[00:08] Good morning. You're watching D program with Ted R and John Kiryaku. It is Monday, January 5th, 2025. Thank you for watching, sharing, and liking the show. Obviously, we've uh effectively overthrown the government of Venezuela. Good morning, John. >> Good morning. Good morning. I don't mean to laugh, but yeah, we've effectively overthrown the government of Venezuela. >> So, that happened uh this normally these invasions are prepared, John, with a lot of propaganda, right? We both remember
[00:40] the buildup to I I mean, look, I remember uh being in Afghanistan in late 2001 and I saw a US um APC drive by with a sign on it that said next stop Baghdad. 2001. We didn't go in until March 2003. Um, all of 2002 was spent jinning up propaganda about weapons of mass destruction and having the New York Times come on board and support all that. Uh, and then, you know, by the time that Bush actually went in, uh, you know, the but it was approved of. Now,
[01:11] of course, obviously, it didn't go well and it turned out to have destroyed his presidency, but it started well and it wasn't something that he needed to hide. Here it was. This was basically treated like a uh holiday weekend media dump. Uh it was done in the dead of night. Uh basically over the over the over the uh you know the uh New Year's holiday wasn't prepared for. There was no propaganda of you know of any import.
[01:41] Basically, we knew this, you know, like you mentioned, and I I mentioned this before the show, John, but you very astutely last week pointed out that someone who had trained you at the agency told you very early on that there was uh that you don't send carrier battle groups and tens of thousands or hundreds of thousands of personnel, not to mention support personnel stateside, assigning them to this unless you plan to do something. So, it's not a surprise, but it's shocking. That's exactly the way to say it. Shocked, but
[02:13] not surprised. You know, it's funny. I I I'm kind of the eternal optimist. I shouldn't be because because maybe I would be better prepared for life if I weren't always so optimistic about things, but yeah, I not only did I know what you just said, I said what you just said. >> You did. If you if you really want to know if the United States is going to invade a country, look at naval uh movements. We don't send a carrier
[02:43] battle group if we don't mean business. We sent a carrier battle group, the USS Gerald Ford, and then we overthrew the Venezuelan government. With that said, until the very end, Ted, I was optimistic because I kept telling myself, but MAGA is supposed to be the anti-war party now, right? And that's why he keeps saying we need to give these people the benefit of the doubt on this issue of war and peace. Well, no, we don't anymore. And another couple of
[03:14] things, too. You look at the uh you look at the responses from Republicans, especially Republicans on Capitol Hill, >> and they're almost uniform. They're celebrating, practically dancing in the streets over this, led by none other than her majesty Lindsey Graham. Um, who is just repeating what he said 23 years ago as we were preparing to cross the border into Iraq.
[03:46] So, you know, is MAGA is MAGA a real movement? I'm coming to think that MAGA is another temporary flash in the pan just like the Tea Party was. It came on strong and then it just vaporized. >> And I I also came to the conclusion this weekend that Donald Trump did not create MAGA. MAGA was created around the rise of Donald Trump. Do you remember about a year ago,
[04:18] Ted? Maybe not even a year ago. was when we were first starting the show. You you probably don't remember because it was a minor point, but there was this conversation that we had about about a complaint that Marjorie Taylor Green had made about something that Trump had done and we were talking about whether Trump was MAGA. So whatever Trump said that was the MAGA position or whether MAGA was a movement and Trump was
[04:50] straying from it. I think our answer now is very clear. >> Agreed. Um and it's it's extremely disputing. I mean, you know, I think of I think we we and I have alluded this to this in the past, right? The Manchus invaded China. Two generations later, the Manchus were no more because China had absorbed them, right? MAGA conducted a hostile takeover led by Donald Trump of the GOP, but the GOP has now eaten MAGA. Um, basically the neoc have won.
[05:20] Um, you know, look, I don't think I mean George W. Bush had other regime change projects that we don't talk about anymore, like the Kier Republic. >> That's right. >> Stuff like that. But still, he had two main ones, Afghanistan and Iraq. Um this is this is bigger if we are to pay any attention to him. I mean you know the weekend he basically threatened to attack Iran again. Uh he he said Marco Rubu said quote unquote Cuba is in big trouble.
[05:50] >> Um he said uh we have more harsher threats no more amusing against Greenland. Um you know it's just right. I mean, >> uh, so, oh, and also Colombia and the president of the United States, right, a grown man told the president of Colombia he has to watch his ass. That's a quote. Um, this is a major US ally, by the way, >> which and those aren't John's words. Colombia has major US ally status. Major
[06:23] non-NATO ally status. It's I mean so the whole thing is so I mean you and I neither of us suffers from Trump derangement syndrome and you and I both have been optimistic about this president in certain respects right like not certainly not maybe on economic policy or on distribution of wealth or healthcare but certainly on on foreign policy which is super important and also um you know for example RFK and you know and MAHA and stuff like that >> and so I mean we don't suffer from TDS
[06:54] we I'm just going to say this. We haven't talked about this. I think now officially Donald Trump is really dangerous. Um, and at this point, if I'm in the Congress, I'm thinking we might need to impeach this guy. I don't think that they have the guts. >> I I'm worried on a number of fronts right now. Like, I'm really truly genuinely worried. If you are the president of Cuba >> Mhm.
