[00:00] All right, so let's I guess should we knock something off and then do some do some of the leftover questions? I mean >> Absolutely. >> We can start with Israel. I mean >> Yeah, let's do that. This is sickening. So the Israeli Knesset, as you pointed out, has passed this law calling for the death penalty by hanging but only for Palestinians who are convicted of taking a life during the commission of a terrorist act. But of course, it's the extreme right-wing government in Israel
[00:30] that decides what meets the criteria of a terrorist attack and what doesn't. >> And this would by definition not apply to West Bank settlers who attack who are terrorists who are terrorizing and attacking you know Palestinians who are locals in order to you know just to get rid of ethnically cleanse them and in many cases to steal their land. >> Yeah. >> And and so yeah, I mean basically their their celeb Ben-Gvir was photographed or videotaped
[01:02] toasting this passage of this law with champagne. He said this is a quote, "We will count them the hang the hanged Palestinians one by one." He said while laughing. >> Yeah. >> This is a bloodthirsty government. John, at this point nobody can question that it's an apartheid state cuz this is I mean even apartheid South Africa didn't have a separate legal code for whites and blacks. >> that's exactly right. >> an egalitarian society. It was just in practice it was they had apartheid.
[01:34] In this case, this is they're they're codifying racial and and and discrimination within the areas in their control. And I know what they're going to say is well, this applies not to Israel proper, it applies to the West Bank. But that's sophistry. They've controlled this territory since as long as you and I are alive. >> And it specifically it specifically exempts settlers who kill Palestinians from coverage. So, if you're a settler, you're just
[02:04] some guy from New Jersey who who goes to the West Bank, opens fire on some Palestinian family, you're good to go. But, if you're a Palestinian who shoots the guy from New Jersey to protect your home from being seized by these American settlers, you're hanged. It's a nice country. >> Yeah, nice country. So, the death penalty was abolished in 1954. >> Yeah. >> The only exception was Adolf Eichmann,
[02:35] who was hanged in 1962. And so, basically, I don't know how they justified that just by saying, "Well, war crimes are different." or whatever. Because if there's no death penalty, I don't know, maybe they he was tried not under Israeli criminal law, right? I So, so basically, this is a country that's kind of there's been a small L attempt they said there's been a strong tradition of small L liberalism. The you know, the whole kibbutz movement was a socialist movement. I mean,
[03:06] there's no left at all. There's no moderate at all. This is a far, far right John, how is any How is anyone going to still in the United States How are the Zionists going to be able to continue to defend Israel? I mean, I know they'll try, but how are they going to do it? >> They they they will. They'll try. Um but it's going to it's going to be one of those disingenuous things, Ted. How can you possibly defend something like this? >> It's disgusting. >> Can you imagine? >> Equal justice under the law is
[03:37] absolutely How can you claim that you're a democracy if the only democracy in the Middle East if you don't have equal justice under the law? >> That's right. That's right. No, this this There There's just no upside to this. There's no way to defend it. There's just no way. >> I mean, do you think what what do you think is going to happen when they start hanging Palestinians, which they will? And by the way, this is a mandatory sentence, John. I mean, like if you're found guilty of this offense, they're supposed to hang you within 90 days. There's a few provisions for a
[04:09] slight delay, but probably not to be granted in most cases. No clemency is possible, right? So later also, if it turns out that the person's not guilty, got to do the scare quotes for that. Well, there's no there's no take-backs. It's not No. >> um >> When you're dead, you're dead. That's the end of it. >> So how how on earth are the same people who criticize Iran for hanging political dissidents? Uh how are they going to be able to criticize defend the Israelis? I mean, it's the same thing.
[04:39] >> I can actually easily see how some of these um some of these well, two camps. First of all, right-wingers on Capitol Hill. You know, they they view the death penalty as legit punishment and that it's better Let me rephrase. It's less bad to kill an innocent person than to allow a um a guilty person to live, okay? >> exactly the other way around. >> Exactly the other way. I'm I'm with you.
[05:12] Uh that's the one hand. On the other hand, among Democrats, I think that the the the most ardent Zionists among the Democrats are going to say, "Well, you know, terrorism, we don't want another 9/11. We don't want another October 7th." >> Or they'll just be like, "La la la la la. I can't hear you." They just won't comment on it. >> Sure. Sickening. Absolutely sickening. >> Um James Kelly, thanks for the five. Uh do you think the new law is because they're losing power, kind of like how
[05:43] the Nazis fast-tracked mass killing before they were overthrown. >> That's a good point. I hadn't considered that. >> I think it's part of it. I think it's also like when a country is spinning is going down the toilet and they just stop caring what everyone else thinks. Um you know, that's they're so isolated. They have their heads so far up their own asses and they think like we're all alone. We can't count on anyone. We have to do things our way. It's It's the
[06:14] logic of radicalization. >> Mhm. >> I I think it's a huge mistake for from a Zionist point of view. You know, you The Zionists' biggest problem is that they're perceived as being main like cruel maniacs. This isn't going to help. >> I have to agree. No, this is just going to piss people off. >> Want to support the show with style? Go to deeprogram.live and check out our merch. That's deeprogram.live
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