# Twenty-five al-Qaeda members

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*The Senate Foreign Relations Committee study John Kiriakou cites as finding that by the end of 2001 there were twenty-five active al-Qaeda members still in Afghanistan — the basis for his claim that the group was finished as a fighting force by Christmas.*

- **Source he cites:** A Senate Foreign Relations Committee study, predating his own service on the staff
- **Figure:** 25 active al-Qaeda members in Afghanistan at the end of 2001
- **His conclusion:** Core al-Qaeda was destroyed by Christmas 2001
- **Caveats he gives:** Regional affiliates remained; bin Laden and Zawahiri were still alive

Asked when he had seen the [CIA](https://www.kiripedia.org/wiki/cia) turn into a paramilitary organisation, [John Kiriakou](https://www.kiripedia.org/wiki/john-kiriakou) answered *"the day after 9/11"* — and then made a claim about how quickly the mission that justified the transformation was actually accomplished.

## The claim

Among core al-Qaeda — the element based in Afghanistan — *"they were destroyed by Christmas,"* he said.[1]

## The study

For the figure he points to a Senate Foreign Relations Committee study produced years before he joined that committee's staff — one which, he remarks, *"probably should have been classified and wasn't."* It found that by the end of 2001 there were twenty-five active al-Qaeda members still in Afghanistan. He repeats the number: *"Twenty-five. It had been destroyed."*[1]

Everyone else who had made their way across the border into Pakistan, he adds, was being captured — work he was himself directing as chief of counterterrorism operations there. *"So it was done."*[1]

## The qualifications

Kiriakou does not overstate the claim. There was al-Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula, he notes, al-Qaeda in the Islamic Levant, al-Qaeda in North Africa — all of them al-Qaeda-inspired, but not coordinating operations. And neither bin Laden nor Zawahiri had yet been killed.[2]

The conclusion he draws is narrow and specific: *"in terms of al-Qaeda as a fighting force, it was done by Christmas of '01."*[2]

## Why it matters in his account

The figure is the hinge of a longer argument. Kiriakou describes the Agency abandoning its purpose within twenty-four hours of the attacks — *"There was no more focus on recruiting spies to steal secrets"* — in favour of destroying al-Qaeda permanently. His point in producing the number is that the destruction happened, on the government's own analysis, within months, while the institutional transformation it justified continued for decades.

## See also

## See also

- [John Kiriakou](https://www.kiripedia.org/wiki/john-kiriakou)
- [Central Intelligence Agency](https://www.kiripedia.org/wiki/cia)
- [Counterterrorism Center](https://www.kiripedia.org/wiki/counterterrorism-center)
- [Pakistan Station (2002)](https://www.kiripedia.org/wiki/pakistan-station-2002)

## Sources

1. Dalton Fischer Podcast (2025-09-05), at 09:50. Recording: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GRrm29eEzQ0&t=590s · Transcript: https://www.kiripedia.org/sources/2025-09-05-dalton-fischer-podcast-dalton-fischer-podcast/
2. Dalton Fischer Podcast (2025-09-05), at 10:23. Recording: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GRrm29eEzQ0&t=623s · Transcript: https://www.kiripedia.org/sources/2025-09-05-dalton-fischer-podcast-dalton-fischer-podcast/

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