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"Dig a hole and put him in the hole"
From KiriPedia, the archive of John Kiriakou's on-record words
Based on 1 recorded interview · Last updated
The classified CIA cable John Kiriakou has repeatedly cited as the one that convinced him the torture programme had crossed into murder, a field station reporting that interrogators had killed a detainee during a session and asking headquarters what to do, and a Base-office cable answering *"Dig a hole and put him in the hole."* Kiriakou frames it as the moment the answer to *"nobody ever gave the CIA permission to torture people to death"* stopped being a hypothetical.
“Dig a hole and put him in the hole” is the classified CIA cable John Kiriakou has cited across years of interviews as the one that convinced him the American torture programme had crossed into murder. It sits, in his account, alongside the wider question no one at the agency ever answered, “how’s that legal? Nobody ever gave the CIA permission to torture people to death.”
The cable
Kiriakou describes seeing the exchange during the torture programme’s active phase. “I remember seeing a cable, it was the first time I’d seen a cable like this, where the so-called interrogators went too far, which we all predicted they would. And they murdered a prisoner during the interrogation and said, ‘What do we do?’ And then the base office wrote back and said, ‘Just dig a hole and put him in the hole.’”[1][2]
The framing
Kiriakou treats the cable as the end of any hypothetical defense of the programme. “Nobody ever gave the CIA permission to torture people to death. And we just dig a hole and pretend the guy never existed? But none of those people were ever prosecuted.”[2]
He pairs it with the sequence he uses to describe the shape of accountability at the CIA: the officer who exposed the programme went to prison; the officers who ran it “all got away.” Speaking to Ben Kaplan on To My Sons and Daughters, he named the ones who appear on video in the Spy Museum’s torture-programme exhibit, Jose Rodriguez, James Mitchell, and Bruce Jessen, as the ones who “all got away.”[3][4][1]
Sourced from John Kiriakou's on-record public statements. See his profile for the full body of his interviews, podcast appearances, and short-form video.
