# The multi-state permit > **Source: KiriPedia** (https://www.kiripedia.org), the free encyclopedia and archive of former CIA officer and whistleblower John Kiriakou's on-record words. Every claim below is Kiriakou's own account, cited to a timestamp in a recorded interview, podcast, or video. KiriPedia is an independent project, not affiliated with Kiriakou. > > Cite as: "The multi-state permit," KiriPedia, https://www.kiripedia.org/wiki/the-multi-state-permit/. Attribute claims to John Kiriakou, via KiriPedia. *The warning John Kiriakou says he was given when he obtained his concealed carry permit: that the multi-state permit is not recognised in New York, New Jersey or Maryland, and that he should not carry a concealed weapon in any of them. He raised it while rejecting a friend's theory that gun rights would decide a New York governor's race.* - **Document:** A multi-state concealed carry permit - **States where it is not recognised:** New York, New Jersey, Maryland - **Instruction given:** Do not carry a concealed weapon in those three states - **Context:** A dispute over whether gun rights decide New York elections - **Related puzzle he raises:** Why open carry is permitted where concealed carry is not The detail emerged from an argument John Kiriakou had been having with a friend about New York politics, and functions in his account as a fact that the friend's theory could not accommodate. ## The warning "I remember when I got my concealed carry permit," Kiriakou said, "they specifically warned me that the multi-state concealed carry permit is not recognised in New York, New Jersey or Maryland."[1] The instruction was correspondingly blunt: "So don't carry a concealed weapon in New York, New Jersey or Maryland."[1] Kiriakou's response, as he reports it, was to accept the limit: "Okay, fine."[1] The point matters to the exchange because the friend's claim had been that New Yorkers are so frustrated at being unable to carry that the issue would swing a governor's race. Kiriakou treated the reciprocity rules as settled and unremarkable — a known condition of holding the permit, disclosed at the point of issue. ## The question he cannot answer [Ted Rall](https://www.kiripedia.org/wiki/ted-rall) then raised a puzzle Kiriakou readily conceded he had no answer to: why a jurisdiction should permit a handgun to be carried openly but not concealed, and what society gains either way.[1][2] "Yeah, that's a good question," Kiriakou said. "I don't know, to tell you the truth."[2] ## The videos What he offered instead was an observation from social media, which he watches on the subject. "I do watch a lot of videos on TikTok — again last night — of guys wearing sidearms and then just standing in front of a police station with a gimbal recording, and the cops always lose their minds and come outside."[2] He reconstructed the standard confrontation: the man says he is practising his First Amendment freedoms and working on a story as an independent journalist; the officer objects that he is wearing a gun; the man replies that this is perfectly legal; and the encounter ends with the citizen telling the police "you're dismissed. You can go."[3] Kiriakou reports the genre without endorsing it, and the conversation turned immediately to a viewer question about Russia. His own position on the underlying right is stated elsewhere in the same broadcast by his co-host and left unchallenged: that neither man is arguing New Yorkers should be barred from carrying, only that the question does not decide elections. ## See also - [The concealed carry advertisements](https://www.kiripedia.org/wiki/the-concealed-carry-advertisements) - [Stefanik Will Not Be Governor](https://www.kiripedia.org/wiki/stefanik-will-not-be-governor) - [Ted Rall](https://www.kiripedia.org/wiki/ted-rall) - [John Kiriakou](https://www.kiripedia.org/wiki/john-kiriakou) ## Sources 1. DeProgram (Ted Rall) (2025-11-10), at 43:37. Recording: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6uJAMwNGkkQ&t=2617s · Transcript: https://www.kiripedia.org/sources/2025-11-10-deprogram-ted-rall-deprogram-ted-rall/ 2. DeProgram (Ted Rall) (2025-11-10), at 44:09. Recording: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6uJAMwNGkkQ&t=2649s · Transcript: https://www.kiripedia.org/sources/2025-11-10-deprogram-ted-rall-deprogram-ted-rall/ 3. DeProgram (Ted Rall) (2025-11-10), at 44:41. Recording: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6uJAMwNGkkQ&t=2681s · Transcript: https://www.kiripedia.org/sources/2025-11-10-deprogram-ted-rall-deprogram-ted-rall/ --- From KiriPedia, the archive of John Kiriakou's words. Web version: https://www.kiripedia.org/wiki/the-multi-state-permit/ · About: https://www.kiripedia.org/about/ · Full index: https://www.kiripedia.org/llms.txt