[07:25] >> you can't sleep at night the last couple of uh of nights because you know you're next. >> And you're going to even if they we don't invade directly. >> We're just going to you know it's basically an oil embargo. >> It's an oil embargo. Now now is the time to squeeze Cuba. Cuba I think Cuba this is the beginning of the end for the Cuban government. But then you have to think about what the Iranians must be thinking. The Iranians have to be absolutely panicking right now. First of all, Benjamin Netanyahu was here over
[07:55] the holiday. What the heck did they talk about down there at Mara Lago where Netanyahu comes out smiling, says it was one of the greatest meetings of his career? Flies back and we invade Venezuela. Not invade Venezuela, but we cross into Venezuela and snatch uh Maduro. I I want to add too a minor point. Um, it was Delta Force that was sent in to uh to snatch Maduro. They did so successfully without a single
[08:25] casualty. There were reports that a couple people suffered minor injuries when a bullet struck one of our helicopters. No big deal. Um, as a matter of policy, Delta Force team member identities are classified at the secret level, >> right? They they have to carry out their their missions, their duties. They have to do it in secrecy and so their identities are secret. It was minutes before the leader of the Delta Force
[08:56] team was identified. He was identified, I'm sorry to say this, as um Dimitris Ktootis, a Greek American and direct descendant of Admiral Kurotis, one of the greatest heroes of the Greek Revolution against the Ottoman Empire. Um you look at this guy's background, which the Greek press just laid out all over the internet over the last 24 hours. This guy is a Renaissance man. He's a
[09:28] full bird colonel. He looks like he's in his 20s. Obviously, he's not, but he looks like a kid. Full bird colonel, accomplished Finnish carpenter, a beekeeper, raises his own honey, >> of course, >> you know, volunteers to to read to underprivileged children in his time off. This kind of guy, >> right? Um the Pentagon hasn't said whether all this stuff is true or not,
[09:59] but the Greek media have decided that the Gondor is the hero of this thing. And so while the Greek government is saying, ah, you know, you probably shouldn't go out and and invade countries and snatch their leaders. But it's okay. We support that you did this, but you really shouldn't. But okay. But at least the guy who did it a Greek and there's this celebration in Athens right now. It's killing me. In
[10:30] all seriousness though, in all seriousness though, >> Cuba and Iran should be very, very worried about where this is going. I'm not sure why people are bringing up Greenland again. I mean, I know Trump did. We're not going to invade Greenland. We're not going to launch an act of war against a NATO uh member country. Um I think that I think that the idea is that if we bully the Danes enough that they'll just give it up or lease it to us for 99 years or something
[11:00] like that, but I think the focus now should be on Cuba and Iran. >> Agreed. Um yeah, especially Cuba. Um >> and well, let me ask you a question, too. What do you think this does for Israeli plans visav Lebanon? I mean, this is I mean, it it does seem like, you know, Israel is trying to create greater Israel, right? Um the the I think the heat is off the Israelis for Gaza now because >> without a doubt,
[11:30] >> uh you know, all attention is not on it. In the same way, by the way, we should probably, you know, um mention the Epstein files. We're probably not going to be talking about that for a little while either. Um the West Bank is uh well on the way of to total annexation. Um I think you know the Israelis would like to my theory has always been the Israelis would like to basically occupy the lower the southern third of Lebanon. They don't really need or want the whole thing, but they want that buffer. Um they they I think that's their their
[12:00] thing. So I think they're I think they're going to choose a moment uh and I think it's already been green lit by by Trump. Uh, and they're gonna and they're going to go in. I mean, it's not the first or the last time, right? I mean, I don't think I think Lebanese independence is in real trouble. I think so, too. I think so, too. Uh, and this is going to get bigger and bigger because we have now no right whatsoever to criticize China or Chinese moves
[12:31] toward Taiwan um >> or Russian moves towards Ukraine. Um, you know, I I I I'm glad you brought that up because um there's been a lot of reporting about how uh official like, you know, basically pro-war pro- Kremlin Russian news sources have been editorializing um you know, basically about how they they don't really approve of the overthrow of Venezuela, which was, you know, a Russian friend. Um but they're jealous of the way it was carried out, the efficiency, the quickness, the
[13:02] rapidity of this uh you know special military operation as they kind of jokingly called it. Um and they you know and I think but this you know the subtext here is also listen the US has just completely relinquished any right at all to complain about anything we ever do. And you know, morally there's no there's no semblance of a moral high ground because, you know, it's one thing to say, well, you guys invaded Iraq 22 years ago. It's another thing to say,
[13:34] you guys just kidnapped a sitting head of state like, you know, a couple of days ago, so who are you to tell us anything? And they're right. Hey Ted, what do you make of what do you make of the fact that we've killed we killed at least um 80 people in this operation? >> Got to be more. >> It's got to be more. At least 80 people, including at least 35 Cubans. >> Mhm. >> And that we bombed and destroyed
[14:06] Hugo Chavez's tomb. What's up with that? Yeah, it's it's disgusting, right? I mean, it's like it's not it's like, you know, like like the band Nirvana called it territorial pissings. Not only are we going to get our way, but you know, by the way, I got to say that um this is probably a violation of US law because US the US military is prescribed from hitting uh from t deliberately taking out any historically or architecturally notable
[14:39] sites during during combat. And I'm sorry, but Hugo Chavez's tomb is a historically notable site uh in Venezuela. And it seems like that would be not just desecrating, you know, a a a revered figure there under the current government, right? I mean, he basically founded the current government um the Bolivarian Socialist Republic of Venezuela. Um >> so, um I think it's against the law for whatever it matters. But but John, all of this is against the law. Yeah. I
[15:10] mean, there's there's no moral I mean, there's no legal basis for any of it. >> I mean, it's it's hard to even know where to start with all the lawb breaking, but >> seriously, and there's a there's a law that when you launch a military operation, you have to inform the leaders of Congress. >> Just wanted to get to that. >> And they didn't they didn't even go and I always thought it was a cheat to go to the gang of eight and say, "Oh, well, we went to our eight buddies and we told them." And that's that's been the way it's been for the last few decades. always objected to
[15:40] that. >> It's [ __ ] That's not in the Constitution. There's there ain't no gang of eight in the Constitution. Right. That's right. But but the thing is they But but still, okay, so they didn't even do that. >> Rubio, I mean, Rubio to me always looks like a guy who knows better but is doing it anyway. Um that's just sort of the vibe I get. And >> but on this though, this just has Rubio written all over it. >> Oh yeah. Especially the Cuba part. especially >> because he's got a heart on for Cuba. >> Yeah. >> Even though Castro is long dead.
