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Abu Zubaydah

Detainee captured by John Kiriakou's CIA team in Pakistan in March 2002; the first subject of the agency's enhanced interrogation techniques program; subjected to both approved and unauthorized techniques including the cockroach-in-coffin treatment exploiting a documented insect phobia.

Abu Zubaydah — real name Zayn al-Abidin Muhammad Hussein, known to his attorneys as “Zay” — is a detainee held by the United States since March 2002, when he was captured in Pakistan by a Central Intelligence Agency team led by John Kiriakou. At the time of his capture he was believed to be a senior al-Qaeda figure — in fact, per Kiriakou, U.S. intelligence had conflated him with a first cousin who used the same nom de guerre, so that reports on “Abu Zubaydah” were really a composite of two people, making the target look like a “terrorist Superman.” His conclusion: “I think they were both bad guys — we just didn’t realize there were two of them.”[1][2] Per Kiriakou, the cousin — who was living in Montana at the time — fled to Jordan once he realized U.S. intelligence was looking for one of them, and was never heard from again.[3] The man actually caught, per Kiriakou, was a logistician who ran al-Qaeda training camps and safe houses but “was never even in al-Qaeda.”[4][5][6]

He was the first prisoner on whom the agency’s enhanced interrogation techniques program was applied; the program had been pitched to CIA Director George Tenet by Mitchell and Jessen in late October 2001, contracted in January 2002, and was first deployed against Abu Zubaydah on August 2, 2002.[7][8]

The hunt and capture

Flooding the cities

Kiriakou described a strategy he proposed to accelerate al-Qaeda captures in Pakistan. CIA officers had been stationed in villages along the Pakistan–Afghanistan border, exposed and unprotected, catching al-Qaeda fighters one at a time as they fled the U.S. bombing of Afghanistan. Kiriakou suggested pulling everyone off the border and letting the fighters flood into Pakistani cities — Rawalpindi, Islamabad, Faisalabad, Lahore, Karachi, Quetta — because “they’re going to make a mistake.” The first thing the fighters did on arrival was get cell phones and call home: “Thank you for your locational information.” The CIA then raided safe houses and grabbed dozens at a time, filling the Rawalpindi jail within roughly six weeks.[9][10][11][12][13]

The spiderweb and fourteen sites

Kiriakou brought in a targeting analyst friend, flown in within 24 hours, to locate Abu Zubaydah. The analyst took a piece of butcher-block paper “the size of a small American billboard,” wrote “Abu Zubaydah” in the center, and built concentric rings — everyone in direct contact by phone, email, or address (mostly travel agencies, since Abu Zubaydah was al-Qaeda’s logistics man), then a tertiary ring of contacts-of-contacts, all connected by lines. The result “looked like a spiderweb — very pretty, artistic.”[14][15][16][17][18] It narrowed his probable location to one of fourteen sites — a scale the team had never before attempted; per Kiriakou, “we’d never hit more than two sites in a single night before.”[19][20][21][22]

Because the operation was so highly classified and the Pakistanis were not trusted with the target’s identity, Abu Zubaydah was code-named “Mr. Fish.” Kiriakou cabled headquarters requesting a large team and $10 million in cash; thirty-six personnel arrived within 48 hours — half CIA, half FBI — along with pallets of weapons, ammunition, night-vision goggles, battering rams, and scrambled satellite communications on an unmarked 737.[23][24][25][26][27][28] He hired a real-estate agent and bought, in cash drawn from a station cash room, a ten-bedroom mansion and a seven-bedroom mansion in different cities to use as interrogation safe houses, under cover of a textile business — when the agent asked what they did for a living, Kiriakou recalled, “I looked at my friend and he goes, ‘We’re textile barons.’ And I said, ‘Yes, we are. We’re textile barons.’” The team also rented an entire floor of an A-list hotel as a temporary base.[29][30][31][32] Kiriakou has noted the operation predated the use of Navy SEALs on such raids — the CIA turned to SEAL support only about seven months later, for the capture of Khalid Sheikh Mohammed — so the Abu Zubaydah raid was carried out entirely by CIA and FBI personnel alongside the Pakistanis.[33][34]

During reconnaissance of the fourteen sites, the team cut one immediately from the target list: a shish-kebab stand with a pay phone. Al-Qaeda was clearly using the phone, but “you can’t raid the shishkabob stand at 2 o’clock in the morning — it’s closed.” On another occasion the team mistakenly raided an 80-year-old man’s home and bought the family shoes by way of apology.[22][35][36][37] A walk-in tip that was really an intercept led to a yellow house holding 27 people, and a final break — Abu Zubaydah accessing his Hotmail account via a spliced landline — pinpointed the last site.[38][39] The full hunt lasted approximately six weeks, with intelligence placing him in either Lahore or Faisalabad; he was constantly moving, and the team broke down doors of safe houses and apartments repeatedly, some days a day or two late, some days missing him by fifteen minutes — the cigarette on the table still lit.[40][1]

The raid — Punjab Elite Force

On the night of the capture, in late March 2002 at 2:00 a.m. (Kiriakou has given the time as both 2:00 a.m. and 2:20 a.m. across separate accounts), all fourteen sites were hit simultaneously.[19][41] Kiriakou stood on a coffee table addressing thirty-six CIA and FBI officers plus approximately fifty members of the Pakistani Punjab Elite Force — a special-forces unit who wore t-shirts bearing a 9mm pistol image and did not wear bulletproof vests. His only stated rule: don’t shoot them; his orders were to take them alive.[41][42]

