The bowl of dates is a detail John Kiriakou returns to when explaining why he regards rapport-based interrogation as more productive than the CIA’s enhanced techniques.
The claim
Describing the cables sent back from the black sites by the contract psychologists James Mitchell and Bruce Jessen, Kiriakou has said their reporting was clinical and dry — that the waterboarding technique had been employed and the prisoner had opened up and provided information. His response is that this did not happen: they drowned him, he had to be revived with CPR, and he then stopped talking for six months. The material reported in the cable, Kiriakou says, was taken from the FBI officer who had actually got him talking by offering him a bowl of dates. [1]
Soufan’s method
In other accounts Kiriakou names the officer as FBI Special Agent Ali Soufan and expands the list of courtesies. He describes Soufan as a master of interrogation who treated Abu Zubaydah with respect, gave him a cup of tea and an orange, and later a sheet of paper and a pen with which to write to his parents; who built rapport to the point that Abu Zubaydah trusted him and volunteered actionable intelligence. Kiriakou’s summary is: “That’s the way to do it.” [2]
He adds a general concession about the FBI — that whatever else may be said of the bureau, interrogation is the one thing it is really good at. [2]
The principle
Kiriakou has agreed with the proposition that psychological technique and relationship building get further and faster than physical torture, and that this is not a close call. [3] The counterpart he offers on the other side is his own most valued recruitment, in which an al-Qaeda member told him he had been the first person in five years to ask about his children. [4]