[16:12] >> Um >> and so like so I mean >> Yeah, we we get into him. So So I'm sorry I lost my train of thought. We >> Sorry. Sorry. Sorry. Um uh Rubio. >> Oh, Rubio. Yeah. So, so Rubio, he um he goes on yesterday onto uh the morning talkies and he says, you know, basically, well, we couldn't tell Congress, John, because after all, you know, they this is this is a a sensitive military operation. I'm like, well,
[16:44] they're all sensitive military operations. I mean, you know, D-Day was a pretty sensitive military operation. I think, you know, declaring war against Imperial Japan was a sensitive military operation. I think the dittle raid was a sensitive They're all sensitive, right? So, basically what they're saying is, well, we can't tell. We're not going. This is basically effective effectively telling Congress, we will never inform you of any impending military operations. Like those days are over.
[17:15] You guys are geled. You guys are you're cucks. you guys now, you know, I don't know what they're good for. They might as well just pass an enabling act like the, you know, like the Reichto did for Adolf and be done with it. You know, that was the law that just said everything that Hitler proposes is automatically rubber stamped, >> right? >> There there's even there's even more to it here. Over the past several years, um whether the Democrats were in charge in Congress or the Republicans is irrelevant. Um, but over the last
[17:46] several years, Congress has has consciously seated authority to the executive, right? We have the strongest presidency right now in American history. >> No doubt. >> Congress is just secondary to to everything. And really, it's it's fallen on the courts, the third branch of government, to say whether or not the executive can do something or not do something. Well, now all of a sudden, Congress wants to assert its authority. Well, guess what? Too late. You don't
[18:17] have any authority. It's been taken from you. Or you voluntarily just gave it up. So, too late for you. It's going to take a generation to to rebuild the >> They could take it back. They're not going to, John. You're 100% chance. >> But look, uh, we're dealing with another We're looking at another um shutdown possibility, right? Because the uh >> That's right. that we that that that extension expires, the CR expires in very shortly. So, here we go again. So, this would be the big opportunity for uh
[18:49] Republicans and Democrats who think the president's gone too far to shut down the government. Also, I think there's probably a little bit of buyer's remorse among some of the traitorous Democrats who uh you know, who basically um ended up jacking up everyone's health care costs. Um that's this there's an opportunity here for a doover. The Republicans had promised that there was going to be, you know, a healthc care vote. That never happened. Shocking. >> So yeah, I mean, you know, they could do
[19:21] this. They do have tools at their disposal is all I'm saying. They're just choosing not to use them. >> Yeah, that's it. That's it. Yeah. Even even the the big media outlets have reported on uh Mike Johnson being the weakest >> uh speaker of the house in the history of the house. The weakest. And you know what? He doesn't he doesn't care. There there was a piece in the Washington Post >> two or three weeks ago um about Johnson that there was some big bill coming up
[19:53] for a vote on on Monday and people were just beating him up over it. He turned his phone off and went to church. That was that's what he decided to do. >> Turned his phone off and went to church. >> I mean, yeah, that's his model. I look, he he knew when he took the job that he wasn't going to keep it unless he unless he he ruled like this, right? >> Yeah. >> Um Oh my god. Oh, by the way, we do Okay, so we have an ad and uh Robbie, we need to come on and explain Robbie aid because it's that time of the month.
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[22:26] gofundme.comfdprogrambie. If you are driving or something and you just it's very easy to just go to gfofundme.com and search for deprogram Robbie one word and it'll come right up. So, um, thank you, Robbie. And, uh, we will get Oh, Robbie, while I've got you, um, you maybe you can repeat what you were saying before the show about like the the how American laws, the implications of American laws apply supposedly applying overseas to countries like Venezuela.
[22:57] >> Yeah. Well, the entire debate over birthright citizenship stems from the 14th amendment and whether or not no people uh who are born in the United States or at least in territory claimed by the United States are under the jurisdiction of the American government. Because if you are, then you get citizenship. That's how slaves got citizenship after the war between the states. Well, if the United States can can decide that Venezuela or any other country for that matter is subject to US drug law or any kind of US law, then by
[23:28] definition the people of that country are juris under the jurisdiction of the United States government. In which case they should all be citizens and voting in American elections. Not necessarily though. You know, this idea of snatching people overseas, it it began during the Reagan administration after the Kiki Camarina case. Kiki Camarina was a a DEA agent who was who was kidnapped by what was then known as the Guadalajara cartel and he was um he was tortured over the course of a month
[24:00] and then executed. Um, Congress passed a law very quickly allowing the FBI to make extrajudicial arrests overseas and bring people back for for prosecution. So, all all the Trump administration needed to do to make this thing legal over the weekend was to have one FBI agent on that plane or on a helicopter as Delta Force did its thing.
