well, I guess look, honestly, part many uh progressives voted for Trump because of RFK Jr. >> and and Maha. He's been really quiet. Is this one of those things where there's, you know, several possibilities? The two big ones, I think, are either >> Donald Trump just hogs the limelight and doesn't let anyone else talk and or um

[1:06:25] RFK Jr. is in the trenches rolling up his sleeves and working on something big and it's just not ready to be announced yet. >> Yeah, that may that may very well be it. Yeah. And you know, I think that he's still facing such push back from Democrats. Oh, you know what? Somebody just wrote, um, I bet John knows where to bury the bodies. And I responded

[1:06:56] >> and it rejected my response. >> Oh, really? >> Yeah. It says, "This comment will not be posted to deprogram show." >> That's awesome. >> I said, "The mob taught me that you bury them under somebody else's casket." >> Oh, this is funny. We were talking about Ed. Poor Edia mean he he wouldn't be able to eat now. >> No. >> No. Oh my god. >> Eat McDonald's and you'll be buried like a pharaoh. >> Seriously. so much for our McDonald's uh ads that we were hoping to get. Um yeah,

[1:07:29] by the way, this is tr totally true. Being a dive instructor, I see the impact plastic has on our environment a lot. It's bad. Like really bad. Pulled out plastic straps from a turtle's mouth. >> I'm a diver. Um, John, and I I got to tell you, um, even in just the 25 years or so that I've been diving, um, it's the reefs have gone from basically dying to dead all over. It's really hard to find a reef where there's any fish or anything going on. Um it's uh you know and and it's true like you can go to a

[1:08:01] remote island uh where there's a population of like a hundred in the Caribbean and like the the side where the current hits will be completely filled with trash that uh and plastic bottles that have washed in across the Atlantic Ocean. Um it's you know it's it's really really >> Yeah, we have that plastic island in the Pacific that Dana is referring to. It's the size of Texas. There's one in the Atlantic, too, now. >> Oh, I didn't know that. >> Yeah. >> Oh my god.

[1:08:32] Terrible. Well, >> well, >> yeah. No, it's uh it's it's pretty grad I'm not I can't even like comment on that one. Um All right. I'm trying to think. Is there anything else that we need to talk about here? Oh, I guess we'd be remiss if we didn't talk about uh Trump repositioning those two nuclear submarines. So we could leave that lead out bring it out with that one. Um, do we care about that? I mean, or is that just I mean, how important is that, John? I

[1:09:02] >> I don't think it is important. It's It's meant to intimidate. Um, but like I've said in the past, if if we're serious about about a fight, we reposition entire carrier battle groups. A couple of subs are just meant to sort of piss them off. Maybe scare them a little bit that they're not going to be scared. But it it was just what what a president who is kind of impotent in this in this situation might do.

[1:09:35] >> It it just seemed completely symbolic. I mean, I was also like I mean, do you think Vladimir Putin woke up one morning and like Joe Biden forgot about our ICBM's arsenal? >> I mean, if we want to nuke them, we can't. >> Seriously. Right. Seriously. >> Oh. Oh, not the submarines. >> Yeah. I'm scared now. >> Now, now they're angry. >> All right, John. Um, I think we're gonna leave that there. Yeah. >> Well, I want to say thanks again to

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