Abu Zubaydah was in the final site. When the door was breached, he, a Syrian bomber, and a bodyguard went to the roof and attempted to jump to the neighboring building. A Pakistani policeman on the street opened fire with an AK-47. The Syrian bomber was killed instantly — dead before he hit the ground. Abu Zubaydah was shot three times.[20][42][43] Kiriakou has said he has wrestled since with the question of whether the Pakistanis knew who the target was and shot him deliberately; the CIA never told the Pakistanis who they were hunting.[43][44]

Giving a fuller account of the operation at HOPE 2025, Kiriakou — then CIA chief of counterterrorism operations in Pakistan — said he had been ordered on his first day in the role to write a standard operating procedure for raiding a safe house; with almost no tactical training, he wrote “0200” atop a legal pad and simply ordered battering rams, guns, and vests from the police-supply site Galls.com on his CIA credit card. Early raids netted only weeping 18-year-olds asking to call their mothers.[45][46] Before the analyst’s fourteen-site breakthrough, low-tech ideas — including a scheme built around a highway toll booth — had failed.[47][48]

Hoods and the Geneva Convention

Kiriakou noted that dozens of other al-Qaeda fighters were taken on the same night as Abu Zubaydah’s capture — so many that prisoners had to be brought to the CIA safe house for interrogation in shifts, ten at a time in a paddy wagon, because the facility could not hold them all at once.[13] When the first group arrived, they had bags over their heads. Kiriakou asked the transporting officer why: “We don’t want them to see our faces.” Kiriakou replied, “Are you seriously telling me that you have never read the Geneva Convention? It is a war crime to put hoods on them. Take the hoods off.”[49] The officer refused — “Don’t take the hoods off” — and told Kiriakou, “I’m going to report you to headquarters.” Kiriakou replied, “Oh, I’m already reporting you to headquarters for committing a war crime. Take the hoods off.” The hoods were removed; both officers reported each other, and Kiriakou was reprimanded.[49][50]

Ear scan and identification

The only photograph of Abu Zubaydah on file was an old passport photo showing a handsome, thin, clean-shaven young man with close-cropped hair; the man on the ground was overweight, long-haired, and unshaven, and the team was uncertain it was him. The targeting analyst instructed Kiriakou to attempt a retinal scan, but Abu Zubaydah’s eyes were rolled back and he was bleeding to death. The analyst then said to photograph his ear instead — Kiriakou did not know until that night that no two people on earth have the same ears, that they are as distinctive as fingerprints. The ear photograph was sent to headquarters; confirmation came back within minutes.[51][52][53]

Shifa Hospital and the transfer

Abu Zubaydah was rushed to Shifa Hospital, which Kiriakou described as “filthy, terrible, disgusting.” Word reached the al-Qaeda network that he had been captured, and vehicles began driving past the hospital and opening fire on the building. Kiriakou told the Pakistani major he was working with, “If they realize how lightly armed we are, we’re dead — we only had a couple of handguns.” The major called a helicopter, which arrived twenty minutes later; Kiriakou entered the operating room, told the doctor to wrap up, and the team loaded Abu Zubaydah for transfer to a Pakistani military base roughly an hour away, where surgeons saved his life. He was later moved through six black sites before reaching Guantanamo in 2005.[54][55][56][53][57][58]

Pakistani intelligence in fact helicoptered the group to this second, better-equipped hospital only after Abu Zubaydah’s own associates attacked the first facility with gunfire; a young Pakistani doctor there told Kiriakou he had a better chance of winning a lottery than of keeping the badly wounded patient alive.[59][60] Abu Zubaydah’s Syrian bodyguard, also wounded in the raid, later told Kiriakou that Pakistani forces had pinned him down and shot him through the leg with an AK-47 at close range despite Kiriakou’s explicit order not to shoot the captives, leaving a powder burn the size of a dinner plate; Kiriakou has wondered whether the Pakistanis meant to prevent the bodyguard, and perhaps Abu Zubaydah, from surviving to reveal a possible Pakistani-intelligence collusion.[61][62] By this account, CIA headquarters had ordered “24/7 CIA eyes on” Abu Zubaydah in those exact words, and Executive Director Buzzy Krongard — the CIA’s third-ranking officer, who sat on the board of Johns Hopkins University Medical Center — personally arranged for a Johns Hopkins trauma surgeon to be flown in by CIA jet, arriving in Pakistan roughly sixteen hours later.[63][64][65] The ward had no air conditioning, and mosquitoes drawn to the blood on Kiriakou’s and Abu Zubaydah’s clothing swarmed through the open windows; a CIA colleague named Amir, brought in from a domestic assignment to help with the capture, relieved Kiriakou at points during the vigil and brought him a change of clothes — the red SpongeBob SquarePants shirt.[66][67] Kiriakou has separately described Abu Zubaydah as blind in one pale-blue eye from a shrapnel wound sustained fighting the Soviets, his other eye a dark chestnut brown; his first request on regaining consciousness, in this telling, was for “a glass of red wine,” which the treating doctor dismissed as hallucination.[62][68]