[24:30] one FBI agent to escort the Maduros back and according to US law, it's perfectly legal. >> Yeah, but that's crazy though because >> of course it is. >> I mean I mean you're talking about you know for example know with regards to Trump being and I agree with you. I mean before Trump, Abraham Lincoln was the most powerful executive in American history. I mean the dude suspended the constitution. Let's be honest. >> Yes. Although in his defense he suspended the he suspended habius corpus only in Maryland. Only in Maryland and
[25:03] only temporarily also called trash state. >> Yeah. He he also deported a congressman. So let's not forget that he deported a congressman from Ohio to Virginia. So there's there's that. But the point I'm trying to make is is that a lot of people think that MAGA are people like me. MAGA are Trump cultists and psychopans. America first. People like me despise what Trump has done and we hate him for it. This is a complete betrayal. >> We're gonna have to talk about the political the domestic political implications to this. Uh maybe starting
[25:35] tomorrow. I think I I think there's still so much international stuff to un to unwind right now. But thank you Robbie. We'll be talking to you soon. Please let's let's have that ad whenever you're ready. John, we have a lot of questions to get into. um a lot >> I guess before we do um very I have one question for you. >> Greenland, Cuba, Colombia, Iran, Mexico, which ones face imminent risk of uh military direct military attack? >> Iran and it may come in the form of direct
[26:05] Israeli military attack, but I think Iran is in big trouble right now. And and the one of the reasons that Iran is in big trouble is because there are legitimate protests taking place in Iran over the state of the economy, which happens every couple of years, right? And they're not gigantic or anything. There were 15,000 people that were in the streets. But Donald Trump >> in the US that would be a big protest though, John. >> Yeah. I mean, yeah, it would be. In Iran, it's not that big of a deal. But
[26:37] um Donald Trump said something over the weekend that if any protesters in Iran are killed that we will come to their aid. Well 15 were killed over the weekend. So what does that mean? We're going to invade Iran. We're going to allow the Israelis to bomb Iran. The Israelis have really ramped up propaganda uh Persian language Farsy language propaganda over the weekend. Interestingly enough, aimed at the shortage of water, saying that that in and of itself is is reason enough to
[27:08] overthrow the Ayatollas. We'll give you all the water expertise you need. We'll send scientists from Israel. We'll do whatever we can to help you, you know, find water. They don't want the Israelis help finding water or anything else. >> No, but um but I if I were the Iranians, I'd be worried. If I were the Lebanese, I'd be worried. And if I were the Cubans, >> I'd be worried. >> I I'd be Yeah, I'd be extremely worried. >> Yeah. No, for sure. Um, yeah, the All
[27:38] right, so let's go ahead as promised and get into uh some of the questions that have piled up. Thank you for your patience, everyone. And I the first question is a great one. Vanites, uh, how do we tackle seclusion and the wrath of the establishment whilst standing for what's right? How much of it is spiritually guided and how much of it is raw rectitude? Love that question. >> That's a really smart question. I You know what? I'm gonna give you this the first shot at it. >> Okay. Well, you Yeah. I mean, look, you you've suffered more than I have. Um
[28:10] I've I've certainly been marginalized. Uh I know that if my politics were different, uh you know, I probably, you know, would have had a pulled sir by now. Probably would be on staff at a major magazine >> without any question. And so, you know, look, I it's a lot of it is it's personality for me. I mean, I'm really first of all, I two things and I'll I'll turn it over to you, John. First of all, when I was a kid and I read stories about uh people standing alone, like, you know, High Noon, Gary Cooper for what's right. uh you know I always took
[28:40] those tales very seriously and also from history uh people like Harriet Tubman or whatever and just thought those people I want to be stood up >> a person like that like >> parks yeah they stood up >> if I want to be if it comes to a test I don't want to be puss I don't want to be you know speaker johnson I want to be [ __ ] I want people to say that was Ted [ __ ] raw and you know whatever else we thought of him he wasn't a [ __ ] he stood up for what he believed in so so it was that I mean I and then number two.
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[30:12] them and I would rather sleep outside in the [ __ ] street than be one of those people. And probably I'm stupid. But that's basically it. >> Even my ex-wife said the night of my arrest, she said, "Man, if they thought this was going to silence you, they didn't know you at all." >> That's what people told me about the LA Times. Like you know people the pe the people who knew me they were like oh they thought they could just [ __ ] roll you. >> Oh bring it on. >> They didn't know who you were.
[30:43] >> Bring it on. That's right. That's exactly how I am. >> It's a personality thing, right? I think in part like pigheadedness. >> I mean I don't really look down. >> I do have contempt for people who roll over. I do. But I but I but I also part of me also kind of admires them. I'm kind of a little bit jealous like oh people who can just go along to get along like you know sometimes I wish I could be like that it makes your life easier. Yeah, I've told you. Well, now I Well, there's so much in the news. I I I won't
[31:15] go into a a story, but yeah, you know, just I know I'm I'm jumping out of order, but so many people have commented in the in the chat over here about something I have to get to it. >> I have to say something really quickly. >> Over the weekend, the entire Greek um IFR uh went down. the entire thing. All Greek airspace was closed. All planes were grounded. Nothing in, nothing out. It just went down. That doesn't happen.
