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The ISI-Mossad relationship

John Kiriakou's characterisation of the relationship between Pakistani and Israeli intelligence — a formal relationship as recently as 1979 and none since, but no hostility either, because Pakistan is preoccupied with India and Afghanistan and Israel has never regarded Pakistan as a threat.

The ISI-Mossad relationship is John Kiriakou’s answer to a direct question about how Pakistani and Israeli intelligence stand toward one another, asked in the context of a rumoured Pakistani peacekeeping deployment to Gaza said to have been brokered between the two services.[1]

Formal until 1979, and nothing since

“There was a formal relationship as recently as 1979,” Kiriakou says, “but there is no formal relationship since then.”[1][2]

Absence of contact is not, in his account, the same as hostility. “They don’t have a lot to do with each other in day-to-day world events. But they’re not at each other’s throats.”[2]

Why neither service has time for the other

The explanation he gives is one of allocated attention rather than of policy. The ISI is occupied elsewhere: “The Pakistanis are worried about the Indians, and to a slightly lesser extent, they’re worried about the Afghans. They don’t have time to worry about the Israelis.”[2]

The reverse is a matter of threat assessment. “The Israelis have never seen Pakistan as a threat to Israel.” Pakistan’s public alignment with the Arab position is real but bounded: “they’ll offer vocal support for the Arabs, but that ends there with vocal support. That’s it.”[2][3]

See also

References

  1. DeProgram Show with Ted Rall and Jamarl Thomas, 2025-11-0113:31 on YouTube · Transcript
  2. DeProgram Show with Ted Rall and Jamarl Thomas, 2025-11-0114:01 on YouTube · Transcript
  3. DeProgram Show with Ted Rall and Jamarl Thomas, 2025-11-0114:32 on YouTube · Transcript

Sourced from John Kiriakou's on-record public statements. See his profile for the full body of his interviews, podcast appearances, and short-form video.