Among the items confiscated the night of the capture was Abu Zubaydah’s diary, which Kiriakou began reading during the bedside vigil. Most of it, he said, was doodles and accomplished sketch art — “I would pay money for some of the drawings that he did” — along with poetry and letters written to his own younger self, urging respect for his mother and Islamic modesty: “Treat our mother with respect. You were rude to her today. Don’t whistle at those girls.” The diary caused a rift between the CIA and FBI over Abu Zubaydah’s mental state: the FBI concluded he was a madman, while the CIA assessed him as extraordinarily intelligent — an assessment Kiriakou says the CIA got right. Kiriakou has separately said Abu Zubaydah had established and staffed two of al-Qaeda’s training camps in southern Afghanistan as well as its Peshawar safe house, known as “the house of martyrs.”[69][70][71]

Among Abu Zubaydah’s personal effects at the time of capture was an address book containing the names and cell-phone numbers of three members of the Saudi royal family. Per Kiriakou, the CIA took the contents to the Saudi government: “In the address book part there were the names and cell-phone numbers of three Saudi princes. So to make a long story short, we went to the Saudis and we said, ‘We’re going to start killing people, and some of them may be named al-Saud, if you don’t get on the stick.’ Well, within a week all three of them were dead.” Per Kiriakou, one “died at 43 of a heart attack,” one “was killed in a single-car accident on the Riyadh–Jeddah highway — his brakes didn’t work anymore,” and one “died of thirst while camping in the desert.”[72][73][74]

The bedside vigil

CIA Director George Tenet relayed an order through the targeting analyst: twenty-four-seven CIA eyes on Abu Zubaydah. Kiriakou sat at his bedside for what he has described in different tellings as fifty-six hours and as twenty-four hours, at one point tearing up a sheet to tie him to the bed and sitting in a chair at the foot of it, afraid of falling asleep.[75][56][76][77] By one account Kiriakou was, by then, exhausted and hungry, wearing a clean red SpongeBob SquarePants shirt he had found at the safe house.[77]

When Abu Zubaydah finally came out of his coma, his first lucid words — in perfect English — were “I will not speak to you in God’s language.”[78][79] In a separate telling, Kiriakou moved the oxygen mask aside and said, “Shukran — what is your name?” Abu Zubaydah shook his head; Kiriakou repeated the question in Arabic, and Abu Zubaydah replied in English, “I’m not going to speak to you in God’s language.” Kiriakou answered, “That’s okay, Abu Zubaydah. We know who you are.”[76][80] By the SpongeBob-shirt telling, Zubaydah stared at the shirt rather than at Kiriakou — “he doesn’t look at me, he looks at SpongeBob” — and his pulse surged from 120 to 220 beats per minute, prompting the monitors to sound “Code blue, code blue.”[81][82][83]

His next request, through the oxygen mask, was consistent across tellings: “Please brother, kill me. Take the pillow and kill me — smother me.” Kiriakou refused: “No, nobody’s going to kill you. We’ve been looking for you for a long time. You’re going to get the best medical care the American government can provide.”[84][76][80]

Abu Zubaydah cried at length, saying he would never know the touch of a woman or the joy of fatherhood, and asked Kiriakou to convey a message to his mother.[80][81] Kiriakou told him, “Your life is over and the rest of it can be easy or it can be terrible. My friends, they aren’t nice like I am — I’m the nicest guy you’re going to meet in this experience. So if you do anything, it’s that you have to cooperate.” Abu Zubaydah replied, “You seem like a nice man, but you’re the enemy and I’ll never cooperate.” Kiriakou’s response: “Suit yourself.”[84][85][86][87]

Over the following day Abu Zubaydah recited poetry he had written, spoke about his family, and discussed Christianity versus Islam with Kiriakou, who reflected: “I remember thinking, I should hate you. I should want to kill you. And I don’t. You’re pathetic.” He also thought, “This is the fearsome al-Qaeda. This is what we’re so afraid of. He’s practically a child."[88][86]

"I never wanted to attack the United States”

After Kiriakou pushed back on Abu Zubaydah framing himself as a victim — “there were 50,000 people in those towers. Did you really think we weren’t going to try to find you?” — Abu Zubaydah answered, “I never wanted to attack the United States. I wanted to attack Israel. All I ever wanted to do was to kill Jews.”[89] He gave the same account, elaborated, in a later conversation Kiriakou recounted separately: “I never wanted to attack the United States. I wanted to attack Israel,” adding, “I never had anything against the United States until I saw a video of an Israeli soldier with his boot on the neck of a Palestinian grandmother.” Kiriakou’s reaction: “How are you going to argue with that?”[90][91][92] In the fuller telling that follows the transfer sequence, Kiriakou told him directly he was “not the victim here — there were fifty thousand people in those towers. What did you think we were going to do?”, and Abu Zubaydah again said he had wanted to attack Israel, not the United States, but had been overruled.[80][88]

The ringing phone

Kiriakou has separately described the raid as a joint 36-person CIA-FBI team he personally led, capturing Abu Zubaydah along with his bodyguard and dozens of others.[93] Among the items seized that night was Abu Zubaydah’s cell phone, sealed into an FBI evidence bag in the chaos of the raid — and which then began ringing. An FBI agent, Jen, told Kiriakou that if he opened the bag to answer it she would arrest him and charge him with obstruction of justice; the phone stopped ringing before anyone answered.[94] Kiriakou has said that had he been allowed to answer, he would have tried to keep the caller talking — in his fluent Arabic — long enough for the NSA to geolocate the call, reasoning that word of the capture had likely already spread within al-Qaeda.[95]