[31:47] That's not an accident. Somebody took it down. Um, I talked to the Greek media over the weekend a couple of times. I gave a couple of interviews and and I think all of us are of the opinion that it was the Russians. This was a Russian operation. The Greeks are all in on Ukraine. And for whatever reason, Prime Minister Constantine Mitoakis loves loves loves Donald Trump. And so anything that the American government has asked of the Greek government, they've done it. There was a piece in the New York Times over the weekend uh
[32:18] that you sent to me um about Kimberly Gilfoil. We have never had an American ambassador in Athens as universally popular as Kimberly Gilfoil. and she there there's this guy um who's a major singing star, major major pop star in Greece right now and she's friends with him and so he performed at a club in Gifa just south of Athens along the coast and so she
[32:50] went to see him because she said friends support their friends and there were some rumblings in the media well she stayed out all night and she she said this was the best quote in the whole piece she said I didn't stay out late I was back by 3:00 or 3:30. Like that's not staying out late. >> 3 or 3 lifestyle. >> But anyway, I I've written two opeds. I wrote I wrote one in 2017. I wrote another one a year ago about how and why the Greeks so deeply
[33:21] love Donald Trump. And I mean Greeks everywhere from the left to the right and everybody in between. They all love Donald Trump. And it's because they see him as somebody who cuts right through the [ __ ] If he wants to do something, by God, he does it. He doesn't make any apologies. He doesn't ask any permissions. >> That's true. >> And they think it's great. >> They love it. >> It's a personality thing. >> It is. >> All right, John. Let's see if we can get through these questions because they
[33:52] are, I mean, not surprisingly, piling up right now. Okay. Thanks for the two bucks, F. So now that the US empire runs Venezuela, will uh when will the saddling of IMF debt along with extreme poverty begin? Well, we don't. First of all, I just want to say um I'm glad you brought up this question because Trump said that he that we're going to run Venezuela, but the truth is the vice president and act is now the acting president. She is running Venezuela and Rubio went on and just basically said
[34:22] we're going to run for the time being. We're going to run Venezuela through coercion. Basically, we're gonna keep a we we have a choker collar on them and every time they misbehave, we're just going to tighten the noose, you know. Um I don't know about that, John. I think it's deeper than that. I don't think this was done on a lark. I think a lot of thought went into this. I'm writing a piece right now for Covert Action Magazine. Been working
[34:52] on it all weekend. Um, politics aside, whether or not you love or hate Donald Trump aside, there are very serious foreign policy questions at play here, we touched on them a moment ago with, you know, this laundry list of countries that have to be genuinely worried right now. And I just got a a question from uh Tempio Havo uh Temp Pio Xavo. Uh, so John, tell me if I'm wrong here. Trump's trying to piss off Xi and test what his reaction would be. thus risking an economic
[35:24] escalation that would split the world in half and could destroy Europe, China, the US. Yeah, I think that's right. And I think he's I think >> on the other hand, he's also giving President G permission to invade Taiwan. >> And I think that when push comes to shove, Trump doesn't really care about Taiwan. >> He doesn't. >> So I >> And I'm not sure he should. >> Yeah, I'm not sure he should either. I'm not sure why we so care about Taiwan when the Taiwanese government policy is
[35:55] that it is a part of China that someday will be, you know, reunified >> and they don't have the balls to declare independence. >> No. So, what do we care? >> So, um yeah, let's uh move on here. Um Nick Fuentes, uh Elliot Covert, Nick Fuentes has started recently started to distinguish between MAGA and America first. >> Yeah, we've talked about that. Um, that's true. >> Elliot, I I hate to uh agree with Nick Fuentes. I seriously seriously do, but he's right about that. >> But right now, it's like uh Mega has uh
[36:27] has had just had their dick cut off and I don't know if they're going to be able to grow it back. Um Fiso, thanks for bucks. Rambo MAGA final blood and Epstein distraction. Uh yeah, about the Let's talk about the Epstein thing. Um, is Epste now for long gone, never to be talked about again? I kind of surprised. >> Epste who? >> Yeah. >> Uh, listen, there are charges now, very serious charges against Nicholas Maduro and his wife. Maduro facing 30 to life.
[36:57] The wife facing 20. How many pedophiles have been charged because of the release of the EP Epstein documents? How many pedophiles have been identified because of the release of the Epstein documents? How about zero? That's that would be correct. Dark works 88. Do we think removing Maduro and carrying out this action is anti-aga or bad for the US? What opportunity this did this action give adversaries who were there to collect intel on our methods? I like that second one. Maybe you should take go after that one, John.
