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The multi-state permit

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The warning John Kiriakou says he was given when he obtained his concealed carry permit: that the multi-state permit is not recognised in New York, New Jersey or Maryland, and that he should not carry a concealed weapon in any of them. He raised it while rejecting a friend's theory that gun rights would decide a New York governor's race.

The detail emerged from an argument John Kiriakou had been having with a friend about New York politics, and functions in his account as a fact that the friend’s theory could not accommodate.

The warning

“I remember when I got my concealed carry permit,” Kiriakou said, “they specifically warned me that the multi-state concealed carry permit is not recognised in New York, New Jersey or Maryland.”[1]

The instruction was correspondingly blunt: “So don’t carry a concealed weapon in New York, New Jersey or Maryland.”[1] Kiriakou’s response, as he reports it, was to accept the limit: “Okay, fine.”[1]

The point matters to the exchange because the friend’s claim had been that New Yorkers are so frustrated at being unable to carry that the issue would swing a governor’s race. Kiriakou treated the reciprocity rules as settled and unremarkable — a known condition of holding the permit, disclosed at the point of issue.

The question he cannot answer

Ted Rall then raised a puzzle Kiriakou readily conceded he had no answer to: why a jurisdiction should permit a handgun to be carried openly but not concealed, and what society gains either way.[1][2]

“Yeah, that’s a good question,” Kiriakou said. “I don’t know, to tell you the truth.”[2]

The videos

What he offered instead was an observation from social media, which he watches on the subject. “I do watch a lot of videos on TikTok — again last night — of guys wearing sidearms and then just standing in front of a police station with a gimbal recording, and the cops always lose their minds and come outside.”[2]

He reconstructed the standard confrontation: the man says he is practising his First Amendment freedoms and working on a story as an independent journalist; the officer objects that he is wearing a gun; the man replies that this is perfectly legal; and the encounter ends with the citizen telling the police “you’re dismissed. You can go.”[3]

Kiriakou reports the genre without endorsing it, and the conversation turned immediately to a viewer question about Russia. His own position on the underlying right is stated elsewhere in the same broadcast by his co-host and left unchallenged: that neither man is arguing New Yorkers should be barred from carrying, only that the question does not decide elections.

See also

References

  1. ↑ DeProgram Show with Ted Rall and Jamarl Thomas, 2025-11-10. 43:37 on YouTube · Transcript
  2. ↑ DeProgram Show with Ted Rall and Jamarl Thomas, 2025-11-10. 44:09 on YouTube · Transcript
  3. ↑ DeProgram Show with Ted Rall and Jamarl Thomas, 2025-11-10. 44:41 on YouTube · Transcript

Sourced from John Kiriakou's on-record public statements. See his profile for the full body of his interviews, podcast appearances, and short-form video.