Transfer

An unmarked private jet landed on the tarmac. Three FBI agents and Kiriakou loaded Abu Zubaydah onto the plane, laying him across the luggage rack in the back and tying him down. Kiriakou leaned over and said one last time, “Remember — you have to cooperate.” Abu Zubaydah squeezed his hand. The plane took off; Kiriakou never saw him again.[87] In a separate telling of that handoff, Kiriakou recalled a man dressed entirely in black, wearing a balaclava, boarding the plane to take custody of the prisoner; lifting the mask revealed him to be Kiriakou’s last CIA Counterterrorism Center boss, who told Kiriakou he had no “need to know” whom the prisoner was being handed to. By this account Kiriakou sat with Abu Zubaydah for 56 consecutive hours in total and was the first person to engage him in any meaningful conversation — the last time he ever saw him.[96][97]

Because it was the CIA’s first capture of a high-value target, Kiriakou has described the operation as the biggest success of his career: he received a medal, a promotion, and a personal handshake from the CIA director, and was brought back to headquarters as executive assistant to the deputy director for operations — a post that gave him visibility into cables from across the agency, including from the secret site where Abu Zubaydah was later held.[98][99]

Interrogation and torture

The Soufan period

In the early months of detention, Abu Zubaydah was handled by FBI special agent Ali Soufan under the rationale that the September 11 attacks remained an open criminal investigation in which the Bureau retained primacy. Soufan’s standard FBI rapport-building approach — coffee, oranges, permission to write to family — produced, after weeks of initial silence, the only operationally actionable intelligence ever obtained from Abu Zubaydah.[100][101]

Per Kiriakou, that cooperation produced three significant intelligence outputs. First, Abu Zubaydah provided the al-Qaeda organizational structure below the level of Osama bin Laden and Ayman al-Zawahiri — an al-Qaeda cell-structure framework, illustrated with a Dusseldorf example, that the CIA had not previously mapped.[102][103] Second, he described al-Qaeda’s general methodology for planning attacks, naming specific individuals, telephone numbers, addresses, and weapons sources in response to hypothetical scenarios Soufan posed — intelligence passed to allied services to neutralize active cells.[104] Third, and most consequentially, he identified the true name of a figure the CIA had known only as Mukhtar: when Soufan asked about him, Abu Zubaydah laughed and said, “You don’t know who Mukhtar is? It’s Khaled Shik Muhammad” — voluntarily naming Khalid Sheikh Mohammed and ending a six-year U.S. intelligence blind spot dating to the 1996 Bojinka plot. That identification led directly to Mohammed’s eventual capture.[105][106]

Kiriakou has repeatedly stressed that this — not the waterboarding that followed — was the source of the valuable intelligence: for the first time the CIA got al-Qaeda’s “wiring diagram,” its whole organizational structure, and the name of the man they had only known as “Mukhtar.” Torture, by contrast, produces so much nonsense “just to get you to stop” that analysts need six months to sort it, by which time the next bomb has gone off.[107][108][109] Kiriakou has traced the false impression that torture was working to a bureaucratic accident: the CIA and FBI’s computer systems were so incompatible, after decades of institutional mutual hostility, that Soufan’s daily debriefing cables were not reaching CIA channels through normal distribution — so once the waterboarding began, CIA officers at headquarters simply retyped Soufan’s earlier FBI cables into the CIA’s own system and presented the FBI’s rapport-derived intelligence as confirmation that the agency’s own methods, including the newly begun waterboarding, were working.[110][111][112]

Handover and the certification offer

Cooperation with Soufan continued until George Tenet persuaded President Bush, on July 31, 2002, to hand Abu Zubaydah to the CIA. During the debriefing period, a senior CIA Counterterrorism Center officer casually asked Kiriakou whether he wanted to be certified in the use of “enhanced interrogation techniques”: “hey very casually hey i’m glad i ran into you do you want to be certified in the use of enhanced interrogation techniques.” The officer told him the program had been cleared by the Justice Department and signed off by the President.[113][114] Kiriakou raised moral and legal objections, citing the Federal Torture Act of 1946, which he said “specifically outlaws exactly those techniques that we used against al-Qaeda prisoners.”[115] He noted the program was so compartmentalized that clearances above Top Secret were required even to know of its existence, and identified his supervisor, Jose Rodriguez, and the program’s psychologists, James Mitchell and Bruce Jessen.[116] Kiriakou recalled that intelligence from allied agencies — “our friends across the river,” meaning the NSA — had placed Abu Zubaydah in Pakistan in the first place.[117]

Mitchell and Jessen began torturing Abu Zubaydah on August 2, 2002. Kiriakou has summarized the sequence: Soufan built rapport and Abu Zubaydah gave up actionable intelligence — until Tenet handed him to the CIA, whose contractors began waterboarding him 83 times and once stopped his heart, after which “he never told us anything.”[118][119][120][121]

Approved techniques and waterboarding

Among the techniques approved by the U.S. Department of Justice and applied to Abu Zubaydah was waterboarding. During one session his heart stopped; the on-scene doctor revived him so the session could continue, and interrogators then continued waterboarding him. “Didn’t the Germans do that? Come on now. Now we’re doing it.” He was waterboarded eighty-three times in total.[122][123][124] Kiriakou presented this sequence as evidence that the program’s purpose was not intelligence collection: a subject who has just been resuscitated from cardiac arrest and is waterboarded again is not being interrogated for information.[125]

