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Abbas and the three-state problem

John Kiriakou's argument that no two-state solution is available — because there is already one state, because Mahmoud Abbas is nineteen years into a four-year term and has become a billionaire, and because East Bank, West Bank and Gaza Palestinians are so disconnected that the real arithmetic is three states, which nobody will discuss.

Kiriakou’s starting position on the one-state-versus-two-state argument is that the question is already settled by facts. “There already is one state,” he says. “How’s that working out for everybody? Not very well.” [1]

Why not two

A two-state solution, in his account, is unavailable partly for reasons on the Palestinian side. His example is the Palestinian Authority’s leadership. Mahmoud Abbas is, in a formulation Kiriakou says he always uses, “19 years into a four-year term” — and has “suddenly finds himself to be a billionaire despite the fact that his people are among the poorest in the world.” [1]

Elsewhere in the same broadcast he presses the point about elections: the Palestinian Authority does not make things easier for itself by refusing to hold one. [1]

The third state

The arithmetic Kiriakou says nobody wants to face is not two but three. “You’ve got the three-state solution, which nobody wants to talk about, because there’s really no connection between East Bank — sorry, East Bank, West Bank Palestinians and Gaza Palestinians.” [2]

His conclusion is bleak and evenly distributed: “So, what’s the solution? Even the Palestinians don’t have a proposed solution.” [2]

The underlying divisions are ones he had set out minutes earlier, after a conversation with a Jordanian embassy intern: that Palestinians in the diaspora are split by generation, by religion, by whether they descend from the refugees of 1948, and by Gulf money. [1]

The reinvasion

Against that background Kiriakou turned to the day’s news, the Israeli reinvasion of Gaza City, and asked what it was for. His own answer: “just so they can kill the people who managed to escape last time and blow up the tunnels that the Israelis were responsible for digging in the first place.” [2]

On the ceasefire deal then on the table — signed off by Hamas, covering the remaining living hostages and the bodies of the dead, with a Friday deadline — Kiriakou was categorical that the reinvasion was the answer to it. “No ceasefire. No way.” [3]

His explanation is Netanyahu’s personal position: so long as the war continues and he remains prime minister, he is not prosecuted for corruption. On the hostages, Kiriakou and his co-host agree the Israeli government does not care, and has made that clear from the beginning. [3]

See also

References

  1. DeProgram Show with Ted Rall and Jamarl Thomas, 2025-08-2105:12 on YouTube · Transcript
  2. DeProgram Show with Ted Rall and Jamarl Thomas, 2025-08-2105:44 on YouTube · Transcript
  3. DeProgram Show with Ted Rall and Jamarl Thomas, 2025-08-2106:46 on YouTube · Transcript

Sourced from John Kiriakou's on-record public statements. See his profile for the full body of his interviews, podcast appearances, and short-form video.