[37:29] >> That's a very good question. So, look at this way too. This was not the same as the operation to snatch Manuel Noriega back in 1989. In in the Noriega operation, we actually invaded Panama. >> And not only did we invade Panama, people forget Noriega had already taken refuge inside the Vatican embassy >> in the Holy Sea. Yeah. And so we began to torture using bullhorns and megaphones with, you
[38:03] know, death metal 247 beamed at the Vatican embassy. We tortured all of them in there until the Vatican ambassador, the archbishop told Noriega, "Get out. >> You got to go. >> We can't do this anymore. Just get out." >> Somewhat reminiscent of Assange in in the uh >> very much so >> in London. So in this case in Venezuela, we didn't send, you know, 25,000 50,000 troops to occupy the capital city. And another thing we did in Panama that we
[38:35] didn't do is we made the Panameanians disband the Panameanian military. There is no Panameanian military anymore. There's a national police force, >> but there's no Panameanian army. >> Frankly, we did them a favor there. I wish someone would do that to us. >> I know, right? >> Um >> so, uh I think that I think that this is that's a great question in that, you know, our adversaries will have learned something about American um uh
[39:08] policy planning. Uh but this is this is very different from ' 89. It's very different from 83 when we invaded Grenada and overthrew the government there. uh this was a lightning strike and we got everything we wanted. >> Look, to answer the first question, I want to say certainly it's anti-MAGA. Um it's very bad for the United States though. >> Very bad. >> Um because I mean and I think for a number of reasons, but topping out with the fact that we lose all moral authority. It's going to make us even
[39:38] it's going to trigger more anti-Americanism, possibly terrorism against the US and its interests. And it's also just puts us in a position where, you know, we we basically the American people can be blamed because we're sitting by passively. There were no significant protests of any note since this happened over the weekend. The American people are passive and docel. The Democratic Party has nothing to say about any of this. So, you know, in the same way that people looked at Nazi Germany and said, "Oh, the German
[40:09] people are okay with all this." People around the world look at us and they're like, "Oh, the American people are okay with this." That's the part that terrifies me. >> Yeah. Yeah. I agree. >> Um, question for you, John, from Fazmat. Any idea what's going on? Oh, yeah. We talked about the Greek airspace issue. I'm not going to repeat that. Uh, okay. Greg Pattis, thanks for this question. What will ultimately happen to Maduro? >> Well, he what happened to Noriega? I mean, >> I think I think yeah, what what you see is what you get. They're talking about major high level on on the federal um
[40:42] sentencing scale. You're talking about a crime of between level say 36 and 40 with 36 being um 30 years and 40 being the death penalty, the federal death penalty. He won't get the death penalty of course, but but it doesn't get very much more serious than this. I mean, it's interesting, right, that like the stuff that they the cases belli to the extent that they were ever cited by by uh by by Trump did not match the
[41:13] indictment. >> No. >> Right. There's no mention of u of fentanyl at all in the indict in the federal indictment >> because the fentanyl comes from Mexico and China >> and even the drug running to the US is basically like a it's an afterthought, right? I mean, so you know, basically it's barely me. Oh, uh, cartel de la Solis. I don't think that phrase appears anywhere in the indictment. >> No, I read the indictment yesterday. It doesn't because it doesn't exist. >> Right. >> Hey, there was another thing, too. Did you happen to see that the judge now so
[41:46] far, we don't know who's going to be the trial judge, but the judge that is arraigning Maduro this morning is 92 years old. Jesus Christ. >> And a Clinton appointee. >> What the [ __ ] So, what do you >> Oh my god. I had I had an 85 year old judge and I thought I had my hands full in LA. Oh my god. >> Mine was Mine was 86 in in my my federal case. >> You know, as a 62 year old man, I would
[42:17] say you should as a judge, you should probably have to retire by the time you're 70. >> I think about retirement every day. I mean, I financially can't do it yet, but 92 years old, come on now. >> If I'm not retired, I mean, let me put it this way. I doubt that I will be producing good work at the age of 92. Seriously. Um although anything's possible, but I doubt it. I'd probably be one of the few. Yeah. Um F. So, uh thanks for the buck. Any no humilitation humil no humiliation ritual like per walk for Maduro's wife. By the way, I
[42:47] don't think Maduro take it as takes it as a as a humiliation. Well, but you and I were talking before the show started. I think a lot of those photos were fake. They were AI generated. >> A lot of them were faked. Yeah. It turns out that u the um the UK um Guardian did an they have a team that now analyzes AI fakes and they found that a lot of the Maduro in custody perw walk photos were fake. Also, all of the images of Venezuelans supposedly celebrating in the streets of Karakas and other
[43:18] Venezuelan cities are fake. Um there were there there were celebrations in like Miami of like two kind of rotund Venezuelan ladies like dancing in the street. Um okay. Yay. Um it's it's it's scabs, right? Um but why did they arrest her though? Why' they arrest the wife? What's what's the point here? >> The the indictment it says that she was complicit. They she conspired with him to do X Y and Z. I I'm not buying it. And I'm sure
[43:50] >> they're gonna use her to cut a deal with him so that he pleads guilty and she walks. >> Yeah, I do. I think that's the whole idea. >> So basically, >> and they'll let her go to Spain or Yeah, they'll let her go to Spain or go to, you know, wherever wherever she wants to go. Just get out. >> Yeah, that's that's it's the whole thing is so gross. Um Tariq, thanks for the money. I just finished watching the Seymour Hersh Netflix documentary, which is great. thoughts or anecdotes on him and what he represented. I want to watch that soon.
[44:21] >> You know, Sai doesn't like me. Um, and I'm not crazy about Sai just as a person. He's legendary. The Mi massacre, all that stuff. But I'll tell you one thing I don't like about him is that he will run with a story when he has one single source. Mhm. >> And half the time his story is debunked and then he looks like an idiot. >> Yeah. >> On the other hand, he's the great Sih. So we have to we have to pay homage, you know, to him. But um
[44:54] I don't know. Sai's never liked me and I've never liked him. I'm not a Laura fan because it seems like everything is always about Laura. Mhm. >> Um I thought she took maybe one cheap shot at him in this uh in this uh documentary, but I got my I got my SAG um the SAG awards. Now it's called the Actor Awards um list of nominees the other day.