Per Kiriakou, the CIA isolated Abu Zubaydah from June 18 to August 4, 2002 — 47 days — during which the FBI team left Detention Site Green and did not return; a CIA cable dated July 15, 2002 stated the agency needed assurance he would remain “in isolation and incommunicado for the remainder of his life.”[126] His most aggressive interrogation phase began at approximately 11:50 a.m. on August 4, 2002, and he was first waterboarded that evening at around 6:20 p.m., coughing, vomiting, and spasming over a two-and-a-half-hour session; a contemporaneous medical officer’s note recorded he “seems very resistant to the waterboard,” with the longest single application of the cloth lasting 17 seconds and “NO useful information so far.”[127][128] Over roughly three weeks of continuous torture he spent more than 11 days in the coffin-sized confinement box and 29 hours in the smaller, dog-cage-sized box, during which he “cried, begged, pleaded, and whimpered” and at times became “hysterical and distressed to the level that he was unable to effectively communicate”; during at least one waterboarding session he became “completely unresponsive with bubbles rising through his open full mouth.”[129] The CIA videotaped the sessions, ultimately producing 92 tapes, 12 of which depicted the use of enhanced interrogation techniques.[130]

Kiriakou’s original December 2007 public statement — that Abu Zubaydah was waterboarded “one time” — reflected what the secret site had reported back to headquarters; the CIA, he says, was “even lying internally,” claiming a single session had produced great intelligence, when in fact the useful intelligence had already been obtained earlier by the FBI. The true figure of 83 sessions surfaced only when a 2005 inspector-general report was declassified in 2009.[131][132][133]

The cockroach-in-coffin treatment and other unauthorized techniques

CIA interrogators determined that Abu Zubaydah had an irrational fear of insects. They placed him in a coffin, dumped a box of cockroaches inside, closed it, and left him there for ten days, wearing only a diaper — a treatment not among the techniques authorized by the Department of Justice or the President.[134] In a separate account of the same regimen, Kiriakou said interrogators placed him in a coffin with a box of bugs for two weeks, then in a dog cage — too small to stand, lie flat, or stretch his legs — for three weeks. Within weeks, through what Kiriakou described as the technique of learned helplessness, Abu Zubaydah was mentally broken.[135][136][137] Kiriakou has given a fuller description of the same dog cage — sized for a German Shepherd, leaving Abu Zubaydah unable to stand, sit, or lie down comfortably for weeks at a time, during which he soiled himself — and said interrogators also chained him to an eyebolt in the ceiling to the same end, in a cell chilled to fifty degrees with music blasting and the lights left on continuously, at times throwing ice water on him.[138][139] By this account, Abu Zubaydah reached the point where he would cry and curl into a ball as soon as Mitchell or Jessen entered his cell, telling them anything he thought they wanted to hear — babbling gibberish to his CIA torturers even as he had given Soufan real, checkable intelligence.[140]

A number of other techniques applied to Abu Zubaydah and other high-value detainees were similarly unauthorized, including rectal feeding with pureed hummus and Russian roulette.[7] Kiriakou has separately said interrogators also threatened Abu Zubaydah with an electric drill, telling him they would drill into his skull and give him a lobotomy — a threat never authorized by the Justice Department, part of what Kiriakou described elsewhere as treatment aimed less at gathering intelligence than at “ruining this guy’s life.”[141][142]

Inadmissibility and litigation

Nothing obtained from Abu Zubaydah under interrogation is admissible against him at trial, because the CIA tortured it out of him — the same is true of statements obtained from Khalid Sheikh Mohammed and Abd al-Rahim al-Nashiri. “What do we do? We continue to hold them illegally without charge, or we let him go. The bottom line here is the CIA royally fucked this up.”[143][144]

Abu Zubaydah was the named plaintiff in a 2025 case before the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit, in which he sought to sue the private contractors who tortured him. In approximately July 2025 the Ninth Circuit ruled that contractors operating under written CIA contract are legally protected as agents of the agency under Executive Order 12333. See Ninth Circuit contractor ruling (2025).[145][146]

A gifted artist, Abu Zubaydah drew his own torture in a diary the CIA seized and classified top secret; per Kiriakou, a footnote in the Senate torture report holds that he will never be released and will be cremated in secret at death. Kiriakou, who called publicly for his release on the BBC in 2015, says that even if he were guilty of something, he has served his time.[147][148][149] Years later, Abu Zubaydah’s own drawings of his torture — depicting a series of horrific positions — were declassified and brought out of Guantanamo by his pro bono attorney Mark Denbeaux, a law professor at Seton Hall University, after what Kiriakou said took years of effort; the CIA insisted on blacking out the faces of the stick-figure torturers before release. The drawings ran in the Sunday New York Times.[150][151]

Kiriakou has said that, more than fifteen years after the capture, no one had written a book-length account of Abu Zubaydah’s case, so he co-wrote one: The Convenient Terrorist: Abu Zubaydah and the Weird Wonderland of America’s Secret Wars, published by Skyhorse in 2017 with cover blurbs from Robert F. Kennedy Jr. and Oliver Stone. His co-author, Joe Hickman, was the Guantanamo guard who had taken custody of Abu Zubaydah from the CIA; Kiriakou wrote the half covering the hunt, capture, and torture, and Hickman the half covering the detention.[152][153][154]

