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The body in the barrel

The exchange John Kiriakou reports having with a fellow prisoner who explained his conviction by saying the police had found a body in a barrel in his storage unit — and that a hundred people had access to the unit — to which Kiriakou's only reply was that he was not judging him.

The body in the barrel is a short exchange John Kiriakou recounts from FCI Loretto, given on the DeProgram programme in July 2025 immediately after he had argued that the friendships he made in prison were genuine rather than a product of shared trauma.[1]

The conversation

Kiriakou had just said that his fellow prisoners “were genuinely good guys”, and then qualified it himself: “I mean, some of them did some very bad things.” The illustration followed at once.[1]

“I remember one of them saying — I said, ‘So what are you in here for?’ And he goes like this. He goes, ‘The cops found a body in a barrel in my storage unit. I don’t know how that body got in there.’”[1][2]

Kiriakou reports interrupting to stop the man explaining further: “I said, ‘No, no.’ I said, ‘I’m not judging you.’” The man pressed on anyway with the exculpatory detail: “A hundred people had access to that storage unit.”[2]

Kiriakou repeated himself and let it go: “I said, ‘I’m not judging you. Don’t worry.’”[2]

What he takes from it

He offers no view on whether the account was true, and does not name the man or the case. The story ends on the relationship rather than the crime: “but yeah, we’re still in touch.”[2]

His only commentary is a four-word verdict on the institution that produced the conversation: “it’s a strange place.”[2]

Where it sits in his account

The anecdote functions as the counterweight in Kiriakou’s argument about prison friendship. He had just insisted that the men he served with were not merely people he had bonded with under stress, since “the people that you trauma bond with, you tend to walk away from” — and the friendships had persisted.[1]

The barrel is his own concession that the persistence is strange: the friendships are real, the charges are real, and he declines to resolve the tension between them. It is the same posture he takes toward the Italians he remained in contact with after release.

See also

References

  1. DeProgram Show with Ted Rall and Jamarl Thomas, 2025-07-2553:33 on YouTube · Transcript
  2. DeProgram Show with Ted Rall and Jamarl Thomas, 2025-07-2554:04 on YouTube · Transcript

Sourced from John Kiriakou's on-record public statements. See his profile for the full body of his interviews, podcast appearances, and short-form video.