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John Kiriakou's explanation for why there are no rats in Athens — the enormous population of street cats that tourists feed at restaurant tables — offered as a contrast to Washington, where he says the rats are the size of small dogs.
The cats of Athens are the street cat population John Kiriakou credits with keeping the Greek capital free of rats — a point he had made on the show the previous week and was asked to repeat.
The claim
“There there are no rats in in Athens because there are, you know, 150,000 cats or whatever it is, a million cats, I don’t know.”[1] He gives the figure loosely and twice, without settling it.
What tourists do with them
“And you know, tourists love the cats. They they’ll come up to your to your table at a restaurant and you give them a little smelt or a shrimp or whatever and they purr and you know brush up against you. But as a result there are no rats in Greece.”[1][2]
The contrast
What interests Kiriakou is the reversal of expectation for an American. “It’s just a completely alien thought to to you know think that oh you sit down at a restaurant you see a rat run across the uh the pavement.”[2]
He moved directly from there to his own city, which he ranks second only to New York — see Washington, rat central.[2]
Sourced from John Kiriakou's on-record public statements. See his profile for the full body of his interviews, podcast appearances, and short-form video.