Continued detention and non-release

As of the August 2025 source, Kiriakou is in periodic contact with Abu Zubaydah’s attorneys. Per the attorneys, Abu Zubaydah first learned of Kiriakou’s December 2007 ABC News interview confirming CIA waterboarding from a friendly Guantanamo guard, who came to his cell that day to tell him “a CIA man went public today about what happened to you.” Per Abu Zubaydah, “it was the first time he had experienced a sensation of hope.” He has since asked his attorneys to convey to Kiriakou his hope that the two of them may someday have dinner “as free men.”[155][156][157] Kiriakou has become friendly with the attorneys and now exchanges messages with Abu Zubaydah himself, to whom he has apologized: “This guy was innocent. He was innocent of everything we had accused him of” — but the order was to take him, and the government “can’t admit that we made a terrible, grievous error.”[58][158]

Kiriakou reports two parallel negotiations on Abu Zubaydah’s behalf: a plea to some minor charge for time served, and relocation to a third country — Palestinians who cannot go home have been resettled in places such as Albania, Switzerland, or Tahiti. His attorney told Kiriakou that when he blew the whistle in 2007, a friendly guard passed word to the prisoners, giving them “New Life,” and that Abu Zubaydah looks forward to dining with Kiriakou as a free man.[159][160][161][162][163]

Abu Zubaydah was, per Kiriakou, weeks from release at the end of the Biden administration. The administration had made the decision to release him and was in negotiations with foreign governments willing to take him, on the conclusion that he was innocent — never charged with a crime, tortured mercilessly by the CIA — but had not closed any agreement before the November 2024 election. “And then Trump won. And so he’s not going anywhere.” No country could be found willing to accept him.[164][165][166][157][167] Kiriakou is on record publicly stating that Abu Zubaydah should be released and should have been released years ago, once it became clear he was not al-Qaeda’s number three, was not guilty of war crimes or crimes against humanity, and could not be charged because the evidence against him was tainted by torture.[166] Kiriakou says he would tell Abu Zubaydah directly that he is sorry for how he was treated — arguing that if Zubaydah really was the terrorist he was described as, he should have been tried and convicted, and if not, released.[168] Per Kiriakou, the Senate torture report reveals the CIA made a policy decision that Abu Zubaydah will never leave Guantanamo alive, in part because his release would let him describe the torture he underwent on every television channel in the world.[169][170]

Kiriakou has stated he has approached Kash Patel about declassifying related material and has noted there is no statute of limitations because the underlying conduct constitutes an ongoing conspiracy.

