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The visa reciprocity rule

The bilateral arrangement John Kiriakou describes by which each country sets the price of its own visas and the other matches it — and his conclusion that a United States policy of refusing visas to applicants who are overweight or who have cancer or diabetes must, under the same rule, license every other country to weigh American travellers at the door.

The visa reciprocity rule is the arrangement John Kiriakou set out in November 2025, in response to a State Department announcement that applicants for immigrant and tourist visas would be refused on grounds of obesity — and, he added, of cancer or diabetes.[1][2]

Bilateralism

Rall’s question was whether visas are bilateral. Kiriakou’s answer was immediate: “Oh, yeah, they’re bilateral.”[3]

The agreement, which he named, exists with virtually every country in the world: the visa reciprocity agreement. What it normally means is that each side is allowed to set the price of its own visa, and the other matches it — if the visa is free for Americans, then American visas are free for that country’s nationals.[3][4]

His worked examples were straightforward. The Indians charge Americans a hundred dollars, so the United States charges Indians a hundred. The Chileans charge a hundred, so the United States charges the Chileans a hundred.[4]

The Russian exception

The rule is not always acknowledged by the country applying it. Kiriakou recalled going to Russia once when the visa cost $400 — and being told by the Russians that this was not them: it was the Americans doing it to them, because the United States had been trying in the 1990s to keep Russian organised crime out of the country.[4] Rall’s observation that $400 was unlikely to deter a mobster went unanswered except by laughter.[5]

The consequence

The application to the new policy is the point of the discussion. If the Americans are going to make you get on a scale when you come to the embassy to apply for a visa, then any country can decide to make Americans get on a scale too. Kiriakou’s answer to that was two words: “Yes. Absolutely.”[5]

He also thought the effect on travel would be real. Asked whether such a policy would cripple tourism, he said the shift was already under way: Spain and France are coming right up to the United States in visitor numbers every year, and “we’re not going to be number one anymore.”[3] Rall noted the country already had a long-standing bar on visas for people with AIDS, so the class of medical exclusion was not itself new.[2]

See also

References

  1. DeProgram Show with Ted Rall and Jamarl Thomas, 2025-11-1338:37 on YouTube · Transcript
  2. DeProgram Show with Ted Rall and Jamarl Thomas, 2025-11-1339:08 on YouTube · Transcript
  3. DeProgram Show with Ted Rall and Jamarl Thomas, 2025-11-1339:39 on YouTube · Transcript
  4. DeProgram Show with Ted Rall and Jamarl Thomas, 2025-11-1340:11 on YouTube · Transcript
  5. DeProgram Show with Ted Rall and Jamarl Thomas, 2025-11-1340:42 on YouTube · Transcript

Sourced from John Kiriakou's on-record public statements. See his profile for the full body of his interviews, podcast appearances, and short-form video.