[45:24] >> She's nominated for best documentary. >> She's always She's an automatic entry. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. There's certain people I wrote a column about two three months ago about that how there's people who are in the protected class. >> Yeah. >> Like it's like if in my world if Art Spiegelman shits out part of a book >> it will 100% be like at the top of all the recommended reads and the New York Times and all that. It has to be >> because it's Art Spiegelman. >> Indeed. Alex Gibly the same way. >> She is like that. Five bucks. I'm
[45:56] ashamed of the desecration of graves. So much for Christian values. Fear the man who does not fear God. Uh I don't disagree. Uh PvEio, thanks for the money. Uh does this support the Gaddafi principle? Don't give up your WMDs where you can get couped. Well, Venezuela didn't have WMDs, but uh you know, maybe they should have acquired them. Yeah. I mean, I always think that Kim Jong-un is always like, >> "This is what I [ __ ] tell you." >> Exactly. Exactly. And and I'll tell you
[46:27] what, if I were the president of Iran or if I were the supreme leader of Iran, I would say, "We need a nuclear weapon yesterday. >> Ramp it up." >> Yep. >> Yeah. I would make that number one. Yeah, that's exactly what Elliot Covert just said. Um, Angela, follow, thanks for the five bucks. Yep. We talked about this. Do we think China was in on it? I mean, in a manner of speaking, right? Um >> man, how >> Okay, here we go. World Langorn Clemens.
[46:58] Um are the French uniquely responsible for terrorism, its origins in the French Revolution and the modern tactics as an outgrowth of the French treatment of the Algerians? So the terror of course you know that followed that was marked that basically marked the beginning of the end of the French Revolution. That's certainly true, but terrorism I think as we understand it is really old. as a tactic of war. For example, I mean, think about the Mongols. The Mongols basically um developed a reputation like, you
[47:30] know, if we they would basically present themselves at the city gates and say, "Surrender and become our vassel state and you all get to live, but you're going to have to pay us taxes. Um, and if you don't, we will kill all of you, torture you, and we will rape your women in front of you, and then we will kill you violently and painfully." uh they got that reputation basically in made it true and then it got to the point where some cities just threw open their gates and they were in fact absorbed into the Mongol Empire. That's terrorism. I mean that is terrorism.
[48:01] It's like you >> I don't know what happened there. You get a reputation where people are just like, >> you know, you get the reputation for being [ __ ] crazy and scary and people do what do whatever the [ __ ] you know, >> you know, whatever the [ __ ] you want. Um, >> let's see. Um, okay. Also, let's do let's bring in uh let's bring in Robbie to talk about why we should bring in some people over to Rumble. So, here we
[48:33] go. Robbie, >> how I'm I'm back. So, I'll make this short and sweet and fast. Uh especially since Ted keeps freezing. So, the biggest reason is is that Rumble pays us a lot more than what YouTube does. So, a good way I kind of think about it, Rumble pays us based off of watch hours, right? YouTube pays us off of ads. So the more people that watch, the longer that they watch, the more Rumble pays John and Ted. And uh it's really awesome. Uh go kind of thinking about like for every nickel that YouTube pays
[49:04] us, Rumble pays us about 94 95 cents somewhere in there. So it's a significant uh significant savings or pay boost for them. Also, you can get Rumble premium content that you cannot get anywhere else. And my cats here are trying to terrorism. My cats are terrorizing me. Uh, you can also get Rumble premium content uh here on Rumble. And also lastly, if you value free speech, Rumble's the platform that did not demonetize John and Ted, that
[49:34] does not suppress John and Ted, whereas YouTube has done both of those things. So, if you value independent media, come to a platform that actually values independent media. >> Yes. >> And the cat says so, too. >> The cat So says the cat. So say we all. Um, okay. So, uh, John, this is for you. Temp. Oh, I think yeah, we already you already answered that question about President G. Um, Dalton Sparks, not sure if you all have discussed this yet, but what's your take on the US charging
[50:04] Maduro with possession of machine guns, which I find interesting, as if a sovereign nation cannot possess machine guns. And I just want to add before John, you try to answer this question that we the only charge that the American Taliban Johnny Walker Lind was convicted of was possession of an AK-47 in Afghanistan where it's practically illegal not to have an AK-47. So I mean the countries are washing them. I mean they go for like 150 bucks maybe.
[50:36] >> We've all gone mad. >> Yeah. So So what Yeah. What is the legal basis here? Like, what the [ __ ] I know we're not lawyers. >> The New York Times said yesterday that that the government may have a tougher time than they think they will convincing a jury of New Yorkers that these things are crimes. I was very interested, John, why do you think they charged in New York, which has no connection to any of this whatsoever, as opposed to the so-called
[51:08] National Security Court, which you've talked about over there in Northern Virginia. >> Yeah. Um, >> which would have been a rubber stamp for the government. I think that because there is this there has been a silly precedent that when we kidnap foreign leaders uh and charge them with drug crimes like the president of Honduras for example, New York is in fact the New York Times yesterday called the Southern District of New York the drug court.