See also

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  12. Dalton Fischer Podcast, 2023-11-1937:00 on YouTube · Transcript
  13. Part of the Problem, 2025-12-0416:30 on YouTube · Transcript
  14. Dalton Fischer Podcast, 2023-11-1942:30 on YouTube · Transcript
  15. Dalton Fischer Podcast, 2023-11-1943:00 on YouTube · Transcript
  16. Dalton Fischer Podcast, 2023-11-1943:30 on YouTube · Transcript
  17. Dalton Fischer Podcast, 2023-11-1944:00 on YouTube · Transcript
  18. Dalton Fischer Podcast, 2023-11-1944:30 on YouTube · Transcript
  19. RDAP DAN, 2018-06-142:30 on YouTube · Transcript
  20. RDAP DAN, 2018-06-143:00 on YouTube · Transcript
  21. RDAP DAN, 2018-06-143:30 on YouTube · Transcript
  22. Dalton Fischer Podcast, 2023-11-1949:00 on YouTube · Transcript
  23. Dalton Fischer Podcast, 2023-11-1945:00 on YouTube · Transcript
  24. Dalton Fischer Podcast, 2023-11-1945:30 on YouTube · Transcript
  25. Dalton Fischer Podcast, 2023-11-1946:00 on YouTube · Transcript
  26. Dalton Fischer Podcast, 2023-11-1946:30 on YouTube · Transcript
  27. Dalton Fischer Podcast, 2023-11-1947:00 on YouTube · Transcript
  28. Dalton Fischer Podcast, 2023-11-1947:30 on YouTube · Transcript
  29. Julian Dorey Podcast, 2024-11-131:32:45 on YouTube · Transcript
  30. Julian Dorey Podcast, 2024-11-131:33:48 on YouTube · Transcript
  31. Julian Dorey Podcast, 2024-11-131:34:19 on YouTube · Transcript
  32. Julian Dorey Podcast, 2024-11-131:35:21 on YouTube · Transcript
  33. Red Apple Podcast Network, 2025-06-0618:16 on YouTube · Transcript
  34. Red Apple Podcast Network, 2025-06-0618:47 on YouTube · Transcript
  35. Dalton Fischer Podcast, 2023-11-1949:30 on YouTube · Transcript
  36. Bits On Tape, 2025-08-1820:00 on YouTube · Transcript
  37. Bits On Tape, 2025-08-1823:10 on YouTube · Transcript
  38. Bits On Tape, 2025-08-1826:48 on YouTube · Transcript
  39. Bits On Tape, 2025-08-1828:22 on YouTube · Transcript
  40. Hang Out with Sean Hannity, 2026-04-1628:00 on YouTube · Transcript
  41. Hang Out with Sean Hannity, 2026-04-1631:30 on YouTube · Transcript
  42. Hang Out with Sean Hannity, 2026-04-1632:00 on YouTube · Transcript
  43. Hang Out with Sean Hannity, 2026-04-1632:30 on YouTube · Transcript
  44. Hang Out with Sean Hannity, 2026-04-1633:00 on YouTube · Transcript
  45. Bits On Tape, 2025-08-1808:59 on YouTube · Transcript
  46. Bits On Tape, 2025-08-1810:02 on YouTube · Transcript
  47. Bits On Tape, 2025-08-1813:10 on YouTube · Transcript
  48. Bits On Tape, 2025-08-1819:28 on YouTube · Transcript
  49. Part of the Problem, 2025-12-0417:00 on YouTube · Transcript
  50. Part of the Problem, 2025-12-0417:30 on YouTube · Transcript
  51. RDAP DAN, 2018-06-144:30 on YouTube · Transcript
  52. RDAP DAN, 2018-06-145:00 on YouTube · Transcript
  53. Bits On Tape, 2025-08-1835:44 on YouTube · Transcript
  54. RDAP DAN, 2018-06-145:30 on YouTube · Transcript
  55. RDAP DAN, 2018-06-146:00 on YouTube · Transcript
  56. RDAP DAN, 2018-06-146:30 on YouTube · Transcript
  57. Bits On Tape, 2025-08-1836:15 on YouTube · Transcript
  58. Bits On Tape, 2025-08-1836:45 on YouTube · Transcript
  59. John Kiriakou's Dead Drop, 2026-03-02 · Transcript
  60. John Kiriakou's Dead Drop, 2026-03-02 · Transcript
  61. John Kiriakou's Dead Drop, 2026-03-02 · Transcript
  62. John Kiriakou's Dead Drop, 2026-03-02 · Transcript
  63. John Kiriakou's Dead Drop, 2026-03-02 · Transcript
  64. John Kiriakou's Dead Drop, 2026-03-02 · Transcript
  65. The Open Forum Podcast, 2023-01-1325:16 on YouTube · Transcript
  66. John Kiriakou's Dead Drop, 2026-03-02 · Transcript
  67. John Kiriakou's Dead Drop, 2026-03-02 · Transcript
  68. John Kiriakou's Dead Drop, 2026-03-02 · Transcript
  69. The Jay Dyer Show, 2026-04-2926:43 on YouTube · Transcript
  70. The Jay Dyer Show, 2026-04-2927:15 on YouTube · Transcript
  71. The Jay Dyer Show, 2026-04-2928:18 on YouTube · Transcript
  72. Julian Dorey Podcast, 2024-11-131:02:58 on YouTube · Transcript
  73. Julian Dorey Podcast, 2024-11-131:03:32 on YouTube · Transcript
  74. Julian Dorey Podcast, 2024-11-131:04:03 on YouTube · Transcript
  75. Dalton Fischer Podcast, 2023-11-191:04:43 on YouTube · Transcript
  76. RDAP DAN, 2018-06-147:00 on YouTube · Transcript
  77. Julian Dorey Podcast, 2024-11-131:49:59 on YouTube · Transcript
  78. Dalton Fischer Podcast, 2023-11-191:09:56 on YouTube · Transcript
  79. Dalton Fischer Podcast, 2023-11-191:10:28 on YouTube · Transcript
  80. RDAP DAN, 2018-06-147:30 on YouTube · Transcript
  81. Julian Dorey Podcast, 2024-11-131:50:30 on YouTube · Transcript
  82. Julian Dorey Podcast, 2024-11-131:51:00 on YouTube · Transcript
  83. Julian Dorey Podcast, 2024-11-131:51:33 on YouTube · Transcript
  84. Dalton Fischer Podcast, 2023-11-191:10:59 on YouTube · Transcript
  85. Dalton Fischer Podcast, 2023-11-191:11:31 on YouTube · Transcript
  86. RDAP DAN, 2018-06-148:30 on YouTube · Transcript
  87. RDAP DAN, 2018-06-149:00 on YouTube · Transcript
  88. RDAP DAN, 2018-06-148:00 on YouTube · Transcript
  89. Dalton Fischer Podcast, 2023-11-191:14:08 on YouTube · Transcript
  90. Tommy G, 2026-04-2058:30 on YouTube · Transcript
