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The moment at a White House briefing that John Kiriakou offers as the whole difference between the two men at the top of the Bush administration — a self-deprecating crack about William Howard Taft that left the president helpless with laughter and the vice president standing like a statue.
The Taft joke is the scene John Kiriakou reaches for when asked what the two men at the top of the Bush administration were actually like in a room. His characterisation comes first: “Cheney was a mean, cold, sociopathic son of a—. Nothing at all like George W. Bush. Bush was warm and friendly. Not terribly bright, but the nicest guy in the world.”[1]
The demonstration is a briefing he attended with a colleague he describes as “very portly” and wearing “kind of a handlebar mustache.” The president made a joke about the moustache, comparing him to some entertainer whose name Kiriakou no longer recalls, and the man answered with one of his own.[2]
“Actually, I think I’ve got a William Howard Taft thing going.”
Kiriakou glosses the reference for the listener — the stories “that William Howard Taft got stuck in a bathtub and it took six men to pull him out. It’s probably not true, but this is the story in history” — and then gives the two reactions that are the point of telling it: “and W laughed to the point where I thought water was going to squirt out of his nose or something. And Cheney just stood there like a statue.”[3][4]
Sourced from John Kiriakou's on-record public statements. See his profile for the full body of his interviews, podcast appearances, and short-form video.