[51:39] Right? That's the first time I had heard that. But it's it's akin to the Eastern District of Virginia being the uh espionage court. >> So I think that that's that's just what it is. That's where the expertise happens to be. And so they just did it not really maybe thinking through that they're going to have a lot of New Yorkers who may think that this is [ __ ] Oh, they they also made a point, Ted, that this is an extraordinarily
[52:12] complicated case and it's going to take at least a year just to seat a jury and then the trial could last another year beyond that. >> This is going to be brutal. Yeah. >> I mean, I would imagine that like probably, by the way, he's going to be offered remarkable legal representation. Oh, the best legal representation in America. >> And I would think that his lawyers are going to have some fun with a lot of the statements that came out of this administration.
[52:42] >> I think so. >> That seem to run completely in contradiction >> to everything that's going on here. By the way, we are uh at record viewership right now. Just saying uh giving us those numbers. >> Hey, great. >> So, that's good to hear. Um a question for both of us. What does this show the world now about what we've done in Venezuela and Trump making comments about us still wanting to take Greenland away from the Danes? I mean, we have touched on this. We should we should I mean I'm not so Okay, so John, you're
[53:14] right. If we attack Greenland, um you know, obviously that we are now at war with NATO. >> Yeah. Because that is Denmark. It is Denmark. Um, that said, I mean, can we just talk about the the the the I mean, I know you agree with me on this, the recklessness >> of like of throwing around idle threats about invading other countries that have done no harm whatsoever >> in on completely baseless terms of
[53:45] justification. I mean, how toxic is that? Thomas Jefferson was the first president to deploy American troops to attack the Barbarie pirates. Yes. But they really were barbar they really were inflicting on American shipping. >> Um you know I mean say whatever we want about Abraham Lincoln. >> You know the South really did secede that that actually happened. But there is no cartel deastolas. There are no seas full of Chinese and Russian ships around around Greenland. Um these are
[54:16] completely madeup things. The fentanyl um all these are just fiction. I mean when you are when you how can you be taken seriously or should the US be taken seriously as a country much less the world's most powerful country when it just th throws around [ __ ] and then is willing to murder people and overthrow their governments over that on the using that [ __ ] as a basis. >> Yeah. It's I I if there's a if there's a
[54:48] longer term strategy here, I'm just not seeing what it is. I don't understand what the benefit is to the United States of threatening Greenland, of threatening the government of Denmark there. >> Yeah, we have a base there. >> We don't need any. We have a military presence. But the government of Denmark is one of the staunchest US allies in the world. And we're talking about essentially invading Denmark.
[55:20] But it was it's the same thing that we saw during the uh was it the Obama administration or the first Trump administration? I don't remember with the with the um the Hague Invasion Act saying that if any if any American citizen is uh arrested and taken before the um international what is it the international criminal court or the international court of justice in the Hague that that we automatically authorize a US use of military force to
[55:51] invade the Netherlands. >> It's it's insane. And by the way, um, Fasmataz, I'm a I'm sorry. No, I have not heard of Emily Hues, but I will look into her. The question was about this young animator. Um, you know, and and uh it's possible that Elon and AI are secretly subsidizing her Sora animated YouTube cartoon series. I don't know, Matt. Sorry. I will I will look though. Thanks for the uh five bucks, Young Courthouse. Um, and Young Courthouse
[56:23] wants to know, is there a case to be made for the international law that might defend this? I feel like international law is often often invoked, but rarely understood, including by me. That's a great question. >> That's a that's a very good question. Well, normally under international law, you have the right to conduct hostilities against a foreign country if there's an imminent threat to your country of invasion or attack or maybe to I don't even know if you could say to a maybe to an ally, right? To to an
[56:54] ally. That's about that's about as far as it goes. >> No one has posited an imminent threat from Venezuela to the United States. There are three there are three ways you can enter another country is if they are an imminent threat what's called a clear and present danger if you are invited by that country >> right >> that clearly is not true >> or if uh the action is authorized by the United Nations Security Council. That's it. Those are the three ways that you can
[57:25] you can invade another country. Speaking while we're talking about, you know, there's so many cucks to go around these days between the Democratic Party, the GOP, let's talk about the UN and the EU, um the UN the UN uh had a the security council had an emergency meeting to do what they do best, which is to jawbone. >> Um nothing will come out of this. >> Nope. Nothing ever does. >> Nothing ever does. the EU. I thought it was very interesting to me that the EU um which has been at odds with President
[57:56] Trump on a number of issues has had very little to say on all this. Um you know, President Mccron doesn't seem to have much to say about it. Um what do you make of that? Why do you think the Euros are are are keeping their holding their holding their tongues? >> I think it depends on the country. the likes of of Mcronone and you know the UK I think that they've just made a policy decision to let the Americans do what the Americans are going to do and not
[58:27] get sucked into it. For the smaller countries like Greece for example, um I think that they see a real benefit in just cheering the administration on. um joining it at the hip and then hoping for the best. >> That's We've got to talk about this tomorrow. I I wonder how that plays domestically in these countries. >> In Greece, man, they are loving they are loving some Donald Trump. That's all I
[58:58] can say. >> It's a these are these are very strange times. And we'll be back tomorrow to continue the analysis and dissection of these very strange times. Uh this is the end of the program with Ched Roll and John Kuryaku. until tomorrow morning at 9:00 a.m. Eastern time. We'll be back from 9 to 10 as usual tomorrow. Please stay tuned. Um we will I will be discussing Venezuela and a few other things on the TMI show with Manella Chan. As always, thanks for watching, liking, and sharing the show. Please don't forget Robbie aid. Please kick
[59:29] let's get to a thousand bucks quickly. Goofundme.com. Go search for deprogram Robbie. Thanks very much. See you later, John. Have a good day, Ted. You, too.