  91. Tommy G, 2026-04-2059:00 on YouTube · Transcript
  92. Tommy G, 2026-04-2059:30 on YouTube · Transcript
  93. Useful Idiots, 2023-01-2007:51 on YouTube · Transcript
  94. Useful Idiots, 2023-01-2008:23 on YouTube · Transcript
  95. Useful Idiots, 2023-01-2009:57 on YouTube · Transcript
  96. John Kiriakou's Dead Drop, 2026-03-02 · Transcript
  97. John Kiriakou's Dead Drop, 2026-03-02 · Transcript
  98. Truth Hurts Show, 2025-10-1650:23 on YouTube · Transcript
  99. Gold Shields, 2025-07-2508:51 on YouTube · Transcript
  100. The Joe Rogan Experience, 2025-10-1022:30 on YouTube · Transcript
  101. The Joe Rogan Experience, 2025-10-1023:00 on YouTube · Transcript
  102. The Joe Rogan Experience, 2025-10-1025:34 on YouTube · Transcript
  103. The Dr. Phil Podcast, 2025-04-2342:49 on YouTube · Transcript
  104. The Dr. Phil Podcast, 2025-04-2343:20 on YouTube · Transcript
  105. The Joe Rogan Experience, 2025-10-1026:05 on YouTube · Transcript
  106. The Dr. Phil Podcast, 2025-04-2343:51 on YouTube · Transcript
  107. Scott Michael Nathan, 2026-01-2107:53 on YouTube · Transcript
  108. Scott Michael Nathan, 2026-01-2108:25 on YouTube · Transcript
  109. Scott Michael Nathan, 2026-01-2108:56 on YouTube · Transcript
  110. Not A Grayman, 2024-12-212:13:06 on YouTube · Transcript
  111. Not A Grayman, 2024-12-212:14:10 on YouTube · Transcript
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  113. Danny Jones Podcast, 2022-05-2315:30 on YouTube · Transcript
  114. 2022-05-23-danny-jones-cia-spy-betrated · Transcript
  115. Howie Hawkins, 2021-05-1217:07 on YouTube · Transcript
  116. 2022-05-23-danny-jones-cia-spy-betrated · Transcript
  117. 2022-05-23-danny-jones-cia-spy-betrated · Transcript
  118. Truth Hurts Show, 2025-10-021:26:36 on YouTube · Transcript
  119. Truth Hurts Show, 2025-10-021:27:07 on YouTube · Transcript
  120. Truth Hurts Show, 2025-10-021:29:44 on YouTube · Transcript
  121. Truth Hurts Show, 2025-10-021:30:16 on YouTube · Transcript
  122. Dalton Fischer Podcast, 2023-11-2600:00 on YouTube · Transcript
  123. The Joe Rogan Experience, 2025-10-1011:30 on YouTube · Transcript
  124. Tucker Carlson, 2025-06-0425:42 on YouTube · Transcript
  125. Tucker Carlson, 2025-06-0426:10 on YouTube · Transcript
  126. John Kiriakou's Dead Drop, 2026-03-16 · Transcript
  127. John Kiriakou's Dead Drop, 2026-03-16 · Transcript
  128. John Kiriakou's Dead Drop, 2026-03-16 · Transcript
  129. John Kiriakou's Dead Drop, 2026-03-16 · Transcript
  130. John Kiriakou's Dead Drop, 2026-03-16 · Transcript
  131. Tegan Broadwater, 2025-08-041:59:55 on YouTube · Transcript
  132. Tegan Broadwater, 2025-08-042:00:26 on YouTube · Transcript
  133. Tegan Broadwater, 2025-08-042:00:57 on YouTube · Transcript
  134. Dalton Fischer Podcast, 2023-11-2603:07 on YouTube · Transcript
  135. RDAP DAN, 2018-06-1411:30 on YouTube · Transcript
  136. RDAP DAN, 2018-06-1412:00 on YouTube · Transcript
  137. RDAP DAN, 2018-06-1412:30 on YouTube · Transcript
  138. Scott Horton, 2019-12-3014:11 on YouTube · Transcript
  139. Scott Horton, 2019-12-3015:17 on YouTube · Transcript
  140. Scott Horton, 2019-12-3016:20 on YouTube · Transcript
  141. The Open Forum Podcast, 2023-01-1340:24 on YouTube · Transcript
  142. Scott Horton, 2019-12-3007:57 on YouTube · Transcript
  143. Dalton Fischer Podcast, 2023-11-2608:54 on YouTube · Transcript
  144. Dalton Fischer Podcast, 2023-11-2609:28 on YouTube · Transcript
  145. Dalton Fischer Podcast, 2025-08-311:05:16 on YouTube · Transcript
  146. Dalton Fischer Podcast, 2025-08-311:05:46 on YouTube · Transcript
  147. Jack Neel, 2026-06-071:39:09 on YouTube · Transcript
  148. Jack Neel, 2026-06-071:41:15 on YouTube · Transcript
  149. Jack Neel, 2026-06-071:39:42 on YouTube · Transcript
  150. Scott Horton, 2019-12-3039:29 on YouTube · Transcript
  151. Scott Horton, 2019-12-3040:32 on YouTube · Transcript
  152. Nicole Sandler, 2017-05-2657:53 on YouTube · Transcript
  153. Nicole Sandler, 2017-05-2658:23 on YouTube · Transcript
  154. Nicole Sandler, 2019-10-0234:30 on YouTube · Transcript
  155. Dalton Fischer Podcast, 2025-08-313:31:23 on YouTube · Transcript
  156. Dalton Fischer Podcast, 2025-08-313:32:26 on YouTube · Transcript
  157. Dalton Fischer Podcast, 2025-08-313:32:58 on YouTube · Transcript
  158. Bits On Tape, 2025-08-1837:17 on YouTube · Transcript
  159. News Beat, 2024-07-2925:38 on YouTube · Transcript
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  161. News Beat, 2024-07-2929:13 on YouTube · Transcript
  162. News Beat, 2024-07-2929:45 on YouTube · Transcript
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  164. The Deep Focus Show, 2026-03-1732:30 on YouTube · Transcript
  165. The Deep Focus Show, 2026-03-1733:00 on YouTube · Transcript
  166. The Deep Focus Show, 2026-03-1733:30 on YouTube · Transcript
  167. Dalton Fischer Podcast, 2025-08-313:33:28 on YouTube · Transcript
  168. Danny Jones Podcast, 2023-12-111:13:11 on YouTube · Transcript
  169. Danny Jones Podcast, 2023-12-111:13:43 on YouTube · Transcript
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